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idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:32 PM

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or maybe melia

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actually no

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too many debuffers

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vero mav fran 2Aspec and loren

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:33 PM

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yes

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only use mellia on anti-crit stages

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:33 PM

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whats an anti crit stage sorry

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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its a stage with monsters that have passives that counter crit

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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ahhh gotcha

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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youll notice when you get there

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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i need to learn my monsters skills

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im just blindly clicking and relying on the guides atm

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and not understanding each mons role

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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read them all

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and manual a bit of toah

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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yes sir

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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that will help

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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can i leave 2aspec skills

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not worth devilmon right

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 4:35 PM

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what does ?devilmon say

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:35 PM

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?devilmon

radiant smeltBOT Dec 4, 2024, 4:35 PM

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For New Players

Veromos > Spectra 2A > Vigor 2A > Raoq 2A
Galleon if used on your gbah team (S1 and s3)
Save the rest of your devilmon until #guides is finished and you are ready to start PvP

✥ Nat 5★ monsters are generally prioritized with devilmon. However, there are 4★ monsters which require skill-ups and are worth devilmoning ASAP (for example, galleon for 100% harmful effect rate on S3). For more information about this, check the 4* skillup part of #1048719420870107227 .

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 4:35 PM

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oh wow

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i do need to devilmon him

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okay

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whos vigo

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wolf guy right

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right back to toah and gbah

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thank you again mr simi

flat scarabBOT Dec 4, 2024, 5:13 PM

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152131 ehp. Deffbroken: 66538 ehp.

spiral hull Dec 4, 2024, 5:15 PM

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@idle bluff Please use the #bot-commands channel for all commands.

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Reserve this thread for when you have questions. Every time you use a command here it bumps the thread as though you have a question.

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:16 PM

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my bad

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@warped urchin gave my vero some love aswell with my new runes now i shred toah with spec thanks so much

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warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 5:23 PM

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looks squishy susge

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:26 PM

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i can never win 😦

warped urchin Dec 4, 2024, 5:27 PM

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just try it out

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if it works it works

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:28 PM

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oh man yeah thats 60k ehp

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more defense

spiral hull Dec 4, 2024, 5:28 PM

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idle bluff i can never win 😦

It is squishy for now, and it isn't super fast, but that will change with rune quality. You might also consider dropping some accuracy to get some more stats.

honest tangle Dec 4, 2024, 5:28 PM

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for toa it's good enough

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:28 PM

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honest tangle for toa it's good enough

what about toah

honest tangle Dec 4, 2024, 5:28 PM

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still same

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:29 PM

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sweet

idle bluff Dec 4, 2024, 5:29 PM

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spiral hull It is squishy for now, and it isn't super fast, but that will change with rune q...

yeah i farm GBAH every day on auto and leave my phone on at work

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:53 PM

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hey guys

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so what is ATB reduction

spiral hull Dec 5, 2024, 8:54 PM

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ATB reduction is where you remove their Attack bar. Basically, the amount of Attack bar they've gained will be reduced.

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Which means that for example, if you have a monster that is against a Vero, Fran, and Spectra, theoretically it cannot ever take a turn as long as the Vero, Fran, and Spectra have high enough accuracy.

radiant smeltBOT Dec 5, 2024, 8:55 PM

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diliskar

[Message Link](#1048719420870107227 message) to #1048719420870107227
How Attack Bar works in Summoners War

Before venturing further into more PvP teams, I'd like to spend some time to go over the attack bar mechanic in this game. Knowing how ATB (attack bar) works will help you understand other things such as speed tuning, atb ticks, and why sometimes things get cut and other times they don't.

This is the original guide/thread/explanation on ATB. I suggest you read it. https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/6echhx/indepth_guide_speedtuning_your_arena_team_revived/

To summarize, the core concept to understand is this:

Every monster on the field increases their attack bar every "tick," according to how much speed they have. The more speed the monster has, the more attack bar they get every tick. When a monster on the field reaches 100% ATB, then a monster gets a turn to make their move. This is pretty obvious. The not obvious part is that attack bar values are stored and calculated even past 100% (known as ATB overflow). There can be multiple monsters on the field with over 100% ATB at a time, but only the monster with the highest ATB gets to move. Only 1 monster can move per tick - the ATB of the monster that moves resets to 0, but all other monsters, on both sides of the field and including the monster that just moved - will still gain the regular ATB amount per tick.

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:55 PM

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i know its in beginner pvp

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but this could help

spiral hull Dec 5, 2024, 8:55 PM

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So one of the reasons you need Vero, Spectra and Fran all on 40% accuracy is because they have Attack Bar reduction abilities.

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As long as they land those ATB reductions, the enemy monsters cannot take turns.

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:56 PM

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so for spectra its his s3

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fran its her s1 iirc?

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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yes

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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yes

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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and then vero is also s1?

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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loren all skils

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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s2

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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vero skill2

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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ah his multi attack

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thing

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yeah

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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Vero s2 either stuns or pushes back

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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reread all skills of your toah monster while manualing it

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:57 PM

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listen simi i know they're abilities

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and i know they get rid of the attack bar

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but like

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they keep going immune

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with this forcefield thing

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and then they 2 hit me

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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on third wave?

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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u were right about my vero being squishy

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ya

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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what's toah 89 this rotation)

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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theres no immunity there

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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only invincibility

honest tangle Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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all your units are built bruisers so they're supposed to be able to take a few hits. there are some monsters you can't CC

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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ah sorry

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invincibility is what i meant

honest tangle Dec 5, 2024, 8:58 PM

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your loren has cleanse

spiral hull Dec 5, 2024, 8:59 PM

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honest tangle your loren has cleanse

*strip

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 8:59 PM

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if you have issues with a specific wave the first step is to read the skills of the enemies youre having issues with

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(assuming your runes check out ofc)

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:00 PM

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okay that loren tip helped

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simi i lied

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i may have missed that bit

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i shall reread all my monsters

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:00 PM

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Gladge

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:01 PM

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another quick question

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the instaneous damage debuff

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that vero applies

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when does that actually come into affect?

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that also seems random

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sometimes it stacks for like 8 turns

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and never happens

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or are there passives that prevent them from taking damage from it

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on certain monsters

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 9:02 PM

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it deals 5% of max hp when they take a turn

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:02 PM

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its not consistent though

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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so if they dont move they won't get damaged

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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you can read what every effect does

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there

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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thanks simi

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sorry for all the spoon feeding

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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dont think this is mentioned anywhere

jovial light Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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thas what this channel is for rioUp

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:03 PM

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so no worries

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:05 PM

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yeah that loren tip helped out a bunch

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to be honest im not sure if i may have missed it but i didnt see a full on team explanation and a breakdown of how they should be played

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just rather the stats and like a one liner

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im not sure if thats asking too much but for atleast someone whos maybe a week in like me it would have helped alot

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:07 PM

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figuring out how to do that yourself will help a lot in understanding game mechanics

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:07 PM

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yeah true, i guess there's only so much that can be written down

spiral hull Dec 5, 2024, 9:07 PM

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ToA is where you learn what monsters do. Take time to read through monster abilities, both the enemies and your own. Once you start learning what monsters do, then you can use your ToA team much more effectively.

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The reason the current ToA team is recommended is because it covers 99% of the bases for ToA.

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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yeah absolutely

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thanks guys good advice

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time for floors 90-100

warped urchin Dec 5, 2024, 9:09 PM

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good luck

idle bluff Dec 5, 2024, 9:09 PM

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simi i will report back soon

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rascal's help

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 12:31 AM

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warped urchin good luck

floor 99 is so tough

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 12:40 AM

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leo?

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 12:42 AM

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yeah man

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the verdes are the problem

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 12:43 AM

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focus on keeping them from moving with loren

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 12:43 AM

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ive just had really bad RNG

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their attack bar goes up

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instantly

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 12:44 AM

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I had no issues with that on my newer account a few weeks ago

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i used jeanne

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but the normal toa team should also have no issues if you play it right

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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i see alot of other people complaining about it too

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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its an annoying floor

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if youre sure youre doing everything right you can try it out with jeanne over Fran I think

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and just always use s3 provoke and afterwards s2 on self

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and keep the verdes from moving

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with loren/spectra/veromos

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 12:53 AM

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nah yeah

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i give up with that team

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genuinely impossible

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i take them to like 20% attack bar

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and then they just instantly regen it

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im gonna try jeanne

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:13 AM

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warped urchin if youre sure youre doing everything right you can try it out with jeanne over F...

first tried it with jeanne

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thank you sir

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:14 AM

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Gladge

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for 100 back to the standard team

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its very easy

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:18 AM

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jeanne is so awesome

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thats a cool gimmick

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woooooooooooo

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:33 AM

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congrats

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:33 AM

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thank you very much simi

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its a good feeling

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i have bonded with my monsters

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?gbah

radiant smeltBOT Dec 6, 2024, 1:33 AM

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Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)

Team Upgrade Order, Turn order, and when to move to next team

?justdoit2 team
Darion > Shannon > Belladeon > Vero(L) > 2aKro
Shannon > Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro
Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > Wind Homie > 2aKro
Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > Wind Homie > 2aKro
See ?teshgbah or ?kylegbah for spd team

Upgrade Info For Above Teams:

Upgrade to Team 2: Vero and 2aKro
Fixing turn order and acc of supports
Vero: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 180 cmb spd, 120k+ EHP
2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd (can be lower early on), 100k+ ehp (can use a slot 2 or 6 HP% early on)
Returning Players start here, if you cant than start with ?justdoit
Upgrade to Team 3: Replace Darion for 2aSpectra
2aSpectra: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 120k+ EHP
Done before moving to ?toa
Upgrade to Team 4: Replace Shannon with Wind Homie
Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP
How to make ?whomie and can be added during Rift Beast step
Upgrade to Team 5: Replace Belladeon with Galleon
Galleon: Spd/(CR/CD)/HP, 100% CR, 35% acc, 120k EHP
Wants skill 1 and 3 maxed for best Defense Break Chance before adding
Upgrade to Team 6: You move to the speed teams mentioned near the top of command AFTER yr done with #guides guides.
What is EHP? See command: ?ehp
Accuracy of GBAH is 34%
EHP values are a rough estimate, being above is always better
The minimum requirements must be met first before adding more DMG
Upgrading to the next team depends on current step of #guides
Artifacts depend on what one needs, Att for more dmg or HP/DEF for more EHP

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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does this mean its wind homie time now

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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reminder #bot-commands

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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i figured cause i was still talking o toy

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to you

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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idle bluff does this mean its wind homie time now

no

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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it was ok

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no?

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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its fine ye

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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is this not the part where i max my GBAH team

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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you hold off on any giant team upgrades (you can still improve runes) for now

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wind homie is made after the rift dungeon step

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after/during

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:35 AM

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Steel Fortress Abyss Hard / SFAH, see ?sfah

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:35 AM

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so its time for ?sfah

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:35 AM

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where does it say that

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add

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ahh

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im blin

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blind

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nevermind

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cool SFAH time - thanks simi!

slate trench Dec 6, 2024, 1:42 AM

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idle bluff

Gz op

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:43 AM

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slate trench Gz op

thanks queen

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i’ll see you in rta in no time

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frfr

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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Eeeeh

slate trench Dec 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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cri

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ChillBar_leave

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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dont say the r word around scarlet

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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simi when do you think you’re RTA ready genuinely curious for how long progression would take

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sorry 😦

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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im not even siege ready

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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i don’t even know what siege is ngl is that the guild offline one

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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idle bluff simi when do you think you’re RTA ready genuinely curious for how long progressi...

you can play it whenever you want

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dont think youll get far tho without good runes

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as everyone nowadays has great runes

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:46 AM

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gonna be honest

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it took until 100f toah

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for me to realise this isn’t a turn based game

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lmao

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:46 AM

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step by step

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 1:46 AM

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and it’s just whoever has the atk bar and speed

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im so addicted though

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simi ur p2 rank

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is that the offline arena

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not RTA

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 1:47 AM

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yes

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doesnt say anything though

slate trench Dec 6, 2024, 2:06 AM

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RTA is basically impossible to be competitive in any way in for probably at least 6 months of progression with spending involved without insane sacking

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It's not really f2p friendly at all

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Requires good box, good runes, skilled up monsters (so devilmon gated) to name a few of the issues

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Whereas siege is very f2p accessible by comparison

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You can get started in siege within I dunno a month?

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Like it's not going to be competitive, same thing, but you can play g1 siege after a month and some change if you do things right

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:23 PM

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for my first sfah team, is it cool to use ling ling whilst she has no max skills? ive only got 1 of her unfortunately or is there a better alternative

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:23 PM

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she doesnt need skilups

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:23 PM

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awesome

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so if the guide doesnt say max skill up

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i dont need to?

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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you should max skillup every 3* unit

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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shes 4*

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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ling ling is endgame forever, there's no replacement for her

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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oh you were being a generalist

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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honest tangle ling ling is endgame forever, there's no replacement for her

ah really

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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you should eventually skill her up but it's not needed in pve

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yes

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:24 PM

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gotcha cool

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thank you guys

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Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc

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im assuming i only go HP-ATT if i cant hit the EHP?

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with SPD CR CD

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:25 PM

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it's tough to build her like that at first because of speed reqs

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:25 PM

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you can only have CR/CD on slot 4

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I think what I did is let her move third

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and use att/cd/hp

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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you'll just build her like a standard bruiser like veromos and move third

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yea

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with some atk

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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how come move third?

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vero's supposed to move third?

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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no

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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its in one of the points under the command

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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stats wise

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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ideally lingling moves first, but its not doable at your stage

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:26 PM

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For team 1, Ling ling can move 3rd if still used in rift beasts and sr5 to give her more dmg

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not even with my awesome new quad spd runes? 😦

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ill try and build it

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:27 PM

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so after fran and before raoq

honest tangle Dec 6, 2024, 4:27 PM

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if you can build her like that you can

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but you will have to find another DD later on when doing rifts/sr5 to replace her

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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honest tangle but you will have to find another DD later on when doing rifts/sr5 to replace he...

she not viable in rifts / sr5?

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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she is

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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or shes viable but needs atk

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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yes

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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got it

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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a dd needs damage to deal

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:29 PM

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ill go att cd hp first like simi suggested

warped urchin Dec 6, 2024, 4:29 PM

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that was a result of doing whatever to get the stats needed

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 4:29 PM

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ill play around then

idle bluff Dec 6, 2024, 5:32 PM

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dang you weren't kidding shes really hard to rune

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:33 AM

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hello

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:33 AM

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do you havee a question rascal

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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no questions from me thanks

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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....

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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JOLLU

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u missed the convo in general

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i am showing my runes

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for a build

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im sorry

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dont hurt me

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i have a family

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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this isnt a place for idle chat

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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im sorry sir.

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its not idle chat

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its serious runing

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simi

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are you ready

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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you can do it in #general-sw

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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wat

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i can?

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Get to rune posting bonky_Bonk

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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here we go guys...

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dont laugh please

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what do we think...

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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ew

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purple

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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WTF

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Try leveling your runes

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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oh

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one moment

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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It's not built according to requirements

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?sfah

radiant smeltBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Steel Fortress Abyss (Hard)

Teams and Turn Order:

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

After PVE Teams

Ling ling > Lushen (L) > Loren > Fran > Brandia/2aKro (45-50 seconds)
Ling ling > Lushen > Loren > Eirgar (L) > Brandia (35-40 seconds)

Requirements:
Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Fran: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd
Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 239+ cmb spd, 45% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
2aKro/Brandia: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Lushen: ATT/CD/ATT, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, Must 1 shot waves without attack buff
Other Info:
Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above
Artifacts used depends on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)
Ling should be on some sort of dmg build, CD is ideal while CR works as well
For team 1, Ling ling can move 3rd if still used in rift beasts and sr5 to give her more dmg
For team 3, Loren can be slower than Eirgar if it fit with your other teams

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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listen

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Reread and try again

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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theres no way i can get 240 spd

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thats crazy

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i got everything else

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Use a swift set

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM

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I HAVE TRIED

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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just faster than raoq is also fine

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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That isn't 135k ehp

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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stop

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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😦

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im a failure

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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if raoq is suppose to be 169 cmb spd and fran is suppose to be 200

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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FARM GIANTS NERD

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Honestly though

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You should be able to make reqs

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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that then means yr ling ling must be between 169 cmb spd and 200 cmb spd

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:36 AM

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Don't you have some quad speeds

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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the hardest part for me

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is the crit rate

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Don't you want ling ling faster than Fran?

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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everything goes out the window

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when i 100% CR

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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idle bluff is the crit rate

Crate slot 4

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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not for this yet

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Hmmm

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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want to use lingling for water rift, so needs dmg

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so moves 3rd

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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That's interesting

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM

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i just need better runes

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i farm GBAH every day like a good new summoners war player

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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Good get back to it bozo you'll be doing it forever

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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wow..

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until i die?

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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You don't have water twins right?

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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idle bluff until i die?

Yeah probably

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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whats their non awakenede name

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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water twins

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:38 AM

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Boomerang warrior

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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i have her

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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And chakram dancer

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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water boomerang warrior

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umm

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let me check chakram

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what is chakram

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wind?

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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?swarfarm

radiant smeltBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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https://swarfarm.com

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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water

tame ingot Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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./monster

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www.google.com

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:39 AM

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The answer is definitely just more farming but I like building water twins if I have them available on a new account, it makes things much much smoother

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:40 AM

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even if you have water twins you still use lingling in sr5

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I think

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:40 AM

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And they're still usable in siege

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Like not higher siege of course but it's not wasted resources

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Like ace was saying

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You can type /monster and then their name

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So if I say hey do you have Talia

flat scarabBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Talia (Water Chakram Dancer)

Wikia

Base

HP: 9225 — DEF: 582
ATK: 780 — SPD: 103
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 0 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Attack
Stars: 5
Devils: 10
Farmable: No

Awaken

From: Chakram Dancer

Lead

Increase the Critical Rate of ally monsters in the Dungeons by 24%

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:41 AM

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oooo

flat scarabBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Tractor (Water Frankenstein)

Wikia

Base

HP: 9225 — DEF: 681
ATK: 516 — SPD: 98
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 25 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Defense
Stars: 4
Devils: 10
Farmable: No

Awaken

Secondary Awakening
From: Frankenstein
To: Tractor (2A)

Lead

Increase the HP of ally monsters in the Guild Battles by 21%

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:41 AM

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okay more farming

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BUT IM ON THE RIGHT TRACK

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she just needs spd right?

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and ehp

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and thats all

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its so tempting to buy the toa packs

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must resist

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must stay f2p

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:43 AM

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idle bluff she just needs spd right?

spd/ehp/acc mentioned in ?sfah

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rest in dmg

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:43 AM

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i hit the acc

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:43 AM

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and with spd mentioned in ?sfah I mean at least 169 cmb spd

flat scarabBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:45 AM

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90682 ehp. Deffbroken: 43696 ehp.

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:45 AM

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okay yeah more rune farming

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thanks guys

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i think im getting too eager

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course it takes time to build these units

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:51 AM

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idle bluff course it takes time to build these units

there's no rush really

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no time spent farming is wasted, just remember tha

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my mentality is

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if you're on a new account and you:

craft all reapps
do all content. this one is tough, you do want to get as much as you can as soon as you can, my list for this (when you're new) is regular arena, labyrinth, subjugation, & can auto your rta with support mons from the get go for more resources
finish toa monthly
spend all dhole energy meaningfully and buy refreshes

then you're not missing out on anything

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with the caveat of
as soon as you can you want to enter siege/world guild battle/interserver arena again for more rewards
but as a new player that probably is a good amount over the horizon

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:54 AM

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labryinth subjugation i havent even heard of that one

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:54 AM

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are you in a guild

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:54 AM

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thank u for the support scarlet

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i am ya

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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do your guild content

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bonky_Bonk

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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i check i

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in

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thats about it

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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do the other stuff too

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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ramabonk

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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whats the other stuff

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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go look

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glajj

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if you're in a low rank guild do some siege hits too

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just do anything you can

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also guild rival battle

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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they're level 30

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:55 AM

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its free

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rank is different from leve

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l

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:56 AM

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oh

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umm

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oops

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:56 AM

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anyways

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just do all the guild content

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:56 AM

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whats all the content

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that subjage thing

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siege

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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click the guild tower

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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ahh

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battle

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oo labyrinth

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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just go through one step at a time

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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ill check it out thanks

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are the toa packs worth it

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or should i not go down that route

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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?spending

radiant smeltBOT Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Don't spend money.
Best value: Daily Pack 1, 2 & 3 -> ToA Pass + daily -> Reapps -> rest

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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dont spend money

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got it

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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i wrote this command

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KEKW

spiral hull Dec 7, 2024, 12:58 AM

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Also dont be worried about doing well in any of the guild content.

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You're just doing it for rewards.

slate trench Dec 7, 2024, 12:58 AM

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yep

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true, that's what jx tells me too

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 12:59 AM

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sweeeet

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thanks guys

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also l

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last question

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you know on your profile

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how do people have like

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buildings

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with all their monsters posing

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mine are just on a field

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 12:59 AM

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you can craft them

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:01 AM

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how

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 1:01 AM

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craft building

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building tab

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:02 AM

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i dont swee it

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i just see statues

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and a school girl outfit

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omg..

#

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maybe this game isnt so bad after all

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 1:05 AM

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stop yapping in a help thread ramabonk

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:05 AM

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but u havent answered my question yet

warped urchin Dec 7, 2024, 1:06 AM

#

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:06 AM

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thank u

spiral hull Dec 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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warped urchin

No, I don't think he's asking about those.

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I think he's wondering about the profiles that show off your monsters.

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The backgrounds.

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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spiral hull I think he's wondering about the profiles that show off your monsters.

ya

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thats what i meant

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when u click on a name in chat

spiral hull Dec 7, 2024, 1:17 AM

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I don't remember where you get the building one, but I know there's others that you get as rewards for events, such as the 10 year anniversary one.

idle bluff Dec 7, 2024, 1:19 AM

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ah i found it

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"available from a special method"

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dang

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:22 AM

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@warped urchin so i can get to 135k ehp but i lost a dramatic amount of attack

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:22 AM

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show the build

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:22 AM

#

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completely broken ftw

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:22 AM

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yea thats not gonna work

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:22 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1312409540343496785/1314752019906428990/image.png?ex=67578cbc&is=67563b3c&hm=94cb78e5e0cd7b382f78dbfdf406cac4d33efaba6539ef36e78ae4e347c3841c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=825&height=465

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original one

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was this one better

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:23 AM

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upgrade the runes smadge

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:23 AM

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should i just stick with the original one then..

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too slow

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wont move third

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UGH

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:23 AM

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keep farming and dont worry

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:23 AM

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okay yes sir

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why wont it work, just cause too low atk?

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:24 AM

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it meets all the normal acc spd ehp reqs thats good

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but theres 0 dmg in this build

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:25 AM

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yeah gotcha

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back to gbah i go

warped urchin Dec 9, 2024, 1:25 AM

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also to get a better idea of your lingling stats

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please upgrade her to lvl 40

tame ingot Dec 9, 2024, 1:27 AM

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runes arent just about having the correct stats but also the quality of the stats on the rune as well

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 1:28 AM

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yeah gotcha, ill just keep farming more i keep forgetting im a week in lol

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thank you very much guys

slate trench Dec 9, 2024, 11:07 AM

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idle bluff yeah gotcha, ill just keep farming more i keep forgetting im a week in lol

bonky_Bonk

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Like I said before about "wasted resources"

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As long as you are doing what I said you aren't wasting anything

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Literally all of us still farm giants

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You're a little baby and that's OK. Stick to giants, look for higher quality runes and keep at it
Hunt for either substat synergy, high efficiency or high speed runes

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 11:14 AM

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slate trench Dec 9, 2024, 11:15 AM

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Make her level 40

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Spectra too. Any monster you use needs to be level 40

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 11:26 AM

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slate trench Make her level 40

will do boss

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this is better than before tho right

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just need to get the ehp up a bit

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and cd could be higher tbh

slate trench Dec 9, 2024, 11:31 AM

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Don't need cdmg

idle bluff Dec 9, 2024, 11:34 AM

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ah okay atk only gotcha

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:16 PM

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hello

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welcome to my office

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:16 PM

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okay

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:16 PM

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okay.

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im ready

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:16 PM

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deck req sent

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:17 PM

#

#

this one?

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:17 PM

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ye if you +15 those runes you should be fine

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will want some more dmg later on but will do for sfah I think

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:18 PM

#

#

rip atk

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NO

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HER SPEED

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she wont be third anymore

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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? how

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thats faster than raoq

flat scarabBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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121511 ehp. Deffbroken: 54612 ehp.

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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?sfah

radiant smeltBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

#

Steel Fortress Abyss (Hard)

Teams and Turn Order:

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

After PVE Teams

Ling ling > Lushen (L) > Loren > Fran > Brandia/2aKro (45-50 seconds)
Ling ling > Lushen > Loren > Eirgar (L) > Brandia (35-40 seconds)

Requirements:
Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Fran: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd
Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 239+ cmb spd, 45% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
2aKro/Brandia: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Lushen: ATT/CD/ATT, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, Must 1 shot waves without attack buff
Other Info:
Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above
Artifacts used depends on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)
Ling should be on some sort of dmg build, CD is ideal while CR works as well
For team 1, Ling ling can move 3rd if still used in rift beasts and sr5 to give her more dmg
For team 3, Loren can be slower than Eirgar if it fit with your other teams

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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+15 the runes...

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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I DID.

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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oh shit

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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u ruined my ling ling

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😦

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:19 PM

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did not

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:20 PM

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jk

#

120k should be fine anyway right

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:20 PM

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no

#

135k

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:20 PM

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wow.

#

hmmm

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:21 PM

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okay yea no i miscalculated that will be slower than raoq

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:21 PM

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see simi i know what im doing

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:21 PM

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send a request again ill convert it back

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:21 PM

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sometimes

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thank you

#

maybe its time to r3

#

?rule3

radiant smeltBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:22 PM

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3️⃣ No Sales/Real Money Trading : Posts that attempt buy, sell or trade accounts will be immediately removed and user banned. This includes ANY discussion related to specific players account trading and begging/asking for accounts . Giving away an account is acceptable .
... learn more rules at #rules-faqs !

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:22 PM

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hmm.

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:22 PM

#

no

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:22 PM

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i didnt realise how long farming runes take

#

gotta be like everyday consistenyl for a year

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lol

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:24 PM

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can you roll this rune rq

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:25 PM

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yes sir

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:25 PM

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also that amount of unrolled runes is...

#

ramabonk

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:25 PM

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simi

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i dont have time to roll them at work

#

i literally just auto gabh

#

gbah

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and then go back to work

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:26 PM

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okay Gladge

#

but first priority when u have time to actually play the game

#

is to roll all good runes

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:26 PM

#

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:26 PM

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good

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thatll do

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:26 PM

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flush

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:28 PM

#

check the build now

#

what I did was make sure the 3 criteria: acc/ehp/spd are correct, after that as much dmg as I could find

#

which is how you should build almost all pve mons

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

there were different criteria tho

#

what made u pick acc/ehp/spd

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?sfah

radiant smeltBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

Steel Fortress Abyss (Hard)

Teams and Turn Order:

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

After PVE Teams

Ling ling > Lushen (L) > Loren > Fran > Brandia/2aKro (45-50 seconds)
Ling ling > Lushen > Loren > Eirgar (L) > Brandia (35-40 seconds)

Requirements:
Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Fran: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd
Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 239+ cmb spd, 45% acc
2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
2aKro/Brandia: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd
Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc
Lushen: ATT/CD/ATT, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, Must 1 shot waves without attack buff
Other Info:
Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above
Artifacts used depends on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)
Ling should be on some sort of dmg build, CD is ideal while CR works as well
For team 1, Ling ling can move 3rd if still used in rift beasts and sr5 to give her more dmg
For team 3, Loren can be slower than Eirgar if it fit with your other teams

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

for lingling?

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

yeah

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

well the cr too

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

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its either cr/cd or h-att

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

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no not for rune slots

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

#

oh

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

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just in stats

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:29 PM

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i completely

#

misread that

#

yeah stupid moment

#

gotcha

#

#

i +15ed them

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:30 PM

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calculate ehp now

flat scarabBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:30 PM

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138854 ehp. Deffbroken: 61287 ehp.

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:30 PM

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wooooo

#

thank you very much simi

#

sfah here i come..

#

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

#

oh

#

this guy

#

raoq

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

#

this should be faster than raoq, I didnt take fran lead into account tho smadge

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

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my fran is so speedy

#

shes like 210

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

#

work on raoq for now

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

#

wait as in

#

ling ling should be lead?

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

#

when you built him you can see if you need more spd on lingling

#

no fran

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:31 PM

#

oh so fran lead is fine

#

Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)

#

but it says team and turn order

#

in the command

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:32 PM

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yea?

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:32 PM

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confusing

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:32 PM

#

thats the team

#

in the turn order

#

and then in a point it says you can move lingling to third

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:32 PM

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you are absolutely right

#

raoq is the fire wolfy guy

#

?devilmon

radiant smeltBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:33 PM

#

For New Players

Veromos > Spectra 2A > Vigor 2A > Raoq 2A
Galleon if used on your gbah team (S1 and s3)
Save the rest of your devilmon until #guides is finished and you are ready to start PvP

✥ Nat 5★ monsters are generally prioritized with devilmon. However, there are 4★ monsters which require skill-ups and are worth devilmoning ASAP (for example, galleon for 100% harmful effect rate on S3). For more information about this, check the 4* skillup part of #1048719420870107227 .

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:33 PM

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2a time

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:33 PM

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so i shouldnt devilmon him until i build vigor?

#

oh

#

i dont need to devil him

#

i have lots of inugamis

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:33 PM

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devil is for after 2a

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:33 PM

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can i use awakened inugamis to feed skills?

#

for 2a

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:34 PM

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no

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:34 PM

#

aww

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:34 PM

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2a is only other 2as (dont ever do that) or devilmon

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:34 PM

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got it

#

#

is it worth pulling for any of these guys

#

or nah

#

my engraved scrolls keep stacking up

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:35 PM

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check ?sstones in #bot-commands

#

I know you already have astar and lushen

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:36 PM

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stalker.

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:36 PM

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so you'll get galleon from nat4event (only when you need it)

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:36 PM

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nat 4 event?

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:36 PM

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?nat4evenet

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?nat4evet

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?nat4event

radiant smeltBOT Dec 10, 2024, 3:36 PM

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** Summoners Way Pick A Nat 4 Event**
this event does NOT expire, so there is no hurry to summon from the event till you need it
the list of recommended monsters: ?sstones

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:37 PM

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theres a pick a nat 4 event?

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:37 PM

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yes the fourth event of summoners way

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:38 PM

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oh

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this one?

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:38 PM

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ye

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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ah..

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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did you already do it Eeeeh

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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i may have already claimed that..

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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what did you pick...

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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....

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gonna be honest

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i have absolutely no idea

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:39 PM

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ramabonk

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:40 PM

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😦

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:40 PM

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save your engraved scrolls for galleon then

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:40 PM

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is that

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water captain

warped urchin Dec 10, 2024, 3:40 PM

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yes

idle bluff Dec 10, 2024, 3:40 PM

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omg

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