#questions and questions

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icy cloak
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i think next level will be speed

devout onyx
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at 15% speed max vero has 100 + 15 spd + 42 from slot 1 putting him at 157 spd if my napkin math is right

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you only need 23 speed from the other 5 runes

icy cloak
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uhh alright let me check my runes

devout onyx
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so yea if you can get him the required stats in upgrade 1, then you work on kro next and then after that you do step 2 which is to swap darion with spectra

icy cloak
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ight

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right

devout onyx
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galleon doesnt come until team 4

icy cloak
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ok here so i have uhh

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oh wait let me finish toa 30 im autoplaying right now

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do you reckon if i do the rune thing

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the auto apply

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it'll give me what i need

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probably not

devout onyx
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no

icy cloak
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ugh

devout onyx
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don't use that

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it prioritizes sets over stats

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it's trash

icy cloak
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i hate manually scavenging through runes

devout onyx
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are you using the rune manager?

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it's pretty helpful

icy cloak
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yeah

devout onyx
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you could try using SWOP if you're on mobile or use an emulator

icy cloak
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how would swop help

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isnt that a bot

calm sable
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runing monsters is pretty much the entire game

icy cloak
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lol its a huge part of it for sure

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@devout onyx is there a way to make it so you can only see one type of mainstat

devout onyx
# icy cloak isnt that a bot

no it's just a separate program that basically assembles rune builds for you based on what you have, it's helpful. you do need to use a separate tool to get the game info via .json

icy cloak
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so e.g % hp on 6

devout onyx
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it's self explanatory, what part is confusing

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when i say rune manager do you actually know what I mean

icy cloak
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you go to rune

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then you go to manage

devout onyx
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b/c you click a monster, click the runes tab, then there's a whole icon

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yeah

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so at the top left there are drop menu buttons that let you filter the runes you want

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slot X, then main stat, can even filter for the properties you are looking

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etc

icy cloak
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ahhh i just had a really good rune but i got a shitty roll on it

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tragic

devout onyx
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thats the game

icy cloak
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it had crit chance but stayed on 4

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instead of ugrading

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@devout onyx so wait you say stats over sets

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because this gives me what i need i think

devout onyx
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you don't need to ping me btw

icy cloak
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right my bad you're on dnd so

devout onyx
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yeah that's fine

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you would just have to make up the speed in other runes

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play around with the runes and see what stats you can get

icy cloak
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i have 142 speed..

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yeah ill have to play around

devout onyx
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if you can't meet the stats, then you don't have to force him a cr build and just keep farming

icy cloak
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i think i have some pretty solid options

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but i need the blue stones and i have absolutely zero

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not quite sure how im supposed to farm them either

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i need to see what rolls i get

devout onyx
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mostly just from selling bad runes

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the events give a lot of mana stones too

icy cloak
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i think he meets the stats now

valid dirgeBOT
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120185 ehp. Deffbroken: 54637 ehp.

icy cloak
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100% crit

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53% accuracy

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183 speed

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kro is next i suppose

icy cloak
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?sfah

feral mothBOT
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Steel Fortress Abyss (Hard)

  • Teams and Turn Order:
  1. Ling ling > Loren > Fran (L) > 2aRaoq > 2aKro (1:00-1:30)
  2. Ling ling > Lushen (L) > Loren > Fran > Brandia/2aKro (45-50 seconds)
  3. Ling ling > Lushen > Loren > Eirgar (L) > Brandia/2aKro (35-40 seconds)
  • Requirements:

  • Ling ling: SPD/(CR/CD)/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 240+ cmb spd, 35% acc

  • Fran: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd

  • Loren: SPD/HP/DEF, 135k EHP, 239+ cmb spd, 45% acc

  • 2aRaoq: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 169 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc

  • 2aKro/Brandia: ATT/CD/ATT, 100k EHP, 100% CR, 169 cmb spd

  • Eirgar: SPD/CD/(HP-ATT), 135k EHP, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, 35% acc

  • Lushen: ATT/CD/ATT, 200 cmb spd, 100% CR, Must 1 shot waves without attack buff

  • Other Info:

  • Monsters with same cmb spd requirements, see turn order above

  • Artifacts used depends on what the monster needs, EHP (hp/def) or DMG (att)

  • Ling should be on some sort of dmg build, CD is ideal while CR works as well

  • For team 3 Loren can be slower than Eirgar if it fit with your other teams

  • Team 3 reaches a 99.5% success rate, if you want it 99.9%, use team 2

icy cloak
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oh hell nah

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?toa

feral mothBOT
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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE

Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta ?akroma ?ragleo

  • First ToaN (normal) team will consists of the ?justdoit team which is Veromos, Fran, Shannon, Loren and Lapis

  • ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Vero, Mav (wind penguin), Fran and 2 of these units below depending on floor

  • 2aSpectra, Melia, Loren

  • [Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Fran] - Violent-Swift/Any SPD/DEF/HP, Def Artifacts, 200 SPD

  • See ?riftstats for an idea of hp/def requirements

  • [Mellia] - Despair-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆, faster than mav

  • [2aSpectra] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/HP, 100% CR, HP/DEF artifacts, 45% acc, 120K+ EHP

  • [Loren] - Swift/Any, SPD/DEF/HP, HP/Def Artifacts, 45% acc, 200 SPD

  • [Veromos and Shannon] are runed as they are for ?gbah

Additional Info

  • If you are not sure of what a monster does, don't be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do. This is the time you learn what monsters do.
  • Will start to be able to auto more floors as your monster runes improve otherwise manual the floors
  • Mellia is the only monster who doesnt need skill ups, the others see ?qstart and ?devilmon .
  • Use in Anti-Crit stages (Jultan/Kumae and Art)
  • Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages.
  • 45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
  • Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does.
icy cloak
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can gbah give violent runes

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i dont think ive gotten any from gbah

bronze lodge
icy cloak
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so how am i supposed to get

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violent runes

icy cloak
bronze lodge
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u get from events

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and from dragons

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but u dont need vio till after pve

icy cloak
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says

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?riftsraa

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?riftstats

feral mothBOT
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Rift Beast Stats

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Monsters used depends on which rift your doing

  • Frontline: Fran and Mav will Frontline for all rifts

  • 90% SSS rate can be considered acceptable to farm

  • Fran - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.5k def, +15k hp, 200 spd, low CR, 2 def artifacts

  • Fran does want some ATT but this comes after meeting minimum req's above

  • Mav - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.5k def, +15k hp, 180 spd, 45% acc, low CR, 2 def artifacts

  • Fran should be on Vio, get enough free Vio runes to make this happen

  • Mav can be on vio also but if he cant, then use what gets him the required stats

  • The accuracy and CR requirements are for ?toa , as accuracy in rift beast is not important

  • Lapis - [SPD-ATT]/CD/ATT, 180 SPD after Speed Tower, 85% CR, balance of ATT/CD, attack artifacts

  • Can reuse some of the free +15 vamp runes from ?farmer as a base, slot 2 should be switched to speed

  • Focusing more on ATT/CD from runes can allow you to use HP artifacts so she's not too squishy still for faimon farming

  • Hraesvelg - [SPD-ATT]/CD/[ATT-HP], 90k eHP, fastest DD, 70+ CR, balance of ATK/CD)

  • Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 140 SPD, 100% CR, balance of ATK/CD and stats needed for ?gbah , NOT on violent

  • Twins - see Damage Dealer below

  • if using talia lead, CR can drop to 76%

  • **Damage Dealers **- ATT/CD/ATT 140+ spd, 100% CR

  • Minimum of +200% attack and 170 CD, Artifacts (ATT/ATT)

  • Ardella only needs 75% CR due to passive to reach 100% CR

icy cloak
bronze lodge
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Mav can be on vio also but if he cant, then use what gets him the required stats

icy cloak
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i accidentally 6 starred my shannon

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is this the end of the world

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or is it whatever

devout onyx
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not really its just spilled milk but its fine

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6*ing is easy to come by anyways

icy cloak
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should i use him if hes not in the guide

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i think hes pretty good

devout onyx
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gz on ld5 but no i would not, nat5s are not used in pve so same applies

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what is it?

icy cloak
granite lintel
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dark Sea Emperor? Storage

icy cloak
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?sssrift

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?rift

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?whomie

feral mothBOT
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  • Making Your First Homunculus:
  • Will start by upgrading the water homie and evolve its skill tree (doesn't matter which you pick). This is due to the fact Water Rift will be your first 100% SSS rift.
  • Once Water Homies skill tree is fully evolved, you will receive a refund coupon to reset its element and skill tree (this is where you follow the below image)

https://i.imgur.com/1xVmfyQ.png

icy cloak
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my first sss is fire

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i still cant beat water

calm glen
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why are u building whomie

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before doing rifts?

frank current
austere spruce
frank current
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what

austere spruce
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what about that statement was not clear

frank current
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everything

austere spruce
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  • not yr thread, so do not post your question on it
  • go make your own thread to ask your questions
frank current
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not everyone knows how this discord works

icy cloak
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i already have one

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not a wind homie

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just a water homie

calm glen
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If you are following the guide

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You see how it's recommend doing teams for rift dungeons first

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Then going for whomie

icy cloak
icy cloak
icy cloak
calm sable
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#1166120830921621504

icy cloak
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is it gonna have a big negative impact

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or not really

calm sable
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its fine. doesn't hurt you

icy cloak
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so ive just about gotten ebery possible monster from the summoners nat 4 event

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which one should i pick? i already have galleon

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?ss4

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?sstones

feral mothBOT
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Top 4 in no particular order

  • Galleon - greatly helps speed up GBAH (unless you have Teshar) which is super important because that's the only rune dungeon you should be farming for the entirety of PvE, and also still extremely valuable for PvP.
  • Sabrina + Talia - even more important than before because now they're good in DBAH and NBAH too. On top of being ideal for Rifts + Raids + still used in siege offense. If you get 1 of the 2 water twins early on, this option is highly recommended.
  • Astar - NBAH is the hardest PvE content in the game, and she is one of the best monsters for it. She's also useful for monster subjugation, SD farming, speed clearing of ToAN, and time limit stages in Lab. Consider her if you're struggling with the NBAH stage of progression.

Next few options:

  • Lushen - still most important PvP nat 4, although now is not really used at all in PvE
  • Triana - best monster in the game for siege
  • Khmun - useful in some dhole dungeons and siege
  • Carc - required in dhole raids and siege
  • Abigail - another ideal monster for Necro, but a bit less versatile than Astar
  • Tyron - used for ToA Hell, if you build him for ToA Normal or Hard then you are doing something wrong

Use ?ssinfo in #bot-commands for more information.

icy cloak
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i have galleon i have sabrina and talia

urban viper
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do you need any nat 4s right now for progression? if you dont just wait till you need one

icy cloak
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errr

urban viper
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that event wont go away so dont worry

icy cloak
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i dont think i need any right now..?

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im gonna speed up gbah a bit then try toa hard

urban viper
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just wait then

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till you need one you will have summoned more scrolls, may even get what you need from those

icy cloak
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fair enough i guess

calm glen
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Are you at a stage where uou are working on rifts or Nbah_

icy cloak
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im on rifts i suppose

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and toa hard

calm glen
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Follow progression

brittle flare
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is there a way to get wind penguin other than summoning with ms

snow scarab
bronze lodge
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Guild ms shop iirc

snow scarab
bronze lodge
icy cloak
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so

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im doing toa hard rn

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i think im a bit stuck on floor 60

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ive been playing around with my guys

snow scarab
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are you stuck at boss stage?

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once i freeze the adds it seems doable

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but i would use spectra2a over verd, and maybe bella over loren, but you'll have to test

icy cloak
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my spectra is runed horrendously though

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ive gotten really bad luck on runes

icy cloak
snow scarab
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yeah if freeze don't land, and vero misses stun

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the revenge from 4 of the adds will likely kill you haha

icy cloak
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rng some times i guess

snow scarab
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yup, early game it's like that, either get more tanky to survive more turns, or more acc do make sure the cc lands the first time

austere spruce
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why are verde and tyron being used?

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this stage is doen with vero fran mav loren 2aspectra

austere spruce
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this is done in upgrade step 2 in ?gbah

icy cloak
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ive done gbah like

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hella times

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still not getting what i need

austere spruce
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then do more

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that is what this game is

icy cloak
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lol true

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i mean ive been lazy ive been doing fine without him but i do suppose i should make him stronger

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he'll be useful

austere spruce
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if u wanna be lazy, u can post in #off-meta-fun

icy cloak
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but then i use another team and average faster times

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idk

austere spruce
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then u can do what u want, but then u go to #off-meta-fun

icy cloak
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well i wouldn't say it's off meta though

austere spruce
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is it in #guides ?

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if not, then yes, its #off-meta-fun

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that simple

royal oracle
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?ssinfo

feral mothBOT
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If you have all the monsters in ?sstones, you can consider the following Nat4s (in no particular order, primarily PVP):

Skogul, Kaki, Delphoi, Chloe, Malaka, Sian, Olivia, Garo, Shimitae, Nat4 Skillups (ex. Anubis for Khmun), Duplicates for Siege (ex. Lushen, Khmun, Skogul, Triana).

bronze lodge
icy cloak
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what about stage 66..?

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these big ass vikings keep kicking my ass

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whats the strat for this one

austere spruce
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anti-crit stage

icy cloak
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or do you mean their team is anti crit

austere spruce
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a stage u drop loren and add in mellia

icy cloak
austere spruce
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or drop spectra add mellia

icy cloak
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mellia mav fran spektra kro..?

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with fran lead or what

austere spruce
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where are u getting kro

icy cloak
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uhh

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veromos?

icy cloak
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obviously i plan on waiting until the end of the event

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but are any of these lookin good so far

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i dont plan on picking now just curious

calm sable
icy cloak
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not exactly idle chat

granite lintel
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you have 6 left

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its worth asking when done. if not done, its just idle chitchat

icy cloak
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rest of pirate family except galleon is useless right? i can feed to him for skillups?

granite lintel
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keep one of each, rest is skill up for galleon

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standard ?monsterrule stuff basically

icy cloak
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?devilmon

feral mothBOT
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For New Players

  • Veromos > Spectra 2A > Vigor 2A > Raoq 2A
  • Galleon if used on your gbah team (S1 and s3)
  • Save the rest of your devilmon until ?progression is finished and you are ready to start PvP

✥ Nat 5★ monsters are generally prioritized with devilmon. However, there are 4★ monsters which require skill-ups and are worth devilmoning ASAP (for example, galleon for 100% harmful effect rate on S3). For more information about this, check the 4* skillup part of #1048719420870107227 .

icy cloak
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im uhh kinda stuck on this stage

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leo just keeps on one shotting my dudes basically

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any suggestions

austere spruce
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verde moving means everyone gains atb
spectra using s3 while immuniy is up does nothing to yr team
leo moving while he's missing hp means he can start doing big dmg

vero fran mav loren spectra

icy cloak
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i kill the verdehiles first

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then the spectras

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and then go for leo?

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with vero fran mav loren spectra

austere spruce
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u cc and control the non-cc'ed

icy cloak
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right

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while targettinf the verdehiles tho

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alrighty ill give it a shot

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vero lead for hp? or fran for speed

austere spruce
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there is never a time yr using another lead

icy cloak
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oh lol

austere spruce
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other than vero

icy cloak
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gotcha

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well ill let ya know how it goes

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imma try what u say

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@austere spruce question

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so ill use mav but

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dont mav and uhh that one light paladin

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do similar things?

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they both have a taunt and cc right

austere spruce
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no

icy cloak
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whats the difference

austere spruce
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?

icy cloak
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between mav and the light paladin

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just out of curiosity

austere spruce
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they arent slightly similar

icy cloak
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idk ive only been playing like a month im still a noob

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to me i see taunt

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and i see cc

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on both

austere spruce
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u can put jeanne in storage and forget it

icy cloak
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lol alright

icy cloak
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hes still kinda like not tanking

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is it the artifacts?

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or do they not really matter

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maybe im just having bad rng

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my veromos is getting blown up too

austere spruce
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mav should be very close to his ?riftstats build at this point in time

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yr vero should be on his step 1 upgrade from ?gbah

icy cloak
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ok i won it just took a few attempts

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onto floor 100 baby

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!toamale

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!toamalegender

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!toaguy

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!toaman

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?toamale

feral mothBOT
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ToA Male Boss Guide

  • Team

  • Vero (L), 2aSpectra, Fran, Loren, Shannon/Mav

  • Use ?toa in #bot-commands for information on builds for the monsters in this team.

  • Boss Info

  • Male boss is much easier than the Female counterpart.

  • All you have to do is prevent the boss and right crystal from taking turns with ATB reduction while you kill the boss, Fran S1, Loren and Vero S2.

  • Only attack the boss with your damage dealers (Vero/2aSpectra) and loren, and redirect other basic attacks to the right crystal to prevent the boss from revenging a lot.

  • Ignore the left crystal. The Heal block from it isn't a threat since the boss shouldn't be taking a turn and Vero can just cleanse it anyway.

icy cloak
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@austere spruce i dont even bother with toa hell right

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im not supposed to yet?

austere spruce
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correct

icy cloak
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so now im at the point where

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ive cleared toa hard

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my gbah team is relatively fast

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i have a sfah team

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and i can sss all beasts at a pretty high rate

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do i just work on my homunculus now?

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i have a water one which upon maxing i turn it to wind right?

austere spruce
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correct

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and yes

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since yr next step is sr5 and that is going to take planning and runes to be able to do

icy cloak
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whats sr5 again

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is it the thinf with the big boss

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and u got like 3 or 4 teams or somethibg

austere spruce
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why cant u be doing both at the same time, working on making wind homie for gbah and putting together yr sr5 team

icy cloak
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how hard can sr5 be though let me see here

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?sr5

feral mothBOT
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Solo Raid 5 (SR5)

  • First Solo Raid 5 Team: follow info graph at the bottom of this command/this imgur link: https://ibb.co/S7ZSjC2

  • More information can be found in the Beginner Playthrough in #1048681073502068917

  • If you need help with filling in your team, you can post in #1047269577614164098 with a screenshot of what YOU think your team will look like, before we will help make corrections to it.

~~For advanced players owning both Fria & Hwa https://imgur.com/bd5hNoQ ~~ This is an older version of a glass cannon SR5 team.

Image image in SW Beginner Progression Summary album

icy cloak
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oh some are nat 4s and 5s i dont have tho

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ill make it work

icy cloak
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@austere spruce question

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does it matter?

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or not really

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since im resetting him for wind anyway

austere spruce
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no as your going to be changing it when u switch it to wind

icy cloak
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so if i understand cortectly

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upon maxing all skills

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the game gives me a free reset?

austere spruce
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yes, where u have yr daily challenges, the other tab will give you a reset coupon

icy cloak
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gotcha

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and err

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why do you recommend starting with water and not just straight wind?

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is there any benefits?

austere spruce
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as its going to more than likely be yr first 100% SSS rift

icy cloak
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oh i see

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but i can do all of them

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my first was fire ironically

austere spruce
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and as u see water homie, takes more water crystals than other crystals

icy cloak
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gotcha

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i also have an uhh

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female homunculus

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lifht support one

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is that not important for now

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do i just ignore her

austere spruce
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just put in storage, will become useful when u start doing toaLL

icy cloak
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is LL hell mode u mean?

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whats Ll

austere spruce
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yes, h e double hockey sticks, spells hell, so its toaLL

lean lagoon
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how can i build my dark monster that i crafted from rift beast

feral mothBOT
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aceatall

[Message Link](#1217211214011306056 message) to #1217211214011306056
just put in storage, will become useful when u start doing toaLL

icy cloak
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?whomie

feral mothBOT
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  • Making Your First Homunculus:
  • Will start by upgrading the water homie and evolve its skill tree (doesn't matter which you pick). This is due to the fact Water Rift will be your first 100% SSS rift.
  • Once Water Homies skill tree is fully evolved, you will receive a refund coupon to reset its element and skill tree (this is where you follow the below image)

https://i.imgur.com/1xVmfyQ.png

icy cloak
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@austere spruce this lookin good?

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is there info on how to rune him and stuff

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?whomierunes

devout onyx
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plz don't ping people, just ask questions

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yes that path looks fine. rune whomie like any other dd

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ehp, 85% cr, some cd/atk. mentioned in ?gbah

icy cloak
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he hasnt told me to stop

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if he did i would

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so u dont gotta white knight for him

icy cloak
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sounds good

devout onyx
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i'm not speaking for his behalf. it's just common courtesy bc this is still a public thread and anyone can answer for you. pinging someone means you hold them accountable to answer as if they only can

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and i would be upset if someone pinged me to answer a question that they couldve had it answered if they read what the command says

icy cloak
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listen man im not tryna argue but keyword is YOU

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you might get upset and he might not

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im not holding him accountable; but he's the one whose helped me the most so hes the one i lean towards

austere spruce
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its fine, stats mentioned in ?gbah

lean lagoon
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What about the dark version?

bronze lodge
icy cloak
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does anyone know what time i should be averaging with this team?

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ive built it and im just curious if its as fast as it should he

austere spruce
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with team 4?

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1-1:30

icy cloak
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should i move onto ?kylegbah

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im tesharless

austere spruce
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if you are done with #guides and can build the team

icy cloak
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i still need a pcah team

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a necro team

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a dragons team

austere spruce
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then, no

icy cloak
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ok

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oh right

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u said i had to do sr5 or something i forgot

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gotta do that too

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@austere spruce yo dude

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u know how u need eirgar for some teams i forgot

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the 5 star vampire guy

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so im at 80/100 for him

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and i dont have any more coins

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do i just have to wait for the next event??

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i only need like 20 more fragments

austere spruce
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yes

celest wren
icy cloak
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but i'm pretty sure i don't have it but it's worth a check regardless

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: (

celest wren
icy cloak
icy cloak
icy cloak
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if i get a dupe 5 star

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there's a way to like convert into some sort of essence and get another 5 star right?

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how do you do that again? where's that option?

austere spruce
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?ancientcrystals

feral mothBOT
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What to buy with your ancient crystals:
Will start by saying a lot of this is dependent on a lot of factors and changes often. Some of these factors including but are not limited to: how progressed, how many ancient crystals one has, and how much one spends on the game
If you have a question on if you should buy something or not can create a thread in #1047269577614164098

  • Premium Runes:

  • These are going to be Vio slot 2 SPD, slot 4 HP%/CD and slot 6 HP% Runes with acceptable innate (prefix)

  • Substats do not matter as these runes are more than likely key reappraisal (reapp) targets

  • To see what are acceptable innates (prefix) see the ?reapp command

  • Save enough to buy 2 or more of these runes (200 ancient crystals)

  • Other things that could be bought:

  • Desirable runes may include: Vio slot 4 or 6 HP% with no innate and matching subs and slot 2/4/6 with innate and matching stats on a needed sets

  • Reappraisal Stones/Devilmon: Limted to 30 reapps and 3 devilmon per month

  • Legend Grind/Gems: Vio SPD/HP%/DEF% Gems and Vio/Swift SPD Grinds, or another set a late game players may need

  • Not going to be buying these unless you specifically know what your searching for or need

  • LD Scrolls: unless a whale or have high nat 5 income, these wont be bought ever

  • Whale: Those that spend quite a bit of money on the game

  • Blessing: horrible value and should NEVER be bought

  • There are multiple balance patches a year and just because a monster is good/bad now doesnt mean that will be the case later on

icy cloak
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so should i not reroll into 5 stars

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and bu premium runes instead?

austere spruce
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like it says, a horrible value

icy cloak
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i see i see

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so buy vio slot 2 spd

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and uhh

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ok

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thanks

icy cloak
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so

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my rune inventory is full

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and i already got rid of all the flat 2,4,6s

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and now im not sure what to get rid of?

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theyre all 6 star runes i have left

austere spruce
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rune section in #1166120830921621504

#1048710794373771326

icy cloak
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is there any recommended hall of hero teams? i can never get past like floor 5

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?hallofheroes

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?hoh

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Monster announced Wednesday after FRR, starts weekend after FRR.
Push to the highest floor you can manage. Take advantage of friend reps. You can buy almighty pieces from the guild shop to summon more monsters (Has to be between floors, 25 almighty per floor/mon).

Speed and crowd control are key in HOH; you can use your ToA monsters to get through the stages.

Anniversary HOH based on previous HOH, check https://summonerswar.fandom.com/wiki/Hall_of_Heroes#List_of_past_monsters for oldest 5 HOH that were not repeated yet.

icy cloak
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toa monsters hmm ok

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i have been using em

icy cloak
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still cant make it to 6

austere spruce
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just stop posting in here

austere spruce
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does your toa team ever change

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can it be optimized

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ive been beating toa hard with the recommended team in the guide

austere spruce
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does it change during #guides , no not really

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u do improve runes

icy cloak
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ah so mayhaps when improving runes i can make it further in hoh then

austere spruce
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after #guides is when u might add/remove things you have built for pvp

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yes

icy cloak
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gotcha

icy cloak
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errr who is this

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i dont have them built i dont think

valid dirgeBOT
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Base

HP: 7575 — DEF: 461
ATK: 845 — SPD: 105
CR: 15 — CD: 50
ACC: 0 — RES: 15

Info

Type: Attack
Stars: 4
Devils: 10
Farmable: SD
Fusion Food: Yes

Awaken

From: Magical Archer

Lead

Increase the Attack Power of ally monsters with Wind attribute by 35%

icy cloak
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and does kona wanna be 2a'd? i remember reading that for certain teams its better not to or something

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i dont remember

austere spruce
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kona doesnt have a 2a

icy cloak
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i mean just awakenedp

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csuse sometimes u want it not awakened for it to go 2nd or something

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?kylegbah

feral mothBOT
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or is that for something else

austere spruce
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bellla during progression, incase you need for pcah?

icy cloak
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ok so awaken it gotcha

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getting the 3 guys at the back might be an issue though let me think

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thats liam right? i think i have him

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then i guess i'll use verdehile and uhhh idk

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i hve the fire monkey too i think

austere spruce
icy cloak
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so should i use verdehile and the two twins? i have them built

austere spruce
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what is the 2nd bulletpoint of the ?sr5 command?

icy cloak
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a screenshot of what the team will look like..?