#Verde rune help

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wraith bane
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Is this a wise switch for runes? It seems like I’m sacrificing a lot of defence to reach max crit rate and higher crit damage but I’m not sure…

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dark dome
wraith bane
dark dome
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Verd doesnt function without it

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Although you could just switch to slot 4 cr if you dont have the rune quality to manage a cd slot 4

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You shouldnt need 3 blade sets to reach 100% cr

wraith bane
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Oh…

dark dome
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Its only 15 cr

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Adding 2 blade sets doesnt make sense

wraith bane
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What 2 set tune should I do then?

pine bison
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It seems your early game still so

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A few things

dark dome
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Stats > sets

pine bison
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Don’t worry about sets

dark dome
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You dont need to force sets

pine bison
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You can probably make a much better verd

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Your just focusing too much on matching sets

dark dome
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Forcing sets limits your rune selection

wraith bane
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Oh interesting, so I shouldn’t really care about matching sets atm?

pine bison
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Also what are you building him for

pine bison
dark dome
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Only set you will need to force during pve is will for bj5

wraith bane
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dark dome
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pine bison
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The vio one is the one your currently running for inugami dungeon

wraith bane
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Who should I work on after I finish 2a kro? (I have raoq and Bella already)

dark dome
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Dont 2a kro

wraith bane
dark dome
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?dhole

humble atlasBOT
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Second Awakening Priority

2a PvE monsters
Belladeon → Raoq → Vigor/Kro (Order subject to change)
Remember to put tanky runes and 5☆/6☆ the monster you're 2nd awakening!

2a PvP monsters
Elucia/Lulu/Kahli/Eshir/Lala/Chacha

Rune Dungeon Priority
Lumel → Kharzan/Ellunia → Khalderun → Sacreon

Use ?dholeinfo in #bot-commands for dungeon guides and more information.

dark dome
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Oh wait

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Why is kro in there

pine bison
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Yea it’s not past one raoq yet

pine bison
dark dome
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O

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Yea

wraith bane
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Oh I was also trying to use verde for rifts

pine bison
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And as of right now I’m not done making necro so hence no updates

dark dome
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Vigor then after kro

wraith bane
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I can’t get higher than A- on the rifts😅 idk why

wraith bane
pine bison
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You don’t need to do rifts at all so dw about it

wraith bane
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But I wanna get hommunculus lol

pine bison
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But I would still fix your verd

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Hommunculus does nothing for progression

wraith bane
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Doesn’t the wind one improve run time for giants?

pine bison
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Not during progression and even for awhile after

wraith bane
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Oh I see

pine bison
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Back to verd tho

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?2ateam

humble atlasBOT
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# Dimension Hole (Non-Ellunia) 2A B5 Team

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[Verdehile][1] Leader - Swift/Any or Violent/any, SPD/CR/[HP/ATK]
[Loren][2] - Swift/Any, SPD/HP/HP
[Fran][3] - Swift/Any, SPD/HP/HP

[Turn order][→] Loren/Fran → Verdehile
[Targetting] Left → Right → Boss

[1]: Verdehile needs 100% CR, 180 SPD, 85k eHP. Should move after Loren/Fran. Violent is a luxury. Try getting higher Attack so he deals damage. More att/cd means safer and faster runs
[2]: Loren needs 34% Acc, ~200 SPD, 130k eHP. Doesn't need damage.
[3]: Fran needs ~200 SPD, 130k eHP. Acc could help with consistency but not necessary.

* Fran and Loren work on their ?justdoit builds to start off

* Fran needs full skill ups. Loren can get away without skill ups. Verdehile doesn't need skill ups.

* These stats assume no towers. 

* All units should be 6ed to benefit from the extra tankiness. White (?artifacts) can help with tankiness, or if your Fran has very low ATK. Most of these mons have low base DEF so DEF is a good main stat here.

* Building the 2a target (runing/evolving to 5/6 star) can help with speed and/or consistency. (Weak) Fight or other team sets may also help if you have spares and aren't planning on using the monster immediately.

* Clears 3:30-4:00 with L → R → Boss. Can go faster with L → Boss and/or a damage Verde.
wraith bane
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Wait sorry I have sets on the just do it team and was wondering if I also do the runes to not match sets?

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My sigmarus dies occasionally in gbah

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And also my time is like mid to high 3:00

pine bison
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Sigmarus needs more ehp then but 3 min is fine

wraith bane
wraith bane
pine bison
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?ehp

humble atlasBOT
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Effective HP (eHP)
A function of health and defense that relates to the amount of damage that can be taken under normal conditions.
Defense Broken HP (D.eHP)
Another factor of EHP that relates to the amount of damage that can be taken while DEF broken.
Both can be checked with the command /ehp TotalHP TotalDEF (use in #bot-commands).

wraith bane
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I don’t really understand 😅

pine bison
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What don’t you understand

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Ehp is just a number that represent the amount of damage your unit can take

wraith bane
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It’s a separate function than just Hp and def stats?

pine bison
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No

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You calculate ehp using the units hp and def

wraith bane
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Ahhh I see

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So how can I improve the ehp?

pine bison
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Giving him more hp and def

wraith bane
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I see

pine bison
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Show me your sigmarus

wraith bane
pine bison
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Yea you forced sets again

wraith bane
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The runes are from the progression and I think I just changed slot 6

pine bison
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Oh

wraith bane
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Ya…

pine bison
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You want to change his runes definitely

wraith bane
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Like idk if I should deviate from progression rune set ups to increase stats?

wraith bane
pine bison
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?gbah

humble atlasBOT
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WIP Giant's Keep Abyss (Hard)
For beginners, see ?justdoit2 . This command focuses on improvements on the team after the team has been built. See ?justdoit2stats for an estimate of minimum stats.

Average times vary depending on runes.

Teams:
Team 1: Sigmarus (L), Veromos, Belladeon, Darion, Shannon
Average time: 2:00-4:10
Team 2: Sigmarus (L), Veromos, Belladeon, Mav, Shannon
Average time: 2:30-3:30

Stats to aim for:
Sigmarus, Veromos: 110k eHP, 179 SPD, 100% CR, 35% acc and rest CDMG
Shannon: Fastest on team,
Mav: Follow?toa build.

Improving your times
Higher damage on Sigmarus/Veromos.

wraith bane
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Do I care about the attack stat on sigmarus? Since his damage scales with total hp

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Of enemy

pine bison
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No as said before stats>sets

wraith bane
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Sorry, what I mean is, if I wanna aim for those said stats on gbah

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If I have to sacrifice some attack is that ok?

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Idk how much the attack stat affects sig

pine bison
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Is attack one of the stats listed

wraith bane
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No

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That’s why I’m wondering if it affects his damage

pine bison
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Then there’s your answer

pine bison
wraith bane
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Okay cool, that’s what I was curious about lol

pine bison
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Don’t worry about atk

wraith bane
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Kk

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What about for Bella? Attack and accuracy?

pine bison
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Bella stays on her justdoit set

wraith bane
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Okay cool

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Do the runes have to match exactly to the justdoit set?

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Like for example for Bella there is will in slot 4 and 6

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But mine is slot 1 and 4

pine bison
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No you can improve her it’s just not required

wraith bane
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Alrighty

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Thank you very much for the help!!

pine bison
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Oh no the will isn’t needed

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It’s just what you get

wraith bane
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?

pine bison
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Which is correct

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I thought you were asking if she needed the will set

wraith bane
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Ahhh