rwang6905’s rta thread

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Just about to start getting back into rta- I’ve had some rune progression since last reruning and looking for some guidance- first on what to rune, cuz I think a full rerune is in order before my first 10-20 rta games where I start to find out what I struggle against? Obligatory box post- I used to try both Oliver sekh +3 and just random snipe/cleave stuff, but it nothing ever really stuck for me. Pick Ethna when contesting, shun, ritsu, salah into t2 and Praha if no sagar, psam into cleaves, some hae + vela and some Camilla into heavy fire. Into Sonia I experimented a little with Sonia proof triana + Leo but never worked consistently for me. Just looking for some general direction so I can start sending games in a better direction before honing in on specifics

Notable missing stuff is jeongnam, sagar, Chandra, Juno, fmk, twins?

Goal is probably touching g1, finishing p3? I think it’s a bit of a reach, but I’ve been told it’s possible

Any advice is appreciated

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Your LD5s are a bit more geared towards turn 2. Probably want to lean into an Oliver or Vanessa first pick core?

Oliver you'd probably be looking at Miles Racuni stuff, Vanessa works with nearly everything

Could try Vanessa Adrianna cos that's a pretty flexible start

Works well with both stuff like Ethna but also slower stuff like Shun if they go turn 2

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Oh, those are 2 options- I’ve tried Vanessa Adriana into snipes but I’ve never considered Ethna/shun pivots- I know people run Vanessa eshir Ethna usually

But Adriana moving in front of Ethna seems somewhat hard, and my topset is pretty lackluster tho I have okay swift depth. I think topset is +217 or so

On 100 base

I’m honestly not too sure how oli miles rat works- I assume it’s just miles rat miles and nuke the scary fire thing? And control the other 3 with oli?

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I always thought shun & ritsu were a bit more anti turn 2 than turn 2

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They're both anti turn 2, but I reckon Shun works better in a bruiser type draft

Cos you just keep him alive and he kills everything in 2-3 turns

Ritsu yeah more speed focused draft

Cos it's control

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I’m down to try both- which one should I rune first?
Assuming Adriana Vanessa- I assume Ethna is in front of Adriana, and all 3 are swift?

Or is it like, despair Ethna or something

So turn order Adriana -> Vanessa Ethna

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Don't think Vanessa really goes before Ethna ever

She goes before most stuff but not Ethna cos you give up too much speed advantage with her base speed

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But Adriana goes in front of swift Ethna?

I guess in this case the Ethna is more focused on efficiency

[red girder]

I think it's fine either way

You kind of want the Adrianna to go before stuff like Sonia if you use it though

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Hmm

Okay

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Ethna would benefit from S3 on a def break

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And why Adriana over eshir?

Afaik eshir is the more classical pick, but Adriana atk buff I guess does much better into slower bruisers?

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Attack buff is a bit easier to flex

Like I said you don't need to go super fast units after it

Could be something slower but hits hard

It depends on what you fight

You're basically trading Eshir healing and boost for attack and immunity

and with a Vanessa draft if you have immunity it's gonna be hard for them to kill anything fast in theory

Basically Vanessa draft you're trying to abuse the 33 lead + def break strip + revive

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Mind if I rune some units up for u to comment on? Currently thinking Vanessa Adriana Ethna rigna Sonia… maybe velajuel for a second immunity? I’d imagine bruisers like tesa, ritsu, shun?

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Ritsu I'm on the fence about for now

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Makes sense

Outspeed, do some impact, and try to live with revive

Do you ever pivot to turn 2 with Vanessa fp?

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My current drafting style is Vanessa FP but slow lol

Just so I can keep my bruisers alive after turn 1 into snipe type drafts

Mainly Seara Giana so they can't blow up my fire monkey tbh

Gimme a sec

I won all these

I mean my Vanessa is built for turn 2 anyway but you can absolutely use her with this stuff in general

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I feel like Vanessa doesn’t really want the best runes tho

Even if ur fping her

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Really just need her to move before certain things

Some people go high res builds (me) or some go for just acc and tankiness

Really just need her tuned and somewhat tanky

Doesn't need CR/CD/Atk unless you're going some super niche build

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Probably too low hp

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If possible give up some attack

and get more hp

But otherwise looks fine

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Oh she had a +100 atk arti LOL

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Right side really only care about S2 acc and maybe -crit damage if you can

Left side -fire or -water

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My Artis are

Somewhat lacking

But this puts her at 100 acc and -15 water

Can roll for a -fire roll and have -dark too

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Ethna looks fine

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Note she’s energy

Dunno if that’s acceptable or not

[red girder]

I think it's okay probably

Plenty of people are off will

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What do u think abt Irene jade?

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Uh

Usable I think

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So I tried trimming the box a little- these good to rune up?

Kept some t2 pivots, some counterpicks, some stuff that works with vanessa Adriana like Barbara seara, some t1.5 like seara Zima- I’d imagine drop grogen eludia?

Unsure about woosa hae vela as well

And feng

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I personally prefer Woosa with Vanessa but I also don't use Vela ever

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I feel like woosa and Adriana have a bit too much overlap tho?

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Yeah possibly

Dunno about the fire puppeteer

I mean Eludia Grogen maybe could work with Adrianna

But again it's kind of a turn 2 counter thing

You have a lot of stuff to counter turn 2 already

The dark hacker is good if you're getting outsped

You don't have Juno or MHW unfortunately cos they'd be good pivots if you think you'll lose speed contest

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Hmm

What u said about eludia grogen makes sense- I’ll drop em

They eat way too many runes for how niche they are

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You're going Adrianna and you have snipe/shun stuff which is already good into turn 2

I don't think you'll have much issue with too many turn 2 drafts

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Okay- who gets the good vio stuff?

I guess between seara, Oliver, xz(?) Angela, ritsu, tesa, cami?

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Xing isn't too hard to rune

Seara can be hungry

I'd say Oliver Seara gonna be your secondary speed leads

So probably those 2

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Seara is just bomb damage these days right? I’ll try to rune them up then

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Seara varies

Bomb damage is most popular

I think classic build can still be viable

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I have a strong cr slot 4- I imagine it’s better on seara than oli

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Both work

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I feel like that's more of a Seara rune

I do think if you go CR slot 4 though you'd probably be looking at less of a bomb damage build though

As in you'd want more additionals on artis

It does work well with Adrianna though cos your S1 should be hitting crazy hard

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Be warned- after this the quality drops off realll fast LOL

But this set is pretty crazy I think?

[red girder]

That looks fine

Oliver should be a bit easier

You can kinda just get away with hp/def/spd/acc on him

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Fine is rough 😂😂 that set is most of my best stuff

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Oliver is good

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Sonia is a bit of a frustrating one for me

I hate how bad she is

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I mean damage wise that isn't bad

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Yeah she’s just too slow

We’ll say “tuned to Adriana” lol

Alr well I’ll try it out tomorrow- rq I runed Barbara and ciri as well, I assumed Barbara was useful for stripping for seara/oliver too

Just have to rune turn 2 stuff now?

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Well did one before bed for fun- was a really good time

Ld warlord but idk what id have done if he picked another lead

Ban Lora I guess

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Yeah that guy is an LD abuser lol

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But yeah this draft is a decent example of where Vanessa can be good

Cos that Han can't really snipe you as easy

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His fmk really slammed my nessa, but that’s bc he couldn’t hit anything else

Ethna stunned the Han

And ritsu got decent cc on fmk

Not sure if the picks were correct

But seemed fine

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So fire kass

Was not the pick

But I’m not sure what was

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I want to blame this on procs + acc res, but I also feel like Oliver was just bad here

Seara was probably better

Especially after the kinki

But vela miles kass doesn’t look like a real draft so I’m probably missing something

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Your draft doesn't do amazing into double immunity

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Yep figured that out

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This went a lot worse than I thought it would

Turns out kovarci is quite the unit

Still won but needed a sack

Well not even a sack but just traded seara for Sonia and then pretty much both teams sat there until dougie killed kovarci- kovarci was a lot better into dougie than I thought?

I feel like I need some sorta fire bruiser

Was talking with halo, without fmk and masha is it worth building rakan/karnal?

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Hmm

I don't really use Rakan

I use Karnal but he can be built several ways

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I got completely out drafted here but idk what would’ve worked

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This one I feel like I outsped and should’ve won, and then somehow got cleaved? Idk, Adriana s3 eshir s2 oli stuff, and then ciri just killed me somehow

I didn’t eshir s3 Vanessa cuz I didn’t want chiwu s3 on my stuff

So I couldn’t bomb her

Maybe I shouldn’t have tried to races

?

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I just don’t get it

I keep losing

After outspeeding, even if no will

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This kind of thing is really hard to beat with a speed draft. You need sustain and bruiser units that don't get cc'd (eg fire monkey, Juno)

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You may outspeed but Oliver probably can't reset stuff that fast and depending on what has will. You'd have to deal with Chiwu Ethna or the Wind girl who's name I forget moving

Similar issue with the last draft

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And if u have neither? Wind monkey Angela?

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Would be better than nothing into that

Lucia hard counters Oliver and Jeongnam but dunno if you have one

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I do actually

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Can just chuck a triple revenge set on her, doesn't need to be super fast

Just kills a lot of the turn cycling which can make a difference

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She halves their atb reduction right? But doesn’t do too much to their atk bar gain?

Actually for those two they absorb iirc, so it would halve theirs

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So Oliver steals atb so it halves his pushback and gain

Ye

So pushback and steal it's really good against

Cos those drafts are more low damage

and she won't get stunned either

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Jeongnam (Water Dokkaebi Lord)

Wikia

3. Giant's Bat

Recovers HP of all allies by 20% and attacks all enemies to inflict damage that increases according to your MAX HP and stun for 1 turn. In addition, absorbs the Attack Bar by 40% if your MAX HP is higher than the target. (Reusable in 5 turns)

Levels

Damage +20%
Cooltime Turn -1

Multiplier

2.4*{ATK} + 0.2*{MAX HP}

Pos. Effects

Absorb ATB (40%)
Heal

Neg. Effects

Stun (1 round(s))

provided by SWARFARM

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Ah jeong too

Makes sense- I’ll rune her up

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Oliver Jeong seems pretty popular atm so you can probably get some use out of it

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This is exactly what I was hoping for making this thread btw- thanks!

Learning where I went wrong in draft and hopefully improving from there

Seems like when they go race, I overcommit to outracing when I don’t have a great strip option to support it? So for a lot of these there might be better bruiser pivots

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Yeah if you had Juno and Fire monkey that Ethna draft woulda been free for you

Cos if they commit to the speed contest with that stuff they can't kill them

Honestly you don't need both but just 1 would be helpful

The last one as well

Like if someone went Woonsa that early I'd probably assume I'd be losing the speed battle and look at bruiser options

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Makes sense- let woonsa stay and just sit there with an Angela or something

And outsustaon?

[red girder]

Depends how you play it but that is a low damage draft in general, it just has a lot of cc

Also gotta remember if you decide to pivot early sometimes the last pick or 2 from enemy will be diff

But it's better than committing to turn 1 at that point imo

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Thanks @red girder for the fire pudding counterpick

Worked great- I know he completely threw his last pick and ban tho

[red girder]

👍

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I think something might’ve been better than the wind one

But I couldn’t think of something

I wanted to pick hg but wasn’t runed

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Yeah triple cookie is kinda weird there lol

Juno or MHW is insta win

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Is this a spot where Irene makes sense?

Just a buncha annoying passives

But Adriana and tesa ended up working out pretty well

And seara didn’t miss a bomb

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Not sure if fire pvc was right here

Worked fine but she got a lotta revenges off so he couldn’t burst oli

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Irene generally okay into Angela cos then you can snipe stuff or whatever while it's trapped

Second game maybe a fire bruiser would be slightly safer

Just cos I feel like there's a bit of damage there so if they'd managed to snipe Oliver you'd be in trouble

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Do you think karnal is worth the devils?

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I mean if you use him. He's not really that popular at the moment.

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I don’t know how the fuck I lost this but I did

I one shot masha t1

And proceeded to not kill a single unit after that

It was a damage haegang

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I’m just losing on repeat now

I don’t fucking know anymore

I feel like I’m not getting any bettter and I’m losing to complete dogshit

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Tesa ban there is weird

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I have 2 units that don’t do anything without passive and no immunity cuz Adriana ban no?

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Cos If Adrianna gets through you have immunity and if Ritsu gets through you can control him

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And doesn’t his draft suck

I guess? I guess I should take into account he has no lead

So ritsu will always race

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Also Seara pick there is a bit odd but yeah

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I don’t know what else I should’ve picked

A sniper?

I don’t think a sniper would have enough damage

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What water units you got

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Barbara

Ciri

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Hmm mostly fast stuff

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Camilla Irene(unruned unskilled)

Woosa

Hae psam moore Josephine

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I kinda don't mind Camilla there

But I mean end of the day

I think ban the Federica probably

Miles would also be acceptable maybe

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What’s the diff between tesa & miles

These motherfuckers

By the way

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Miles has strip stun and more consistent damage

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How the fuck did this lose

How the fuck did this lose too

I could’ve sworn this draft was perfect for fire pudding

Like a guaranteed win

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Hard to tell without watching but I'm guessing Seara got controlled and didn't get to do enough

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Basically

[prime hill]

honestly I would stop picking seara when u pick Vanessa and water pudding princess. Pick a good wind bruiser and u wouldve won. You need strip for her to be effective and u dont seem to need an aoe strip when u pick a bruiser.

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Yeah I'm not liking the Seara much

If you build your draft around her it's fine

But this feels weird

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How would I build my draft around her?

Or do I just drop her in favor of someone else?

She’s on my best runeset right now

[red girder]

Usually it's like Seara Zibala stuff at least where I am

Though they usually have Giana or YH or something

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I don’t have zibala unfortunately

Or either of those two

[prime hill]

Drop her and pick elemental bruiser for your current playstyle

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I doubt Zima makes it any better

My Ethna moves in front of my Adriana lol

Also, I don’t have elemental bruisers

[prime hill]

For Seara Zibala etc to work u need really good and really fast runes. for the bruiser playstyle u need less speed and better rune efficiency which is easier to meet

xingzhe, and Unfair bear already is enough for wind. Camilla and maybe if u own chow and then idk Theomars and someone else and ur gucci

Tesarion*

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Those with Adriana seem weak

ESP fy

[prime hill]

ah wait u pick adrianna every game?

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Pretty much, though I probably shouldn’t

It’s only +211

[prime hill]

well mine is also at +211 and im sitting at g2 right now

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💀 then I’m just bad

Sadge

Not sure if I should completely switch the draft

[prime hill]

honestly your drafting is fine. I would just not draft seara and remember to always have two damage dealer.

maybe change adrianna to haegang and u can keep seara

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How good is post nerf sagar

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People still use him but I’ve found him much easier to deal with now that he can’t proc into s3 after 1 or 2 turns

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Do you think it’s worth trying out oli sekh miles/praha?

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I do like the Praha

I do think it would be better than your current draft

Dunno if you have Jeongnam cos he's fairly decent with that stuff as well

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Nah I don’t

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Praha still fine

Maybe a Racuni too

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Praha on 100 res?

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Why the rat?

[red girder]

Don't think I've seen a 100 res Praha in forever lol

[red girder]

Decent synergy with Oliver Miles and better in some situations

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Hm, okay I’ll try building them then

When is Praha good vs miles?

[red girder]

Like if you're fighting someone like me I can just kinda focus 1 unit down but it's hard to do that into Racuni cos of double cleanse

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I assume miles is good into slow stuff

Like you

[red girder]

Better into stuff like Akroma and whatnot

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But where would Praha be good? Now that sagar isn’t quite so common

Oh, Praha better into akroma?

[red girder]

oh I meant Miles into Akroma

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Ah ye makes sense

[red girder]

Praha is good if you need AOE strip, also good if you have a Vela

Cos Vela immunity stops you sleeping yourself

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Oh that’s cute lol

[red girder]

I reckon Miles Racuni is better into single targ threat drafts while Praha Vela is better for stuff that's a bit more AOE. There's probably situations where things vary but in general I'd say that's right

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Is miles 100 res?

And additionals? Or acc or somethin else

[red girder]

Some people run 100 res

I run mine on max acc

artis I have spd/def on lost hp but you could also do damage reduction

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Thoughts on builds?

[red girder]

Looks fine to me for now

Only thing I could possibly think of is that Vela is going last

Usually want him to cleanse stuff but see how it goes

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Ah, fair enough

Oli ate the high quality runes basically

Welp I’m up 50 points with this draft, won 4 or 5 in a row

Funny little Diana pick

She’s not skilled up

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👍

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How do you beat wind zenitsu? I feel like no matter what I do I can’t do anything to him

He just soloes me over and over even with oli sekh

[red girder]

Maybe oblivion or some sort of fire bruiser

He's kinda bad into me and the only time he beats me is usually insane RNG so I can't really give good feedback

I suppose reset into nuke also works

Since his passive has a cooldown

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Sending sekh s3 Sonia s2 sounds terrible

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Okay when I say nuke like

I mean just blow him up

People build him squishy as fuck he dies in like 2 hits to anything

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What to pick into oli fp? Just getting back into rta, still fping oli but if someone does it to me I’m kinda lost

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what is your core

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oli +4

oli, vela sekh ethna irene juno, rat miles

counterpicks being hae leo tesa ritsu shun fire kass psam sonia n1x

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would always pick sekh then

maybe sekh miles

and then go from there

I go seara sekh into this but seara is just core

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idk how much i like sekh into oli

i can rune up a seara pretty easily i think?

i should have a bunch of leftover stuff that i haven't used yet

@upbeat arrow do people still run bomb damage?

this is pretty shit i guess

seara sekh jurgen?

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weird draft

not sure if i should've just banned doug

irene ended up killing him

with atk break reflect

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jurgen debut did not go well

i thought this was a good spot for him, but he didn't really do much. i went for the wind cookie with irene while trying to control the miles

but the fire monkey just one shot oli

not actually one shot but he def broke proc and oli dead thru -15 fire

maybe this -22 fire arti is worth using

but i don't know where i really went wrong here- i had enough strips so i thought i could control vela and had irene to eat the annoying passive units

maybe i should've picked miles on 2nd rotation

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yikes yes this is

a leftover leftover set

get more hp, less atk

max acc

bomb dmg artis

idk bour yr drafts, not smart enough for that

ask vinny or ent

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why does this look like my Seara that I don't draft smh, do better

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@haughty forge

there u go

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I got fucking cooked

No def break needed

No clue why

Just one shot shun one shot tesa before I killed anything

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well

he has 4 monsters that deal insane damage

and you barely have any sustain

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Nah simi they one shot my shit, it wasnt really about the sustain here

I went for masha first and didn’t even get her to half before my shun & tesa were dead

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runegapped

I guess you need to take t1 here

and disable whateer theyre trying to do

juno so early feels weird imo

she probably did nothing but standing there menacingly

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She missed 3 strips iirc

She felt good into that fire megumi zeratu opener

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ended up losing the miles oli 2v2 vs tomoe brita, was shi hou the move here

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idk why i picked leo ethna 4/5 here

but idk what to pick

[haughty forge]

I think you just miss banned

If you had gone

And

Banned the verde

Open goes

Leo s1 pushback miles/otherwise prevent him from being annoying -> strip vela -> reset vela

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match went leo s1 miles -> ethna s3 -> monkey s3 -> nothin happened -> oli s3 vela -> i just got wiped

i'm wondering if taking shi hou ethna with leo is bad, but maybe verde was the problem and twinks lose a lot of value with leo on field?

cuz u lose all the add dmg

the verde last pick told me he was keeping leo in so i wasn't worried about miles lora

i guess i just should've considered that it reduces twink spd lead value as well?

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This was probably a Leo angle and I missed it, bc I was thinking “I want to ban miles and pick a water unit”

And just hae his lora

I am 0/5 into this Lora unit

Tried to stun his Lora, missed, died instantly

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Haes not my favorite answer into lora, mostly because she wont provide haegang with the full 40% atk bar, she only gives 20% atk bar for the strip

[haughty forge]

Also lora vio

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I did get Lora s3 -> s2 but didn’t matter cuz monkey moved after, so no point in bitching about it

I can’t outspeed the swift ones, if I do I don’t stun/reset it, and if it moves I lose on the spot, but if I ban it I let some last pick counterpick thru

Maybe I should’ve banned it that last fight. I thought I could ban his only damage source and be okay, since he was leaving Leo in with the verde lp

I didn’t want twin -> han to one shot something

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Welp first ritsu game did not go well

I would’ve thought 2 speed scalers would be fine into this, but I failed to see that no lead monkey is outsped by their whole team

I can’t believe I’m losing these tbh

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I still have no clue why I felt so draft gapped

I literally would’ve lost without some crazy proccing, and still I won by one proc

I feel like this is exodia vs turn 2 no immunity

They don’t even have a stripper, and I had will runes

And nothing happened, I just got dumpstered the whole game until both shadowcasters procced multiple times and did nothing

Their monkey actually didn’t land a defense break for the whole game either

With like, 4-5 attempts over the course of the game

My miles is 100 res but like, I seriously have no clue how my draft felt this bad

Idk I just keep losing

[haughty forge]

You’re doing the equivalent of picking 3 snipers in siege offense

You need to spread out and have support for what ur doing

[haughty forge]

Ur 3/4 is wrong

Shun should be a different unit

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I have somehow meandered back to c1

I am losing my mind

Was trying jade to support the ritsu

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sometimes you try new things and they dont work

it is what it is

if it doesnt work, change it

if it does, keep it

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Those aren’t the only matches I lost, but they are the ones that landed me here

[haughty forge]

Jade/ritsu aren’t main picks

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Example match @unborn wedge

i know i won but i won through a few lucky procs- just picked monkey ethna cuz i thought itd be good to speed contest the viva with a 33 lead

after the pivot i thought hey lets go vela ritsu into the slow wind stuff

ban immunity cuz lack of strip

and pray

turns out i should've lost, diana shahat rips apart this team

viva never moved

and if he let ethna thru and banned something else it would've been even worse for me

well, idk about that

but it just felt pretty bad even though i thought i had a great draft

and this happens every game

and that's how i ended up back in c1

[flint vector]

Personally, I wouldnt hard race as soon as viva is picked. Because that isnt necessarily a swift viva

[sullen tinsel]

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[flint vector]

That could be a vio viva ready to play Leo Rag stuff, or a vio viva ready to just play hard turn 2

[sullen tinsel]

i mean with spd lead i feel like it is

idk what vio viva really wants to do, always assumed the unit is way better swift

[flint vector]

Chandra Viva reads to me like mid range still

[sullen tinsel]

but yes it was vio viva

isn't spd lead viva always a race

thats what i would've thought

[flint vector]

Depends on the speed lead

Like Chandra here

That's still mid rangey

They can still pivot both slow or fast off of it

[sullen tinsel]

i don't understand the point at all

like isn't her s3 just a t1 tool

[flint vector]

She has sustain, she has cleanse, the s3 is still a boost

And she can basically (Not quite but close enough) snipe a unit later in the game

[sullen tinsel]

a glorified triana doesn't really interest me that much as a real pick though i feel

[flint vector]

I mean, it's a triana with a snipe

Like the S3 still switches atk bar and hp bar

That is a dead unit when timed correctly

Like if you do try to pivot turn 2 into her, she can just kill a thing

Or if you try to outspeed her, she still has high base speed so she can still potentially win

[sullen tinsel]

i'm just surprised my thought process was so against what actually happened though

[unborn wedge]

I kinda agree with genie, monke is fine here tho but ethna is not only already mid this season but also makes you heavy wind already with oli

Also even tho I feel like dark hand is busted, I feel like punishing the 3/4 wind picks with double fire last picks would've been stronger

Considering your 2/3 stays the same, you could've recovered that well with vela ashour

More heals, more burst dmg overall

[flint vector]

I think Monkey's a fine pick there, but I think a Fire threat needs to go in the 3. I'd probably go with Oke for example

[unborn wedge]

Yea exactly

Like even if you really wanted to race here, just pick sek instead of ethner

[sullen tinsel]

fire monkey? i just got him

[flint vector]

Water Monkey

[sullen tinsel]

no i'm saying instead of ashou

[flint vector]

Oh you mean for fire threat

I definitely wouldn't draft him in the 3, I feel like you give up too much speed on that

[sullen tinsel]

i can derune her and put the swift set elsewhere? i'm not particularly fast but i can make 3 +215 sets basically

[flint vector]

And do a weird split between racing and hard turn 2

Which I try not to do personally, I feel like the split just makes it a bit awkward

[sullen tinsel]

jeogun is my only other fire unit

that is in meta i guess

or juno but juno wouldn't have ever been picked into that 1/2

sekh i guess was fine

[flint vector]

Are we talking in the 3 slot or the 4/5 slot?

[sullen tinsel]

3

[flint vector]

Oke, Vela, Ashour, Tetsuya, Karuel all probably do fine there

[sullen tinsel]

dont have, picked, dont have, dont have, dont have

[flint vector]

You didn't pick Vela yet in the 3

[sullen tinsel]

ye

i guess his draft would've changed

if i picked him on the 2/3

[unborn wedge]

Holy

[sullen tinsel]

which would've opened up other options

[flint vector]

So like I think just doing Oli Shi Hou Vela probably doesn't send him so hard into turn 2

[sullen tinsel]

i guess i have to pick vela reasonably early so i don't get shit on by wind units without good fire threats in my roster

idk how acceptable that reasoning is

sounds like terrible reasoning

[flint vector]

I don't mind it, if you look at my drafts I generally try to finish the elemental trifecta in the first 3 picks if possible

[sullen tinsel]

Back to c1

Probably should’ve picked ritsu here

But I was worried about lack of strip after jeo ban so I just picked random speed lead with decent element

Idk

Both Ethna and monkey outsped woly and I still should’ve lost and got a bunch of lucky resists and stuff to win

And rune gapped. Talisman didn’t kill Ethna with s2

[sullen tinsel]

Should’ve last picked psam I guess

[sullen tinsel]

more losses

still c1

[sullen tinsel]

c1 loss porn lol

[sudden finch]

??

[sudden finch]

how did you lose that?

[sudden finch]

same here tbh idk how you lose that

[sullen tinsel]

Might be my builds I fuess

[haughty forge]

Did you get resisted a lot??

How did you lose this

[sullen tinsel]

Idk anymore. I’m losing to everything

[sullen tinsel]

I ask myself this every single fight

I’m literally stuck in c1

I keep on poking into c2 and then getting shot back to c1

It honestly makes me want to throw my phone

Like I don’t understand how it’s possible for me to not just not get better

But get 200 points worse than where I was a month ago

Drop 200 points in a week and get stuck there

Idk it’s just really demoralizing to lose to random bullshit and having no clue why

[sullen tinsel]

I would’ve thought Irene jeogun oli would be fantastic into do nothing stuff

But I have a 30% wr with these units

Against full t2

so I think I’m mistaken

[haughty forge]

You need more damage - if they ban ritsu youre out of tempo

[sullen tinsel]

@pseudo thicket

[pseudo thicket]

Oh lmao hi i didnt recognise it was you with the name change HAHAH

[sullen tinsel]

Ye I got pissed about my rank 2 finish

[pseudo thicket]

Rip

[sullen tinsel]

So it’ll be this until I legend or quit

[pseudo thicket]

Do you have an image of ur whole box without me scrolling to the top haha

[sullen tinsel]

I made it back to c2 with like a 15 game win streak somehow

box

[pseudo thicket]

Nice nice

No ashour/oke I reckon

[sullen tinsel]

nah

[obtuse charm]

Do you have wind twins

[sullen tinsel]

No

They’re on list lol

[sullen tinsel]

New season, new me? posting box here, hoping to get some feedback on if there's anything i should cut or anyone i should add
Ramael, dark nez, ritsu, salah not shown.
Considering a water twins + 4 type of draft, playing around core picks of seara jeogun ritsu irene anavel stuff for t2, oli vela fire twin water gojo dark nez salah for midrange, and oli ethna shihou sekh for racing, though i probably won't be able to race too much?

Ex: idk where I'd ever really want to draft moore, so idk if i want to invest rune depth into him..
carlos might not be needed if sonia doesn't exist in rta anymore
if sonia doesn't exist in rta anymore, maybe i should cut her?
same with cami, b/c she really wants premium runes too iirc
dunno if i really need jade at this point b/c of how strong my anti t2 drafts are alr putting things in boxes

a lot of this stuff isn't quite skilled up all the way yet, but before i bother with skilling up everything and runing everything to be somewhat tuned to other stuff i'd like to get some feedback and mess around with this a bit before diving back into it

[prime hill]

lowkey full dmg moore is insane against cleave and easy to rune with fatal/will set. Mine is with 30% add dmg on Atk and atk buff+.

[sullen tinsel]

I assume water twinks should’ve just been something else?

Into mo long might’ve been too noncommittal

[obtuse charm]

@sullen tinsel do you have oke here

[sullen tinsel]

No

[sullen tinsel]

I wanted to pick anavel as well, but they had double immunity

So I picked an extra stripper

[flint vector]

Id probably do Seara over Oli and something over Ramael

Mo Long fp is probably going to be turn 2 regardless (Either slow bruisery, or 2nd turn snipe) so you dont really need Oli or ramael speed lead to outspeed

Oli might be fine with the argument of resetting woosa/jose but id probably prefer atleast a Seara/Jeogun opening here

[sullen tinsel]

I tried a seara line and it just got banned

I genuinely am so confused how I lost though

I felt pretty lost here as well, not too sure why I lost. Just couldn’t keep stuff controlled really

And couldn’t ever really move

I might just be struggling into water gojo

He’s a pretty common factor in all my losses but he doesn’t feel very oppressive

In none of these did he really do anything (I got outsped by wedjat in this one and masha proc t1 killed my jeogun before I moved) but somehow I keep losing to it

[haughty forge]

Ban Leo

[sullen tinsel]

i thought i'd just keep leo in a bag honestly

and if he banned jeogun i'm kinda low on strips

i guess he has snail stats though

[haughty forge]

I do a lot of stuff like this

[sullen tinsel]

0 strips kinda scares me but they had no immunity I guess? But will still kinda messes with u no?

I guess fed really pushes the pace though

Fair, I’ll try her next time

[flint vector]

Dont forget irene also strips with s3 so its strip, atk bar push and bad in one skill

Its not as bad as it seems to just not have a stripper

[haughty forge]

I’d like to note that

If Leo doesn’t crit on fed

It goes

Irene seal Giou

Seara -> Federica murder someone

[sullen tinsel]

i mean irene stripping is only for herself really, so the other strip reliant units like seara ritsu and in my case, anavel, don't get a strip. but with that being said, leo i guess invalidates that for seara, bc leo will never have double will

leo cirtting on fed procs her nem but seara can still bomb the leo no?

[flint vector]

Assuming the fed doesn't just kill Leo herself

[haughty forge]

Fed won’t kill Leo raw usually

And using s2 gives gio a turn before Irene

In this case Leo did trigger nem bc he procced into a crit

But the ideal situation is

Leo doesn’t boost fed -> Irene bags Giou -> combo kill Leo

[sullen tinsel]

S3 acc on ritsu?

[haughty forge]

yea

[sullen tinsel]

Bomb dmg Artis on seara?

[haughty forge]

yes

[sullen tinsel]

Do you run anything especially fast on vio or is most of ur stuff in this 160-170 spd range?

[haughty forge]

Pretty much everything is in this range

sans swift units

and a couple passive based units

[sullen tinsel]

Is there a reason u don’t put like a crazy vio set on a core unit?

[haughty forge]

Because you have to tune an entire draft

[obtuse charm]

it's not about one crazy set

[haughty forge]

and if i put a god set on idk seara that robs me of the runes for 2 ish units total

[obtuse charm]

you'd rather have 3 tuned 170-180 units vs 1 190

[haughty forge]

i have ~20 vio units tuned

• a smattering of despair

condensing sets costs me unit count

which makes you less flexible in draft

[sullen tinsel]

I might need to rune more stuff then, and drop some out of the 170-180 range

[haughty forge]

most of my stuff is in the

[sullen tinsel]

I think most of mine are in the 160-180, but I can rune more if I drop stuff outta the upper range

[haughty forge]

280-290 band

[obtuse charm]

my entire draft is +170s i think

[sullen tinsel]

With lead I assume

[haughty forge]

No

thats +165-175

[broken canyon]

Tower gives 15

[haughty forge]

well.... depending on the unit bc bases

^

[sullen tinsel]

Oh yeah

[haughty forge]

but yea runing like this means you have a lot of 1 off pivots

that you dont use often

but you have them prepped if you need them

jade for ex has a pretty good vio set that i dont use often

i could give the runes to other units ie anavel to improve their stats

but id rather have a good set on a flex pick so i can draft more open

[sullen tinsel]

Lf devils so I can do that lmao

Im still drafting some unskilled units

Bc I feel like they’re good in that slot

[haughty forge]

my mentality is

when im drafting ill sometimes have a spot where ill go

man x would be good here

and if it happens more than once i usually build x

ie why i runed anavel

[sullen tinsel]

I feel like the first 4 are just anti t2 exodia

[haughty forge]

/reruned praha after harvesting her set

p much yea

[sullen tinsel]

Idk when I’d ever want jade here

[haughty forge]

queued wolfy in normal battle

[sullen tinsel]

When I can pick these + anavel or something

[haughty forge]

whos one of the premier t2 players

and he died kinda badly to it

Iirc it was

[sullen tinsel]

I heard from u that u sacked him

[haughty forge]

Wolfy: Anavel -> Feng/Akroma -> Jose/Fellaria | Me: Seara Irene-> Ritsu/Jeogun-> Vela

Bans on Vela/Akroma

[haughty forge]

eh i think im generally favored

we both kinda flubbed on a lot of acc res checks

[sullen tinsel]

I never know when I’d want jade over some immunity or anavel or kass I guess

Is it like to stop some specific effects against specific drafts, or counter against specific units?

[obtuse charm]

tl victim

[haughty forge]

who

[sullen tinsel]

How often do u pick ritsu btw?

He feels so fun now but idk how flexible he is

I’ll pick him every game into t2 and most into 1.5

[haughty forge]

honestly i have no clue

hes kinda a

my opponent picked t2

so they will die

[sullen tinsel]

They keep letting mine thru and then I lose… but I think I need to try cr4

[haughty forge]

hows urs built

[sullen tinsel]

Just max acc with s4 hp and like 50 cr

160 spd ish, I don’t remember exactly

[obtuse charm]

it's hard to play

cause the same thing happens to me lol

but i don't usually draft fire kass with him

it's usually tl

[sullen tinsel]

How do u beat Layla hg cc comps?

[obtuse charm]

Go t1 u cant t2 that unit

Or ban her

Alternatively seara juno/nez > n1x tetra

Irene works too

[sullen tinsel]

Ye verde felt pretty bad into the water stuff

I’ll try tetra next time, I have one runed

Nez also felt pretty bad honestly

Ethna would’ve been nice maybe but he could’ve pivoted or something into a spot where I can’t ban hg

As a t1 option

Also a lotta these are Sonia traps I think?

[haughty forge]

Irene sekhmet

[sullen tinsel]

Thanks @obtuse charm @haughty forge I tried oli Juno n1x Ethna Irene and it murdered the next tomoe Layla i found

[haughty forge]

[sullen tinsel]

Turn 1ing felt really good… and they didn’t ban n1x

They picked 3 water so I couldn’t pick sekh I think

Picked Ethna lp instead

The Irene was huge

I feel like them missing one unit t1 completely neuters the comp

[haughty forge]

Show draft

[obtuse charm]

I think vero > juno ngl

[haughty forge]

Yea I don’t like Juno right now

I’d rather tetra or Vero in most spots

[sullen tinsel]

I took Juno from my selector so I’ve been trying to find spots for her I guess

But I’ll try vero instead

Is the logic that vero s2 nukes that comp?

[flint vector]

Keeps debuffs off the entire ally side as opposed to just one unit

[haughty forge]

^^

Juno is selfish

Vero is not

[flint vector]

Juno can't really solo too much now a days

[sullen tinsel]

Should I drop her runes to someone else then?

[sullen tinsel]

Still losin in c1

I cannot believe I lost this tbh

Ethna one shot monkey, seara one shot oli, and then I got 2v4d by Layla Shahat without ever getting to move

No clue what I was supposed to draft here

I feel like no matter what I pick Veronica Isis just melts me or I just die to a snipe

Like, I feel like I have just an unloseable draft

And then I just get completely destroyed, despite me probably outruning them by a massive margin

And I have 0 clue why

Shouldn’t Irene ritsu oli just destroy this whole team

Apparently they one shot all of my units and I can’t do shit about it

I don’t really understand 90% of my losses

In this case I thought I just outspeed and win

I outsped, ccd both damage dealers, and just died on repeat to revives

And unkillable shit and getting slowly sniped down

But I have no clue what would’ve been better here, I still think my game plan makes sense

And I’m still losing to Chandra vela safar

Still have no clue how to beat it I guess

I thought I could control vela with monkey and then just cycle with oli and win

With bombs and stuff

Just got ran over

My whole team got outsped except Ethna, but my Ethna didn’t get to move after s2 and sagar moved before my oli or Ethna or seara

Despite me having higher lead

Idk what I’m doing wrong ever, and I feel like no matter what the meta is or what I try to play, this always happens

A very unproductive day of rta, just losing on repeat with no clue why

Another 3 losses and I’m back to f3 from c3 so I’ll stop for today I guess

I guess closer to 5 losses

I don’t think it’s very productive to blame procs either cuz I’m definitely outruning every single player I’ve fought by a massive margin considering they’re all f3-c1 last season

[haughty forge]

you have a tendency to mash the same basic lines

without really adapting to what theyre doing

[haughty forge]

for example explain ur draft logic here

[obtuse charm]

Laylas forceban here

[sullen tinsel]

Main idea was to stun vela with shi hou, oli controls sagar and Ethna has good cycling with the megumi ban
I don’t really know things that are “good” into Chandra vela sagar, nor miles (every time I pick Leo into him I lose, not that it’s relevant in this case), but I thought that game plan made sense

[sullen tinsel]

Then I can’t Ethna him, and I just lose to shi hou no?

[obtuse charm]

Are you full will

Go on oli

[sullen tinsel]

I don’t disagree that my box is pretty small? I’ve been trying to pick certain bruisers when I see they’re pretty elemental heavy but that’s all I really understand for adaptations

[obtuse charm]

You 100% cannot leave layla shahat with your tean tho

[sullen tinsel]

Ye

[haughty forge]

So for me in that system heres my thoughts

Seara -> Chandra vela response

They currently have

no good strips

no good speed threat

but they grind well

so play off that

[sullen tinsel]

So I guess shi hou in that archetype is buns?

[haughty forge]

Hg is good - both strips their vela, stops them from taking a vela, and wards off certain opening lines

Uh it can be but you need to be able to be aggressive and mix in okeanos type units

[sullen tinsel]

Don’t have any I think

[sullen tinsel]

So something like hg + jeogun for 2x strip with dark nez ideas for immunity if they don’t have enough strips?

Think she’s kinda buns into the sagar but that’s what came to mind as a buffer for hg

I always found hg really awkward without a high buffs uptime though

[obtuse charm]

She has insanely low cds

Sagar kinda cheeks vs her for the same reason as ashour

Outside him being fire

[sullen tinsel]

And I guess fire monkey? I guess fire monkey also seems pretty okay into Chandra vela sagar

For the same ish reason

[sullen tinsel]

Her cooldowns seem pretty high to me no?

[sudden finch]

not really

• she reset cd allies if sagar resets one so it helps overall

[sullen tinsel]

I tried adding some variation and just kept losing

Here I thought hg was a guaranteed ban

But my ban ended up just being terrible and hg was just dead, my whole team got one shot

Ethna procced hg on seara and it was instantly lost

Here I saw Ethna miles so I sent the haegang + jeogun as a fire unit to make it harder for Ethna, and then when he went full t2 I went ritsu, was considering Irene but I thought that she kinda felt awkward into Ethna

I think I bagged Ethna and velaska and the moment one of them got out I lost on the spot

Idk if these lines are still very close minded

But I thought they made sense at the time for what I have runed

Maybe an anavel was good into that last game instead of wind nez, cuz the immunity isn’t doing too much, and slow into miles seems good?

But she ended up getting value after the fire Jin stunned me and she cleansed

[sullen tinsel]

Ye I underestimated their synergy together I guess thinking abt it more

I don’t think I actually got a turn until half my team was dead

[sullen tinsel]

idea: tried drafting stuff where cds didn't matter into oli sekh, thought that juno was particularly good cuz sekh can't s2

i don't think i got a turn until it was juno solo

pretty sure i had massively favored rune quality again

but idk, i underestimated the pushbacks i guess? i also thought that he didn't have enough strips so i could just pick 2x immunity

here i thought just a generic lead + jose was fine into tetsuya, and thought seara prolly better than oli cuz shes sorta ele neutral vs meg?
into hae layla thought it was a debuff comp so i went the n1x dark nez comp that dale was talkin bout, and into ethna maxi i thought they had too many strips so i could just threaten a sekh that got banned

got murdered, jose got 1 turn after ethna s3, and then nobody ever got a turn again (except seara right before she died)

was kinda surprised my team was so useless against debuffs

i've felt like every draft was winning today and lost like 5/6 matches or something, the only one i won was against a clearly new player using like, the support monster level runes

idk how to get better at evaluating these cuz i just keep losin

after thinking i have the better draft

and better ruens

this draft i knew i lost right away, was planning on banning haegang but coudln't think of a pick against seara douglas. was considering miles but atk buff seara kills too

took jeogun to take from the seara player and leav open the option of banning kovarci as well

[obtuse charm]

Sekh jeong cycling can just keep her from moving. Juno sucks rn

[obtuse charm]

You need sustain with n1x

[sullen tinsel]

so it seems to be, maybe i just derune her

[sullen tinsel]

i guess so, i keep picking this fuck into debuffs and it ain't working

maybe i just needed anavel here

instead of immunity

[obtuse charm]

You keep forcing nezuko in weird spots

[sullen tinsel]

i thought nez was supposed to be good into the haegang tomoe stuff

and low strip stuff

[obtuse charm]

Ok but monke goes on her and she does nothing there

Also every unit on that team has a strip

Wdym

[sullen tinsel]

i kinda forgot jeong had a strip tbh, was more thinking abt blocking his s3

[sullen tinsel]

i also thought that if they banned nez then juno would just solo

bc that's kinda what used to happen to me when i'd draft oli sekh into juno

[obtuse charm]

Jeongnam is also just good into juno

Huge nuke, sustain + pushback

[sullen tinsel]

Yeah he felt really impactful

I don’t own him so I didn’t realize that’s how oli sekh dealt with her

[proper laurel]

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[sullen tinsel]

Oh dear I didn’t even realize

That I went on a loss streak

Anyways, trying to push for p1-p2 on the last few days, looking for advice on where my drafts could’ve gone better. I generally have struggled this season into diana anyways

I think vero tetra was prolly incorrect, Sonia couldn’t kill my seara but my units never actually got a turn and never weren’t stunned. So she got 2 s2s off and my seara died.
I’ll have to revisit the other replays to remember the other ones

I think the shizuka one I killed jeogun t1, stole Diana turns, got shizukad, everyone waited a turn, and then I got one shot by Diana. I thought my oli could just solo at that point tbh

[obtuse charm]

I don't think you have the box runed atm for dark nez

If I was gonna do that itd be with Chandra/megumi haegang ethna stuff

Even when youre winning with it it looks off

[sullen tinsel]

i mostly pick her with haegang

actually at this point i only pick her with haegang

on 3/4

[obtuse charm]

Yea that's what youre supposed to do

[sullen tinsel]

yeah her + haegang has felt great

what do you pick on 2/3 when you fp seara -> oli jeo

cuz that's my line into seara fp

but i don't know how to beat it when i seara fp

[obtuse charm]

I wouldnt do it with oli/shi hou but seara jeo nez hae doesnt sound bad as long as you have a good 5p

Need dmg there tho

[sullen tinsel]

i pick that a lot

yeah

but im saying

if i fp seara

and they 1/2 oli jeo

[obtuse charm]

You lose jeogun

[sullen tinsel]

yeah

it feels so awkward- thats why when i face fp seara i pick oli jeo

idk what to do into it

[sullen tinsel]

this is one of my favorite lines- thus my hg wr lol

[obtuse charm]

Pick anavel as much as possible

Busted

Like you can just pivot atp

If they steal t1 just hae nez anavel

[sullen tinsel]

https://media.tenor.com/YjZ1MyDz-k8AAAAm/mhm.webp

i will try

nez has been perfomring a lot better with skillups as well

lmao she does a really nice amount of damage

on full adds

[sullen tinsel]

anavel into oli feels weird

but i guess that's what the other 2 are for

[solar arrow]

how did you lose this one

did you just get unlucky

the vero tetra one you stacked way too hard with nix vero tetra that all do similar things

you need to pick counters that counter in different ways, usually just 1 of each is enough and at most 2

for example you can go a swift/cd reset route too

maybe even leo just for their sonia

for some of the other drafts it seems like you tend to force picking 2 spd leads a lot

and often too early

you don't have to pick 2 spd leads and then also multiple swift threats

leaves you too open to just dying as soon as you miss or get resisted in anything

for example i dont really like your seara + shi hou + oliver/water twin starts

you should do seara OR oliver, then shi hou, then something else that's not a spd lead or another swift unit

haegang or jose are the most popular standards

[obtuse charm]

Hae if you have strong followup, jose if you wa t to pick the op bullshit unit

[sullen tinsel]

just a missed bomb into 3 megumi procs and stuns in a row i think, prolly just a sack unfortunately

will keep both points in mind

jose isn't skilled so i'll keep hae moreso at the fornt of my mind

[solar arrow]

jose is op should skill her next

i guess you could wait for bp

[sullen tinsel]

i was skilling my qt ds

lmao

but jose better than him prolly

[solar arrow]

you can fuse skillups

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ill check if i have some extra 4**s

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gonna try to post on this thread daily ish- trying to finish p3 for dhacker tmog lol.
i normally don't draft like this, but he stole my jeogun. I think this was a bad draft on my part, and i just happened to get a bit lucky in the fight with 2-3 resistances that probably shouldn't have happened. t1 was shi hou s3 on meg -> jose s2 on anavel (seems wrong?) -> layla s2 -> jeo box layla cuz layla doesn't have will anymore

i didn't like that sequence to start off

i was just kind of banking on lack of damage not killing my anavel (which did happen i guess?)

but shiz getting off all the shi hou stuff was pretty awkward

[haughty forge]

Uh that looks fine. Your opponent kind of blundered there with their 4/5

[sullen tinsel]

You think they needed more damage? Or something else

[obtuse charm]

Megumi does nothing there

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this layla was not what i wanted to pick. i had no clue what to pick tho

i have a helena runed but that feels awk into riley giou

ritsu seemed okay if i banned riley, but if i have to ban lp its awkward

shun would've been great i suppose

but i also kind of was tunneling a bit on wanting some sustain but anavel didn't feel useful into 3 win

wind*

oh dougie

im a rock. sorry

thanks for coming and listening to me talk to myself

and i guess im cooked lmao

got cooked. my monkey is on will, my sekh isn't

so he pushed back sekh -> monkey stun vela -> layla miss on shiz and i lost on the spot

probably should've gone hp lead but i don't think that really fixes what happened

not too sure what was correct here

I also have no answer to this. i was considering juno lp for a while, and was also considering in place of seara a diana

but not sure if that's correct or not

and now i got cleaved. tried to show that i was contesting and then pivot to leo- no matter what i thought of by 5p i thought i already lost though. I think I needed a lead on 3/4 to contest and then pivot leo

also note to self don't gamble on the sonia ban

[haughty forge]

Douglas

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rememberedh im after

@haughty forge

idk how he just slipped my mind

i think the 3 matches after i don't really know what i want to do looking at it, aside from the third wanting another lead

for the fed match, do you think that my idea was fine and i just got sacked by shiz resing layla, or do you think there was a much better line that i missed (there probably was)

[haughty forge]

I’d go in 2/3

*Oke in

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ah i don't have him

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Was Julianne the van

Just say that they don’t have dmg and call it a day

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I think I just played this one like a rock unfortunately

[obtuse charm]

sekh > christina they lose to no dmg

sekh resets christina, megumi goes on oli, irene bags tetsuya then u just kill christina

you won draft there omega hard so ye this was pilot diff

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Yeah agreed, thanks Dale

[obtuse charm]

like if you lost there it's pilot diff or haegang stunned everything and then it's just getting sacked

but at least thought process was correct so you oplayed around what you could

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I thought I had mega draft gap here

Idk if I lost to procs or piloting or what

[haughty forge]

Walk me thru how your opening turns goes

Bc this looks like a case of

“Devaraja aoe provokes you and you lose”

You threw

Really hard

With your ending

[sullen tinsel]

I just went on megumi

Gojo started with strip, nez onto Meg

Valantis moved

[haughty forge]

You won that probably if you went lp vero

[sullen tinsel]

Oh

[haughty forge]

Instead of a useless Josephine

[sullen tinsel]

Probably

[haughty forge]

Vero or tetra ban Sonia

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I thought Jose would be good cuz I thought valantis was built despair for some reason

But that’s bellenus 💀

[haughty forge]

I mean

Valantis is

Usually on despair

But even then it’s a waste of a slot

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Oh

Yeah

[haughty forge]

You take one turn and provoke one thing

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Vero wayyy better

[haughty forge]

And then she sits there

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Ur right