#offense/defense combo for g1 siege (struggling 1:9)

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onyx geode
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#1048719420870107227

latent hedge
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oh wow ive never seen that channel, thanks!

latent hedge
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That was a very in-depth guide, I’m looking for help on something more specific, what units&teams are on commonly used/specific combos for the current siege meta

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For example like the galleon tiana CP combo

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I want to focus my runes on some go to offense comp that could would be great against multiple defense

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Or something like a tractor lulu malite windy

latent hedge
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offense/defense combo for g1 siege (struggling 1:9)

onyx geode
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the guide is not outdated in any way

latent hedge
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Yeah it isn’t, I was wondering which are some go to units like windy malite

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And specific nat5s that are worth investing

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There are a few fixed offense I had that aren’t winning lately,
Such as bolv woosa moling/icares

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Perhaps I should try to cleave more in g1?

onyx geode
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sounds like you didn't actually read the guide at all

latent hedge
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Hm I’ll go back to go again after I got home I spent 30 min on the siege offense defense part

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And the September update

latent hedge
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yeah sorry you did gone over the list i somewhat missed it prolly cause all these units are fully accessible

unknown.png
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i have a decent collection of nat 5s i was thinking if that can be my advantage and build specific nat 5s for offense/defense

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@onyx geode can i still upload my unit onto swfarm? i heard is dead

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i figured that be better than me posting screenshots is really messy

onyx geode
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you missed the part about how to work on siege though

proper urchinBOT
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diliskar

[Message Link](#1048719420870107227 message) to #1048719420870107227
How to decide what to build next

It can be daunting looking at all the dozens of different units and teams I've listed out and wondering what to work on first or what to work on next. Other than setting up your Lushen team first, I purposely didn't list out any sort of order of building PvP or siege units. Since nat 5's are in play here and even nat 4's can be elusive for awhile, not everyone is going to have the same box and it's impossible to recommend any sort of set order.

My advice would simply be to decide what to build next based on your own need. For example, when you are in a siege and look through the enemy defs and see something you have no idea how to beat, ask for counters/suggestions, then build those monsters next. A lot of people may initially not like this approach since they think they just want to build 10 siege offense teams and be done with it, and may think that building a specific counter to a specific def is too niche and wasteful. But this isn't how siege works at all. Siege is more like building a toolbox of different options. As you improve, your toolbox gets bigger and you can handle more and more different defs, and handle them more reliably. The higher up you go, the less you should be relying on your presets/siege decks, and the more you should be putting together a "custom" offense against each def you hit. This becomes even more true when you factor in balance patches that occur every 2 months which can and will change the meta.

When anyone competent recommends you a specific counter to a specific def, you can trust that the specific monsters they are recommending will be versatile ones that will always be useful in various other teams. Even if you never see that specific def again, you will be able to use those monsters to counter something else relevant in each siege.

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latent hedge
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i went over siege offence/defense but didnt see it

onyx geode
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there's a lot of stuff scattered around

latent hedge
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ok i guess i wont be able to find answer to copybut ill have to experiment and test for myself

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i was looking for like go to comp for offense/defense

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like a team thats good against odin bastet and some other meta defense

covert finch
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have you asked why

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and you have way to many siege defenses (should only have 2 to 3)

siege offenses depend on what the defenses your facing are, so to build a siege offense req' knowing what its going to be facing

covert finch
latent hedge
onyx geode
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anyway i dont think this thread is going to go anywhere

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you are not really ready to work on pvp yet or at least these aren't things that you can be helped with within a few messages or suggestions

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if you truly want to learn

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show that you are ready by

  1. completely finishing pve first
  2. read carefully through #1048719420870107227
  3. then come back with SPECIFIC questions. for example "how do i hit khmun odin bastet" or "here is 1 siege def i'm working on, here's my ideas and builds for all 3 of these monsters what do you think?" work on 1 thing at a time, none of this is stuff you can learn or improve quickly on
latent hedge
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okay so i need to be more specific and more timesink

onyx geode
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so far literally every single question you have asked has been addressed directly in #1048719420870107227

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either with an outright answer, or with an explanation of why the question you asked is a bad question and has no answer

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i dont know what you mean by timesink

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it's called playing and learning the game

latent hedge
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it introduced tricking AI with attribute and running cr slot 4, i somewhat understand that you are basically telling me to not run a fixed specific team

latent hedge
onyx geode
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you're asking how to run before you know how to walk

latent hedge
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but the past week ive been invested everything into the dragon speed team which lead to a few of the units be missing runes

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like i would find a defense that i can katarina or one that i can lushen

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i dont put 3 units together on the spot thikning i have to beat that defense i just yield and find one thats cleavable

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i always thought thats how g1 suppose to be

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sorry if that was disturbing

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i was looking for prebuilt teams that are good against defense of current meta

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i havent start to log the siege battles so i dont have specific examples, what I need help with was, what are the go-to 3 units from my box that works the best against this meta defense, then I will invest on those 3 units. Gotto wait till next siege starts

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but pretty much there are strong units for siege like you mentioned in beginner pvp such as windy malite that are great against multiple defense, i would focus on those units first

onyx geode
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that's fine. work on it.

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you can come back in a month

latent hedge
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kk thanks for sticking around