Returning player what to focus on? | Summoners War | Page 1

valid furnace Dec 22, 2024, 11:47 PM

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Used to have tricaru and all meta teams for B12s. Have solo r5. Had all b12 including PC and SF. Toa normal and hard auto teams.

But now I cant us my old teams for the new B12. Because it doesnt allow dupes. What kind of speed teams are out there? What should I focus on farming? (Still NB12 / DB12for runes? Or did this change). Is there anything specifically I should focus my dimensional energy on now. i have a good amount of the 2as made.

Included pics of my monster box in case that helps.

If people have a general plan to get back into the game and update me on what I should be doing that would be perfect!

wild tree Dec 22, 2024, 11:48 PM

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start at team 2 of ?gbah and proceed from there in #guides

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only difference between and a new player is going to be, you'll probably progress through faster

valid furnace Dec 22, 2024, 11:52 PM

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Alright thanks. So thats starting at farming GBAH right now? Everything else will come after getting that team set up properly?

wild tree Dec 22, 2024, 11:54 PM

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your main source of runes during pve is going ot be gbah, no real need to farm nbah and dbah till pve is done

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yes

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Is it hard to get the kylegbah team running? It feels like I can hit those targets. I have pretty decent rune quality (for pve standards). Woudl you still suggest starting on the safer teams?

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:06 AM

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would hold off on spd teams till everything else in #guides is done

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though if u want u can proceed all the way to team 5 of ?gbah if u can manage (in order of upgrades)

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:06 AM

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Kay will get started on this tomorrow. Thanks for the help. If i run into issues i might ask some more

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Alright I think that should be doable. Will check swop if i can reach that

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:07 AM

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guess if u have a water/wind homie already (i see dark so i assume u have enough rift crystals to make if u dont) ?whomie

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Yes I had sss teams for all rifts

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i have plenty of crystals

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:08 AM

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nvm i see water, so easy to turn to wind

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Have 2a spectra too

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Saw him mentioned in some teams

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Yeah so water is not used anymore?

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:09 AM

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ya should just be meeting rune requirements then

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:09 AM

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I think he was in my toa/h team

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:09 AM

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water really never needed to start with

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 12:09 AM

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Alright ill swap him over asap

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See hes in the speed teams too

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So no point keeping him water

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 12:10 AM

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ya

valid furnace Dec 23, 2024, 4:48 PM

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wild tree ya

Okay so I am currently runing the last GBAH team before speed teams. (Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > Wind Homie > 2aKro). I can easily reach the stats they ask for so should be fine i think. After that i will just follow beginner guide further I guess?

wild tree Dec 23, 2024, 4:48 PM

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yes

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you'll just reclear things quicker

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:42 PM

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?toa

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:42 PM

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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE

Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta ?akroma ?ragleo

First ToaN (normal) team will consists of the ?justdoit team which is Veromos, Fran, Shannon, Loren and Lapis
ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Vero, Mav (wind penguin), Fran and 2 of these units below depending on floor
2aSpectra, Melia, Loren
[Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc
See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements
[Fran] - Violent-Swift/Any SPD/DEF/HP, Def Artifacts, 200 SPD
See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements
[Mellia] - Despair-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆, faster than mav
[2aSpectra] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/HP, 100% CR, HP/DEF artifacts, 45% acc, 120K+ EHP
[Loren] - Swift/Any, SPD/DEF/HP, HP/Def Artifacts, 45% acc, 200 SPD
[Veromos and Shannon] are runed as they are for ?gbah

Additional Info

If you are not sure of what a monster does, don't be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do. This is the time you learn what monsters do.
Will start to be able to auto more floors as your monster runes improve otherwise manual the floors
Mellia is the only monster who doesnt need skill ups, the others see ?qstart and ?devilmon .
Use in Anti-Crit stages (Jultan/Kumae and Art)
Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages.
45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does.

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:42 PM

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?sfah

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:42 PM

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Steel Fortress Abyss (Hard)

Teams and Turn Order:

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

After PVE Teams

Ling ling > Lushen (L) > Loren > Fran > Brandia/2aKro (45-50 seconds)
Ling ling > Lushen > Loren > Eirgar (L) > Brandia (35-40 seconds)

Requirements:
Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Fran: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd
Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 239+ cmb spd, 45% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
2aKro/Brandia: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Lushen: ATT/CD/ATT, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, Must 1 shot waves without attack buff
Other Info:
Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above
Artifacts used depends on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)
Ling should be on some sort of dmg build, CD is ideal while CR works as well
For team 1, Ling ling can move 3rd if still used in rift beasts and sr5 to give her more dmg
For team 3, Loren can be slower than Eirgar if it fit with your other teams

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?riftbeasts

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?riftstats
?rift-fire
?rift-water
?rift-wind
?rift-light
?rift-dark

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?sr5

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Solo Raid 5 (SR5)

First Solo Raid 5 Team: follow infograph at the bottom of this command and read the guide found in the Beginner Playthrough in #1048681073502068917 . The SR5 part starts here: ⁠#1166120830921621504 message
If you need help with filling in your team, you can post in #1047269577614164098 with a screenshot of what YOU think your team will look like, before we will help make corrections to it.

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valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?pcah

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Punisher's Crypt Abyss (Hard)

Teams and Turn Order: do not skip straight to team 2

Eirgar/Colleen > Bella/2aIcaru > 2aRaoq > 2aKro > Verde (L) (1:20-2:00)
Eirgar (L) > 2aIcaru > 2aRaoq > Pang/Fuco > Verde (0:45-1:00)

Requirements:
Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Belladeon: SPD/HP/HP, 100k EHP, 195 cmb spd, 35% acc
Colleen: See ?sr5
2aIcaru: 3301 total def, 169 cmb spd, 35% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 120k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Pang/Fuco: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 130k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
Verde: ATT/CD/ATT, 90k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR
Other Info:
Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above
Artifacts used depend on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)
A Belladeon that has been 2nd awakened will NOT work in this dungeon
Dark type monsters should have at least "15 minus dmg from Light" artifact substat
Team 1 Boss Target Order is L > R > Boss
Team 2 is straight boss

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?srbah

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Spiritual Realm Abyss (Hard)

Team and Turn Order:

Sieq > Carcano/Shaina > 2aRaoq > +1 > Verde (35-40sec)

Requirements:
Sieq: SPD/(CR-CD)/HP, 100k EHP, 100% CR
Shaina: (SPD-ATT)/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 10% acc
Carcano: (SPD-ATT)/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 35% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 120k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Verde: ATT/CD/ATT, 90k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR
Boss Condition:
The boss decreases all monsters CR by half at the start of wave 4
Stores one charge every time boss/crystals receive a non-critical hit and when boss/crystals deal a critical hit ( Up to 9 charges can be stored) and does more damage from Magic Power Barrage Passive
Sieq's skill 3 gives 30% from CR buff and 10% from the 2 buffs (5% CR for each buff)
Elemental advantage gives 15% CR for fire monsters against wind
A shield set gives another 5% CR for the first 2 turns
Other Info:
All monsters must be 100% CR
Combat speed for this dungeon is 177, and most monsters will be faster than that with verde's lead for other areas, except astar, so just need tune them for their turn order above
The plus one can be astar (moves after verde) or another fire nuker and would move before verde
Shaina has built in acc (25% from passive) so only needs 10% from runes
Shaina speeds this dungeon up considerable compared to carcano
Overall the dungeon isnt that difficult

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Necro Abyss Hard

Best team: Abigail(L) > 2aIcaru > 2aRaoq > Astar > 2aShamann (average 1 minute)
Other teams: Just a examples
Fran + 2aIcaru + 2aRaoq + 2 damage dealers
Conditions
Boss focus: Midboss, Imprisoned Soul > Boss
Nbah boss takes the monster with the highest attack at the start of the fight and applies a 3 hit shield
Combat Speed is caped and Attack Bar Manipulation skills do NOT work at the boss wave
Requirements
Supports: (Fran/2aIcaru) 100K+ EHP, 35% acc faster than 169 cmb spd
Damage Dealers:100k EHP, damage dealers 100% CR, faster than 169 cmb spd, 35% acc if they have debuffs (slow, att/def break)
Vio is ideal but not needed, Ideal mon to try to get on Vio are Fran and Abigail first
Astar does NOT need vamp
Astar and 2aShamann dont have a min cmb spd requirement
2aIcaru needs 3301 def to bring 3 monsters for team up and 35 acc
Yes, you can awaken your Abigail
Commonly used monsters: from best to worst
Premium monsters: Abigail > Scarlett (unawakened), Astar
F2p monsters: 2aShamann, Xiao Lin/Lingling
Make sure to go to the NBAH section in the Beginner Playthrough located in #1048681073502068917 before asking for help in #1047269577614164098

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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?dbah

pearl lionBOT Dec 24, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Dragons Abyss (Hard)

Teams, Turn Order, and Average Time

Loren/2aSpectra > Vero > 2aRaoq > Verde (L) 1:00 to 2:00

Speed Team: can be made after pve is finished.

?kyledbah

Requirements
Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 65% acc
2aSpectra: SPD/CD/HP, 120k EHP, 180+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 45% acc
Vero: SPD/CD/HP, 120k EHP, 180 cmb spd, 100% CR, 45% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 120k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35%+ acc
Verde: ATT/CD/ATT, 90k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, rest into dmg
Other info
Yes this is a very easy dungeon overall, but the runes that come from here are not needed till the end of progression.
Loren need 65% acc as the dragons resistance is 80.
Verde is the only one to factor his leader skill into his combat speed.
EHP are just estimates, as they can change with more/less dmg.

wild tree Dec 24, 2024, 11:44 PM

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plz keep #bot-commands in #bot-commands

valid furnace Dec 24, 2024, 11:46 PM

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oh sorry, my bad. I was trying to gather them in one place. Didnt realize this was not allowed

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I lose my messages quickly in the bot commands channel 😅

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There is no full guide anywhere in text so I dont have to keep spamming commands right?

wild tree Dec 24, 2024, 11:47 PM

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no but are free to spam #bot-commands , if it scroll past the command yr readiin just have to scroll up a little

valid furnace Dec 25, 2024, 12:00 AM

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wild tree no but are free to spam <#252935292074328064> , if it scroll past the command yr...

Is this guide still up to date? It looks quite similar (maybe this is what the commande are based on?)

#1166120830921621504 message

Here i can just have all messages in one clear channel together so if its up to date I will focus on that

pearl lionBOT Dec 25, 2024, 12:00 AM

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jx9

[Message Link](#1166120830921621504 message) to #1166120830921621504
Here we go again. This is a guide detailing an efficient path for progressing through all of PvE for a new Summoners War player in 2024 (well... close to 2024 at least).

Feel free to ask questions by starting a thread in #1047269577614164098 and tagging me @mild prism. Don't let the forum-styled format of the channel scare you, it's just an easy way for us to keep track of multiple conversations at once, and to be able to search for and share older discussions. You can spam it as much as you want just like a regular chat.

There are full image albums of all my monsters taken once about halfway through progression at the end of Part 3, and once again at the end of progression at the end of Part 4. Don't miss them.

I've added a summary and outline of this entire guide for your reference:
https://ibb.co/Fs3gKFH
https://ibb.co/6N3C2BW
https://ibb.co/S7ZSjC2
https://ibb.co/4JKsZ0n

wild tree Dec 25, 2024, 12:00 AM

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the playthrough is the base of #guides , yes

valid furnace Dec 25, 2024, 12:01 AM

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Perfect. Thanks!

wild tree Dec 25, 2024, 12:01 AM

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though it isnt updated

valid furnace Dec 25, 2024, 12:01 AM

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Okay so i will double check with the commands then

valid furnace Jan 1, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Okay so I've basically gone through all of the beginner guide now. (Except for NBAH and DBAH, but I heard people say most people farm GBAH anyways so I didnt feel like making those teams)

Now that the cairos balance patch is out, do you think those teams will change at all, and maybe farming necro/dragons more could be good?

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Im currently using a ~1 min avg basically 100% Giants team if that matters at all

cloud stream Jan 1, 2025, 10:05 AM

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no the team hasnt changed, it might just be a bit easier.
I recommend you still farm a good chunk of giants before farming nbah and dbah, but you should still build up those teams when you can. You are getting into pvp soon, and you will also be doing a lot of dragons (and maybe necro) soon

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dragons gives violent runes, thats the most important rune set in the entire game

valid furnace Jan 1, 2025, 4:42 PM

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Yeah i have been playing for a long time, I just returned recently, which is why i had to rebuild all teams

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i have 3.3k days account age. I have a good chunk of violent runes, just not enough obvioulsy (I think no one has enough)

cloud stream Jan 1, 2025, 4:50 PM

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when you get all teams running, you can start getting (back) into pvp by reading #1048719420870107227

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and see what you can do with current runes, most likely you wont be far ahead of someone who is newer to the game tho

valid furnace Jan 3, 2025, 8:19 PM

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for this ?kyledbah

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is there perhaps any video or guide that goes a bit more in depth on what stats are required on the units?

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I feel like just hitting the spd and accuracy isnt gonna be enough and I dont want to waste a FRR coupon

cloud stream Jan 3, 2025, 8:23 PM

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other than the spd and acc reqs you just stack as much dmg as you can

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theres no exact stats to aim for as everyones runes are different

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more damage will be faster, less damage could fail/be slower

valid furnace Jan 3, 2025, 8:39 PM

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hmm okay i will just farm some artifacts for a while and then use the optimizer to find the highest damage build for kyle and twins

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 2:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3_W7D92wU&ab_channel=Killeran

Would a team like this make sense now instead of the overly safe team thats in the ?nbah guide?

Since the boss no longer steals on turn 1 I feel like teams like this are much faster and honestly just as safe (it doesnt even come close to failing, even though i know he has high rune quality, if julie does a bit less damage shaina will still clean up most waves)

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and julie can be used in multiple dungeons for fast teams so it might be more efficient to rune her well

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just like shaina is also used in SR

errant helm Jan 5, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Try it out and see how it goes

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You’ll need shield sets to survive the reflect damage

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Julie should absolutely be runed well - she’s a staple siege offense mon and can be used in multiple dungeons. Doesn’t mean building her well will be enough

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:10 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/qHHqkET.png

Who do i go for?

Primarily looking for pve speed teams or perhaps toa hell units? If no good pve units are in there I guess I should go for a good pvp one

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(5 star collection in case that helps)

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:22 PM

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you dont pick something for pve.
helena is great for siege since you have Leo

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Sagar good for rta

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depends on what you like more

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:23 PM

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definitely siege/gw/arena first before rta

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i think rta requires a bit more skill (which i dont have yet)

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So helena then?

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:24 PM

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then Helena would be great

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:24 PM

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perfect thanks!

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I have her dark sister btw

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What kind of rune setup would you suggest on that?

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and is she even any good

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:25 PM

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im assuming you are done with all the content in #guides ?

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then its time to check out #1048719420870107227

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Yes i am now. Just been back for like a few weeks

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:25 PM

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you should understand that we dont build random monsters

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you build specific teams

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Helena is a part of a good premium siege offense: Jeanne Leo Helena

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Okay I will have a look later. For now i was still making my teams a bit faster, because farming runes is taking forever right now with the beginner teams that take well over a min per run

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:26 PM

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cloud stream Helena is a part of a good premium siege offense: Jeanne Leo Helena

And these kind of premium offenses are listed in the guide or do i have to know these?

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https://swgt.io/

I was looking at inspiration here but I think this is mainly to copy defenses no?

SWGT: Summoners War Game Tools

A mobile first platform to make managing your guild easier in Summoners War.

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:30 PM

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no they are not listed there. You should start with building the 'starter' offenses/defenses listed in #1048719420870107227 to get a better understanding of pvp content (mostly siege that is somewhat harder to learn)

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Okay I will start with that and wont bother you with more questions before I've read it lmao. I might need some help later after I'm done with that guide though. Thanks a lot!

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:30 PM

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the thing about jeanne leo helena is that jeanne and helena both need to be skilled up and im pretty sure it needs somewhat good runes to work (someone can correct me on this)

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:31 PM

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valid furnace Okay I will start with that and wont bother you with more questions before I've ...

yes a lot of questions will be answered if you give it a thorough read

valid furnace Jan 5, 2025, 6:31 PM

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My jeanne is skilled up and i have ~20 devilmons left over so I can fully skillup her

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thanks again

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 6:31 PM

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pepefingerguns

vestal crest Jan 5, 2025, 9:49 PM

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cloud stream the thing about jeanne leo helena is that jeanne and helena both need to be skil...

Doesn't need good runes. I have pretty bad runes and still run it fine. Helena must be skilled though. And Jeanne and Helena must both be Vio/Will. Leo double will.

cloud stream Jan 5, 2025, 9:49 PM

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vestal crest Doesn't need good runes. I have pretty bad runes and still run it fine. Helena m...

leak builds in my thread WhateverYouSay

valid furnace Jan 7, 2025, 1:54 PM

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Okay so i actually got it working. It's not as hard as it looks. If your julie hits hard enough for GBAH crystal oneshot you are already very close

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need another shield set though to make it safer. Sometimes julie gets pulled in by icaru and then she is too low to use s3. Sometimes team fails when that happens

valid furnace Jan 11, 2025, 5:37 PM

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What should we use the guaranteed rune drop things on?

For giants I was thinking either swift or despair
For Dragons I was thinking Vio
For Necro I was thinking Rage (I still need some rage sets as I havent farmed necro all that much, but maybe will is an option too?)

fathom wharf Jan 11, 2025, 5:40 PM

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you should farm according to your needs, depending on where you are in the game

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giant would be likely swift, necro would depends on what you need for pvp

valid furnace Jan 11, 2025, 5:45 PM

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fathom wharf giant would be likely swift, necro would depends on what you need for pvp

Alright thanks. Will go for swift in giants and look where I lack rune depth for necro

valid furnace Jan 15, 2025, 7:40 AM

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Is there any step up from the ?kyledbah team? Its by far my slowest team. (everything else is around 30 seconds, dragons is more like 45-50 fastest time)

Is this normal or is there a faster team for dbah? (I dont have liam)

mild prism Jan 15, 2025, 7:41 AM

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not without liam or lds

valid furnace Jan 15, 2025, 7:47 AM

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ld5? I do have deborah, not sure if that helps?

mild prism Jan 15, 2025, 3:26 PM

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nope

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:14 PM

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"Fat Lushen: Psamathe, Kabilla, Kona/Teon, Lushen
Used against squishy speed ADs such as Psama Triton Sav Kaki.
If no Psama, use Gin. If you're really poor, use Susano Orion/Wayne Kona.
If no Kabilla, use Eshir or Bernard.
Against slow tankier ADs, you can use attack lead such as Alicia and Mirinae/Miriam instead of Kabilla ."

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They say if no psama use gin. But what if i have a different arena spd lead like oliver? Can I use him instead or should the unit be more than just providing spd lead?

mild prism Jan 16, 2025, 8:17 PM

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read #1048719420870107227

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:21 PM

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I did. They mainly talk about stuff like orion susano and gin kabilla. But dont mention other nat 5 spd leaders as far as ive seen

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"1. Speed lead. This monster also needs to deal damage to clean up, so something like Oliver or Vanessa (who also have the 33 spd lead) is no where near as good as Psama because their damage output is much lower. If you don't have Psama, Shimitae or Susano are decent nat 4 alternatives."

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Are the nat 4 alternatives better than nat 5 spd lead?

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trading in like 10 ish spd for a better kit on your spd leader unit, is that worth it?

mild prism Jan 16, 2025, 8:25 PM

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i mean doesn't that directly answer your question?

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yes its worth lowering the spd lead to use a unit that actually does damage

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you have seara right? that's fine

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:28 PM

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mild prism you have seara right? that's fine

Ah so seara > Shimitae? I do have kabilla so im planning to use her instead of orion.

mild prism Jan 16, 2025, 8:28 PM

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yes

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best to have something that can cleanup fire units

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:29 PM

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mild prism yes

Perfect thanks. Yeah i guess it did answer it, but i just wanted to make 100% sure since it didnt literally say these 4 star options are preferred over other nat 5 spd leaders. Just that the other nat 5 spd leaders are worse than psama

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:29 PM

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mild prism best to have something that can cleanup fire units

seara can do that right? Because bombs will still land on fire? I'm not 100% sure how these glancing mechanics affect things like bombs to be honest

mild prism Jan 16, 2025, 8:30 PM

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correct

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Thanks for your help!

mild prism Jan 16, 2025, 8:30 PM

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if the skill doesn't do any dmg itself then it cant glance via elemental disadvantage

valid furnace Jan 16, 2025, 8:31 PM

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Yeah I've noticed that on galleon defense break too i think, since it doesnt damage the target it doesnt care about element

#Returning player what to focus on?