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brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:40 AM

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Hello so im 2 days into this game and i got no idea what people are suposed to do i watched some videos on tier lists on whats best heroes etc, but i feel like theres just not enough guides for new players like straight forward guides. Even if i spent 400€ on scrolls and packs i feel like my progress is the same as a f2p player kekw wich is quite amazing at this point i want to buy the packs of 60 runes to see if it helps at all but i doubt it too. I am stuck on B7 of all runs possible (im lvl 23) so theres some dungeons i didnt unlock yet. For tower i cant go past 50. This are the heroes i got and im using for all content - asura wind , blue girl aoe starter, fren , dryad and blacksmith wind to try to survive but they still die so fast

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:41 AM

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There are endless guides on what to do. Build the recommended units in questline. The game questline literally holds your hand thru content.

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?justdoit

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:41 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/e7C8hyY.png

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plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Where are your actual monsters that you are using?

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Where is your Lapis?

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?beginner

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Go to #bot-commands and type the commands shown. Read and follow them.
?qstart → ?farmer → ?justdoit → ?progression → ?nat4event → ?dhole
Extra QOL commands ?sd , ?crystals , ?sstones , ?fusion , ?nat5 , ?dholeinfo

What monsters to keep? see ?monsterrule

Want more info? see #1048681073502068917

To see more** Bot Commands** see the pins in #bot-commands or type ?bot

Use ?runestats if reading spd/hp/hp confuses you.

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 AM

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?qstart

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Commands use in #bot-commands
?farmer, ?justdoit , ?monsterrule , ?sd , ?crystals

Clear scenario fully on normal for the rewards

Friends and Mentors
Ask in the chat for people with strong reps (Preferably Lapis, Beth, Alicia, Verad).
Use these to help clear the Novice Summoners Questline to get Lapis (water magic knight) ASAP and Clear Mt. Runar as stated in ?farmer

Runes
Do NOT bother keeping any of the runes dropped from scenario.
Completing certain scenarios will give you the option to choose between a fatal/blade/energy set, always choose Blade.

For more info on which runes to get, use ?justdoit in #bot-commands.

How to Get The JustDoIT Team
Your first goal should be to get your ?justdoit team going; use in #bot-commands.
**Shannon **(wind pixie): Unknown scrolls.
Loren (light cowgirl): Secret Dungeon.
Fran (light fairy queen): Clear Kabir Ruins
Veromos (dark ifrit) and Sigmarus (water phoenix): Requires you to fuse them by using the Fusion Hexagram. (see image link for fusion charthttps://imgur.com/6DkS1z0)

Use this site to learn about monsters:
https://swarfarm.com/bestiary

__Skillups __
Can be gotten from Magic Shop, Secret dungeons, and Unknown/Mystical Scrolls.

Your soon to be GB12 team requires skillups.
Loren: Light cow girl secret dungeon - Dont buy cow girls from Guild Shop
Fran: Unknown Scrolls and Magic Shop - Fairies
Shannon: Unknown Scrolls - Pixie
Sigmarus: First monster to get Devilmon, want to max skills 2 and 3
Veromos: 2nd monster to Devilmon, fully

When farming Scenario farm on Faimon Hell difficulty Level 1 for most EXP return.

__Level up your team __
?farmer command in #bot-commands.

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 AM

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?farmer

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 AM

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# FARMER

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# YOUR FIRST FARMER (BEFORE GB12)

[Unawakened Magic Knight (water)](Gotten from the clearing the Novice Summoners Way questline)
 
Evolve her to 6✰ and use the +15 Vampire/Revenge runes which you can obtain clearing Mt Runar

6✰ Lapis first to take advantage of the combined 3x experience boost (Ameria's Blessing 2x exp + 2x exp coupon, they stack!). This lets you quickly make fodder for the ?justdoit team and beyond (ToA, GB12, Rift Beasts).

Awakened 5✰ Lapis  with this set finishes hell 9/10 times and at 6✰ clears 99%.

For more information on making evolution fodder (monsters whose sole purpose is to be used for evolving other monsters), see the ?evolving command.
 
# AFTER GB12

It is most efficient to continue to use Lapis instead of building another unit just to use in this already fast and easy content.

# FAQ
[Q]("Can I use another monster to be my farmer instead of Lapis?")
[A](The short answer is that you should NOT be using anyone other than Lapis to be your farmer as a new player.)

[Q]("I fed my Lapis a while ago and I am a returning player, which monsters should I use instead?")
[A](Clear the Novice Summoners Way questline to get her back.)

[Q]("Where is my Ameria's Blessing?")
[A](Ameria's Blessing is a benefit that new accounts and returning players who are inactive for more than 60 days recieve.)

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:43 AM

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You should be focused on lapis questline, finish scenario til faimon hell, farming SD to fuse vero/sig and finishing out that gb team. Also, begin working on 2a Spectra and Kro

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I just made a fresh account last week so going through same journey, they made it super easy and streamlined. Any questions feel free to ask

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:48 AM

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Lapis clears hell in 18 seconds

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:49 AM

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Yes, you dont have monsters shown that using then.

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Just take pic of box showing all monsters using

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:50 AM

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Im using lapis the fairy girl fran , wind black smith , asura wind , and dryad wind

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:51 AM

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?justdoit

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:51 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/e7C8hyY.png

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hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:51 AM

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work on this for now

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:51 AM

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That isnt what I asked but ok

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:51 AM

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it doesent matter what he used until now

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when he focus on justdoit now

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it should be fine

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:52 AM

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Another thing

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:52 AM

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no but i can tell him what to fuse or work on. Since he ignored it first time in general and again here 😛

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:52 AM

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Is it even worth to use rune sets if theyre bad?

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Like if crit rate lacking

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:52 AM

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use runes given to you by quests

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:52 AM

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just follow instructions in the justdoit picture, it explains everything

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all rune sets u need are from quest

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:54 AM

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?bossfocus

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 11:54 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/ttllB99.mp4

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brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Oh my god i didnt know this was a thing

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:55 AM

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hot remnant just follow instructions in the justdoit picture, it explains everything

Yes but what about after it?

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I will complete today fusion for vero

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I got all his heroes from scrolls

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:55 AM

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then fuse sig

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you should be getting heros from event

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:55 AM

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But wait

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That team u showed

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From ?justsoir

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Does it beat b10?

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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it beats abyss hard

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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???

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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and b10

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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plush berry it beats abyss hard

are u sure tho? i doubt it

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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if follow guide you will be able farm abyss hard in week, db and gb

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yes, im doing it currently

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its slow but safe

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:56 AM

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nvm then

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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ya starter account atm is dumb easy

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you can farm dbah 2min runs

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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Cant i use wind blacksmith in that other girl?

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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brisk fractal Yes but what about after it?

u can come back and ask for the after when u are done with justdoit

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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gbah slow, gb10 tho 1-130 runs

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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brisk fractal Cant i use wind blacksmith in that other girl?

no

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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no you cant

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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just follow the guide

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please

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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dont try use units you summon

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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thats most optimal progression

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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just guide units

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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But she gives def up only worryeyes

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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No, she doesnt

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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she sucks

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 11:57 AM

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shannon is OP as f for pve

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these guide units are extremely strong at what they do

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nothing else

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except loren/vero

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they just broken alla round

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ill show you teams sec, if follow guide its just super streamlined. Ignore necro and artifact dungeons.

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you can spam lvl 1-4 if want for basic artifacts on each units thats all need

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all f2p guide units except lyn, which isnt needed.

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10 days. Just grind out those fuse and get to it!

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 12:02 PM

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galleon also not f2p

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but yea

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 12:02 PM

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ya also not needed

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bella works, few others as well

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even roid

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 12:03 PM

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it should not matter

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we dont troubleshoot gbah teams here rn

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 12:03 PM

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Ya sadly

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 12:03 PM

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optimal team for it still needs to be figured out

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 12:03 PM

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dbah is a joke at least lol

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that team legit cant fail, and good runes people do 1 min runs same comp

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 12:03 PM

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there is not much to say except follow progression

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 12:04 PM

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yep, finish justdoit and if get stuck ask. The summoners way will guide you and rewards are NICE!

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 1:18 PM

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@plush berry @hot remnant but like after i got all of those heroes

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The runes that are recomended

north hinge Jul 7, 2023, 1:19 PM

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we don't troubleshoot post ToA here right now unfortunately

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give us time

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 1:19 PM

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Stay pike tyat forever?

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 1:19 PM

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until you find upgrades

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 1:19 PM

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But the sets are always those right

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 1:20 PM

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Do not have to be

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 1:21 PM

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Oh

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So for veronomos for exaple i aim for like speed and hp ig?

plush berry Jul 7, 2023, 1:22 PM

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spd/cd/hp is most common

brisk fractal Jul 7, 2023, 1:22 PM

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Im trying to understand the baseline of runes cause i got some from packs and from the rune event

near crescent Jul 7, 2023, 4:19 PM

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?justdoit

junior gulchBOT Jul 7, 2023, 4:19 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/e7C8hyY.png

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near crescent Jul 7, 2023, 4:20 PM

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should i just keep following the novice quest and get these monsters passivly?

hot remnant Jul 7, 2023, 4:28 PM

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near crescent should i just keep following the novice quest and get these monsters passivly?

please make ur own thread and dont just use this one

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and u should be actively working on getting these monsters

near crescent Jul 7, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Ok

#early game need help