#gbah team help

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visual chasm
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returning player and I am trying to make the shannon bella spectra vero and kro team. does bella and shannon just want to go first 2 and so they want 120k+ ehp as well? plus the 45 acc. that should be all that I want on them?

dire apex
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should be mentioned in the turn order of ?gbah. that sounds about right

gusty glade
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?acc

sick trenchBOT
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Accuracy Benchmarks

0% - Rift beasts
15% - Raids/Predator
25% - SF10/PC10
35% - GBAH/NBAH/SR10/Dimensional Hole
40% - Labyrinth Hell bosses
45% - ToA Normal & Hard
55% - GB10/NB10/ToA Hell
65% - DBAH/DB10
85% - PVP Bomber/Debuffer

for detailed information type ?accuracy in #bot-commands or read https://redd.it/4hw8da

gusty glade
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gbah just needs 35

visual chasm
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Why is gb10 acc way higher then gbah huh interesting

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The / between 2 monsters just mean either or can go first right?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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Ok great. Just noticed i have whomie just not fully finished should I get whomie skills finished first before I put more time into bella for gbah?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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Time to build a wind beast team

visual chasm
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when it says this does this mean I want atleast my other slot to be atk%?

gusty glade
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that means slot 2 or 6 could be hp%

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but you should be realistically get att/cd/att since your returning

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remember you get 3k free hp from 2 hp artifacts (total)

visual chasm
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right

visual chasm
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Can I use this for questions about wind beast team or do i need to make a new forum based on wind beast?

gusty glade
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can also ask here, yes

visual chasm
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ok so verde do i follow the damage dealer stats that is under raidstats or does he want different stats specifically?

gusty glade
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he would be a dmg dealer

visual chasm
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ok so him being slow but hard hitting is good for wind beast got it. also what exactly does +200% atk mean? like 200% increase of the monsters base atk stat?

gusty glade
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yes 200% of base

visual chasm
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if i am doing math right is that just triple the base value then?

astral wadiBOT
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Base

HP: 9885 — DEF: 505
ATK: 812 — SPD: 99
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 0 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Attack
Stars: 5
Devils: 8
Farmable: Fusion or GS
Fusion Food: Yes

Awaken

From: Vampire
To: Imperfect Vampire

Lead

Increase the Attack Speed of ally monsters in the Dungeons by 28%

gusty glade
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so simply its just 812x3 should be yr total

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or 812 + 812x2

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when u look at it in-game

visual chasm
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got it thanks

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oh right farming artifacts for atk ones would help with that huh

gusty glade
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att artifacts let you have more ehp substats on runes
hp/def artifacts let you have more dmg substas on runes

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would look at it like that

visual chasm
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got it ok thanks

visual chasm
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for bella in wind beasts I am assuming the stats she wants is just the gbah version of her?

gusty glade
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correct

visual chasm
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low cr is what exactly? 15 crit?

gusty glade
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ideally, yes

visual chasm
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ok if i did this right, then this looks ideal right?

gusty glade
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?swopshare

sick trenchBOT
gusty glade
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me eyes are bad

visual chasm
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my bad

astral wadiBOT
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Here are your builds.

#1 Violent

SPD,DEF%,DEF%

HP: 16827
DEF: 1527
ATK: 1183
SPD: 208
CR: 15%
CD: 61%
ACC: 4%
RES: 31%
E.HP: 109114
Effcy: 70.53%

#2 Violent

SPD,DEF%,DEF%

HP: 16050
DEF: 1511
ATK: 997
SPD: 207
CR: 15%
CD: 62%
ACC: 8%
RES: 31%
E.HP: 103177
Effcy: 65.29%

gusty glade
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pretty much = builds

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would go with the one though with higher att

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and ehp

visual chasm
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ok great thanks

astral wadiBOT
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Here is your build.

Mav
#1 Violent

SPD,DEF%,DEF%

HP: 16278
DEF: 1311
ATK: 942
SPD: 206
CR: 15%
CD: 63%
ACC: 46%
RES: 38%
E.HP: 93248
Effcy: 65.71%

visual chasm
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this should be fine if i farm 2 def artifacts to get his defense to 1500 right?

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any other build that has 1500 def is making him 220ish speed and this one is the slowest one

gusty glade
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oh you are not at the correct hp on these

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should be +15k not 15k total

visual chasm
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ah ok

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let me go change that then oof

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hms ok yeah cant get them to have +15k hp with the amount of def needed on top of it. hms guess i need to farm gbah before I can finish building fran and mav for wind beast

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because i am returning and i have 2a bella does that hurt me for wind beast?

gusty glade
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no, would only theoretically hurt you if u used bella in pcah

visual chasm
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got it

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so i got A+ in wind beast with that team. not sure if that is worthwhile to farm as how my FL aren't finish but haven't seen if it is consisted

gusty glade
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it is not

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just putting this out there
fran and mav dont have to be vio (should be =/= have to be), wind rift is going to be the most difficult to SSS and have you read ?whomie

visual chasm
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ah

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looking at the water rift team i got the twins built and kro. so should i go for hrae or a ling ling?

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i have neither built

gusty glade
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then you goal should be ?sfah

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first

visual chasm
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ok great thank you

modern mantle
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hey, im following the ?justdoit command and it talks about certain set of runes i get from certain achievement but i just come back so idk which set is which, is there a stats requirement instead?

gusty glade
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listed in #1049393485372993567 and next time please make a new thread

visual chasm
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doing 30 runs of gbah to just get more runes and I guess 79mins to get through it with the shannon bella spectra vero kro team isn't the worst right? fastest I gotten was 2:14 mins and avg around 2:29.

gusty glade
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seems about right

visual chasm
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ok great thanks

gusty glade
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no, u can keep that out of this thread

visual chasm
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So for the selective nat 5 event I see jx9 list of top 10 how should i go around choosing one of them?

formal heron
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They are in order of priority. Each has a description of where it is used. Work down the list, but if something is geared toward content you don’t want to do, move to the next one

visual chasm
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Ok great thank you

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Leo it is. Been wanting him as he seem interesting kinda glad he top of the list

dire apex
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keep in mind you're not really usign them until you finish beginner guides anyway. u could always just wait too until the events almost expire in case you pull something

visual chasm
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You right i probably should do that then. Because I don’t think I’ve heard of dupe Leos being used

dire apex
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theres very few nat 5s that u want a dupe of

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and most of the time theyre usually for siege

visual chasm
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Ah ok got it

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So i choose light kung fu girl as my hoh should i try to get as high as possible and use the extras as skillups for ling ling?

dire apex
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sure you could, ling ling doesnt rlly need skilups tho

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can save it for smth else

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the skillups are fuseable anyways

visual chasm
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Ok cool thanks

visual chasm
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for water rift would the twin version or the one with ardella verde be better?

dire apex
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u can use both and drop verde

visual chasm
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oh so twins ardella kro for bl then

dire apex
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I almost run the same team but water kfg instead of ardella

visual chasm
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ah i see ok. well do you think ardella or ling ling be better in that slot? for twins

dire apex
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uh, u should just follow the guide's team

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twins is fine to put in instead of verde and u should have kro in still ideally

tiny fossil
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ardella is a insane unit for what she is

dire apex
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yeah she's really good

visual chasm
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yeah i more meant twins kro for back line and then should i either use ardella or ling ling for final slot as the guide says hrae/ling ling with twins but noticed people use ardella instead as well

dire apex
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it's kinda old bc people had hrae built back then for old giants/siege probably. and ling ling is normally runed fast but u'd build her kinda damagey

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twins + kro + ardella would be much better and you can rebuild lingling to be fast instead

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that way she goes first in sfah and it works out more consistent

visual chasm
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ah i see ok cool thank you

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i would just need to build a ardella and i am assuming i need to 2a her?

dire apex
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ardella has no 2a

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but yeah

visual chasm
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oh lol my bad thought it did

dire apex
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maybe eventually, the rest of the team is kinda garbage

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apart from bethony

visual chasm
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ardella is used more then just water beast im assuming?

dire apex
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wind too and sr5 as well

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look at the rift beast guides

visual chasm
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got it thanks

astral wadiBOT
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Here is your build.

#1 Energy

SPD,CRate,HP%

HP: 20476
DEF: 1119
ATK: 1204
SPD: 225
CR: 101%
CD: 57%
ACC: 10%
RES: 23%
E.HP: 103536
Effcy: 78.57%

visual chasm
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looking at building her for the sfah and this seems like the best one I can do with high speed and ehp with the 100crit

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assuming im not ready for sfah yet if i cant get her to 135k ehp

scenic solar
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make her slower

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she doesn't have to go first for beginner team

visual chasm
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Oh ok great

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So like 140ish or so

gusty glade
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there is a note mentioning this in ?sfah

visual chasm
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got it thanks

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so did 20 matches of water beast and 15 were sss that seems decent assuming i want to get that to like 17 out of 20 huh

gusty glade
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what were the other 5?

visual chasm
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A+

gusty glade
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do want that at 90% or higher

visual chasm
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got it

visual chasm
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ok so out of 60 runs only 3 weren't SSS. One was SS and the other two were A+ that seems way better right?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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So i have a extra water mage should i feed it to nana as skillups or use it for crystals?

gusty glade
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you'll never feed a nat 5 for skill ups

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it'll always either go for ?ancientcrystals or used as a siege dupe

visual chasm
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Ah I see ok. Good to know. Do you know if Nana is a monster i want a dupe for siege?

gusty glade
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@scenic solar nana not worth having multiple of for siege, correct

scenic solar
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correct

visual chasm
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Ok thanks crystal time

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For the ancient crystals with the 6* legend rune do the free rerolls ever refresh?

gusty glade
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once a week

visual chasm
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Thank you

visual chasm
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so for the summoner welcome event i got to event 4 which is to summon default 4* monsters that are basic elements. should i use sstones to see what to get next?

dire apex
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yea but the event lasts forever so theres no hurry

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astar prob most important for nbah prog, but if you're not even close then don't worry

visual chasm
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ok thanks

dire apex
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use the event only if you can pick and make use of them asap, like if you're able to rune for them to progress

visual chasm
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So got water homunculus to max skills and got the reset skill scroll. This is where I reset him and go for wind right?

gusty glade
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yes

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?whomie

sick trenchBOT
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  • Making Your First Homunculus:
  • Will start by upgrading the water homie and evolve its skill tree (doesn't matter which you pick). This is due to the fact Water Rift will be your first 100% SSS rift.
  • Once Water Homies skill tree is fully evolved, you will receive a refund coupon to reset its element and skill tree (this is where you follow the below image)

https://i.imgur.com/1xVmfyQ.png

visual chasm
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Ok great thanks. Does he need skillups?

gusty glade
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not till the spd teams

visual chasm
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Got it

visual chasm
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I was trying to see where else lapis is use but if im right only fire rift beast after getting out of super early pve right?

gusty glade
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correct

visual chasm
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Ok great makes it easier to rune her then

visual chasm
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does shannon need accuracy for gbah?

scenic solar
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yes

visual chasm
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hms I was thinking of just redoing my toa team but more felt like getting a auto team but I am assuming I want to be able to do toah consistent before i go for a auto team for toan?

visual chasm
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also going to rune gally now to drop shannon. should i just derune shannon at this point? unless I am missing another use she has

torn stream
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you never derune any monster recommended in PvE parts of #guides

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you'll be using shannon for ?sr5 as well

visual chasm
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got it

visual chasm
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In the sr5 picture if im correct darion isnt 2a and shannon isnt as well but shannon stays as a 5* for sr5 still?

visual chasm
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Ok so following the sr5 guide i got my extra cleansers being wind harg and undine and I also got one of my dds being skogul but I am missing one final dd and not sure who to go for

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Oh actually I could use hwa as she is already 6* max meaning only one I need to get 6* is the harg

stiff belfry
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Make a screenshot of the team

visual chasm
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Not all of them will be built with runes yet but ok

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Thinking something like this?

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I could also drop shannon and add my bastet as well

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Which is a better def then skoguls as well

stiff belfry
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You could yeah, Skogul is also a frontline unit

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Id swap water KFG with the Fire Rakshasha too since she can proc off the teamups

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But this should be more than fine I think, only way to know for sure is to run it and see

visual chasm
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True. Ill do that when I get them runed up. Would you say swap wind harg and skogul around then?

stiff belfry
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No you need harg for cleanse

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Honestly Id replace skogul at that point for a backline damage dealer and use wind harg leader

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Wind harg is also defense lead

visual chasm
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Oh i was more saying have wind harg in backline and make skogul fl

stiff belfry
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you want a cleanser regardless and wind harg is that

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and to put wind harg in the back is just a waste because he wont do any damage anyway

gusty glade
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could just switch skogul with a dmg dealer from team 2, and then put him frontline and fran backline

visual chasm
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Got it

visual chasm
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this is gbah with gally added to the team. I am assuming losing once isn't good?

exotic iron
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Preface: I'm not qualified to give help, just sharing my own experience. The teams and requirements from the guides are very well made I have done 300+ runs with their teams and I never failed once.

gusty glade
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see why its failing

visual chasm
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wondering if its my kro

astral wadiBOT
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Here is the requested monster.

Full views:
#1 Kro

#1 Energy

ATK%, CDmg, ATK%

HP: 20729
DEF: 976
ATK: 2026
SPD: 162
CR: 79%
CD: 141%
ACC: 13%
RES: 27%
EHP: 94441
Effcy: 80.54%

gusty glade
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that CR is pretty unacceptable

visual chasm
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I think his cr became low because i tried putting him on atk cd atk

visual chasm
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so fixed kros cr to 100 and did two 30 runs no fails but then now out of nowhere i failed 3 to 4 times in my next 40 to 50 runs

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trying to do individual runs just to see if I can tell what is going wrong

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so I think my issue is my units are dying now that I got no heals or def buff and or sometimes the giant doesnt get a def break till way later into it

gusty glade
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show whole team

astral wadiBOT
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Mizuwolfie doesn't have this team. :(

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Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'slots')

visual chasm
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am i doing something stupid?

astral wadiBOT
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Here is the requested monster.

Full views:
#1 Kro

#1 Energy

ATK%, CDmg, ATK%

HP: 20001
DEF: 993
ATK: 2010
SPD: 162
CR: 100%
CD: 144%
ACC: 26%
RES: 27%
EHP: 92314
Effcy: 86.33%

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Here is the requested monster.

Full views:
#1 Galleon

#1

SPD, CRate, HP%

HP: 26649
DEF: 916
ATK: 956
SPD: 186
CR: 103%
CD: 75%
ACC: 35%
RES: 15%
EHP: 115816
Effcy: 77.34%

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Here is the requested monster.

Full views:
#1 Veromos

#1 Fatal

SPD, CDmg, DEF%

HP: 19211
DEF: 1459
ATK: 1169
SPD: 176
CR: 105%
CD: 140%
ACC: 48%
RES: 15%
EHP: 120001
Effcy: 79.22%

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Here is the requested monster.

Full views:
#1 Spectra

#1

SPD, CDmg, HP%

HP: 22907
DEF: 1172
ATK: 876
SPD: 184
CR: 101%
CD: 149%
ACC: 46%
RES: 22%
EHP: 120078
Effcy: 81.07%

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Mizuwolfie doesn't have this monster. :(

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Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'slots')

visual chasm
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homunculus is weird

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this is wind homun

torn stream
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your whomie needs a lot more atk

visual chasm
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I see im assuming that might not be only reason im failing tho

gusty glade
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not all ehp is the same, example is yr vero who has a ton of def but then lower on hp, meaning when boss def breaks him and hits, he get obliterated by the giant

galleon s1 and s3 maxed?
vero and spectra deviled?
galleon going on vio
make things more tanky/dmg

visual chasm
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Vero and spectra are deviled and galleon is maxed

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So make gally on vio?

visual chasm
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Should i devil wind homun?

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Also just got a dupe water valkyria does she have use or make her into ancient crystal?

pearl dragon
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one of the best dupes you can have for siege

visual chasm
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oh shit ok thanks

visual chasm
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So i have astar already and everyone else on the sstone list who should i grab for the nat 4 welcome event thing

formal heron
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Wait until you need a monster that you don’t have, or need a dupe that you only have one copy of. The event doesn’t expire

visual chasm
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ok thanks

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so I'm doing more runs now that I put vero on 6 slot hp instead of def and gally on vio. i lost 2 runs in 42 runs and checked at what point I lost and it says wave 4.

visual chasm
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ok so i max skilled wind homu and that seems to have made my gbah 100% because I've yet to lose in 78 runs

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with my runes I am assuming it probably just be better to follow the toah team to complete for once right?

gusty glade
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wait yr wind homie didnt have his skills fully evolved?

gusty glade
visual chasm
visual chasm
visual chasm
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Are the light water and dark cat used anymore?

scenic solar
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why do you need to ask this question

visual chasm
scenic solar
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Not relevant

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The guides tell tell you which units to use, if not mentioned then you don’t use them

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Every single unit the guides recommend is an end game unit. There are no temporary or stepping stone units. There is nothing that you can have built already that renders a guide unit obsolete

visual chasm
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Got it

visual chasm
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I was looking at the dhole guide and next on my list is between lulu and kahli any tips on who to choose?

sinful pond
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either is fine. Both are primarily pvp. So if your Dhole energy is capped, just make either one for when you move to pvp

visual chasm
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Got it thanks

soft pawn
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does wind ifrit replace teshar in giants?

sinful pond
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this is not your thread. Ffr make your own thread for questions
Wind Ifrit doesn't replace anything. His best use is storage

soft pawn
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oh I see, thank you!

visual chasm
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For kahli dhole should I rune her?

sinful pond
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yes

visual chasm
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Give her a attacker build right? Atk cd atk with 100 crit?

visual chasm
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umm whats the minimum speed I want for kahli for dhole?

visual chasm
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gonna be doing 2a lulu dhole now and was wondering what is the difference between if i choose mav or 2a vigor for the team?

scenic solar
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use vigor

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the difference is that if you follow normal progression you get a 2a lulu before vigor

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so you dont have vigor yet when you're doing 2a lulu

visual chasm
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Ah ok makes sense. Yeah i had vigor already 2a since more then a year ago. Thanks

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how should i rune vigor and lulu for dhole btw? spd hp hp for lulu? and vigor same as well?

dire apex
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lulu's runed exactly as fl cleanser in ?sr5 and vigor you can just rune spd/hp/hp without chasing specific stats other than spd/hp at first

visual chasm
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ok thanks

visual chasm
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hms copying the build from swop isnt working weird

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does this look fine for 2a vigor?

gusty glade
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there's an extra space in there

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u dont need that much acc, only 35%

visual chasm
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So drop acc to 35

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Is 200 spd fine?

gusty glade
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can make faster with that hp

visual chasm
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Ok

gusty glade
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jx has an example of his in #1166120830921621504

visual chasm
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Ty

visual chasm
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I was wondering how I build shamann for dhole?

gusty glade
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for?

visual chasm
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For i can get him 2aed

gusty glade
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can just build according to ?nbah or just tanky

visual chasm
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Ah ok ty

visual chasm
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Would 2alulu be better than colleen there for healing?

gusty glade
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colleen gives att buff and break

visual chasm
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got it

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i ended up running vero on spd hp hp and he has 100 cr for gbah so hopefully it goes well i did try it with him on spd cd hp but it wasnt consistent

gusty glade
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u can always drop, and lose the hp lead

visual chasm
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true I would need to get another fl tanker right?

astral wadiBOT
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Base

HP: 10710 — DEF: 758
ATK: 670 — SPD: 100
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 25 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Support
Stars: 6
Devils: 11
Farmable: Fusion

Awaken

From: Ifrit

Lead

Increase the HP of ally monsters by 33%

gusty glade
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though shouldnt be all that hard to get him the req'ed def for frontline and tanky on slot 4 CD

visual chasm
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ah ok

visual chasm
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if im right I want to make my sr5 100% consistent to make it worth farming right?

gusty glade
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99%

visual chasm
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if im struggling to make things fast and tanky for pve like fl cleansers or even vio cleansers or 100 res cleansers that means i should farm more gbah before I continue onto more content right?

dire apex
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you can farm R4 to get some grinds on your runes

visual chasm
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what is the reason we dont upgrade light tower till after guild towers?

scenic solar
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it doesn't matter you'll finish all in a week anyway

visual chasm
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ok

visual chasm
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i am assuming combat spd in nbah is capped at 169?

sinful pond
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130 for boss, rest works the same as normal dungeons. Midboss has 164 speed if I recall correctly.

visual chasm
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where do i get the type artifacts for like hp support etc

torn stream
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punisher's crypt

visual chasm
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ah that makes sense thank you

visual chasm
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does mav need to be fast for fl rift beasts? just noticed he is too fast to use him in toa

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nvm just checked the command and for some reason mine is +111

dire apex
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he just needs to be only around 200 spd, but slowest on the team so he can buff. its' ok if he's faster than your dds in rifts since theyll be around 169 combat spd but for toah he should be the slowest on the team

gusty glade
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he stats are mentioned in ?riftstats

visual chasm
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I can't understand why I lost 1 run out of nowhere in my gbah I didn't change anything other then vero got 2 spd faster and tankier but the runs were still consistent. From looks of it they just die at boss stage sometimes and lose

gusty glade
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you may get one in a blue moon, just happens with multiple 15% landing in a row

visual chasm
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ah ok so just bad rng at that point got it

gusty glade
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basically a whole bunch has to fail for the team to fail (miss atb pushback, missed att break, missed def break, def breaks landing on you)

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so u end up 99.9% success rate

visual chasm
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yep sounds about right

visual chasm
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we use vero lead skill for toa team right?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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ok great. Question would the team be able to auto toan if my runes are good enough?

gusty glade
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will do most stages with 0 input

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sometimes you have to click boss once

visual chasm
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got it cool

visual chasm
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Imma assume autoing toah like I autoed toan is going to be alot more difficult?

gusty glade
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should take a little longer but overall may have to restart a couple floors

visual chasm
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Got it and toamale is easier for toah right?

gusty glade
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very

visual chasm
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So i should try and finish toah in these few days before reset oof

gusty glade
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should be plenty of time

visual chasm
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should i take this or try and get higher spd and cr roll?

formal heron
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Keep going. There’s like 45 more days

visual chasm
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Am i allowed to ask pvp related questions here or should i make a forum post thing specifically when I have pvp questions?

dire apex
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you can reuse your thread for pvp questions

visual chasm
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ok great question so I been using psama bastet bernard lushen as my ao and was wondering how exactly do I rune psama?

dire apex
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will 2x nem

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about 100+ spd, rest cr/atk/cd

visual chasm
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does psama want to be fully deviled?

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also how exactly is a fat lushen built? slow and tanky with dmg or is it slow and just alot of dmg?

visual chasm
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for 2aicaru does he need attack and crit at all? or is he just 35 acc 169 comb spd and the def that he needs?

torn stream
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lushen is slow + 100% cr rest atk+cd

scenic solar
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its concerning when you mix in basic pve questions with pvp questions

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what are you working on

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also your questions have no context

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everything in this game is built for specific purposes and never in general

visual chasm
# scenic solar what are you working on

yeah my bad. I am going to start working on 2aing icaru so I wanted to see how to build him. I just wanted to improve my runes for my ao that I just use to do arena wins.

scenic solar
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nono

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when you get asked what you're working on

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the answer is some area of the game

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not some monster

visual chasm
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ah fair. I believe getting a consistent sr5 is my current section that I am working in.

scenic solar
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you are very very lost

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why are you 2aing icaru

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if you are working on sr5?

visual chasm
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it's the next monster on the 2a list so I was going to do him next

scenic solar
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ok if you're just trying to use up dhole energy that's fine. but it doesn't matter how you build him then

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and you are very far from worrying about psama or lushen

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if you want to do arena you set 1 monster fodder def and trade wins with similar players

visual chasm
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Oh I see ok

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thank you

visual chasm
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so looking at the sr5 command and trying to improve one of my teams would anavel or ariel be better then delphoi for healing and cleanser as well as a fl tank?

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also another question I made my vero tankier for sr5 fl but it made him faster then spectra in my gbah team. is that fine or should I make spectra faster to go second?

scenic solar
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read the command again and you tell me

visual vector
visual chasm
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Ok yeah guess that was obvious

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About the sr5 cleanser question any suggestions?

scenic solar
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read the command again and you tell me

visual chasm
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my bad

visual chasm
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So what I was thinking was dropping delphoi for anavel or ariel for more heal and cleansing but not sure

gusty glade
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but why, do u think they are better than delphoi

visual chasm
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before I answer that because I am not sure if delphoi s2 works in r5. does the increased cooldown work on the bosses?

gusty glade
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no, but what is a cleansers job

visual chasm
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to cleanse the team

gusty glade
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what is a frontline tanks job

visual chasm
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survive and tank dmg

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which is where I was wondering if I could get like ariel for more heals and tankiness maybe ontop with his cleanse? but wanted to ask before I just change stuff around

gusty glade
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so u then have to waste devilmon?

visual chasm
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right because I need the cleansers max skilled on its cleansing skill and due to im not at a pvp lvl building a pvp unit just for cleansing isnt worth it. got it

visual chasm
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Oh actual question about my first team on the left. Is it better to get water death knight to drop wind harg and move bastet or bella to back line? because I am assuming I can't drop both bastet and wind harg due to bastet is there for atk buff because she took shannon spot and water dk would be for cleanser?

visual vector
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Is your bastet built?

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i.e skilled up

gusty glade
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drop bastet, move raviti frontline, add hraes backline (or other aoe att buffer dd)

visual chasm
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Hraes or other aoe atk buffing dd got it

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Would the reason be more dmg would kill it faster meaning it can be more consistent because dying faster before losing?

gusty glade
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she's just not needed outside of her att buff in this case, and if u can do it with a monster that also does damage, why not do that instead

visual chasm
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Got it

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I don’t have hraes built but i have one somewhere but before i build him what ate other options as well?

gusty glade
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kahli

visual chasm
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Oh I actually have kahli 2a and near lvl40

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And then i just follow the dd stats to rune her right?

gusty glade
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yes

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but at 200 spd, as u want buffs up before other dd's

visual chasm
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got it

visual chasm
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So reading the reapp command this is a great reapp target?

formal heron
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Yes one of the best possible

visual chasm
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Got this

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Not sure if the roll into cr makes it great tho but could change acc into atk%?

gusty glade
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its done, what gets gemmed then depends on what it goes on

visual chasm
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Ok got it

visual chasm
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I was trying to finish the advanced challenges but stuck on the one that says get 1300 arena points. Should I just wait till I finish all my pve teams and stuff before going for that?

torn stream
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you can just attack easy defenses with what units u currently have

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like 1 monster defenses/fodder

gusty glade
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?arenamission

sick trenchBOT
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To complete the mission from Summoner's Way that requires you to get 1300 points in arena, you simply have to regularly use your arena wings. You get a new arena wing every 30 minutes, and overall arena activity at this level is low enough that you should be able to outpace the losses from getting hit no matter how bad your defense is. If you can get close (for example, ~1250 points), it's worth spending 30 crystals for an arena wing refresh to finish this mission.

It is absolutely not worth it to build any arena offense team for this. No matter what monsters you have it will not be successful since you do not have any runes for them. You just need to hunt for easy defenses to beat using whatever PvE monsters you have, such as Fran Loren Vero Lapis. It is normal that you can only hit 1 or 2 defs out of the 10 defs you see from each list. You can refresh the arena list every 2 minutes, and you can even manually close/restart the game to "instantly" refresh this list at no cost.

It is absolutely not worth it to build any arena defense for this. If you want you can also use random PvE monsters for a defense but personally I find it easier to use a defense of an unruned level 1 slime. This lets you "trade" easy attacks with other players with similar easy defs via revenges.

visual chasm
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Ah ok ty

visual chasm
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ok I got it thank you

visual chasm
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so when rolling runes and let say it is a purple where all 3 sub stats are good do i just lvl it up to +9 and see how it rolled then sell it or roll it one by one

gusty glade
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+3/+6/+9/+12 at each interval u evaluate if this still has potential or not

visual chasm
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got it

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thank you ace

visual chasm
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does lapis want skill ups?

gusty glade
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she doesnt need them

visual chasm
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ok cool. just making sure. 2aing icaru so i can start making my team for pcah

visual chasm
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Question about the pcah teams. What is up with the choices for replacing 2akro with elsha fuco or pang?

gusty glade
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kro works but requires more to work as he needs to be tanky (boss is light) and needs to do dmg, so its typicall easier to use pang/fuco instead

visual chasm
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Got it thank you

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Are fuco and pang there actual name or abbreviations?

gusty glade
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actual name

astral wadiBOT
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Base

HP: 9885 — DEF: 582
ATK: 736 — SPD: 104
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 25 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Attack
Stars: 5
Devils: 10
Farmable: No

Awaken

From: Rakshasa

Lead

Increase the Critical Rate of ally monsters by 19%

visual chasm
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for 2aicaru for the 3301 total defense I know it gonna be def% for slot 2 4 6 and assuming rest of the defense is in substats?

gusty glade
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yes mainly coming from slot 3 and 5

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cuz well, cant have on slot 1

visual chasm
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right

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does that mean he wants guard? i believe guard is def increasing stats right?

gusty glade
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i mean, that could be a possibility that you may get a def% guard rune from a reward that works for him

visual chasm
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got it cool

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does having the defense tower change the amount of defense needed?

gusty glade
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yes

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thats an extra 20-25% def accounted for, forgot the exact %

visual chasm
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when looking at runes and the + are the artifacts already considered into the numbers shown while looking at my runes?

gusty glade
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yes artifacts would be, if equipped

visual chasm
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got it cool

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I guess the easiest way to see if my icaru has the right defense is to go into a scenario with 3 other monsters and see if he pulls all 3 of them?

gusty glade
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caiross 5% bonus doesnt work in scenario

visual chasm
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oh ok

gusty glade
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but yes, that would be a way

visual chasm
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if it works it should be 2a icaru plus 3 teammates?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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can you not use immorial grindstones on ancient runes?

gusty glade
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no

visual chasm
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I'm dumb thouhgt it was 3100 def not 3301 def oof

visual chasm
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i been told different things in rant brag but should i gem out the flat atk or crit dmg? and for what?

gusty glade
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CD for most likely def%, but remember ?whattogem

visual chasm
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ah ok got it thanks

visual chasm
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Who should I get?

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It ending in 16 hours or so. Can’t get the last 4

dire apex
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uh, maybe fire onmy but what's your interest in?

visual chasm
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later down the line I probably want to get into rta

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after i finish the beginner stuff and get better runes

dire apex
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I think I'd take fire onmy then

visual chasm
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ok thanks

visual chasm
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question if Im correct and read the commands right 2aicaru doesnt need cr for pcah right?

gusty glade
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correct

visual chasm
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ok cool ty

visual chasm
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is this a sell?

gusty glade
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yes

visual chasm
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rune wise

gusty glade
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would say easier

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since he's already typically built like a bruiser for other content

visual chasm
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got it

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ok I'll just do that then because I'm locking myself out trying to build kahli still

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thank you

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does hrae want the skill ups?

gusty glade
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can work without but u do want to

astral wadiBOT
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1. Penalty

Attacks the enemy with an axe to inflict 2 Continuous Damage effects for 1 turn with a 50% chance.

Levels

Damage +5%
Damage +5%
Effect Rate +10%
Damage +10%
Damage +10%

Multiplier

3.8*{ATK}

2. Wrathful Attack

Attacks an enemy with a wrathful axe, leaving a Branding Effect for 2 turns, and increasing your Attack Bar by 50%. The target with the Branding Effect will receive 25% increased damage. (Reusable in 3 turns)

Levels

Damage +5%
Damage +10%
Damage +10%
Cooltime Turn -1

Multiplier

6.2*{ATK}

3. Resentment

Becomes possessed with unstoppable rage and attacks all enemies. Increases the Attack Power and Attack Speed of all allies for 2 turns. Goes under [Berserk] state for 3 turns afterwards. Under Berserk state, the Defense is decreased by 30%, damage dealt to enemies is increased by 100%, Attack Speed is increased by 20% and HP is recovered by 10% of the damage dealt. (Reusable in 4 turns)

Levels

Damage +10%
Damage +10%
Cooltime Turn -1

Multiplier

2.1*{ATK}

gusty glade
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more dmg (dont really build with high CD but more grindables) and cooldowns on s2/s3

visual chasm
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also with you saying bruiser is he built on like spd hp hp or spd cd hp?

gusty glade
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the latter

visual chasm
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got it

visual chasm
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he wants the same speed of 200 right?

gusty glade
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ya as he's going to be yr att buffer

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or really just between supports and yr other dmg dealers

visual chasm
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Would you reapp this?