#I'm new to this game pls help me

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sly sun
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Hello guys. I just downloaded the game. What should I do right now? Can you please give me the summary of the beginners guide? It's a lot to read 😵

marsh token
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start 1 comand by 1

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your first stop would be to have a look at ?qstart and ?farmer

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then slowly go down the list as you progress, they are all in a sequential order

sly sun
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?qstart

tiny dewBOT
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Useful Starting information:

  • Commands are meant to be used in ⁠#bot-commands

  • Clear scenario fully on normal for the rewards

  • To level up your team type the ?farmer command in #bot-commands.

  • Friends and Mentors

  • Ask in the chat for people with strong reps (Preferably Lapis, Beth, Alicia, Verad).

  • Use these to help clear the Novice Summoners Questline to get Lapis (water magic knight) ASAP and Clear Mt. Runar as stated in ?farmer

  • Runes

  • Do NOT bother keeping any of the runes dropped from scenario.

  • Completing certain scenarios will give you the option to choose between a fatal/blade/energy set, choose Energy.

  • How to Get Beginner Monsters

  • Shannon (wind pixie): Summoners Way

  • Fran (light fairy queen): Clear Kabir Ruins

  • Loren (light cowgirl): Secret Dungeon

  • Belladeon (light inugami): Secret Dungeon

  • Darion (light vagabond): Secret Dungeon

  • Kro (dark inugami): Summoners Way (Dhole)

  • Kumae (dark yeti): Secret Dungeon

  • Veromos (dark ifrit): Will be grabbing the 3 Natural 4star monsters (Nat 4) for the Dark Ifrit fusion from Event 2 of the Summoners Welcome Event. The last monster (Dark Yeti) can be gotten from a Secret Dungeon (SD). Requires you to fuse by using the Fusion Hexagram. (see ⁠#1048681073502068917 "Beginner Resources" )

Use this site to learn which monsters are which monsters:
https://swarfarm.com/bestiary

  • Skillups : family members of the same family can be used to increase a monsters skills
  • Can be gotten from Magic Shop, Secret dungeons (SD), Unknown Scrolls (US), and Mystical Scrolls.
  • Loren: SD - Dont buy cow girls from Guild Shop
  • Fran: U.S and Magic Shop - Fairies
  • Shannon: U.S - Pixie
  • Belladeon/Kro: Garen/Telain Forest, Faimon and SD
  • Darion: U.S
  • Veromos: 1st monster to Devilmon, fully
sly sun
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?farmer

tiny dewBOT
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  • YOUR FIRST FARMER

  • Unawakened Magic Knight (water) is gotten from clearing the Novice Summoners Way questline

  • Equip her with the Fatal/Blade set from Event 1 of the Summoners Welcome Event

  • Evolve her to 6✰ and and once you clear Mt Runar and recieve the +15 Vampire/Revenge runes equip Lapis with this rune set instead

  • 6✰ Lapis first to take advantage of the combined 3x experience boost (Ameria's Blessing 2x exp + 2x exp coupon, they stack!). This lets you quickly level the monsters you will use for the ?justdoit team.

  • Awakened 5✰ Lapis with this set finishes** Faimon Hell stage 1** 9/10 times and at 6✰ clears 99%.

  • Faimon Hell Stage 1 is where you will be increasing your monsters levels to 40. Also want to see ?evolving for more information on how to evolve monsters.

For more information on evolving monsters make sure to read the ?evolving command.

  • AFTER PROGRESSION
  • Lapis can continue to be your main source of leveling your monsters as her time for clearing Faimon hell can reach speeds of 10-20 seconds.
  • If one choose, another monster can be used for this to farm the higher level scenario's but you wont build a specific monster to do so and will want to consider time it takes to clear into consideration.
sly sun
marsh token
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you can do them

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some events require you to collect a total of 300 of event coins to get all the rewards

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u can just claim them

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there is an artifact event as well that you can have a look at

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do visit them 1 by 1

solid panther
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i think hes talking about these

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that are ending soon

marsh token
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those can still be claimed

sly sun
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Yeah. Just keep summoning right?

marsh token
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yes

sly sun
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Anyways. Thanks guys. I think I have to clear the map on battle and learn by just playing the game.

marsh token
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for the last ending event

sly sun
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I hope I will not make newbie mistakes kekw

marsh token
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can always ask specific questions here

sly sun
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On artifact crafting & fever shop event what should I get

sly sun
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Is it ok to feed lower lvl monsters to level up someone?

sly sun
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What's the use of crystals?

tiny dewBOT
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jx9

[Message Link](#1049886722831429672 message) to #1049886722831429672
Artifact Crafting Event

The following are suggestions if you have no idea what to get. These are designed to be versatile picks that can be used in multiple different areas of the game from beginner PvE to end game PvP, and have a great chance of being useful regardless of where the rolls end up.

Attribute Artifact (left side)

  • Attribute:: Wind
  • Main Property: HP +
  • Sub Properties: any combination of the following
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to SPD
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to ATK
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to HP
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to DEF
    • DMG Received from Fire -
    • DMG Received from Wind -
    • DMG Received from Light/Dark - and DMG Dealt to Wind/Water + can be acceptable if you are tired of rolling

Type Artifact (right side)

  • Type: Attack
  • Main Property: ATK +
  • Sub Properties: Support variant
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to SPD
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to ATK
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to HP
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to DEF
    • [Skill 2] Accuracy + and [Skill 3] Accuracy + can be acceptable if you are tired of rolling
  • Sub Properties: Nuker variant
    • ATK/DEF UP Effect +
    • [Skill 3/4] CRIT DMG +
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to ATK
    • Add'l DMG Proportional to SPD, CRIT DMG+ as the enemy's HP condition is good, and CRIT DMG+ as the enemy's HP condition is bad are all acceptable for the last substat

If you have something specific you're looking for, you can set up the Sub Properties notification settings for it. However, personally I won't be using the notification settings and just manually checking each roll, since there's more than 4 different sub properties that I would accept, and certain substats I'd only accept when in combination with certain other substats (for example the 2 different variants of the type arti).

Examples of monsters these artifacts can be used for:

  • PvE: Ling Ling
  • Siege: Windy, Feng
  • RTA: Ethna, Wind robo
  • Right side Nuker variant: Lushen, Julie
shrewd roost
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Follow ?monsterrule

sly sun
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What is lapis?

shrewd roost
tiny dewBOT
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  • Crystal Titan
  • Energy refreshes (Including Dimensional Hole Energy)
  • Later on the Crystal Dragon
sly sun
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?lapis

shrewd roost
sly sun
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Ohh she named Lapis

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Ok thank you

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?farmer

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  • YOUR FIRST FARMER

  • Unawakened Magic Knight (water) is gotten from clearing the Novice Summoners Way questline

  • Equip her with the Fatal/Blade set from Event 1 of the Summoners Welcome Event

  • Evolve her to 6✰ and and once you clear Mt Runar and recieve the +15 Vampire/Revenge runes equip Lapis with this rune set instead

  • 6✰ Lapis first to take advantage of the combined 3x experience boost (Ameria's Blessing 2x exp + 2x exp coupon, they stack!). This lets you quickly level the monsters you will use for the ?justdoit team.

  • Awakened 5✰ Lapis with this set finishes** Faimon Hell stage 1** 9/10 times and at 6✰ clears 99%.

  • Faimon Hell Stage 1 is where you will be increasing your monsters levels to 40. Also want to see ?evolving for more information on how to evolve monsters.

For more information on evolving monsters make sure to read the ?evolving command.

  • AFTER PROGRESSION
  • Lapis can continue to be your main source of leveling your monsters as her time for clearing Faimon hell can reach speeds of 10-20 seconds.
  • If one choose, another monster can be used for this to farm the higher level scenario's but you wont build a specific monster to do so and will want to consider time it takes to clear into consideration.
sly sun
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?progression

tiny dewBOT
sly sun
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Bruh my monster is full. Is there any use of these? I have storage alr

shrewd roost
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Put everything you’re not using in storage

sly sun
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Yeah my storage is full also

shrewd roost
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There’s unlimited storage for mons without runes or levels

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It’s called sealed shrine

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Can expand storage for mana

sly sun
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Ohhhh yeah I can store in sealed shrine

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Thanksss

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My place is not crowded anymore kekw

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?runes

sly sun
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@severe bough question. I chose the correct sub properties but I got a different sub properties when I confirmed choosing the stated sub properties here

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I got these instead:
Crit dmg received
Crit dmg+ as the enemy's condition is bad
Atk/def up effect
Single target skill crit dmg on your turn

severe bough
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You misread the event

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Read it again

sly sun
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I thought it's a guarantee. Mb. Thanks for your time:D

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What should I choose?

hybrid sparrow
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left and then yr lookingn for a better 4th stat and +dmg at bad hp

sly sun
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Thanks!

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?evolving

tiny dewBOT
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Monster Grades
1☆ -> 2☆ -> 3☆ -> 4☆ -> 5☆ -> 6☆

  • Each grade of monster is worth so many points.
  • To evolve a monster from one grade to the next you need to put in a certain amount of evolution points for that evolution grade.
  • Monsters do NOT need to be max level to evolve to the next grade.
  • Example you need 5 5☆ fodder (120 pts) to reach the 600 pts needed to evolve a monster to 6☆ or 100 3☆ (6pts) monsters

Grade |** Grade value** | Evolve to Next Grade
1☆ - 1, 1
2☆ - 2, 4
3☆ - 6, 18
4☆ - 24, 96
5☆ - 120, 600

  • Always buy the 5☆ rainbowmon from Guild Shop!
  • Purchase 1☆ and 2☆ star monsters and Unknown scrolls in the Magic Shop and Purchase 3☆ monster pieces in Guild Magic Shop.
  • Farming Faimon Hell for Monster drops and Unknown Scrolls while leveling your monsters to level 40.
sly sun
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?gbah

tiny dewBOT
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Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)

  • Team Upgrade Order, Turn order, and when to move to next team
  1. ?justdoit2 team
  2. Darion > Shannon > Belladeon > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  3. Shannon > Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > 2aKro
  4. Belladeon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > Wind Homie > 2aKro
  5. Galleon > 2aSpectra > Vero(L) > Wind Homie > 2aKro
  6. See ?teshgbah or ?kylegbah for spd team

Upgrade Info For Above Teams:

  • Upgrade to Team 2: Vero and 2aKro

  • Fixing turn order and acc of supports

  • Vero: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 180 cmb spd, 120k+ EHP

  • 2aKro: ATT/CD/ATT, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd (can be lower early on), 100k+ ehp (can use a slot 2 or 6 HP% early on)

  • Returning Players start here, if you cant than start with ?justdoit

  • Upgrade to Team 3: Replace Darion for 2aSpectra

  • 2aSpectra: Spd/CD/HP, 100% CR, 45% acc, 120k+ EHP

  • Done before moving to ?toa

  • Upgrade to Team 4: Replace Shannon with Wind Homie

  • Wind Homie: ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 35% acc, 169 combat spd, 80k+ EHP

  • How to make ?whomie and can be added during Rift Beast step

  • Upgrade to Team 5: Replace Belladeon with Galleon

  • Galleon: Spd/(CR/CD)/HP, 100% CR, 35% acc, 120k EHP

  • Wants skill 1 and 3 maxed for best Defense Break Chance before adding

  • Upgrade to Team 6: You move to the speed teams mentioned near the top of command AFTER yr done with #guides guides.

  • What is EHP? See command: ?ehp

  • Accuracy of GBAH is 34%

  • EHP values are a rough estimate, being above is always better

  • The minimum requirements must be met first before adding more DMG

  • Upgrading to the next team depends on current step of #guides

  • Artifacts depend on what one needs, Att for more dmg or HP/DEF for more EHP

white pivot
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try to avoid using bot commands in your help thread if they are too big it makes it hard to read through and help

sly sun
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Yeah sorry I'll use bot-command now.

white pivot
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no worries I made the same mistake too actually

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I saw your message in the general chat asking for help do u still need?

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I'm not advanced at all but I've been through the guide

sly sun
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Yeah no I'm good now. I'm starting to understand the game haha.

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I'll just ask again if I something came up. Thanks!

sly sun
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?toa

tiny dewBOT
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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE

Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta ?akroma ?ragleo

  • First ToaN (normal) team will consists of the ?justdoit team which is Veromos, Fran, Shannon, Loren and Lapis

  • ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Vero, Mav (wind penguin), Fran and 2 of these units below depending on floor

  • 2aSpectra, Melia, Loren

  • [Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Fran] - Violent-Swift/Any SPD/DEF/HP, Def Artifacts, 200 SPD

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Mellia] - Despair-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆, faster than mav

  • [2aSpectra] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/HP, 100% CR, HP/DEF artifacts, 45% acc, 120K+ EHP

  • [Loren] - Swift/Any, SPD/DEF/HP, HP/Def Artifacts, 45% acc, 200 SPD

  • [Veromos and Shannon] are runed as they are for ?gbah

Additional Info

  • If you are not sure of what a monster does, don't be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do. This is the time you learn what monsters do.
  • Will start to be able to auto more floors as your monster runes improve otherwise manual the floors
  • Mellia is the only monster who doesnt need skill ups, the others see ?qstart and ?devilmon .
  • Use in Anti-Crit stages (Jultan/Kumae and Art)
  • Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages.
  • 45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
  • Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does.
sly sun
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My bad not that

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?justdoit

tiny dewBOT
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First Dimensional Hole 2nd Awakening Team:

  • Lapis: Leader, equip her with the free Vamp/Rev set from clearing MT Runar
  • Fran: Give her 2 HP artifacts. Equip her with the Vio/Will set from the Summoners Welcome Event.
  • Loren: Equip her with the free Swift/Energy set from Summoners Welcome Event. Give 2 HP artifacts when she's 6star.
  • can be done at 5star but will want her as she's important for later content.
  • Kro: Equip with the Fatal/Blade set that Lapis was on. 6star and equip with 2 HP artifacts.
  • can gain 2nd awaken xp before being completely skilled up, but needs to be max skilled to be 2nd awakened
  • Artifacts can be gotten once a player reached summoner level 27, see ?artifacts for more info

Boss focus is straight boss: see ?bossfocus

**First TOA team: **

  • Lapis: 6star on the free Vamp/Rev set
  • Shannon: 5star on the free Despair/Focus set, replace the slot 4 att% with any free hp% rune.
  • Fran: 6star on the free Vio/Will set
  • Loren: 6star on the free Swift/Energy set
  • Kro: 6star on the free Fatal/Blade set
  • Vero: 6star on the Mellia fusion reward set. Power runes up to +15. Will replace kro when he is completed and will be the leader.

Should be able to auto most of the floors 1-100.
Some floors will need to be manueled or repeated a couple times due to some RNG.
Some problem floors will include Vero, Arta, and floor 100 boss.
Do as much as you can untill you hit a brick wall, complete toan 100 or ?justdoit2 is ready.

sly sun
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What does these mean # star on free (rune/rune) set?

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Shannon - 5 star on the free despair/focus set

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Like that

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I dont get it

hybrid sparrow
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u dont 6 star shannon

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and u are given a free rune set in the summoners way beginner event that is despair/focus

sly sun
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Yeah but what does "5 star on the free despair/focus set" means?

hybrid sparrow
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i just said

sly sun
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Should I 5 star when I got the despair/focus set?

hybrid sparrow
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you leave shannon at 5 stars (this is the grade of the monster)

hybrid sparrow
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its 2 different things

sly sun
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Oh okay. Thanks!

sly sun
marsh token
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your inbox

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expiry is 7 days from getting lapis to 6*, so check your inbox for any exp boost with 6 days left

sly sun
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Hi guys. Is it ok to get the monster and grind again in SD for the skill ups?

sly sun
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But no time to get more copies

shrewd roost
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for loren, grinding extra secret dungeon is the best way to get skillups. although during the current event you get a fully skilled loren for free

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for inugamis, you get copies from farming faimon hell as a side benefit while you are leveling up any new mons you need to build

sly sun
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Oh ok ok. Thanks!

sly sun
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Is feeding other werewolves to Vigor is good for upgrading the skills?

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Or is it good in general to feed same monster to upgrade the skill of one monster that you're using?

shrewd roost
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Don’t build anything until you need it for the content you are working on next

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Vigor is a good mon and you will build him to help farm dhole, and later he is a siege staple

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But don’t want resources building him now (in terms of fodder and runes)

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Eventually when you build vigor, yes you can use other werewolves too. Would not feed light or dark since they are harder to get and are also useful mons. But you can feed extra copies of wind/water/fire werewolves to skill up vigor

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Follow ?monsterrule and always keep at least one copy of each 4* or higher mon, 3* light/dark, and other specific mons mentioned

sly sun
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Thank you!

sly sun
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A lil update on my 6th day account 😄:
Toa N ✅
Toa H 25th floor (Not stuck)
Gbah ✅

Needing some advice or any idea coz I'm awakening too many monster at a time.

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Am I in a right pacing or too slow in my progression?

hybrid sparrow
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u only work on monsters that you need for yr current/next step in #guides

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as for yr progress, it matters little

each person progresses on their own time

sly sun
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Thanks!

sly sun
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I'm confused on the gbah, toa, or any advices that are saying like ex. HP/CD/SPD. Do I disregard the set of the runes for the correct stats? Any clarification pls.

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I already read the introduction to runes but I'm just confused on the stats and set of runes if I disregard to meet the stat required for the specific monster.

marsh token
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you can use whatever set you want, as long as you can meet the stat requirement stated

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hitting set effect just lowers rune requirements

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HP/CD/SPD means rune 2 hp %, rune 4 cd %, rune 6 spd

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for example, although only rune 2 has spd main stat

sly sun
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Thanks!

sly sun
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Question, is the plus stat already added to the base or not? Like here, my attack is 593 or 593+132?

shrewd roost
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Everything is added to the base

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You also have additional stats you don’t see in this screen from summoner skills, guild skills, and any leader skills

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Each of those are applied to only the monster’s base stats, not the total stats including runes

sly sun
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So in that pic my attack is only 593 and hidden additional stat? Sorry I'm confused

tranquil pollen
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Js take the base star

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And the additional

shrewd roost
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In that pic your attack is 593 plus 132 from runes

tranquil pollen
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And add a percent of your base stat

shrewd roost
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Plus whatever your summoner skills gives times base (.2 or smth like that)

sly sun
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Got it. Thanks guys!

shrewd roost
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This might help if you want it written out

tiny dewBOT
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aceatall

[Message Link](#1049393485372993567 message) to #1049393485372993567

  • How to Calculate Total HP/DEF/ATT and Combat Speed

(base x [ 1 + summoner skill + leader skill+ team set] + runes) x (1 + buff) = total

  • Base:
  • Monsters base stats
  • **Summoner and Leader Skills and Team sets: **
  • Turn percent into a decimal
  • Team sets include: Enhance/Fight/Deter
  • Buff: ATT 50%/DEF 70%/SPD 30% buffs
  • Turn percent into a decimal
  • Dont worry about this unless Speed tuning with spd buff or another special case
  • Total SPD: Combat Speed (cmb spd)
sly sun
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Yeah definitely helpful. Thank you!

sly sun
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@shrewd roost is it normal for us to change the runes of our monster if we grind on different things? Coz all of the advices were not the same in stats/rune on what content I grind.

shrewd roost
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Later builds are almost always strictly better than prior builds in the guides. One exception is ling ling might want a different build for rift/raid than sf where neither is necessarily better but just tailored for different things

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So if you are building something for rift beasts, for example, that you also use in prior content, it should still work in the prior content

sly sun
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Gotcha! Thanks

sly sun
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Is the main purpose of making homunculus with water skill is to SSS Water Rift? Because I already SSS-ed the rift without homie.

hybrid sparrow
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no

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its because that is most likey going to be the first rift that u SSS to begin with, the one you'll be farming the most of (cuz of the gem's it drops) , and since you'll have so much extra water rift crystals it makes sense to then use those to craft the water homie as a byproduct of farmging for gems and yr weekly reapp materials

sly sun
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Is it worthy to devilmon homie? I already fully maxed the skills of mentioned monster on (?)devilmon.

hybrid sparrow
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if its not in ?devilmon then you shouldnt be devilmoning during #guides

sly sun
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Oh my bad. Thanks!

sly sun
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Hello it's me again. I'm just confused because out of my 30 repeat battle in faimon hell boss I just got 3 inugami. Is that a normal rate drop or it's just my rng is unlucky.

silent pawn
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RNG is RNG

sly sun
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Bruhhhh

sly sun
marsh token
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you should always be farming inugami in faimon hell

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alongside levelling up your monsters

sly sun
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Thanks!

severe bough
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wait 30 repeat battle as in one 30x run, or 900 runs?

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3 inu drops in 30 runs is extremely lucky

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?scenariodroprate