#Struggling in 70f ToA Hard

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minor zealot
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any recommendations?

pastel juniper
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?toa

minor zealot
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should i get mav or nah?

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because i dont have him

pastel juniper
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yes u should be building mav

minor zealot
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helppp

inland oasis
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which unit dies first?

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if its fran, switch spectra out shannon in

minor zealot
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i already did that

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i think fran also died first

inland oasis
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your monsters' crit rate must be very low, 20% or below so that u dont trigger the passive

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use shannon's S3 right before dark martial cats' atb is full

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only veromos is exempt from low CR

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specifically, shannon + mellia must be low due to AoE

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and fran needs to be tanky enough if she keeps dying too early despite shannon's def buff

minor zealot
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aight ill try

minor zealot
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@inland oasis it seems like it takes 2 healer

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i replace mav with riley

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and heal whenever it needed

minor zealot
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helppp, i always die in the first floor

inland oasis
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cc the unstunned ones

minor zealot
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wdym

inland oasis
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keep the atb of death knights as low as possible

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especially arnold, he can easily nuke your mav

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and fedora, for his immunity buff

minor zealot
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everytime i nuke arnold, someone revived him noooo

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idk man

inland oasis
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briand redistributes their health to the revived monster and heals them

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just need to outdamage them if you are unable to keep all 5 monsters atb low, which you should be able to with vero s2, spectra s3 + loren

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fran as well

snow yarrow
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I failed to auto but then I clicked on the boss and it worked.

minor zealot
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when on wave 3, who should u kill first? the archangel or the boss? cuz i died when i attack the boss first

tight lake
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AA's ideally but you should be able to cc them with mav provoke, vero stun, loren atb slow (prioritizing juilanne if his atb gets too high)

minor zealot
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how come Julianne's health recovers over and over even tho i burst himm

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i guess i can hold his dmg long enough until 1 of my DPS died

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but whyyy

kindred abyss
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read his skills

minor zealot
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what should i play? is it dps or continuous dmg?

inland oasis
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just full on dps, vero fran mav loren spectra

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def break arta, make sure julianne's atb dont reach full

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his passive heals him by absorbing artas' health, so at 1 point his passive wouldnt trigger since arta wouldn't have enough health

minor zealot
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so kill arta first

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then julliane?

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i find mav useless ngl

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trying to sub him with another stun like tyron

pastel juniper
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mav's strenth is his utility

inland oasis
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mav's s3 is very useful

minor zealot
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ya i know it reduces cd but idk man

inland oasis
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and s2 can provoke to aggro 1 arta so that your vero can survive

pastel juniper
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also self heal

minor zealot
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trying a team like this: tyron fran vero spectra and bella

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but im struggling in defeating julliane

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wdyt

kindred abyss
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we think you should use the recommended team

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it's in the ?toa command

minor zealot
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ya i tried but it didn't worked

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so i tryna find new teams beside that and analyzing the opponent

pastel juniper
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there are 3 things this comes down to:

  1. team issue
  2. rune issue
  3. player issue

i will put it quite frankly, this is more than likely 2 and 3

minor zealot
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thanks for the advice tho

pastel juniper
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this isnt even close to the hardest of toa floors either

tight lake
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yea the death knights are harder than the actual boss stage itself tbh

inland oasis
wind patio
minor zealot
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you're talking to me or nRuri?

wind patio
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whoever that video is

inland oasis
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i accidentally made my mav too fast, still farming to replace runes to slow him down although i just auto toah nowadays

wind patio
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i'm pretty sure you can just auto this stage if your team is built properly

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even when you are a <1 week old player doing this for the first time

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if you need to manual it

inland oasis
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i was showing OP the strat i use to clear this stage cause OP was stuck, but i kind of made a bunch of mistakes

wind patio
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it helps if you read their skills

wind patio
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the video is detrimental

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you should kill the artas before julianne. you can't kill julianne first, read his passive. you do more damage if you simply just kill the artas rather than repeatedly killing him to drain the artas

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it's perfectly fine to let julianne move

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he doesn't do crazy amounts of damage, and will always target vero who should be pretty tanky

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if you want to reduce the damage you take

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the most important thing is to stun the artas

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and to keep the artas def broken

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the artas will auto counter ever time you crit. but their attacks scale with def

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so if you def break them, they do less damage

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if you stun them, they can't counter at all

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the first hting you did in the video was to throw a mav s1 into julianne, which is dumb because you can't stun the boss but you can stun the artas

minor zealot
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i love the advice, people keep saying 'follow beginner, ? toa and everything' oof like the guide says to create a help post 😭

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thankyou very much @wind patio its very helpful

wind patio
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it sounds helpful

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but what actually would be more helpful to you overall

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is if you fix how your units are runed

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i'm serious, you should be able to completely auto this

minor zealot
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yeaa im working on the rune

wind patio
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there is no rush to finish toah

minor zealot
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smth im following many guides so im confused

wind patio
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fixing your units and learning how to rune your units properly is essential to you learning this game and completing all other content

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in the big picture, toa is a very minor part of this game

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learning how to deal with this stage of toa in particular is much less important than just learning how to rune your monsters properly

minor zealot
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aightt very well noted sir

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thank you very much, That's very kind of you

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sometimes i follow the stats according to the guide and still got defeated

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so i ask here

wind patio
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if you're asking here you need to show your stats

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?statshare

limpid plumeBOT
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When sharing monster stats, take a screenshot from the monster storage building rather than the monster menu. This lets you show stats, rune sets, and skillups all in 1 image.
https://imgur.com/bmhiJGs

wind patio
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you may think you're following the stats according to the guide but most likely you are still not