warped stratus
Hello guys, i have returned to play again. After reading the progression guide, i started to build the gbah team. the thing is my team runs at 4 min average. my gb10 team runs on 1:10 min average. So what should i go for? maybe someone can help me with a better team?
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63% blue rune rate in gb10
53% purple rune rate in gbah
farm gbah and then look at ways to improve it from the ?gbah command
warped stratus
?gbah
alpine mapleBOT
WIP Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)
For beginners, see ?justdoit2 . This command focuses on improvements on the team after the team has been built. See ?justdoit2stats for an estimate of minimum stats.
Average times vary depending on runes.
Teams:
Team 1: Sigmarus (L), Veromos, Belladeon, Darion, Shannon
Average time: 2:00-4:10
Team 2: Sigmarus (L), Veromos, Belladeon, Mav, Shannon
Average time: 2:30-3:30
Stats to aim for:
Sigmarus, Veromos: 110k eHP, 179 SPD, 100% CR, 35% acc and rest CDMG
Shannon: Fastest on team,
Mav: Follow?toa build.
Improving your times
Higher damage on Sigmarus/Veromos.
dry sphinxBOT
15072 ehp. Deffbroken: 7133 ehp.
warped stratus
When i read a stat for example 179 speed, does it mean without tower or is it all in all stat?
plain cape
this is with tower
warped stratus
oh ok thx
warped stratus
how do i count the leader stats for example 44%. does it count on every mon and the leader, or does it only count on the other mon?
ripe frigate
It counts for all mons
For example a 21% crit rate lead will give everyone 21% more cr
warped stratus
for example if i chose sigmarus, he will also get 44% hp in dungeons?
plain cape
yes
warped stratus
this is my team and it is failing, can someone help?
plain cape
those dont look like the specific rune sets mentioned to use in ?justdoit2
?justdoit2stats
alpine mapleBOT
warped stratus
it is 14,5%
warped stratus
those dont look like the specific rune sets mentioned to use in `?justdoit2`
yeah but they also say, stats>set
warped stratus
?
minor star
Your thinking that he said sets as in swift vio and so on
plain cape
hold up
minor star
The only reason they are full sets is cus it’s what the game gives you and what works
plain cape
the sets for the justdoit2 team are specific sets that the game gives you for free
?justdoit2
alpine mapleBOT
warped stratus
what if i don't have them anymore?
plain cape
then u done fked up
warped stratus
nice
plain cape
#1049393485372993567 has the pictures of all the runes stated above
if you collected and not sure which are which
warped stratus
yeah, but i think i just sold some of them
plain cape
then you better go look to see if you can repurchase them back
alpine mapleBOT
warped stratus
ok then i will try to build them like that and try, thx
warped stratus
is there maye other options for a solid team, the next i want to try is building a mav
hybrid glacier
is there maye other options for a solid team, the next i want to try is building...
sig needs more acc
oh interesting
in the photo sig has no acc
sig having acc would help
warped stratus
so the thing is i build them like in ?gbah, but it doesnt work, so someone sugested to build them like in ?justdoit 2 with the stats, that i tried yesterday an that doesnt work too so i am just frustrated
dry sphinxBOT
61360 ehp. Deffbroken: 31176 ehp.
hybrid glacier
oh
sigs ehp is really low
Stats to aim for:
Sigmarus, Veromos: 110k eHP, 179 SPD, 100% CR, 35% acc and rest CDMG
Shannon: Fastest on team,
Mav: Follow?toa build.
warped stratus
this is my team and it is failing, can someone help?
when you lokk here this was my first build
dry sphinxBOT
110320 ehp. Deffbroken: 55440 ehp.
hybrid glacier
this team could also do with being a bit faster
sigs at 165 spd
shannon is same speed as vero
when shannon should be much faster than she currently is
not much
but a bit faster
warped stratus
my speed tower is at 14,5% so sig ist like 186 speed
hybrid glacier
oh ok
warped stratus
176 pardon
hybrid glacier
vero in the first build could be tankier
ah
shannon in first build
shannon had 0 acc in first build
which ment shannon wasnt landing her slow and other debufs
warped stratus
maybe you know how the leader skill works, because i do not undestand. for example i take sig as leader so my vero get 44% + 4% Tower HP. so it means he has 15851 Hp without runes. then you take for example the + 9500 hp from the runes.
dry sphinxBOT
126590 ehp. Deffbroken: 58207 ehp.
warped stratus
so this would be vero in the first build
but i dont really know how the leader skill works
hybrid glacier
maybe you know how the leader skill works, because i do not undestand. for examp...
this seems about right
warped stratus
thx for your help
outer ermine
Others are already pointed out your goal but i also want to point out a few thing that u may counter in future
Your first sigma build is good enough
Your second vero is usable for now, aim to get that %35 acc and %100 CR while keeping min Ehp, Acc and lastly more CD
Your first Bella looks good
Your second Darion may need just a tad more HP which you can provide it by taking from excessive ACC
Your second Shannon is good
Bella and Darion easier to rune, if they die first just give them more ehp by taking from excessive Atk, CR, CD, Acc, Res
Also about Violent rune, its risky to put anyone other than shannon. Because they will lose their shield buff sooner if vio procs and
will be at more risk of dying. So to prevent the worst case scenario(Giant atk buff and no atk break, no shield buff on team, shield debuff on team and giant hit twice)
what u can do is, make shannon faster to cast his 3. skill as much as possible and give the team permanent shield buff
warped stratus
thank you will try
warped stratus
i just runed my bella sigmarus and veromos new and changed mav for darion now i finally can farm gbah thx guys for your support
darion for mav
pardon
warped stratus
hey, guys i tested the team for a while aaaaaannnnndd it is not reliable. so my question is, should i maybe get a wind homunkulus
?
outer ermine
can u post your team rune/stats so we can see if everything is in order
btw where were u at progression? do u have bj5 team? if u have good runes and grinds u can try faster teams in #1124430027270930664
warped stratus
so i havent played for 4 year
i started last month, an build the dot team for gb12. it worked fine i got an avarage time of 1:10min. so i thougt i will try the gbah team from this discord. the thing is i have sold the runes that you get from the game, so i tried to build them as near as possible. that you can see above. my problem is my runes are trash and i dont have any energy and kristals anymore. i just finished toa hard. no rift teams no homunkulus.
outer ermine
if u cant clear gbah consistently, its ok to do just gb10 or gban until u get some runes. and those runes are rlly nothing great so u will get there in no time
u dont even need sets
warped stratus
my tam
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sig is faster than bella and vero
outer ermine
first of all since u are using mav instead of darion your monsters need more ehp then regular justdoit2 team and your bella is looks squishy even with darion also sigma low ehp
warped stratus
sig is faster than bella and vero
wich order is correct?
warped stratus
first of all since u are using mav instead of darion your monsters need more ehp...
what do you mean "squishy"
outer ermine
since i dont use thim team anymore i dont exactly remember min ehp req. for bella, darion and mav. but bella and darion needs more ehp than vero and sigma (i dont know why but they just die if they dont). did u saw your fail runs and detected who die first?
i am sure sigma dies but other than him who else die first?
warped stratus
my vero and my sig die first
outer ermine
like i said your sigma Ehp is veeery low so its very natural, and your vero ehp is 123k which would be okey with darion but u use mav
and like drunken mentioned turn order is also important
mav should be slowest
minor star
hey, guys i tested the team for a while aaaaaannnnndd it is not reliable. so my ...
that wont help with reliability
outer ermine
i tried both team(darion / mav) and as long as u met min required stats (ehp, acc, speed(in right turn order)) its a reliable team
minor star
for reference this is the sig being used and it still dies here and there cus the boss cheats
warped stratus
ok i runed them new and now i am testing them.
other question. How do you choose wich rune to keep and wich to sell. I normally look for 2 max rolls on every rune then i roll blue on 3, purple on 6 and gold on 9 and look if they roll max. when they dont i sell them.
outer ermine
"which rune to keep and sell" is quite deep question. and most simple answer i think is, if there is a chance for that rune to be better your current runes role it.
outer ermine
and let me tell u gbah make a huuuge difference for me with rune quality. i swim in purples right now
warped stratus
that is nice
outer ermine
yep thats the main issue in this game. i also have 50k mana rn 🙂 u just look all of them and roll the most promising ones
loud hill
no
warped stratus
the progression guide end with toah, whats next?
loud hill
?stayingiants
alpine mapleBOT
WHEN YOU ARE STARTING, IT IS NOT A RUSH TO GET OUT OF GIANTS.
Most players have the ideology that they should go to start other dungeons RIGHT AWAY. This is not a good idea for a few reasons:
?pvesets - Violent/seal/etc runes are all not especially useful in PvE. When runing monsters for PvE, you are looking for stats first and sets second, with very few exceptions. Giants is very simple to get up and running, and you can work towards getting to Giants abyss hard as you improve your runes.ALL TIME spent in giants is valuable. When you first start doing siege, you will need decent swift runes. These will allow you to run cleaves, securing easy wins and more resources through crystal income. Fatal/blade runes are also very important to cleaving. Rage is NOT significantly better than fatal. The difference is so small you may as well consider them the same set.
Additionally, since reloaded just came out, we do not currently have an optimal progression route developed past this, since everything is still being discovered and developed. If you want to play optimallly, then you are best off farming giants, working towards GBAH and improving your runes. Let the dungeon scientists do the hard work here. Tricaru was not developed over night, and neither will optimal dungeon teams. We will get them sorted as soon as possible.
In summary- go farm giants more. Don't rush. The very first run of giants you do could get you a rune that you use for the rest of your time playing the game. Learn more about what runes are valuable and roll your blues. There are good examples of this in Beginner Playthrough 2022. This will make your progression much smoother.
warped stratus
ok thx
alpine mapleBOT
plain cape
this is not yr thread and not #bot-commands
warped stratus
Hey guys, quick update for this thread, so after endless tries i found a team that is constantly on 2min avarage, i also tried to change the hp% on slot 6 of veromos into atk% but then the run is failing. So i would like to ask you maybe you see a way, i can improve my time?
plain cape
we dont troubleshoot for teams outside of ?justdoit2 for gbah in #1047269577614164098 at the time being
sleek moat
you can try #1124430027270930664
warped stratus
we dont troubleshoot for teams outside of `?justdoit2` for gbah in <#10472695776...
oh i didn´t know that, is there a reason for it or it is just a rule?
plain cape
#1126866522460139530
