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forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 2:17 AM

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Am I doing this right? I saw the chart on what each individual letter rating means, but I lack an understanding of when my offense is bad or I was just outruned.

neat cargo Jun 11, 2024, 5:41 AM

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you don't have to worry about the ratings. i just put them in there so that you don't try to copy teams that i rated poorly

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did you want feedback on them in general?

forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 3:40 PM

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neat cargo did you want feedback on them in general?

yeah, that would be great

neat cargo Jun 11, 2024, 3:53 PM

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mimirr narsha wolyung - you should just cleave this, it's slow. base spd of wolyung is only 101

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otherwise yes you were right skogul was a horrible choice, skogul is mostly a tank. so if he's not getting hit he's not very useful

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gin teon on seara bastet narsha was a good try, i think its about same speed and you weren't at a disadvantage. just lost to rune quality

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what are the speeds of your boosters im curious? are you swapping or no?

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the moogwang sath rica is not a good offense and definitely not into that def. need a haegang to make that kind of team work

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tesa racuni rina against seara iris raoq is great, you were probably outruned

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what do your builds look like?

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thinking the enemy proced 10 times is a good sign that you're getting outruned in reality

forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 4:06 PM

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neat cargo what are the speeds of your boosters im curious? are you swapping or no?

I always give the booster my fastest swift set, I'm still farming giants for a faster one

forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 4:08 PM

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neat cargo what do your builds look like?

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https://swarfarm.com/profile/MagTac/?
and my swarfarm

neat cargo Jun 11, 2024, 5:05 PM

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forest stone https://swarfarm.com/profile/MagTac/? and my swarfarm

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ok yea

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so a lot of teams you used were good teams, you lost just because your runes are not good enough

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which is fine. you will always keep improving your runes and at least you have a decent understanding of some counters

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spend more time in giants to get that top swift spd up

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(and raids to grind them)

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make sure you're getting vio runes from event

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would switch tesa to a slot 4 cr build so you can get more other stats

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racuni needs to hit at least 239 tick

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rina needs to be faster (aim for 205 tick)

forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 5:10 PM

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Putting here for reference

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Which slot+stat is most generally useful? I am thinking hp slot 6 but would like a second opinion

neat cargo Jun 11, 2024, 5:13 PM

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vio hp slot 6 is the most useful set/slot/stat in the entire game

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but theres like 50 runes you'll end up choosing so feel free to take some others, depending on what you need

forest stone Jun 11, 2024, 5:40 PM

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forest stone Jun 12, 2024, 4:03 AM

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@neat cargo I saw for the current hoh that lionel is a great siege def monster. I looked on swgt and I don't see any common defense with him, is he useful because of his strip? Pair with a Def breaker + speed lead/dmg dealer?

neat cargo Jun 12, 2024, 4:05 AM

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yes

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common def would be like seara lionel tesa/theo

forest stone Jun 12, 2024, 4:05 AM

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are there any good replacements for seara?

neat cargo Jun 12, 2024, 4:06 AM

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he's just a stripper

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as long as you fill in all the other requirements

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#1048719420870107227

forest stone Jun 12, 2024, 4:06 AM

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right

forest stone Jun 12, 2024, 8:30 AM

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(ignore) Bruisering in arena

forest stone Jun 13, 2024, 7:46 PM

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@neat cargo Could I have your thoughts on picks?

neat cargo Jun 13, 2024, 7:53 PM

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you cant use dot offense against stuff like feng woosa, plus if you do use it you always bring 2 strips

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if you're fighting sav a lot with feng vela aaliyah its worth considering putting vela and aaliyah on high def builds to greatly reduce chance of getting def broken by sav

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for your fight against dark ciri eshir misty you need a kunite

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and tetra or racuni would be better than shushu

forest stone Jun 13, 2024, 8:01 PM

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neat cargo if you're fighting sav a lot with feng vela aaliyah its worth considering puttin...

if you have high defense you can't get defense broken by sav?

neat cargo Jun 13, 2024, 8:01 PM

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yes

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if your def is greater than her attack

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its not unreasonable for def based units like vela and aaliyah

forest stone Jun 13, 2024, 8:03 PM

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oh i see, its part of sav's skill not how defense breaks work normally

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thanks

forest stone Jun 14, 2024, 8:54 PM

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forest stone Jun 26, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Making a louise/minato/nora defense. Should minato be on vio or vampire?

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Or is it a meh defense overall? I saw it on swgt and it has a lot of core def thing like “random” defense break from minato, strip on nora and 2 threats (minato,nora), but I still feel like its a weak defense

neat cargo Jun 27, 2024, 1:09 AM

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Not a good defense at all

forest stone Jun 27, 2024, 1:13 AM

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neat cargo Not a good defense at all

Im just trying to build a wgb defense around nora but i really have an idea of what units to use around her. I don’t have chandra or dominic, the two units that seem to be used with her almost exclusively for any good defense. Do you have any suggestions on specific 4* units that may work

neat cargo Jun 27, 2024, 1:16 AM

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I don’t know what your other defs are

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Follow basic template of spd lead stripper bruiser

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Nora is the stripper

forest stone Jun 27, 2024, 1:20 AM

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None of my defenses are set in stone and ive just been experimenting with what works and what doesnt. I was thinking something like x nora byungchul for one defense but i dont have chandra and the only other water spd lead is mihyang. Shes being used for the last slot defense which has been spd tuned for that specific def for siege

neat cargo Jun 27, 2024, 1:22 AM

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You can do carc Nora byung

forest stone Jun 27, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Its ok that it violates the “dont stack” elements rule?

neat cargo Jun 27, 2024, 1:23 AM

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It’s fine

forest stone Jun 27, 2024, 1:23 AM

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Ok

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:13 AM

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@neat cargo does this fit the spd lead/stripper/bruiser set up?

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:16 AM

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yea but those monsters are not great

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:17 AM

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mm

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ok

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@neat cargo can i get an opinion on this defense list

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:41 AM

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first 2 aren't good but work on them 1 at a time

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:46 AM

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What are your thoughts on seara orion perna?

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:47 AM

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better than what you have

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is your swarfarm updated?

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:48 AM

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yes

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:49 AM

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you need to stop worrying about having 5 defs

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start with worrying about having 1 good def

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nothing looks like you've followed anything in #1048719420870107227

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or maybe you read it and decided it didn't apply to you. or maybe you read it and you aren't actually ready for pvp yet

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this game is about runes

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:55 AM

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neat cargo nothing looks like you've followed anything in <#1048719420870107227>

can you elaborate on this more? I do read it a lot and refer to it when trying to get better. I've built a fat lushen team for arena and I use your diagrams on which monster to build up next to expand my toolbox of monsters. Is it my rune quality thats putting you off?

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:56 AM

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yea

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which one do you think is your best

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lets start with that

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:56 AM

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my best runed monsters?

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:56 AM

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your best def

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:57 AM

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i dont really have one, my defenses have been losing

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i guess my fengyan/aaliyah/velajuel bc its been put in the most by my siegemates but its currently 10/22

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:57 AM

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which one do you want to work on first

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ok that one doesn't count because its not even a def

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:58 AM

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clara/theomars/iunu seems like the most manageable one

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because all ive been farming is giants and passively farming vio from events

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 5:59 AM

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not which one is most manageable

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ok if you were to remove all your defs in siege

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except for 1

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which one would you keep

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and i guess if you want to do the feng thats fine too, we can make a def around feng

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 5:59 AM

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fengyan is cool

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i like feng yan

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 6:00 AM

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he's not amazing but he's usable so w/e

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 6:00 AM

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my 2nd option would be seara/orion/perna then

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 6:00 AM

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your seara isn't even skilled

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your perna is not done either

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you're months away from running that def

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 6:01 AM

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so... a 4* defense that i can skill up?

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my mihyang / cichlid / eshir

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 6:03 AM

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can you skill up cichlid?

forest stone Jun 28, 2024, 6:03 AM

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im working on it

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i have her set as one of the sp summons

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so i can get there soon?

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at least to the one where it gives 100% harmful effect rate

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or i can use the devilmons from the event

neat cargo Jun 28, 2024, 6:07 AM

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ok the point is i just want to work on one def at a time

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you can pick what the def is

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make sure its something you can fully skill up entirely

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