lyric plover
Having trouble clearing HoH/general later game content and i was wondering if it was due to not having monsters skilled up at all.
The guides say to save all the skill ups for PvP monsters but is this a hard rule/recommendation? Is it possible to do all PvE content without skilling up monsters?
sacred hazel
Following ?devilmon yes
HoH is considered kinda 'hard' content and needs good runes. Skillups don't really matter here. it's fine to just get a few monster pieces and stop pushing if you can't get past it unless you can barely. You can try using reps like verad or other monsters that have cc
lyric plover
im having trouble coming up with adequate damage. is this again a rune issue? or a monster issue? i dont think i have many monsters that hit good AoE. do you have any recommendations?
i have the nat 4 event to pick a monster as well as nat 5. but im assuming those are saved for PvP units?
sacred hazel
rune issue, but it's not a big deal to not be able to clear hoh 100%. the first two b's give you enough pieces for a monster which is fine. just focus on progressing and following #guides
yes, pvp units. nat4 event can be used for galleon but again should not be used till you get to that point
near valley
is it fine if I fuse some 4 stars to skill up someone like Astar? and use devilmons, 30 skillup from 11th aniversary for other dark light taken from HoH events?
sacred hazel
u should not feed devils or take hohs for a monster that has fuseable skillups. i wouldn't consider it a very important priority for astar but u can fuse skillups for her
also please open your own thread
lyric plover
Is there a resource like swfarm that tells you what stats a monster uses? Could be super helpful with sorting through runes
robust edge
Is there a resource like swfarm that tells you what stats a monster uses? Could ...
No, that just comes through experience.
lyric plover
if im failing to do sr5 with this team, can i safely assume im just not hitting the ehp thresholds or is there something off with my teams?
misty duneBOT
When sharing monster stats, take a screenshot from the monster storage building rather than the monster menu. This lets you show stats, rune sets, and skillups all in 1 image.
https://imgur.com/bmhiJGs
sacred hazel
how consistent is your sr5?
lyric plover
not consistent at all
probs like a 30% pass rate
ill go thru and also maybe see if i need to skill up some ppl
fair remnant
show yr cleansers
weak phoenix
Stop looking for shortcuts
Level every mon you are using
And build them correctly
lyric plover
what shortcuts are you referring to?
im not intentionally leaving monsters not maxed out in level if thats what you're referring to
weak phoenix
Whatever you are trying to do instead of leveling your units, skilling them up, and following the stat minimums in the guide
lyric plover
im attempting to do just that - the runs are failing so i was wondering how off the stats/team comps are
weak phoenix
Team comps are fine
Using cleansers without their cleanse skilled up is not
If it is failing and your shit isn’t max level, that’s a good place to start
Cleansers need vio or 100 res
This is all covered in the guide
weak phoenix
And if these are your cleaners, I’m assuming your DDs aren’t good either
lyric plover
i even noted that i might need to skill up monsters
lyric plover
Cleansers need vio or 100 res
ty for the heads up here - i swapped runes around and didnt realize i messed up the stats on a few of the monsters. this is helpful advice
weak phoenix
Word of wisdom, if something is failing, first place to look is back to the guide for that comp to see if it answers what’s wrong
lyric plover
👍 ty
weak phoenix
Putting in that effort will often address your issue
And if it doesn’t, it shows people who want to help you that you are trying and using the available resources
lyric plover
yeah im definitely aware of the guide and im going through it. my last like 15 posts in the bot channel is just purely sr5 lmao
just getting a bit swamped with managing the swapping of runes and monsters
when i doubt just read the guide though. fair point
fair remnant
if im failing to do sr5 with this team, can i safely assume im just not hitting ...
team 1: frontline fedora (L) bella, backline shannon wind homie lingling ardella
team 2: frontline fran bella, backline loren (L) kona wind drunken XL
team 3 vero (L) lulu, backline colleen dogs nangrim
with wind homie > lingling being yr 2 weakest dd's
lyric plover
team 1: frontline fedora (L) bella, backline shannon wind homie lingling ardella...
appreciate you!!! ty
lyric plover
im trying to figure out which stats are more preferable for survival. am i correct to assume that def is weighted a bit more heavily than hp? are there soft caps for both stats? or can i do something like insane amounts of hp and little def and come out with the same survivability?
sacred hazel
if there's content where you can be def broken, hp is a lot more preferable. sr5 doesnt has def break so both are fine to use and doesnt make a significant difference prioritizing one or another
i will say though your kfg has too much speed, she only needs around 30-40 speed
lyric plover
if there's content where you can be def broken, hp is a lot more preferable. sr5...
Ahh cool!! Thanks for the insight!
lyric plover
i will say though your kfg has too much speed, she only needs around 30-40 speed
Oh really? Why is that? The sr5 guide recommends 160ish speed on DD
And also, are the other non LD KFGs usable? Or is it safe to use dupes to skill up
fair remnant
160 cmb spd is only roughtly +45 spd from runes
u have 26 more on XL
lingling should have the skill ups before XL, and light wants them for siege
sacred hazel
I did fuse kfgs to skill her up bc I use her in multiple content and don't regret it. But she doesnt need them so its not an immediate priority
Iirc sr5 req is just 140-150 cmb speed
lyric plover
does light panda warriors passive apply to to ragdoll's passive effect - tooth for a tooth?
does a passive triggering count as attack bar increasing skill?
sacred hazel
It should yes
lyric plover
are there ever 50% off rune upgrade events?
lyric plover
im comparing my nangrim to the one in the album and my atk is severely lacking. i have a few questions
keen veldt
atk% is always better than flat attack, regardless of the base atk of a monster
the optimal atk and crit damage a monster should have would be 1% atk to 1% CD
but there's no reason to calculate it so strictly
level nangrim to 40, its free stats
and are all your runes +15? if yes, your rune 4 should be cd%
lyric plover
ah i forgot the 1%atk to 1%cd
keen veldt
nangrim also needs 15% acc, he applies brand + has a chance to ignore defense
keen veldt
he doesnt need to be so fast
lyric plover
and yeah slot 4 is CD for me
keen veldt
150-160 cmb spd is sufficient
lyric plover
ah right that too
keen veldt
your nangrim has 52% resistance, thats a lot of wasted stats
deft dove
you're doing something very wrong when it comes to just the basics of what runes you're keeping or runing or using
if all your monsters look like that
maybe start with showing some runes from a giants 30x that you're choosing to roll or throw away
lyric plover
i was mainly going for survivability at the start
so i was looking to just hit big HP lines
deft dove
are you done with the event?
deft dove
like are you on the unlimited portion of the shop
lyric plover
oh ummm
i think i cleared out until shop 2
im pretty hesitant with buying out stuff
deft dove
wait have you been playing since beginning of event
lyric plover
yes
deft dove
ok so first of all
lyric plover
i have currency for sure
deft dove
you just don't play this game enough
lyric plover
hahaha probably
i take it kind of casually
i do try and get in some time when i can
deft dove
i mean you've clearly tried to read through the guides and play this game correctly
but it almost feels like
with the limited time you have
you've spent way too much of it reading and thinking and asking for help
than just simply farming and playing the game
lyric plover
what you're saying is definitely true
deft dove
you're struggling because you just haven't farmed
lyric plover
i did farm, but i didnt go through runes yet which may explain the mess of runes i have currently
deft dove
that's part of farming
lyric plover
my rune inventory is around maxed out
deft dove
start going through that first
you should never have any unrolled runes in your inventory
deft dove
i mean that's like working a job
and then when you get a paycheck
you don't cash it
and then you ask
how can i afford anything? i dont have any money
lyric plover
hahaha yeah fair
and what you said about playing the game would solve a lot of my issues. a big issue i have is that i keep runes i rolled on bc im not sure if theres some monster out there that uses the rune and so things keep piling up that way 😂
the album of monsters and stats is really helpful tho in regard to learning
with the album im able to avoid asking a lot of stupid questions
deft dove
too bad swarfarm died
lyric plover
and just comaring stats etc
deft dove
you could have seen individual runes too
lyric plover
yeahhh that would help a ton
but the album is still solid as a place to reference
in regard to looking at specific runes, i mainly go on youtube or something
deft dove
i can grab a few though hold on
lyric plover
one thing that really solidified in my mind after looking through the album was the idea that rune sets are just stats at the end of the day. seeing some monsters with like fatal/blade with insane HP really hammered home that there isnt one 'correct' way to rune a monster. and that you just need to hit the stat requirements. that was a really cool moment
lyric plover
oooo tyty!!!!
deft dove
lyric plover
bless you tysm jx9
following the guide i also started dumping energy into sr4/sr5 and getting those grinds
its super fun spending those items
what monster are these runes on @deft dove ? nangrim? or is it just an assortment of runes. im looking at the def lines and im assuming its for added ehp
deft dove
nangrim
lyric plover
ahhh awesome
yeah its so cool that all stats are important
this is a really good benchmark for future learning
tysm
appreciate the effort
lyric plover
what monsters use accuracy slot 6?
fair remnant
?tianagalleon, fast debuffers who want 85% acc
lyric plover
is there a guide somewhere recommending which engraved summon banner to select?
deft dove
?sstones
misty duneBOT
Top 3
Other important PvE monsters
Versatile siege monsters - Siege is the easiest PvP area to get into and also the most rewarding
If you have everything on this list and are looking for additional elemental nat 4 options, see ?sstones2
lyric plover
ah tysm
lyric plover
for this event - we can choose up to 5 rune sets to redeem. im assuming the below:
let me know if there are more recommended rune sets!
balmy inlet
violent will despair swift pretty much the best option for the first four. then the fifth one is really up to you. some do rage, some do fight.
lyric plover
violent will despair swift pretty much the best option for the first four. then ...
thanks so much for the insight
lyric plover
this is such a great piece of info for players getting into pvp but to narrow it down even more, is there a recommended top 3 for a player who hasnt touched pvp at all? like is there a super super core/important monster to get here?
sacred hazel
post ur box
heavy nebula
this is such a great piece of info for players getting into pvp but to narrow it...
the most important part is: what content do you plan on playing
lyric plover
i got this from the create your rune event
are these base stats good enough to go onto the next step? or do you guys recommend to get higher
lyric plover
gotcha tysm
lyric plover
are these worth buying?
