rwang6905's siege thread

[peak anchor]

I ran it with Carc instead of Khmun and it also worked, but it's slightly less safe than Khmun is because of what you said

The shield helps tractor a lot.

And then everything else is useless.

[solar junco]

i feel like this type of comp doesn't really work against better fuuki comps

like figaro and platy were quite literally just worthless

oh i just realized, i should've julied it

i can't get rid of my instinct to snipe odin instead of julieing

[peak anchor]

Yeah, that's why this comp works. If Figaro was Iris of course you can't run that comp.

[crystal lake]

dont julie chandra craig odin

[solar junco]

but maybe chandra craig is too scary

ye fair enough

its only for clara adriana variant i guess?

what the heck are we doing into chandra craig then

[crystal lake]

i always send this

[solar junco]

the stupid elad diana stuff?

oh

[crystal lake]

no

tripple wind is kinda ass

[solar junco]

i hate the stupid elad diana stuff

[crystal lake]

after the beast monk s1 buff

[solar junco]

it has to be so bad imo

[solar junco]

no byung but i guess just tank the odin def ignore and bruiser?

[crystal lake]

yea everything is -wind

he just dies

[solar junco]

oh kumar obliv too ig

i assume byung isn't really replaceable

[crystal lake]

he is

xing zhe works as good

or ritesh

[solar junco]

xz it is

[solar junco]

i need to start using this stuff tbh

[crystal lake]

byung is nice tho

decks are nice

[solar junco]

i wanted to julie the shazam (and probably lose) but julie wasn't runed

so i did that abomination

wanted a 30 min siege

[crystal lake]

julie into that is risky aswell ngl

[solar junco]

ye its kinda gross

feng or adriana were probably fine and i had both

just stupid me ig

[solar junco]

doesn't +fire kumar kill kumar?

[crystal lake]

maybe

[solar junco]

esp with craig stuff

this si just my anti claire kumar

he like

barely lives most claires i find

ig odin doesn't do as much as claire probably?

[crystal lake]

way less

especially hes on vio

this is vaynes

i saw him using goonar and I copied it

[solar junco]

I mean

That

Just looks like massive runegap to me LOL

i have a lot more acc i guess

guess that's where some of my stats went

[crystal lake]

my kumar didnt die yet with a good amount of hp less

I lied its 2k hp less

[solar junco]

not as little as mine tho

LOL

[crystal lake]

I lied again

[solar junco]

[crystal lake]

(its spd slot 2)

[solar junco]

don't even have it in me to be mad about that

now

im just

[crystal lake]

no need to be mad about someone elses runes, you'll get there

[lunar scaffold]

Is this s1 and or s3 acc angle or just not care about his debuffs?

[crystal lake]

s1 just gets damage

s3 skillups are nice tho

[sturdy yoke]

The goal is not die

[lunar scaffold]

No I meant your build has basically 0 acc klo. Do you run acc in artis? Or do you not care about acc on him?

[crystal lake]

nah i dont really care

acc is whatever if one of them just die

i would like some acc on camilla tho, i have 22 atm

and ive been trying out s2 acc over s3 recovery on her

[solar junco]

Slamming siege hits as fast as I can is

Not healthy for wr

[crystal lake]

I start inting when i rush my hits aswell dont worry

[proper solar]

Not rushing is one of the best ways to improve winrate

[solar junco]

some of my worst hits of the season

and my first 8-2

1. should've done this first probably
2. bolv hit was bonehead asf, dunno why i didn't send the leo right away. super high damage rakan tho, one shot my bolverk
3. that ciri eshir hit was probably dumb asf, but i was worried about swift sav and so i didn't wanna send kahli. hit zerath twice and won the 3v2, but was kinda risky
4. no replay for this, but just sent it and got lucky i outsped
5. tesa riley felt right here, hae was kinda shit. probably use dias instead or something?
6. i feel like i lost to procs on the maya one, but i also forgot to rerune maya on a rina build. tara got a def buff transformed s2 off, took her to 1 hp. i'm still not sure if this off/unit is real or not, but i think if i remember to rerune her as a rina it should be a lot better to prevent tara one shots? but it also felt like 9-10 procs to 2
7. sonia can reliably snipe mi ying right? she's high atk with atk buff so mi ying shouldn't really have any dr
8. standard
9. preset, got surprisingly low though
10. easy belial, wanted to try n1x. n1x was definitely not that useful even here lol

[solar junco]

11. last siege, i don't have 3 adrianas and 3 ciris

[gray marsh]

some ppl like to run tanky meph/water bird/ ld sniper--> kill brita against that ashour def

jx also likes to adriana double snipe with claire too- snipe the other 2 but tyranis and just kill whoever he revives, and eventually kill tyranis too

[solar junco]

have neither claire nor meph

[boreal vortex]

Wb the good old fashioned wind cyborg tech

[proper solar]

This would be another better option

[solar junco]

my julie didn't kill a lushen trap

[solar junco]

[crystal lake]

[solar junco]

Fuck it’s not sending

[sturdy yoke]

Yea uh don’t do that

[solar junco]

Feng did a good job

[sturdy yoke]

If they were tuned properly

And Tesa moved before sav and oblivioned Leo

You probably lose on the spot

[solar junco]

Still don’t have a thing I’m happy with

To beat it

[crystal lake]

Isnt everyone throwing mihyang draco taor into that

We dont see that defense on eu, cant judge

[proper solar]

Don't Leo it

That's the worst thing you can do

Do not do that

Yeonhwa core are still strong

Nothing has changed

[solar junco]

Which string is yeonhwa

Wind?

[proper solar]

If you want f2p you can do xiong Fei/Kumar lulu yeonhwa

If you have taor, run mihyang draco taor

[solar junco]

Nah no taor

I can kumar lulu yeonhwa ig

[proper solar]

I would try xiong Fei if you have it

Or if you are lazy/whatever go Feng Aaliyah Vela, it's not safe but against bad guilds it's fine. Just don't Leo, whatever you do

[peak anchor]

Hijacking this for a moment. Why is Yeonhwa strong into Tesa? I've never understood that really. Doesn't she lose her ability to tank once tesa moves?

[summer wolf]

Never heard of this monster before. :(

Never heard of this monster before. :(

[sturdy yoke]

Wtf

[summer wolf]

Yeonhwa (Wind String Master)

Wikia

1. Flower Blooming Song

Attacks the enemy to increase the chance of landing a Glancing Hit for 2 turns with a 50% chance.

Levels

Damage +5%
Effect Rate +5%
Damage +5%
Effect Rate +5%
Damage +15%
Effect Rate +15%

Multiplier

3.9*{ATK}

2. Melody of Resentment

Plays a song that decreases the HP of the enemy that gets a turn by 5% each and decreases the Attack Power for 1 turn with a 75% chance until the next turn starts. You become immune to inability effects, your Attack Speed gets slowed down by half and you cannot attack together or counterattack while playing the song. (Reusable in 4 turns)

Levels

Effect Rate +5%
Effect Rate +10%
Cooltime Turn -1
Cooltime Turn -1

3. Master Hands (Passive)

Uses the [Melody of Resentment] when you're attacked while not playing the song. The damage you receive will be decreased by 30% while playing the song. [Automatic Effect] (Reusable in 6 turns)

Levels

Cooltime Turn -1
Cooltime Turn -1

provided by SWARFARM

[sturdy yoke]

So @peak anchor she triggers on hit. She doesn’t actually need to be having damage reduction to be good as attack break does way more dr than actual dr

[peak anchor]

Oh. I thought the DR would be better. That makes sense. Thank you.

[sturdy yoke]

Attack break lowers the damage from attack scaling units by 50%

Yeonwha passive lowers it by 30%

(Together it lowers it by 65%)

[solar junco]

a new 🩼

[crystal lake]

gzgz

[solar junco]

Lookin for feedback on this off- runed it up last night but vela looks so suspicious

[cinder drum]

?statshare

[rugged dock]

When sharing monster stats, take a screenshot from the monster storage building rather than the monster menu. This lets you show stats, rune sets, and skillups all in 1 image.
https://imgur.com/bmhiJGs

[cinder drum]

would be good to get vela on max res too

were you intentionally trying to get crit on vela? not really worth it

just make him tanky as possible with max res

you have a lot of wasted stats on vela and aaliyah, like a lot of atk. look for places you can gem out atk for flat hp

[solar junco]

ah whoops forgot this

[solar junco]

yeah i saw some cr pieces that were fairly efficient. i guess his role in this team is similar to aaliyah's for just perma immunity

i'll try and rework the vela build

feng is vio destroy, vela is vio will, aaliyah is vio will

+1k hp from a gem over atk on aaliyah lol

[proper solar]

make aaliyah one speed slower or vela one speed faster and place vela in slot 2

you want vela moving before aaliyah

[solar junco]

Why?

Why is vela before Aaliyah better? Is it cuz ur wasting a turn of def buff?

Or in case Aaliyah is stunned

[proper solar]

well

if aaliyah gets stunned she can't def buff

[solar junco]

Ye ok

[cinder drum]

yea its definitely better for vela to move before aaliyah

but its fine if they are same speed, you just put vela in the middle position

aaliyah has a cleanse but it only cleanses 1 debuff

[solar junco]

He’s a bit fast

But I basically gave him a slot 2 spd with Amelia set

[tulip inlet]

cant you make your ayaya a bit slower?

or just doesnt work out with yr runes

so vela can go on exact amelia set

[solar junco]

Seems hard

[solar junco]

@crystal lake

[crystal lake]

King

Since when are you in pending

[solar junco]

About a month

Although, I’d like to ask questions before i go back to g3 eventually about counters to things I don’t have a proper counter for that I’m happy with

[crystal lake]

You have experienced player there its nice

[solar junco]

Everyone here sends 10 presets and goes back to farming

Ent finished siege in 15 minutes, I logged on at 3:17 or something and he was done

[crystal lake]

Are you planning on going back to more serious guilds? 👀

Or are you too busy atm

[solar junco]

Ye eventually

[peak anchor]

I still don't understand why you left for Pending in the first place

You were doing just fine in G3

[solar junco]

I was busy for the last few weeks with an insane amount of work, and I’m looking to move soon ish

[solar junco]

Define just fine

[crystal lake]

Yea thats what i thought

[peak anchor]

Ah. IRL stuff. That makes sense.

[crystal lake]

You seemed to enjoy higher sieges

[solar junco]

Ye it’s fun

[peak anchor]

You had a higher wr than me end of season I think, and I ended 85. That's pretty good.

[solar junco]

Fair- it just was a bit of a time sink for me waiting for hits to open up

[crystal lake]

Fair

Irl > anything else anyway

[peak anchor]

I thought you left because you thought you weren't cut out for G3 or something

But if you've got stuff going on then yeah, I get that.

[sturdy yoke]

No regurts

[solar junco]

When I logged on there were no towers up bc of all u warriors and so I logged off again

[crystal lake]

Thats also in my sieges dont worry

I never attack at the start anyway

[solar junco]

This went WAY worse than I thought it would

They managed to kill my elsha

[cinder drum]

lol no shit?

[solar junco]

I thought this would be a lot better :/

What should I have sent if elsha isn’t a go? Lushen?

[cinder drum]

yea lushen is fine

[solar junco]

I feel like if Giselle lives any cleave u send you lose on the spot

[cinder drum]

if giselle lives a lushen then she is not doing any damage

there is no way giselle can beat mihyang teon/dova

[solar junco]

The drobo was on swift

So I can’t send teon

[cinder drum]

then send wind nezuko

[solar junco]

28 nez vs robo is about even I guess?

[cinder drum]

you can use orochi if you want to race even

[solar junco]

Orochi is an option to even it out a bit more I guess

Yeah

Aside from lushen there’s not much consideration?

[cinder drum]

there's plenty of other cleaves in the game

chilling

mihyang adriana

[solar junco]

Moreso referring to bruisers I guess

[cinder drum]

eshir

[solar junco]

You would rather eshir tank this than Giselle? Or you’re saying you’d rather cleave with eshir and have him tank the leftover I guess, which makes a lot of sense

[cinder drum]

no i mean cleave wit heshir

[solar junco]

Like an eshir ciri slams Giselle and eshir eats Han damage

Seems good

[cinder drum]

there is absolutely no reason to even think about not cleaving this

the speed threat is a 101 base unit

[solar junco]

I saw mono element and thought “haha dummy”

[cinder drum]

none of the def units have any sort of defensive passive

[solar junco]

Insert brickge here

Ye no Dr no revive no high hp

No spd threat

Just kill em I guess

Thanks jx

[solar junco]

Is Mimirr Jeanne robo safe enough to use in apoc? Every time I watch this off into nana byung I swear it’s gonna lose, but might’ve been built poorly or somethin

[proper solar]

We don't ban anything but I think the offense is bad

If you run it and lose you are liable to being flamed by HR (jx)

[solar junco]

i found this in wgb and couldn't think of a hit, but its gotta be bad for some reason

not sure if you can reliably tank dominic

but cleaving vs a 24 ren seems hard

and mihy adriana full will kill ren doesn't really work b/c dominic just kills you

oh wait

mihy adriana full will tap ren and kill dom nvm

i think...

[crystal lake]

theres no strip

[proper solar]

Can bolverk it probably

[solar junco]

am i too scared of dom damage

[proper solar]

Well you have immunity

Can even get fancy and run like water beetle as the +1 haha

[solar junco]

that's kinda coool

i like that

thanks scarlet

[proper solar]

No worries

[solar junco]

this also works though? i don't really wanna rune mihy before the other sniper, just wanna confirm that itll work

[proper solar]

That does indeed work

Bit wasteful though in WGB set

[tulip inlet]

but its wgb, surely theres another def you want adriana more

[solar junco]

not particularly

plan was

1. hae riley tesa go sylvia
2. adriana/bolv
3. praline odin kass double snipe lamiella valantis and prayge momo doesn't solo
4. hyanes
5. leo feng tetra prayge

adriana prolly better for 1

5 seems sus, can send hae riley tesa there maybe

[crystal lake]

five is fine

[proper solar]

People love to trap Leo on obvious defenses like this

[solar junco]

cami belial then?

[crystal lake]

lets test it

[solar junco]

actually i feel elsha kills cami belial so i won't do that lmao

unless you bring a dias?

[crystal lake]

I'd xz leo tetra it

anyday of the week

if I lose its w.e

[proper solar]

Is this g1 WGB

If so it's fine done overcomplicate and send

[solar junco]

i don't like bolv into dom

til

maybe i runed poorly

[proper solar]

I'm confused, did you lose?

[solar junco]

i won

but it didn't go well

chandra and ren both buy a lotta time for the dom

[cinder drum]

you can tank dom better with rina talc or cami

[solar junco]

Time to revive this thread cuz I’m back in g3… will be posting again once I finish my 10

[crystal lake]

best news of the day

[solar junco]

kinda wanna make my post now that i finished siejj

i don't mind typing out the hits cuz the swgt isn't updated yet but idk if you wanna read thru that format

[solar junco]

1. Something puremage showed me last season, can be trapped by swift/full tank carc but it works nice if it’s scouted
2. Fire gojo was surprisingly a little scary after sniping berghild- I considered trying to tank with Dias + 2 water or something but iirc gojo has random targeting anyways?
3. Leo the Speed scaling Julianne and
4. Verad the hp lead
5. See 1
6. See 3
7. See 1
8. Double snipe Odin and prayge, I remember this got a little dicey when Shazam s1 stuck def break on ciri but she lived and was fine. Maybe Sonia was a safer sniper?
9. Yolo… Adriana outsped me but it wasn’t tuned properly. I assume same sorta principle as the wind zenitsu thing but I’m not too sure of the counter, or why Theo isn’t as good here.
   Not sure why 10 isn’t shown

[solar junco]

i think the worst hit here was probably the odin adriana theo? i wonder if just full tanking on tick 6 is the best option with kumar cami stuff

i also considered julie as an option because of apoc wr with it into clara adriana odin

[solar junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310394058501394534/1374200368921051176/image0.jpg?ex=682dd813&is=682c8693&hm=6fdacdbb2a035f82b51c363749e4a5634e8374420b0973da2789726530c8c4c4&
last missing hit

[crystal lake]

Dont throw julie into that, youre likely to not kill anything with julie at all

I also prefer a dark lead into that burger def instead of mihyang she could s2 stun adriana

[solar junco]

i'm not joking when i say that i did not consider adriana rigna for the +2

when i said dark tank + 2 water

that would've been much smarter

ty klo

[solar junco]

What about orochi kaito?

[crystal lake]

I would treat theo similar to a zenitsu i guess

[tulip inlet]

without the risk of getting stunlocked lol

just send one of the cami lines

[tulip inlet]

oh yeah also

[summer wolf]

Berghild (Light Mercenary Queen)

Wikia

3. Outlaw (Passive)

Gains immunity against inability effects. Each attack removes 1 beneficial effect granted on the enemy with a 75% chance. Increases your Attack Bar by 10% whenever an enemy or an ally gains a turn. [Automatic Effect]

Pos. Effects

Increase ATB (10%)
Immunity

Neg. Effects

Remove Buff (1 round(s))
Immune to Inability Effects

provided by SWARFARM

[tulip inlet]

you can get cut and get your day ruined

[solar junco]

Should’ve jultaned

Was a swift berghild but she didn’t cut thankfully

[solar junco]

So… I tried some funny stuff for wgb

Main things where I tried to mess around are ofc the first hits in both sets

This was a swift Irene- bagged miho t1 which is something I considered, I honestly thought I could kill Irene and the bag would come off though. Lesson learned I guess, if narsha went hard that turn that miho was in the bag I would’ve died. Almost sent Odin here, thanks @sturdy yoke for stopping me from doing a stupid. I wanted to try baiting the bag and shooting platy honestly, but I couldn’t think of a way to do it on the spot. Because of last siege I was somewhat fixated on the idea of jultan Adriana ciri… which might’ve been what I should’ve sent I guess

Except I wanted to send Adriana in 3, so that was out of the window.

Had all of chat flame me for my grogen piloting for 5… I’ll have to take a look at that later

I thought namib might be a funny idea here (any time I see Shahat I kind of wonder if namib will do it) and my namib is level 35 and 0-3. Ent says the answer was tetra moogwang press auto, and while I don’t have moogwang I’m sure there were plenty of other options I could’ve tried

The Kumar lived my Odin in 9 but my runes are just bad I think

[crystal lake]

Wgb is nice to live test some more cooked offs you think can work

[plucky turtle]

fwiw I felt the Carcano hit was close to working it’s just Namib died too quick and Carc missed crit on wind

It was pretty smart to bring Carc as they have shields

[solar junco]

Looking at it now after a nap, praline fire kass Sonia might’ve been better

Claire if u have but I don’t, so maybe kahli instead of Sonia

Kahli let’s u cr lead too I think)

[solar junco]

@quick narwhal

[quick narwhal]

.

[solar junco]

Welp uh I deserve some hate for this one

I’ve just been inting

1. Didn’t kill Sylvia, jultan died t2
2. No def breaks idk if suicide is best against this thing, or some halphas garo idea or something- iirc the latter sucks tho
3. Worked fine
4. I know this is bad, but I don’t have a great answer. All my cleave runes were used in the losses above already
5. Leo trap. Dunno what the other answer would be here considering everything here has anticleave passives and dark narsha still speed scales

1. Standard
2. Kunite got blown the fuck up
3. Standard
4. Thought this one was pretty cool, I liked how well this one worked.
5. Same as 4, except even better

I tried some new units/offenses I never send because I don’t really hit these Sylvia defenses too much. Results against Sylvia were obviously awful, but I’m pretty happy with my random on the fly stuff

[boreal vortex]

U have speed up on rigna?

[solar junco]

Only 19%

[quick narwhal]

leo is fake into xiana her s3 doesnt scale spd

[solar junco]

Oh wait it doesn’t? I just assumed… whoops

[solar junco]

Well… time to expose my worst int of all time

Starting from the bottom

Er I guess from the top would be easier

1. scarlet has 2 Deborah’s runed apparently, so when I checked our history and saw “slow, no will, high damage”, I sent Julie…. And saw shield will. Didn’t even swap runes, just a different Deborah
2. Vio Lora, thought this was fine
3. Not the best hit, but scouted vio iirc
4. I think I like the tesa riley dongbaek I thought of a bit more into this- I’m not sure if it’s actually good here though. Feng sucked, vela almost died t1 to a proc or 2 (which isn’t surprising and something I knew going in. I just couldn’t think of an answer)
5. Standard, snipe jeogun first. Do u mihy s2 seara t1 or s3?
6. Leo feng into speed scaler, seems fine?
7. The thing I thought of earlier… felt really good, didn’t even have to Tara s3
8. Thanks carry…. I was scared of swift Giselle before sending tho ngl.
9. Fuck you jx. I guess Odin is better?
10. I just assumed mihy would kill zeni. I guess not. Khmun was better, but even then nup tells me it’s bad so I’m at a loss on how I should’ve beaten it after finding out how it was built?

@cinder drum I can get rid of notes here abt ur defenses if u want?

And scarlets

[crystal lake]

he can just change the def runes if he cares

[solar junco]

Anyways, this was an absolute atrocity of a siege where I just completely inted twice- I’m fine with the Sonia hit because jx trapping me makes me feel like I had the right idea

[proper solar]

i never said i only had two setups

[solar junco]

Fair enough lol- can you point me in the right direction for some of these?

[proper solar]

what the fuck im not gonna teach you how ot beat what we run

[solar junco]

[proper solar]

don't julie me

that is my recommendation

haha

in all seriousness

most of these hits look fine

i don't think khmun adriana sonia is a bad counter. you probably just don't have a great sonia

[solar junco]

I tried to be a bit more specific on the questions- do you think Odin would be better than Sonia? Or stick with Sonia and just say jx rune gapped me

[proper solar]

this is also a thing where you're just getting punished because you're playing against better guilds

don't you think you're going to get damage checked?

it's not like odin is a speed scaling unit

nup doesn't play siege at this level anymore, i have no idea why he said khmun is bad but it's not

[solar junco]

Yes, I think I will… but my Sonia will be checked. I assumed the Sonia was the right idea because jx was actively trapping it, but that means that it can be trapped as well and it’s a known counter I guess? I’m finding that whatever I come up with is already a known counter, or it’s bad LOL

[proper solar]

uh

just farm better runes dude

show your sonia

[crystal lake]

did your sonia not kill ?

[proper solar]

no he got def trapped

i think

[crystal lake]

oh lol

[solar junco]

I did indeed get def trapped

[proper solar]

show sonia

[solar junco]

It was 1950 atk or so, atk Inc on both sides

[proper solar]

like

+1950?

[solar junco]

Yes ofc LOL

[proper solar]

farm better runes

[solar junco]

[proper solar]

my sonia on my old account before reincarnation

[solar junco]

Can I hit thru the def trap?

[proper solar]

was +2.1k while speed tuned

so like

my runes were never really anything special

just farm better runes

i can tell you that if you're +1950 that is indeed a weak sonia

i am not a sonia ignore defense mathematician but that would be a sonia that would be on the easier side to trap

[solar junco]

I was like, 2100 on +170 or so before

But that’s too slow I think

[proper solar]

yeah you gotta farm a better rune

[cinder drum]

for a monster with the base def of monte (650-700 base def range) it's completely a rune quality thing

[proper solar]

it's definitely possible to have rune quality where it isn't feasible to be trapped

[cinder drum]

yep

(for that kind of base def)

[crystal lake]

my guildie had a def trap calculator once

I wouldve loved to have that now

am too lazy to do the math

[cinder drum]

there's people in our guild with sonia that can hit through my monte

but my own sonia cannot

[crystal lake]

I probably could aswell

[cinder drum]

im sure klo can

[crystal lake]

but thats not the point its a bit unlucky

rwang will most likely see barely any def trap montes

he hit you guys 9 times which is huge

good to learn some things here n there

[solar junco]

Essentially, keep sending it, farm more because Monte base defense I shouldn’t get trapped by, and this is a solid counter? And if I sent Khmun, it wouldn’t be bad at all with the lushen if I knew jx build from the first hit

[crystal lake]

i like khmun into that

you wouldve won if you killed monte im sure about it

[proper solar]

[crystal lake]

these julie hits on the other hand

[solar junco]

Scouted vio

And no Adriana, I would’ve Adriana’d the Lora if I could’ve

But my swift kahli gets outsped by that Lora

[solar junco]

I’ll keep it in mind

Idk why I took mihy when I remember ppl telling me Khmun was the lead of choice

[proper solar]

well mihyang is often what you choose with adriana

but in this case khmun is better

[solar junco]

And I literally took Khmun because of that the offense before to hit the zenitsu and tank the moore LOL

I just brain farted

And now jx knows I’m bad

[crystal lake]

I think it might be nothing new to him

[solar junco]

[crystal lake]

that youre less experienced than others

[solar junco]

Oh you know what? I could’ve bolverked this. The carc and Theo weren’t tuned to Lora

But they were really high damage so might need a gyomei

[crystal lake]

you won its fine dont worry

not sure if anyone else besides apocococococ is running clara vigor deborah tho

your guild might need to cook into that

[solar junco]

Ya I wanted to learn as much as I could this siege so I tried to hit apoc as much as I could

I think I got a lot of valuable experience from this one siege compared to 10-0ing over and over against worse g3 guilds

And I didn’t get benched

[cinder drum]

i dont care btw, i change defs often enough for it to not matter. plus if anyone actually sees this and uses this against us then props to them

[solar junco]

Thanks 🙂 yeah this helped me a lot, so I’m really happy to tank my wr to learn from you guys

[cinder drum]

btw if you have tirsa

tirsa is basically just a bit worse sonia but can't get trapped

[solar junco]

I didn’t really mention jultan teon into that Sylvia Giselle thing, would u ever be worried about swift Giselle? That’s something I was really scared of

[solar junco]

Nah, I don’t

[cinder drum]

rigna of course should be considered too but she's a bit more dangerous to use into wind zeni

[solar junco]

I was looking thru wind ele sniper

And the only one I had was Odin

[cinder drum]

odin and other non spd scaling snipers are somewhat usable but

its much harder to get enough damage on them

[solar junco]

That’s why I was asking about him, but tirsa makes a lot more sense! Good callout

[cinder drum]

and then you start running into issues doing enough dmg into a tanky lushen trap

as you get higher there will be more people running these defs on various different traps

triple hp -wind

swift moore

[solar junco]

I feel like you don’t have to even trap lushen for moore to live tbh

[cinder drum]

etc

you're right

[solar junco]

Urs just did an exceptional amount of damage

[cinder drum]

but the generic tanky -wind build

is not just for lushen

its good enough some tiana stuff as well

just good generic anti cleave build

[solar junco]

Fair enough

I also build some stuff generically on -wind for that reason

[cinder drum]

overall if you get your rune quality up or are just playing people at your level,

khmun adriana sonia would be fine

khmun adriana tirsa would be even better

[solar junco]

I never would’ve considered her, thanks jx 🙂

And simi is coming to steal the idea

[tulip inlet]

would tirsa also not run into this damage issue against lushen traps?

(yes)

I got her recently but havent touched her since she seems insanely hard to rune

[cinder drum]

tirsa does way more damage with adriana than an odin would

its still going to require good runes like any other cleave yes

[solar junco]

Yeah she’ll do less damage, so she’ll need good runes, but I think against those builds

Khmun can finish off the monte

And you’re still good to go

[tulip inlet]

Ill try it out

[solar junco]

Do I get a belli tech for this

[tulip inlet]

we have nothing you want dont worry

[solar junco]

Keeping secrets like the ball from me

[proper solar]

Haha, I left this out intentionally

Jx always gives the best suggestions

[solar junco]

I’ll keep the tirsa thing to myself then

[lunar scaffold]

Luckily nobody can read this thread

[cinder drum]

Luckily this is how apoc recruits, we find people who can do the reading

[lunar scaffold]

Now you’re leaking the real juice

[solar junco]

!

Waiting to go against apoc again so I can go 10-0 with the juice

[proper solar]

<--- diversity hire

[lunar scaffold]

?scarlet

[rugged dock]

idiot advisor nice reading comprehension

[solar junco]

It’s okay scarlet!

At least you got hired

<—- not employed by apoc

[tulip inlet]

youre pointing at nothing...

[solar junco]

I’m not employed by apoc for a reason

[tulip inlet]

dont worry, im the diversity hire in BELLIGERENT

or guild mascot, like scarlet said...

[quick narwhal]

tirsa isnt really tech if you read but yeah like everyone said you need good runes

[proper solar]

People fail to put two and two together quite often

[solar junco]

I just don’t own her, so I didn’t consider her- just looked thru for wind snipers in my inventory basically

If I had her I would’ve seen, but I would’ve sent Sonia bc I wouldn’t have considered def def def Monte anyways

On top of that, I didn’t know it was such a common idea tbh

[proper solar]

People don't think of her that often

[solar junco]

Well, I’ve been randomly making shit up here and there, and with very piss poor results this time yet again

Not too sure what the happy easy answer here is

Praline snipe sounds shit , which is how I like to deal with odins, lushen sounds trappable (or mine is) bc u bring mihy for kinki
Sniped betta, got stunned, rest is history

And I didn’t think not cleaving was a good idea, shaman sounded suspicious

I also learned during the match what herteit did which probably isn’t advisable, never seen him outside of triana vigor which I always pralined and prayed

I also wonder if this is an acceptable answer- I don’t think I built it right

But it was funny to watch vritra one shot the poor light guy

My logic was that I could probably just tank this with vritra and bring a few passive healers that don’t care about getting reset, rat cleanses def breaks

So as long as u live one onslaught, ur fine? Put everyone on -light and prayed, but my Khmun was squishier than I’d have liked

I almost never bruiser off 4*s so this was just something I just randomly sent after being mad about my other loss

[peak anchor]

I think I would prefer something like Kunite Driller Tetra here instead. While Vritra is most likely fine, he doesn't have any damage reduction except his threat state, which, if he's attacked when that's down, means he takes the full damage. And if he gets low enough Vritra can't get that up in the first place.

With Kunite Driller Tetra, you have damage reduction on the entire team that makes Danu essentially useless, even if you're defense broken.

The other issue with your comp is that it's easy for Racuni to die on open. If Cichlid S3's Racuni, then Danu moves next, he can kill Racuni. Seems a little too risky. If you run Kunite Tetra, it's much harder for Tetra to die, and neither Kunite nor Driller can die even if defense broken from Cichlid.

[quick narwhal]

You don’t want a tetra here

You need something that passive cleanse inabilities

Aka rat

Or else you just run the chance of getting stung locked

[solar junco]

Magi suggested kunite tetra jultan iirc

[peak anchor]

That happens with this comp a lot, but it really doesn't matter because eventually you get out. They can't kill anything, even if Danu vio procs a ton.

I've had times where I'm stun locked for something like 10-11 turns in a row before Driller finally moves, but there's never kill pressure, so it's just a patience game.

You can use Racuni instead to cleanse stuns though. That should work just as well.

I like Tetra just because I fear the def breaks more than the stuns.

I'd rather my stuff all be stunned with 0 def breaks than my stuff not be stunned by a def break lingers on my healer.

[quick narwhal]

I used to use Kunite tetra Into Danu many szns ago, I had never lost until I ran into a Danu that stun locked me and I didn’t proc out

You don’t want your win con to be oh I will proc outta stun

[peak anchor]

Nah. For me it's always been "eventually he'll miss it or Tetra will be able to cleanse with S2"

But I see your point. I suppose the Danu could get freaky and start killing stuff if he procs enough and you are stunned enough.

[sturdy yoke]

I think in this case

Kunite jultan autohealer works fine

They don’t have pushback and they do fuck all vs Kunite

I’d actually prefer tetra bc cd Platy probably won’t hit her

[quick narwhal]

I mean ig

But you can still just get stun locked and lose

[sturdy yoke]

Kunite can’t be stunned
Jultan will passively kill Danu pretty fast

I dont think you need to actually move

High acc high damage Danu will just die to jultan passive in like 30s

High damage won’t stun things

High acc won’t kill things

Your loss con is ur healer dropping at an inopportune time and tetra being water safeguards against the random cd platy

[quick narwhal]

I missed you said Jultan I thought we where still using crawler

[solar junco]

my goat magi

[solar junco]

Honestly the Khmun Sonia I remember not feeling fantastic, but y’all said it was solid. I built my Adriana wrong, I remember, but the Khmun I’m not sure how to build tbh to solo zenitsu reliably. Just a standard vio spd cr hp build?

[proper solar]

From top going down
1/2/4/7 are all bad

[solar junco]

The rest feels pretty standard with the understanding that the grogen hit is garbage but I don’t have a second idea, and the feng hits are somewhat unsafe but I feel like it’s hard to lose often

[proper solar]

JLH into ashour berg Taranys?????

Like what?

[solar junco]

Huh?

That’s 3 isn’t it

[proper solar]

Yeah I cNf count sorry

2 is also bad

Can't

[solar junco]

So 12347?

[proper solar]

1/2/3/4/7

Yes

All of those are bad hits

[solar junco]

So I am just a giga shitter

[proper solar]

I mean why are we JLHing this

[solar junco]

Why is jlh bad, thought it was fine here tbh…

[proper solar]

Nothing speed scaling

[solar junco]

Ye but Helena cooks this stuff no?

[cinder drum]

what happens when you miss the provoke on ashour

what happens when berg resists some pushbacks, and then cuts in with her passive and then stuns your pony in human form

these are all super tanky units you won't kill anything with just 1 or 2 helena hits. they have plenty of chances to proc and stabilize

[proper solar]

For #2 you are again using Leo for no reason

[solar junco]

Helena has some control, Leo has will, Jeanne has s2? I know you guys are probably right and I’m probably wrong, I just feel inclined to explain why I took it

[proper solar]

Using Leo "for stats" or whatever it is people say is awful

Don't do that

[cinder drum]

that's the "super bad" category, it's separate

[solar junco]

I see- it’s not so much about the specific way that I die, just that the sort of idea of the offense doesn’t work well into this kind of slow defense? I can see stuff going out of control I guess, and maybe super high damage stuff sniping off Leo or just going crazy with ashour procs to heal?

[proper solar]

If you had used Feng Leo tetra into the twinks Ren dark Zenitsu that would be much better

However without Leo

Dark Zenitsu can straight up fuck you

[solar junco]

Dark zenitsu scales on speed I’m assuming?

[proper solar]

He does

If you wanted to turn 2 with Feng that is how you would do it

[solar junco]

I see- I put everyone on -dark to mitigate that, but someone else sent the same offense and lost

[proper solar]

Feng Leo tetra?

[solar junco]

So it was definitely not good

Nah

[proper solar]

And lost?

[solar junco]

The Aaliyah

Into dark zeni

[proper solar]

Wait you sent the same offense someone lost with?

[solar junco]

Nono

Someone copied me

[proper solar]

Yeah no you shouldn't be doing this

Its bad

[solar junco]

But my stuff was max res and they had low acc- the person who copied me didn’t have max res

So I lucked out

[proper solar]

Shoulda stayed in belligerent

[solar junco]

Anyways, 1 was discussed at length for being shit. Seems like kunite rat/tetra vritra/jultan is fine?
2 I was considering raoq as my answer, but maybe I should’ve just Aaliyah vela’d it? Byung strips into max res stuff sounds pretty ass.
3. I guess I could try my full tank -wind maya miles lulu?
7 I can Leo next time?

[solar junco]

[tulip inlet]

we both know we do the same

[solar junco]

?

[tulip inlet]

.

[solar junco]

Oh lmao

[proper solar]

This MF would be using real counters if he copy pasted from you guys

Because I help you guys

[tulip inlet]

[solar junco]

But I don’t copy paste any of my guildies

They copy pasted me

[proper solar]

Using good counters that you guild has is not a bad thing

[solar junco]

So I’m out here making the stuff

They don’t have good counters

[proper solar]

.

[solar junco]

Belli too popular

[sturdy yoke]

i don’t think the Grogen is safe

[solar junco]

It’s not

[proper solar]

Yeah I mean that's not good either but whatever

I just choose my battles there

[solar junco]

It’s shit, but I don’t have a second answer

[proper solar]

If he is gonna send grogen I can't help

[solar junco]

I know it’s shit I just don’t have answers and I think the water string is shit too

[proper solar]

Which songseol counter are you referring to?

[solar junco]

Tesa platy? Was ours iirc?

[proper solar]

I've heard of a few so it's hard for me to gauge

[solar junco]

I’d have to check but that’s what came to mind

I know they have a bunch in the guild research so I’ll take a look

[proper solar]

Its not great but I've seen worse at least

Haha

[sturdy yoke]

1. You really ought to use Kunite here
2. Kinda neutral on tbh. I’d rather you hyanes this but Nicki isn’t a real unit here regardless
3. sir
4. Yea this has been discussed to death I won’t touch this
5. I dislike this versus beast riders because you can’t guarantee a kill on xiana which makes things kinda weird
6. Fine as long as you have will on the non khmun units
7. Uh… read dark Zenitsu
8. Ah you did this in the reverse order didn’t you this was before the other nicki hit
9. Bad
10. Probably ok? Definitely losable tho

[solar junco]

By default it’s in reverse order yeah haha idk how to unreverse it

[solar junco]

I hesitate to share these cuz honestly this wgb was just slop. Me trying not to rely on crutches as much as possible and just getting fed up with trying to think of counters to 2018 defenses

But here goes I guess

1. Started from bottom to top here. Obviously dogshit. Obviously deserve to lose. Why the fuck can’t I think of a seara Orion rakan counter? No clue. Sat for 15 minutes and didn’t come up with a single one outside of Adriana, who I already locked for 2 because I don’t have kinki.
2. Crutch.
3. Tried this out, apparently this is standard but I like it.
4. I’m fucking stupid. “Oh I’ll tank the zenitsu with tractor and then I can do whatever”. Til zenitsu s1 doesnt give a flying fuck about element. No clue what I’d use into this, guess just cami windy or something. Edit: Kumar doesn’t give a fuck about windy, guess I just don’t know
5. Outsped by Adriana, but it was fun and lifted my spirits a little after a rough day. Got two ties off so it was a little fun, and honestly into nana byung stuff I could see it being pretty okay. But maybe I’m wrong, idk.

More slop.

1. Deserved to lose this one. Again, couldn’t think of anything. Wanted to suicide both 1rs now that I think of it but John s3 resets iunu and the rakan is too tanky.
2. Slop offense for slop defense. 3 passives so just tesa seemed fine.
3. Surprisingly dogshit. Nem ophilia would’ve killed me but I got lucky. Probably only use into stuff without immunity to avoid this. Or maybe it’s just slop and I’m stupid
4. I’m fucking stupid. Anyone else forget Adriana oblivions? Idk if talc has a passive but if he doesn’t then that would’ve been smarter. Maya + 2 fire would’ve also been fine, and probably pretty funny.
5. Crutch, haegang would’ve been fine I guess.

Summary:

https://tenor.com/view/slop-egobuns-elobum-gif-8995693457887331815

Sometimes I wonder if I’ve learned nothing since starting

Or it’s just a rough week

[summer wolf]

Never heard of this monster before. :(

Never heard of this monster before. :(

[sturdy yoke]

1. Bolverk still works fine here
2. Sure
3. I think miles is one of the worse +1s here but fine otherwise
4. Zeni s4 doesn’t care about element true, but s1 obeys standard targeting rules. Did they get ethna low enough to retarget?
5. content!

[solar junco]

1. i tried bolv amelia windy here before in g1 siege and lost
2. don't own the good ones, i'm aware of 2 nat 5s that are better
3. ethna was 60% and he hit her with another 2 s1's i think

[sturdy yoke]

1. Put ur adriana here
2. Imo don’t use cami here use rina. Cami is super overkill for a shitty defense like this
3. You don’t own bolverk do you
4. I’d be cautious picking rina here because oblivion does exist. There’s no speed lead though so just saying
5. Honestly this defense isn’t killing shit just do something bulky with cleansers

[sturdy yoke]

Psst there are better f2p units than miles

[solar junco]

1. my adriana gets outsped on even, but yeah normally i'd just slam her there. wouldn't do it in siege tho
2. didn't relaly wanna rely on cami for good stuff but i saw i had her still around so i just slapped her in
3. i've lost this with bolverk in g1 siege too, but i guess mo long fixes it
4. whoops praline snipe
5. haegang whoops

[solar junco]

suiki i know simi likes

but it doesn't sound better than miles

[sturdy yoke]

Suiki isn’t who I had in mind

[solar junco]

other units i see are stella, kyle, aegir that have some sorta self setup? stella lets you not hit tara first tho i guess

sounds funny

woah her bases are garbage tho

oh

ryan?

[sturdy yoke]

there’s a couple

[solar junco]

looks similar to logan

[sturdy yoke]

I’ll leave this an as exercise to you

[solar junco]

[sturdy yoke]

But between nat 4s and 2as there’s some better units than miles

[solar junco]

is bolverk actually acceptable into those two

[sturdy yoke]

Yea

Although there are some tricks to minmax

[solar junco]

into orion i got def broken and then died to bombs & rakan provokes

i feel like without a haegang here you kinda just die

but with a haegang your atk bar can get wonky and ur amelia might not move last

into theo i couldn't get a kill with windy, but vamp molverk might solve that. haven't really tried that version.

also i usually praline bethony the theo... i remember getting damage checked by this defense semi recently and decided to try the content offense

i will try molverk next time

[peak anchor]

Look, you are better than this. I have seen you hit well before. I've seen you make good choices with offenses.

You got this.

[solar junco]

means a lot

i'll do better in siege tomorrow

[proper solar]

What's wrong with garo draco kahli/federica for Seara Orion rakan

Just chill dude

Stop being emo

I used to get like this, it's super bad for you, it doesn't help you improve

Like Jayke said you can do better. When things go wrong don't get emo, just focus on what went wrong

[solar junco]

prepare

to be disappointed again

these two hits are piss poor

losing the ethna hit makes me unsure that this is even decent, but wind monkey did feel a hell of a lot better than ethna

[sturdy yoke]

Uh i think ethna probably isnt the best choice into this kind of aoe damage

ignoring craig s1/2 byung and lami do a good bit of aoe damage

im guessing you just lost ethna to craig -> byung -Lami -> lami s2?

[solar junco]

Yep

I detailed that exact sequence out before I sent it as my loss condition

But I already sent the monkey beforehand and didn’t have another wind unit

[sturdy yoke]

no verad right

[solar junco]

[sturdy yoke]

[solar junco]

Scooter already yelled at me for that

[sturdy yoke]

[solar junco]

Or mentioned that I should’ve used Verad is more accurate

I didn’t have them on swift, but I could’ve swapped to swift

[sturdy yoke]

i like leaving

the hyanes team on just random +205/210 swift sets

[solar junco]

Exactly for stuff like this I guess

[sturdy yoke]

it works ~ the same and means you dont have to invest fast violent runes into an offense

also that yea

In a tourney setting you can minmax your sets but for the purposes of not having to move ur fast vio runes onto a spammed offense

mid tier swift is good

[peak anchor]

What was your idea behind Feng/Aaliyah/Jultan into Tarnisha?

[solar junco]

I didn’t know what tarnisha did aside from obliv. So no idea

[peak anchor]

Okay, so why did you send it then? If you knew she had oblivion why send it in the first place?

[solar junco]

Got perma cc’d, one random feng turn killed the water guy and I was home free

[peak anchor]

Were you rushed or something?

[solar junco]

Somewhat? I think we’re gonna lose the siege anyways, but honestly obliv wasn’t really a problem to me

[sturdy yoke]

Jultan isnt a good choice into oblivion

Imo

Elucia is good there

[solar junco]

I thought she would just obliv feng and I’d just sit there for a little bit

[peak anchor]

Well she can spread oblivion by hitting Feng.

And she can also steal counterattack from Feng

[solar junco]

And berghild and the water guy would just hit jultan

And I’d just sit there for a while with Aaliyah while whittling down the blue guy

[sturdy yoke]

Is this a ?read incident

[solar junco]

That was the idea

Turns out she just spreads every cc and debuff known to man across the team every turn

[peak anchor]

So, I'm not saying this to be mean, I just really want to help:

You have got to stop being so nonchalant about sending offenses.

You're getting all emo about losing, but then it turns out you didn't even read Tarnisha's skills.

Tarnisha is quite possibly one of the most powerful and versatile units in the game for siege right now, and you don't even know what she does.

If you want to stop feeling like this and losing, you've got to start putting in the effort to read the skills and figure out how they work. Test things if you have to in your test tower. You can't keep doing this and expect results.

[solar junco]

First time I’ve ever seen her ngl. But yeah fair enough, probably should make sure I have more than a vague understanding of what shit does before sending it.
I was fine last season cuz I knew all the units already, but this season like half the units are new to me

[peak anchor]

If you really want to stop getting down and feeling like you're failing, set this rule. It's what I did:

[solar junco]

I honestly didn’t even consider that that fire thing could do more than obliv a single target

[peak anchor]

Any time I go to hit any defense, I MUST read every skill that monster has, even if I already think I know what they do. Then, I have to write down all the effects those skills do.

In Tarnisha's case, you'd write Oblivion, DoT, Silence, spread.

[solar junco]

Thinking about it, I’d fail that knowledge check for lamiella, water twins, ren, and a variety of other units

[peak anchor]

It will force you into a habit of reading skills for monsters you don't understand, and it will force you to think carefully about what the monsters all do.

[solar junco]

Fair enough, I’ll try that next time

Perhaps not writing it down, but at the very least making a point to read everything before sending

[peak anchor]

If you really are intent on improving, you need to start putting in the effort for it. You can't just keep sending hits like you did in G1 and expect to win.

It sucks. I won't deny that.

I remember getting SO EXHAUSTED from writing down skills over and over again

But holy cow did I improve.

Again, you are better than this. You can do it. We all believe in you.

[solar junco]

thanks jayke

These were the only few incidents, rest was pretty standard

I’ll try my best next siejj too

@sturdy yoke how is bolv Amelia gapsoo into twins ren light mac

That one was a rushed hit

[sturdy yoke]

audrey hurts

a lot

might be fine but audrey scares me

[solar junco]

Thought we liked gapsoo into her, I gave him a rina set with the idea Audrey would give him turns

Er not a rina set, a Leo tetra set

Same thing tho

The only thing I was scared of was the water twin randomly def breaking my Amelia or bolv

But if gapsoo is alr def broken i thought it was probably okay? Maybe a different fire unit over Amelia to tank that?

[solar junco]

me stupid

me pick tetra and n1x and juno together

i haven't used juno in siege at all but this was a good time to pick her i think. turns out n1x fucks juno

1. really sketchy surprisingly, killed kumar and it was hard to recover
2. , i guess juno tetra vero would've been a helluva lot better. wanted to try shiny thing outside of ad
3. wanted to try dongbaek into this stuff again b/c it felt so good last time. didn't feel the worst but def break + brand kinda hurt. i think tetra was a better healer here, aaliyah stuff gets stripped too often anyways. if i brought tetra, then miles would probably have to be replaced with some other water unit... probably manon if i had her for all the random multihits
4. honestly this offense feels really good to me. might be content? but i really like it
5. my first mork trap. cich did a pretty ridiculous amount of damage to my adriana. i probably should've switched focus when i saw it was a tanky mimirr, but won anyways

[solar junco]

hit the goat and got punished

[sturdy yoke]

sir

You got blown up by mimirr didn’t you

Lmao

[solar junco]

no

i got aoe stunned

multiple times

[sturdy yoke]

how

[solar junco]

vritra

[sturdy yoke]

You have two immunity casters

[solar junco]

does stuff

vritra does stuff what can i say

[sturdy yoke]

is your ayaya on will

[solar junco]

and cd moore

does stuff

yes she's on will

[peak anchor]

Is Vela on will?

[solar junco]

yes

[sturdy yoke]

Yea so this wasn’t how you do this

The dumb 3x cleanser passive shit is had

*bad

You need to actually be able to kill

[peak anchor]

So wait how did 4R go?

If everything is on Will you should basically never be stunned after T1

Because you have so much immunity and cleansing.

[sturdy yoke]

I’m kinda surprised you didn’t just run xing here

[peak anchor]

Are vela and ayaya both skilled?

[crystal lake]

also what happens if feng gets blown up turn 1

[solar junco]

i lose

[solar junco]

yes

[solar junco]

fair enough, i just wanted tot ry beacuse i've heard a lot of good htings baout juno. i just don't know what the +2 is really, or if she's even good into kiki with all her heal blocks

oh xing sounds very good into mimirr cichlid actually

or at least, mimir cichlid vritra

u don't get blown up as fast

[solar junco]

[crystal lake]

[solar junco]

Nothing to post. Last siege I only got 4 hits in which frustrated me, considering I was sitting around staring at the map for longer than I’d like to admit. We won the siege anyways bc of macro or whatever but this time I just sent a bunch of stupid quick hits on open at work and got punished.

Then I got punished for forgetting destroy on vigor for kunite tetra vigor into the ashour brita Tara. Vigor also is definitely not right.

Fixed it to go 7-3 but siege kind of sucked.

[quick narwhal]

[tulip inlet]

show the losses

for ashour brita tara, manon is probably best

you know I love suiki and I have yet to lose with it

[quick narwhal]

Mr.Lfox I know for have the 5 stars for that team why we using vigor

[solar junco]

I have miles but I already used him in a different loss

Idk the other ones

For 5*

I know simi liked suiki

I kinda wanna try Ryan

[tulip inlet]

the 4* that gets oneshot by taranys?

the reason manon/suiki/miles are good is because they can also survive taranys

[crystal lake]

glad this trash def died

[tulip inlet]

BORGNINE

but literally any bruiser that can survive taranys + procs works

(and that is able to actually kill taranys)

the def is just shit...

[quick narwhal]

I tried him ngl, doesnt work as well cause brita def break

[tulip inlet]

I never tried borgnine

I just poke brita a bit with tetra to figure out if shes rev

if she is just kill tara before brita

[crystal lake]

just cleave dat shit

[quick narwhal]

like this?

[sturdy yoke]

Holy

[merry parcel]

Scuti leaking tech

[plucky turtle]

this team is in beginner guides

jx tech

[quick narwhal]

I thunk very hard about it