#belladeon unawakened

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echo skiff
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there is no reaosn to be farming db10

sage schooner
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I’m trying to get to abyss for event

pliant citrus
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you should get to abyss with the runes u get from giants, think you can finish the event even without the dragons, bella doesnt remove buffs coz you dont have enough acc% probably
use ?acc
also use #off-meta-fun if u plan on doing db10 but as i mentioned it is probably a waste of time and resources

sage schooner
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Now I’m interested in to as why b10 dragons is waste lol and the skill doesn’t say x% chance to remove buff maybe that’s why

pliant citrus
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?acc

hybrid skiffBOT
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Accuracy Benchmarks

0% - Rift beasts
15% - Raids/Predator
25% - SF10/PC10
35% - GBAH/SR10/Dimensional Hole
45% - ToA Normal & Hard
55% - GB10/NB10
55% - ToA Hell
65% - DBAH/DB10
85% - PVP Bomber/Debuffer

for detailed information type ?accuracy in #bot-commands or read https://redd.it/4hw8da

pliant citrus
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there are two checks for accuracy, you always have a 15% chance of missing it, but if u dont have the accuracy required then u have a higher change of missing

sage schooner
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Ahhh I see thanks

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I thought it was 100% because it doesn’t say percentage

pliant citrus
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and for pve just stats are fine, you don't need the runes from dragons for now (they are NOT bad in any way but you are better off farming giants for now, as you wont be able to do dbAH anyway)

sage schooner
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I can do giants and 100 toa.

pliant citrus
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gb10?

sage schooner
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Yea

pliant citrus
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are you working on gbAH

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?progression

hybrid skiffBOT
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-** Scenarios > GB10 > ToaN100 > 2a Team > GBAH > ToaH100**

  • See ?stayingiants

  • If you are just starting the game see ?beginner

  • READ THIS, ?progressionexplained gives a more in-depth explanation of the above progression

  • (Text in ?thisformat are commands, type these in #bot-commands to get the guides!)

pliant citrus
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?stayingiants

hybrid skiffBOT
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WHEN YOU ARE STARTING, IT IS NOT A RUSH TO GET OUT OF GIANTS.
Most players have the ideology that they should go to start other dungeons RIGHT AWAY. This is not a good idea for a few reasons:

  1. No time is wasted farming Giants. It is important to improve the runes on your account that specifically from Giants. End game players continue to farm Giants endlessly.
  2. Throughout PvE, a lot of your bottlenecks will be tied to damage dealer sets. Farming giants is the best way to remedy this.
  3. ?pvesets - Violent/seal/etc runes are all not especially useful in PvE. When runing monsters for PvE, you are looking for stats first and sets second, with very few exceptions. Giants is very simple to get up and running, and you can work towards getting to Giants abyss hard as you improve your runes.

ALL TIME spent in giants is valuable. When you first start doing siege, you will need decent swift runes. These will allow you to run cleaves, securing easy wins and more resources through crystal income. Fatal/blade runes are also very important to cleaving. Rage is NOT significantly better than fatal. The difference is so small you may as well consider them the same set.

Additionally, since reloaded just came out, we do not currently have an optimal progression route developed past this, since everything is still being discovered and developed. If you want to play optimallly, then you are best off farming giants, working towards GBAH and improving your runes. Let the dungeon scientists do the hard work here. Tricaru was not developed over night, and neither will optimal dungeon teams. We will get them sorted as soon as possible.

In summary- go farm giants more. Don't rush. The very first run of giants you do could get you a rune that you use for the rest of your time playing the game. Learn more about what runes are valuable and roll your blues. There are good examples of this in ⁠Beginner Playthrough 2022. This will make your progression much smoother.

sage schooner
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Once I get better runes I just wanted to target 5* now and then before event ends

pliant citrus
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why would you go for dragons anyway

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as you can get the bonus points from gbAH as well

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which is also easier and should be done anyway*

sage schooner
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I’m sitting at like 3.5 k star pieces. Just wanted to enter abyss x amount of times

pliant citrus
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have you done gbAH?

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sorry i mean gb abyss

sage schooner
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Yeah I done that

pliant citrus
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well you should just wait for the 5s scroll then

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as you will get it regardless

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it's a waste of resources to do dragons, just focus on ?progression

sage schooner
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Alright thanks

pliant citrus
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no matter what 5s you get you won't be using it in progression

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that's why

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as none of them can replace the progression monsters/teams, and even if they can and will improve it, they'll require runes and artis that you don't currently have
So 5s (outside of the guides in which the 5s are fusable) are not used until you're done with pve

sage schooner
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Ok

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Thanks

pliant citrus
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you're welcome