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hardy jewel Jul 29, 2024, 6:57 AM

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Been on hiatus for a few months, now wanting to get back to getting better at RTA. I was doing pretty well in C1 before I had to stop playing so hopefully I can get farther than that this season. Got a couple new pulls since my last thread and am curious how much the meta has changed since 2 seasons ago or so.

I was largely using Nessa Sagar core before, is that sort of team still good? Is there stuff in my RTA box not worth using anymore? Any big meta threats I should be ready and able to counter? I’m mostly curious where my rune quality should be focused now compared to before so I can do a big reruning session if need be.

Also, leaving my SWARFARM here in case someone wants to look at it https://swarfarm.com/profile/Fnobly/?

hardy jewel Jul 31, 2024, 5:07 AM

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Also, how reliable is the info on websites like swarena and swranking? I'm sure their pick/win/ban rate statistics are solid but I don't really know how to parse their "good with/against" statistics since they seems kinda iffy at first glance.

hearty lily Jul 31, 2024, 5:17 AM

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what do you mean?

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their info is accurate

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what could be iffy about it

hardy jewel Jul 31, 2024, 5:21 AM

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I mean like this section, is this useful info at all?

hearty lily Jul 31, 2024, 5:21 AM

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that's up to you but the data is accurate

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it's just objective data

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it doesn't give you any subjective advice

hardy jewel Jul 31, 2024, 5:27 AM

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kk, I just wasn't sure whether to take it at face value or not

hardy jewel Aug 4, 2024, 7:27 AM

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Got crushed here, Smicer+Fire Yen was super rough. Any idea what I could have done against this? Feel like I should have drafted a second immunity buffer over Nessa at the very least but not sure if that would have made enough of a difference.

hardy jewel Aug 5, 2024, 6:03 PM

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More Smicer losses, so far he’s my biggest obstacle. Seen some people say Vero is good against him? I’d love to have something else to try against him because clearly every approach I’ve tried hasn’t worked.

hardy jewel Aug 5, 2024, 10:12 PM

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I don’t know what to take from this one, dude caught me off guard with a swift/will verde and ran laps around me the whole match. Anything I could have done here or was this just rune gap?

hardy jewel Aug 7, 2024, 2:31 AM

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Saw Masha and several crit units and got excited, but att buffed Masha wrecked me and oneshot my Nessa. Not sure if maybe a different ban or last pick would have helped or if I was just screwed.

hardy jewel Aug 13, 2024, 11:49 PM

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Tried to be a little different here and got smacked hard for it. In hindsight I had no real answer to Parjanya, probably should have just let Oli through and drafted more around him.

hardy jewel Aug 16, 2024, 1:56 PM

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Been having trouble with these speedy control comps lately. I feel like I can’t really chase turn 1 against them, but if I commit to turn 2 I usually just lose. Douglas works occasionally but I don’t think he can be my only answer to this. What counters teams like this? Should I be trying harder to outspeed with like Eshir or something?

hardy jewel Aug 17, 2024, 2:37 AM

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This dude caught me way off guard, several units here I’ve barely ever dealt with so I wasn’t really sure what to pick. Herteit was quite a beast, and Angela made it very hard to keep anything debuffed. What angle should I have gone for here? Maybe banned one of them over Pater? Daphnis over Ethna? I’m really unsure what angle I could have gone here that would have worked.

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:01 PM

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oh yea that is a lot of posts without response KEKW

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let me see if I can help

hardy jewel Aug 17, 2024, 11:02 PM

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told ya man

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tried different times of day and all

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ty for ur time at any rate

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:02 PM

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yea rta help is always harder to give than pve or siege help

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:03 PM

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hardy jewel This dude caught me way off guard, several units here I’ve barely ever dealt wit...

like here I wouldn't double pick spd leads in mid picks, because pater implies that he isn't a heavy turn 1 player

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so drafting one of the spd leads and then something else would be better

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I assume you lack dmg vs the angela + bruiser stuff here but you probably wouldn't get that problem if you didn't do this

hardy jewel Aug 17, 2024, 11:05 PM

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ah, see I saw Oli and assumed he would try to outspeed since a lot of oli drafters i encounter do cleave

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but yeah pater should have signaled that

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and yeah angela was too much sustain for me

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:06 PM

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yea with pater it will never be a hyper aggressive turn 1 team

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:07 PM

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hardy jewel Been having trouble with these speedy control comps lately. I feel like I can’t ...

you can't douglas seara, robo, and miles so it was not a good last pick

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I would rather see eshir or something there

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or maybee shizuka

hardy jewel Aug 17, 2024, 11:10 PM

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shiz against oli zibala? I assume ban oli with that angle but wouldnt she mostly get controlled still?

loud wave Aug 17, 2024, 11:11 PM

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with shiz I'd ban dark robo

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and with eshir probably the 33 lead oli, but I don't play these exact lines so can't speak as much from experience there

hardy jewel Aug 18, 2024, 12:20 AM

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loud wave I would rather see eshir or something there

actually on that topic I’ve been debating who should have my best swift set. rn adriana has it but eshir and sekhmet have both used it at some point and I’m not sure who should actually keep it. Does eshir need fastest or should he be fine with 2nd fastest?

loud wave Aug 18, 2024, 12:21 AM

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it can be on any of those tho I prefer it on a real contest unit

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adriana base is a bit too low to hard contest

hardy jewel Aug 18, 2024, 12:22 AM

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mk fair, i can retool em. maybe tune adriana to ethna/daphnis instead since that’s kinda already how i draft her

hardy jewel Sep 1, 2024, 9:42 PM

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Been busy lately so had a bit of a break, pulled a Vela in the meantime so now I'm curious to try the apparent meta Chandra Vela Sagar core instead of my probably outdated Nessa Sagar Moore/Hae core. What's the general spd tuning for this team? I've looked at replays and seen pretty much a different turn order for each one so I guess I'm more interested in the rationale behind what turn order you go for. It does seem like in general one of Chandra/Vela goes before Sagar, and the other after. Is there a logic behind which goes where or is it just as runes allow?

hardy jewel Sep 2, 2024, 1:09 AM

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@loud wave pingin since u left thread

silent cove Sep 3, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Usually its velajuel first.

Vio/desp Chandra vs sagar first depends on if the rest of the team has strips. If another stripper before sagar, then chandra moves after for slow + boost.

If no other strip, chandra moves before sagar for s1 strip.

There are some swift chandras, but I wouldnt bother with it unless you have insane swift sets.

hardy jewel Sep 3, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Ah ok, so if I'm planning on running say, Haegang a decent bit then Vela > Sagar > Chandra would be preferred. I assume with that setup Chandra wants a fair bit of accuracy since he won't need to be as fast as possible?

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