Need help purging runes | Summoners War | Page 1

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I have too many runes

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:48 AM

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post runes

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:48 AM

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?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:48 AM

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?

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Why do I need to post runes?

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I just need some general guidelines to purge a bunch

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:48 AM

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there's no general rule

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like mentioned

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you don't generally farm runes and keep unless you know what kind of stats the monsters need and then you find those runes that have the stats the monsters want

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if you are keeping too many runes, chances are you are not sure how good they are or you don't have something to compare with or you don't know what stats have synergy because you don't have monsters that might use them

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:50 AM

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So, you're supposed to know what you want to farm before you start farming?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:51 AM

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well yeah, kind of

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you do keep runes that have uses outside what you normally deign to farm for

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but 99% of the time you're farming a dungeon you farm what you are looking for

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though if you're doing #guides you should be farming giant only

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:51 AM

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I just set the team to auto as much as possible as soon as I got them working

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:52 AM

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ok, that doesn't mean you can't still improve the teams' stats

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with better rune efficiency or sets etc

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:52 AM

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I've been locking to sets as is

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Sets that gave stats

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:53 AM

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don't let sets define the rune, and more specifically don't force sets on your monsters unless they have stats the monster want

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even on a bad set, if the rune rolls well then it's useable as broken

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this is still covered in introduction to rune and the second section btw too

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:54 AM

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I mean, I think I've been doing that

hoary perchBOT Jan 19, 2025, 1:54 AM

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jx9

[Message Link](#1166120830921621504 message) to #1166120830921621504

Rune check

I'm going to do a quick pause to show you the stats on all my monsters at this point (working on SSS all rifts) so you can see real examples: https://ibb.co/album/K6DVdk. Not everything is runed up to standards as this is a very "in progress" snapshot. For example some damage dealers are missing some CR, others are not tanky enough. Don't use these examples as "stat requirements" to aim for as in if you hit them then your teams will work, but rather use them as guidelines to see if you're moving in the right direction in terms of how you're runing your monsters.

Understanding runes, how to rune monsters and what runes to keep, is the strategy behind this entire game. It's not something you can learn once and know how to do it like riding a bike. It's more like practicing an instrument or playing a sport where you continually gain experience and knowledge. There are a lot of guides out there but it's not really possible for any guide to teach you everything. The best way to get better at runes is simply to keep playing the game, see what runes other players use and keep, and ask specific questions. In particular, check out the #1084154772493447258 thread in #1047269577614164098 .

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:54 AM

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this one

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:55 AM

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So, do you expect me to screen shot all 1497 runes one at a time and post them here? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking if, that's what I'm supposed to do

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:56 AM

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no

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just post a few runes specific to help you get on the right path/give you some general ideas of what kind of runes to keep/not keep

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:56 AM

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Which ones?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:56 AM

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if you post a rune, and it's good/bad, then you know what kind of standard you have to compare with your other runes similar to the rune you posted

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:57 AM

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tame laurel Which ones?

the funny thing is probably 90% of the runes you have are bad/autosell and you're not even giving me real examples on what to keep

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:57 AM

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I don't know which is which, you haven't given me examples on what to look out for

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I.e., speed subs, cr subs, both?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 1:58 AM

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there is no general rule, we have told you that many times
the stats that your monsters want

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:58 AM

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I'm really starting to hate number one

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 1:58 AM

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Post what you feel is a strong set of runes…your best runed toon

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 1:59 AM

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Well you could've lead with that

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tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:04 AM

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if this is your best runed it's not great, he's used in pcah as a dark tank and he doesn't meet most of the requirements. but what's more worrisome is that some of those runes are not good

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runes with proper stats would be better than forcing sets on him

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res is kinda a dead stat in pve, so most of them should be gemmed out or autosold

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Well, I thought he was good, has 100% cr through substats

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:05 AM

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yes that's good

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but you're still not meeting ehp or speed requirements

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or even acc

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Tbf, o didn't even pay attention to pcah

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:06 AM

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?pcah states he needs 135k ehp, 100% cr, 200 combat speed

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:06 AM

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I'm still just looking at the Rune dungeons and ToA

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:06 AM

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You have the GBAH team?

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:06 AM

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The second stage one

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It's still pretty shoddy, trying to rerune Spectra

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:07 AM

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yeah you are skipping too much far ahead and building monsters for content you are not ready to do yet

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:07 AM

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Ok, what stats does Spectra need to be effective?

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:07 AM

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Apparently, HP, cr, and cd

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:08 AM

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this is why i asked you for a bunch of runes, rolled runes at least, to see what kind of idea/concept you have in what kind of runes you are keeping and not selling for some reason

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like you could give him a cdmg slot 4 energy rune that have hp/cr and it would be way better than this one on eirgar

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help you follow some thought process

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:10 AM

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Tbf, I did not think this inquiry would take this long

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Thought it would be a simple "purge X" and go

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:11 AM

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this game is about runes

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:11 AM

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tame laurel Apparently, HP, cr, and cd

So, any rune you have that is worse than the runes you have on Spectra…you can sell

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:11 AM

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it's like learning a hobby/skill

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:11 AM

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Start there

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Iyou have to compare them yourself, we can’t play your account for you. This game isn’t about good and bad runes, but it’s all a comparison to the runes you already have and if the new one that dropped from the boss is better or worse

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:13 AM

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I'm not even certain Spectra's runes are that "good" tbf

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:14 AM

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build him anyway with goal to meet 100% cr and ehp and speed reqs

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if you can't, just do your best

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and when you're done, you suddenly have a standard to compare on your spectra with the runes you have from your inventory

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:15 AM

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Well, he's certainly got the cr, but I had to use a cr 4

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:15 AM

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no don't use cr4

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he's too fast

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:15 AM

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What do you mean too fast?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:16 AM

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for reference

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oh it's not mentioned, but he only needs like 200 cmb speed ish

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you have 15% speed from your summoner skills

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that puts him at 145 speed

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you only need 55 speed ish to finish

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you can halve your speed and give him more hp/def/cd

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he also needs 45% acc

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and again you don't need to force sets on him. if you can get those stats met with broken runes then that's fine

charred oyster Jan 19, 2025, 2:19 AM

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Read this and use the advice to try to rune spectra again: https://discord.com/channels/109904961969586176/1274995809447968770

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:20 AM

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So what you're saying is I should take off the swift set?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:21 AM

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swift is just stats like any other set

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you can try what sokkermax said and see if that helps you

charred oyster Jan 19, 2025, 2:24 AM

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You learn runes in this game by trying to rune a bunch of different monsters. So you realize “oh shit all my DDs need runes with rolls into crit rate, I should prioritize runes with rolls into crit rate.” Or “none of my supports are tanky enough. I need to keep more runes with high rolls into hp/def.” Now you know what to look for when you farm new runes and when you go through your box of existing runes to decide what to keep or sell

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Not sure how this helps me

charred oyster Jan 19, 2025, 2:27 AM

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Then im not sure anyone here can help you

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:30 AM

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I mean, what's a DD?

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:30 AM

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Damage dealer

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:31 AM

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Oh, you mean a DPS

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:32 AM

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No dps in a turn based strategy game…

rancid abyss Jan 19, 2025, 2:32 AM

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damage per second
damage dealer

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:32 AM

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Eh, tomato tomato

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Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but my main takeaways are this: purge resistance in slot 6, and get a lot of Blade runes to make cr subs less of a pain

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 2:37 AM

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You’re wrong, but at this point it doesn’t seem like this game is for you if that’s your takeaways

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:39 AM

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Well I'm trying to get the right takeaways

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My Gbah team is mostly functional

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I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to be farming for

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:41 AM

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work on #guides in order, that'll tell you what monsters to build and that will give you an idea of what runes to farm

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:43 AM

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I mean, I tried, and when I asked what the next step was, I was just told to reread it again without being told what the next step was

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I have a functional Gbah team, and my toah is working,nif slowly

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And I just have the Gbah team run in the background while progressing through toah

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:44 AM

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well yeah the guides are not just one time reading

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they're supposed to be something you read from time to time when you're not sure about soemthing

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and asking specific questions about the guide

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:45 AM

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tame laurel And I just have the Gbah team run in the background while progressing through to...

you said you were working on step 2 of GBAH right? work on that

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the guide is in order after that

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:45 AM

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I'm supposed to make the final team before making my Dbah team?

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Well, guess Spectra was prepped beforehand

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And I won't have to worry about Loren and Fire Inu for a while

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 2:46 AM

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No

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Work on Gbah step 2

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then ToA hard and SFAH at the same time

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then go in that order

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you do not farm dragons at all while you're still working on pve

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 2:47 AM

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That being said, I think Loren is probably the most complete mon I have

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I don't need to mess with Loren anymore, right?

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And, question, how many of those guide suggestions are running under the assumption everything has max skills?

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:06 AM

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charred oyster You learn runes in this game by trying to rune a bunch of different monsters. So...

Could you explain that?

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 3:08 AM

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It’s a bad question, mons are never done. They either work for the content or they don’t. If they don’t, you improve them until they do and are achieving the speed of runs that are either listed in the beginner guides or that you are satisfied with. It has much less to do with a single unit and more to do with the team they are a part of

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:09 AM

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I'm, so confused...

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Does Loren "work" for the content she's required in?

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Does she fit the suggested parameters?

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And the worst part, I still don't know what runes to sell

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 3:20 AM

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tame laurel Does she fit the suggested parameters?

For what team?

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:21 AM

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Yes

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I assume the build for Toah and Dbah is the same

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If it isn't, I'll need a second Loren

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And this would be for Toah

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Since, apparently, I should not be touching Dbah until I'm old enough to retire

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 3:23 AM

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So, go to bot commands and put in the command for toah and see if the stats match

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:23 AM

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Sigh...later, I still don't know what runes to sell

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And no one is willing to diverge from the "no general rule" rule for even a moment, even though a general purge is what I really need right now

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:27 AM

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summer chasm So, go to bot commands and put in the command for toah and see if the stats matc...

So please, give me a general rule, a single, quality I need to purge

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Because my decision paralysis and poor judgement of quality is preventing me from progressing

summer chasm Jan 19, 2025, 3:29 AM

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Game isn’t for you bud. I got my own account and runes to manage. Good luck

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:30 AM

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...

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Sure it's the game and not the community?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 3:36 AM

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i asked you to post your runes multiple times and you didn't give me anything to work with, and you don't seem to be taking other people's advice and putting effort in yourself and actually reading stuff via our guides we linked

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but yeah, sure, it's the community

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check the official discord, im sure they can help you more than we can discord.gg/swofficial

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:39 AM

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tired berry i asked you to post your runes multiple times and you didn't give me anything to...

I'm just, tired, and frustrated, and feel like no one wants to help me

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And with no one giving concise yes or no answers, it just reinforces that

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 3:40 AM

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no you just want questions answered in your own way where you don't have to put in effort

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:41 AM

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I just don't get it, I see plenty of yes or no answers to other people in the main thread about runes

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But, I'm the one out through the ringer...

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 3:41 AM

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that's because they ask specific questions or post runes to ask about it

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you didn't do any of that, you just keep saying you don't understand

tame laurel Jan 19, 2025, 3:41 AM

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I did ask a specific question

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Is it not specific?

tired berry Jan 19, 2025, 3:42 AM

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i'm locking this thread

#Need help purging runes

Rune check