#Usual speed ticks for bruisers?

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midnight sleet
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It's usually 239 for support, 205 or 239 for damage, so what about bruiser?

dawn viper
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don't try to make generalizations

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ask about a specific team and we'll be happy to give recommendations

midnight sleet
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That's, uhm, pretty hard tbh

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Say

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I want to build a Khmun

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Which is actually the only one I have for now

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So it's gonna be a Khmun for usual bruisering

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Who I'll pick when I think "I need fire damage to kill this def"

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He's not going to be in any fixed offense for bruisering, is he?

dawn viper
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doesn't have to be 1 fixed team, but you should have an idea of the common monsters you'll use him with

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and yes you should consider this and tune him appropriately

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it is hard

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that's a big part of skill expression in this game

midnight sleet
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Ok so

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Lemme think

dawn viper
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always remember the mindset and approach for building new stuff

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figure out exactly what you want to beat first

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don't build new monsters just because

midnight sleet
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Say I want to beat a def with a big Xing Zhe

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And say a Khmun as well

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I'll pick Windy Khmunl +1 whatever fire dd I can fit in, probably Carc if he isn't used yet

dawn viper
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don't imagine pieces of it

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open up your siege or wgb

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pick out a specific def

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if you dont have an active siege or wgb, look at defs from your guildies

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i'll let you think about it

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i have various monsters of all archetypes on 205 tick, 239 tick, and 286 tick

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some monsters that are part of cleave teams aren't on any tick (and yes khmun can be a part of those too, like spd lead for lushen)

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you can also have monsters on +0 spd to use with leo

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don't worry that if we're discussing a specific def then it won't be very relevant because you may never see that def again or something

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it just gives you a concrete starting point and you expand your knowledge from there

midnight sleet
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Can't even find proper def in f level

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But at least this one look like he has some effort

dawn viper
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not a bad team there in terms of using correct elements. would have liked to see a healer like racuni/colleen/lala instead of carc or kahli though

midnight sleet
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Yep

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But I didn't have much choice then

dawn viper
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if you were to use khmun here as damage instead of carc/kahli

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this typical kind of bruiser team i think you should aim for 239 tick

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with khmun moving last

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moving last is good because he's your source of dmg (so maybe you have a def breaker or buffer that goes in front him), and also so that when he gives someone shield they don't have a chance to immediately proc it away

midnight sleet
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Probably a bit too hard

dawn viper
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what do you mean too hard

midnight sleet
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Windy will always move last

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Unless I stop giving him tank runes

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But I think I get the idea