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stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:50 AM

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?progression

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 3:50 AM

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Scenarios > GB12 > ToaN100 > S+ Ranked Water [1] > ToaH100 > ~~Tricaru~~ >
~~S+ Rank Fire Rift~~ > Bj5 > Lumel b5 > ~~S+ Rank All Rifts~~

(Text in ?thisformat are commands, type these in #bot-commands to get the guides!)

If you are just starting the game see
?beginner

READ THIS, ?progressionexplained gives a more in-depth explanation of the above progression

[1] ~~Struggling to consistently clear ice rift with S+ rank?~~ Check ?stayingiants .

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:50 AM

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follow this for now

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:51 AM

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sorry, i should have said this up there

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i'm working on getting the light cowgirl and the light fairy, but i haven't found shit for teams i can use, everything says lapis is nerfed and not worth using, that bella isn't worth using, and everything i find for teams is years old, can i still just use the old bella/vero/sig/shannon team? i tried that earlier and couldn't even do a manual gb10 and i was very confused.

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:52 AM

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lapis is still a good farmer

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ignore every guides outside of this discord imo

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:53 AM

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roger, ty. is it really that easy, just going from scenarios to gb12?

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like i said i tried to rune vero/chasun/lushen and couldn't even do a gb10

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:53 AM

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actually it's GB10 after the update, idk about the GB12 rn but it's hard

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?gb12

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 3:53 AM

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See ?gba for abyssal. See ?gb10 otherwise

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:54 AM

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?gb10

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 3:54 AM

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Order the GB10 team is upgraded and avg times

Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Shannon 3:00
Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Kro(2A) 1:20-1:50
Sigmarus Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 1:00-1:20
Lushen Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 0:24-1:00

=New players see ?justdoit =
=Returning players See below stats=

Sigmarus - SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 85% CR, 80k ehp, 140+ spd, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
Fran - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 180+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Loren - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 200+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Shannon - SPD/HP/[HP/DEF], 180+ spd, 60k ehp
Veromos - SPD/HP/HP, 180+ spd, 100k ehp
Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 140 spd and moving after Sig, 80K ehp, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs

Set boss focus: ?bossfocus
Acc makes runs more consistent, aim for 54% on all supports (loren,fran,Veromos ,shannon)
Turn order loren > Fran/Veromos/shannon > sig > kro(2A)
Vero and shannon can stay 5★ for now

STEPS TO IMPROVING GB10 (TEAM #2 AND BELOW) - spds are in combat spd

Must reach near average time of current team before moving to the next one
Vero can be moved to a bruiser build

SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 80k ehp but tankier is safer, 85% CR, 180+ spd, [hp/def/att] artifacts depending on need
6★ Vero and devilmon

Improving Sig to his ?toa build along with reaching the same stats as above
Getting kro to or close to 169 (with max spd totem, only needs 45 spd from runes to hit 169 combat spd)
Hraesvelg replaces fran

Stats should be - SPD/CD/HP, 130k ehp, 169 spd and moving before sig and kro, 70+ CR, rest into att/CD

Turn order for team #3: Loren > hraes > vero > sig > kro(2a)

WHEN TO ADD LUSHEN TO MY GB10 TEAM

when you get toward the end of progression, hit 10.3k per card with skill 3 and to at least 170 combat speed

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:54 AM

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this one

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:54 AM

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fran is light fairy right? i almost have her unlocked from the summoners way thing

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:54 AM

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yes

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:55 AM

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are there any mons i have that i can use in place of any of these? like i have chasun and i used to use her in place or fran/loren i'm guessing

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i think i used to use vero/shannon/chasun/bernard and someone else

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:56 AM

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no, fran and loren is good enough for pve

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u dont need a chasun

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that's outdated

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:56 AM

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i actually have most of these in this list though, besides fran/loren

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loren is an SD right?

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:56 AM

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yes

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she's broken

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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i will get her asap then

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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gl

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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ty dude

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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u can craft her SD

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:57 AM

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oh i can

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is that a new feature?

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:58 AM

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my bad

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craft the element

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not loren SD

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:58 AM

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for skill ups you mean?

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or am i misunderstanding

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 3:59 AM

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like, do u have her rn

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:59 AM

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no i just started playing again yesterday

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i have no idea who loren or fran even is other than what i've seen from people saying they're op

ancient bronze Jul 2, 2023, 3:59 AM

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Fran is Light Fairy Queen, new mons, but you can use fairy to level up her skill

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 3:59 AM

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i think the dark inugami is also op?

ancient bronze Jul 2, 2023, 4:00 AM

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Loren is light Cowgirl

ancient bronze Jul 2, 2023, 4:00 AM

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upbeat remnant i think the dark inugami is also op?

Decent, not OP OP

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:00 AM

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i think u need to read the progression guides again in this discord

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it will explain a lots

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about the team and units

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it will took u like 10 to 15 mins only

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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gotcha, i've been looking on the reddit and browsing some stuff people have said here

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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reddit are mostly outdated

ancient bronze Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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upbeat remnant gotcha, i've been looking on the reddit and browsing some stuff people have said...

GetRatted

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Trust us

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or we will eat your dogs

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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i appreciate it

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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i need to update the reddit guides ngl

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so start with

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?progression

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Scenarios > GB12 > ToaN100 > S+ Ranked Water [1] > ToaH100 > ~~Tricaru~~ >
~~S+ Rank Fire Rift~~ > Bj5 > Lumel b5 > ~~S+ Rank All Rifts~~

(Text in ?thisformat are commands, type these in #bot-commands to get the guides!)

If you are just starting the game see
?beginner

READ THIS, ?progressionexplained gives a more in-depth explanation of the above progression

[1] ~~Struggling to consistently clear ice rift with S+ rank?~~ Check ?stayingiants .

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:02 AM

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?progressionexplained

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 4:02 AM

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Scenarios: clear all of scenario on normal difficulty asap with friend/mentor reps, see ?farmer
Justdoit: work on getting/leveling/evolving these monsters in ?justdoit while clearing scenario to make your first GB12 team (Giants Keep floor 12)
first and main rune farming dungeon during PvE
ToaN100: clear this with your gb12 team and a few other monsters mentioned in ?toa
GB12: Once you have things rolling, you can look at ?gb12 to start speeding up the team
About time to look at making ?2ateam to 2nd awaken kro
~~S+ Rank Water Rift: ?rift-water Ability to farm and craft determination runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)~~
ToaH100: first time you really need to invest into toa, see ?toa
~~Tricaru: ?tricaru this gives you the ability to farm NB12, DB12, and PC10, though DB12 does not need to be done at this time~~
~~S+ Rank Fire Rift: ?rift-fire ability to farm and craft fight runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)~~
BJ5: ?bj5 the speed r5 team, you can farm NB12 for will runes, farm/craft fight runes from Fire Rift and have options of your bale being on fatal or Rage
?sf10 and pc10 can be done to help your bale hit his minimum damage threshold
Lumel b5: this will be one of two d-hole rune farming dungeons that you will farm
the second rune farming dungeon is up to you, see bottom of ?dhole
this also plays a part into which dimensional predator runes you will be picking from
~~S+ Rank Rift Beasts: finish up getting S+ ranks in the other rift beasts, see ?rift-(x) , x being the element~~
DB12: now is the time you can start thinking about farming dragons with ?tricaru and shifting focus from pve to pvp content. See #1048719420870107227.

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:02 AM

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okay so what even is gb12? is that the abyss thing?

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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i think they forgot to change to GB12 into GB10

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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and people just call is 11/12

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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lemme ask rq

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@empty stump

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does the GB12 in cmd is GB10, or still GB12?

empty stump Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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indeed its gb10 currently

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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ty i have been so confused

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xD

empty stump Jul 2, 2023, 4:03 AM

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havent changed over everything

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:04 AM

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is there still a channel in game for SDs?

empty stump Jul 2, 2023, 4:04 AM

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101-150

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:05 AM

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upbeat remnant is there still a channel in game for SDs?

in global 1050, but for loren just go any channel like Ace said

empty stump Jul 2, 2023, 4:05 AM

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1050 is also good for all except loren really

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:05 AM

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u will find one or u can ask people to open it for u too

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also there's a SD request channel in this discord too

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check it out

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:05 AM

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oh that's cool, people can just open them?

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:06 AM

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yes, people open them, and u will see the notice about people finding them at ingame chat

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press it, request to join (be fast)

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and u can farm it

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:06 AM

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damn even if it's not the right day?

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:07 AM

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yea

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u can craft any element SDs nowaday

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:07 AM

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that's a good feature :p

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 4:07 AM

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bless new players KEKW

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 4:08 AM

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i remember trying to do bella sd like 8-9 years ago

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 5:50 AM

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?2a

idle solstice Jul 2, 2023, 6:16 AM

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I got all Loren copies to max skills in less then a week as a new player. While autofarming follow chat 1050 , when you see cow girls sd have to be fast and try to join, if not you could ask the guy with the sd to add you as friend. I'm new to the game , not giving advice, this was just my approach 🙂

upbeat remnant Jul 2, 2023, 6:32 AM

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yea i already got her and 6* maxed her will get skills the next couple of days

stiff pebble Jul 2, 2023, 7:19 AM

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upbeat remnant ?2a

?dhole

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 2, 2023, 7:19 AM

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Second Awakening Priority

2a PvE monsters
Kro → ~~3x Icaru~~ (skip for now) → Raoq/Vigor
Remember to put tanky runes and 5☆/6☆ the monster you're 2nd awakening!

2a PvP monsters
Elucia/Lulu/Kahli/Eshir/Lala/Chacha

Rune Dungeon Priority
Lumel → Kharzan/Ellunia → Khalderun → Sacreon

Use ?dholeinfo in #bot-commands for dungeon guides and more information.

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:16 AM

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?gb10

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:16 AM

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Order the GB10 team is upgraded

Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Shannon
Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Kro(2A)

=New players see ?justdoit =
=Returning players See below stats=

Sigmarus - SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 85% CR, 80k ehp, 140+ spd, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
Fran - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 180+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Loren - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 200+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Shannon - SPD/HP/[HP/DEF], 180+ spd, 60k ehp
Veromos - SPD/HP/HP, 180+ spd, 100k ehp
Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 140 spd and moving after Sig, 80K ehp, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs

Set boss focus: ?bossfocus
Acc makes runs more consistent, aim for 54% on all supports (loren,fran,Veromos ,shannon)
Turn order loren > Fran/Veromos/shannon > sig > kro(2A)
Vero and shannon can stay 5★ for now

STEPS TO IMPROVING GB10 (TEAM #2 AND BELOW) - spds are in combat spd

Must reach near average time of current team before moving to the next one
Vero can be moved to a bruiser build

SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 80k ehp but tankier is safer, 85% CR, 180+ spd, [hp/def/att] artifacts depending on need
6★ Vero and devilmon

Improving Sig to his ?toa build along with reaching the same stats as above
Getting kro to or close to 169 (with max spd totem, only needs 45 spd from runes to hit 169 combat spd)

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:16 AM

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?progression

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:16 AM

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-** Scenarios > GB10 > ToaN100 > ToaH100**

Check ?stayingiants
Do Not Focus on below if it wasnt finished before RELOADED update
Bj5, Lumel b5, Rift Beasts, SF10, PC10
If you are just starting the game see ?beginner
READ THIS, ?progressionexplained gives a more in-depth explanation of the above progression
(Text in ?thisformat are commands, type these in #bot-commands to get the guides!)

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:17 AM

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?progressionexplained

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:17 AM

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Scenarios: clear all of scenario on normal difficulty asap with friend/mentor reps, see ?farmer
Justdoit: work on getting/leveling/evolving these monsters in ?justdoit while clearing scenario to make your first GB10 team (Giants Keep floor 10)
first and main rune farming dungeon during PvE
ToaN100: clear this with your gb12 team and a few other monsters mentioned in ?toa
GB10: Once you have things rolling, you can look at ?gb10 to start speeding up the team
About time to look at making ?2ateam to 2nd awaken kro
ToaH100: first time you really need to invest into toa, see ?toa

Dont focus on below if it wasnt finished before reloaded update

BJ5: ?bj5 the speed r5 team, Currently need SR10 team to do
?sf10 and can be done to help your bale hit his minimum damage threshold
Lumel b5: this will be one of two d-hole rune farming dungeons that you will farm
the second rune farming dungeon is up to you, see bottom of ?dhole
this also plays a part into which dimensional predator runes you will be picking from
S+ Rank Rift Beasts

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:18 AM

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?artifacts

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:18 AM

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Beginning (during ?progression) :
Farm Steel Fortress/Punishers Crypt B1-2, Fill both slots with a White/Normal rarity artifact [1] that has a main stat fitting the mon's use. Substats don't matter.

Later (end of ?progression):
Read #1091799234010943648.

Farm SF/PC10 for Blue/Rare+ quality replacements, taking substats in consideration. Because of the extreme variance in substats, a good main stat + decent double roll on a relevant substat, or good substat rolls with a "mismatched" main stat are excellent for a long time.

?artifactsinfo #bot-commands for more information about artifacts. Note [1] is explained in ?artifactsinfo .

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:43 AM

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?toa

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:43 AM

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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE
Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta ?akroma

First ToaN (normal) team will consists of your GB12 team according to ?justdoit which is Veromos, Fran, Shannon ( ** DO NOT 6 Star ** ), Sigmarus and either Lapis or Loren
ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Fran, Mav (wind penguin), Shannon, +2 of these units below depending on floor
Sig, Vero, Melia, Loren, Verde
[Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc
[Mellia] - Despair-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆
[Sigmarus][1] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], moving before Mav, 20-30 acc, 85% CR, HP/ATT artifacts depending on runes and still meeting GB12 requirements
[Veromos, Loren, Fran, Shannon, and Verde] runed as they are for their other content
[1]: Sig is eventually switched from the beginner runes to these requirements to start speeding up ToaH floors and GB12 team.

Additional Info

If you are not sure of what a monster does, don't be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do
Sigmarus, Veromos and Mellia do not need skillups, everyone else should be skilled up.
Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages
45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does. Sig's spd will be slow at first but then later will want to be made faster than mav as well.

upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:48 AM

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?bossfocus

cosmic wolfBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:48 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/ttllB99.mp4

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upbeat remnant Jul 3, 2023, 3:51 AM

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?2ateam

#returning player, few questions coming back.