Got some swgt sorted out so I can get better records of my battles and looking for some tips and advice. Currently in G1/2 siege. I know I still need more rune improvement but I also know I make mistakes in piloting and choosing counters so any tips would be appreciated. Going to attach the last two sieges for references.
#Some Siege Advice
naive ember
1 - Pretty easy counter (LD5) did Louisse>Tess>Theo
2 - LOSS pretty sure that was just a bad counter and got procd to death really hard by roid
3 - Same one from #2 easily wiped out
4 - Easy kill, didnt feel that defense was very good, Amduat seemed to not be super tanky
5 - LOSS snipe trap shaina, she was incredibly tanky, took guild several tries to get through that defense
6 - standard counter
7 - straighforward counter imo, Manon>Nora>seara
8 - LOSS I thought this should be a good counter and it was going ok until getting procd to death a lot (Sav vio'd until Leo was dead and Nora was able to chain CC by turn cycling after that)
naive ember
11 - One of my most used offenses imo and works a lot. Tes>Molly>Ferm
12 - Straightforward, Woosa buff then eat Zerath S3, mo long RA Zerath then Manon>Molly
13 - common counter, worked fine
14 - This one was fine but I still dont feel great about how my Racuni is built, she just feels like she underperforms each time
15 - simple counter here, Odin>Tes>draco
16 - straigtforward and safe Manon>Tes>Riley
17 - LOSSnot a good counter prodably, Tes survived Oberon and I panicked to kill him which then let Odin start rolling, bad counter and bad piloting imo thought im shocked on Oberon not killing, might need to find him some more upgrades
18 - Same as 17 but went fine
19 - LOSSnot the best counter but most certainly got rune gaped as well. and vigor vio'd off
20 - same as 19, standard counter and went fine.
unborn girder
2 - i like the carbine idea here, but woosa into juno? makes no sense. also typically in a bruiser type counter you only have room for 1 damage dealer, need 2 supports/tanks. meaning you keep the carbine but drop the carc for another healer. and then get rid of woosa for a better roid tank like rina
silver elbow
Khmun vigor elucia works into 19, can sleep harmonia with elucia and u should be fine
unborn girder
3 - at this point i'm not even sure if you know what juno does
5 - show runes on this team. it's really really hard to tank this counter. the more realistic way to trap this counter is with a nem shaina. you probably got rune gapped or you didn't build this team properly
8 - you're disrespecting nora and chandra. nora can solo control your entire team, and chandra's hug kinda counters helena
naive ember
3 - at this point i'm not even sure if you know what juno does
lol yea I get that and I was relying on outspeeding to snipe on 2 and with 3 I knew I would overtake the team. I am aware of Juno's kit. but yes my comp in 2 was not good
I'll show runes on 5, this counter for me works easily 9/10 times.
unborn girder
with 3 I knew I would overtake the team
what does this mean?
naive ember
meaning I knew id be able to katarina S3 before Juno moved to do anything
unborn girder
what? how fast is your kat?
naive ember
unborn girder
you expect this to be faster than juno?
naive ember
only because I had hit the defense once already. otherwise no I wouldnt have tried that offense
Team 5
unborn girder
yea this team is built really poorly
verde should be on cd
you have more speed than needed on both verde and tq
naive ember
Khmun vigor elucia works into 19, can sleep harmonia with elucia and u should be...
Hmm Ill keep that one in mind.
unborn girder
tq dmg looks really low/bad runes
naive ember
TQ was def stretching my runes.
and fair enough on Verde, he is the 'other verde' so got the lower tier of runes
unborn girder
only because I had hit the defense once already. otherwise no I wouldnt have tri...
i guess that's ok then. but still super odd to have your katarina at this speed... it doesn't make sense in 99% of situations.
naive ember
Yea that is fair, I am working on making another Rina as I tend to like her for that team more but thats probably due to how they are runed, especially Kat
unborn girder
and fair enough on Verde, he is the 'other verde' so got the lower tier of runes
anyway it's a great team. just fix the runes, add dmg and drop spd to both verde and tq
naive ember
anyway it's a great team. just fix the runes, add dmg and drop spd to both verde...
will do, what speed for them is ok? is jsut 205 tick for them ok?
unborn girder
will do, what speed for them is ok? is jsut 205 tick for them ok?
oof
silver elbow
just speed tuned, i dont think ticks matter in that team
silver elbow
^
unborn girder
naive ember
sorry yea..
unborn girder
your verde needs 185 spd (maybe 1 or 2 more with spd lead) to be tuned
oops sorry
didnt include the tq, the tq needs 119 spd to be spd tuned
naive ember
gotcha. thankks. yea tick comment was noobish. didnt sound right typing it out
naive ember
2 - i like the carbine idea here, but woosa into juno? makes no sense. also typi...
for this does Carbinne need to be pretty tanky since juno would be targeting him a lot?
unborn girder
should be runed as a bruiser
naive ember
kk
naive ember
Great? Decent? Crap? Maybe more speed.
unborn girder
205 tick is fine. i think you can actually drop some tankiness for more dmg
oh wait the sets are bad though
would opt for vamp or vio with destroy
naive ember
kk have very little vamp and destroy around. let me see what I can do
unborn girder
i mean overall i wouldn't invest too much on this
carbine is a niche monster and i personally wouldn't really recommend building him
it's just that i saw that in that case it was a pretty cool idea
naive ember
I see, well I'll see what I can make for him but certainly wont steal from more used teams
unborn girder
all the tesa odin riley counters - i don't really like any of your counters
you're going to run into more problems as you face better runed versions of this def with what you're using now
naive ember
hmm I see
unborn girder
the kat team is not the worst but i don't think you have it runed/tuned properly
the garo kahli team makes no sense with racuni? should be draco. and even with draco is still a bit iffy
i think you may be able to double nsipe it with bastet oberon but zerath is not a good +1
you definitely cannot copper dozer this
best cleave would be garo teon/kona cov
where you 1 shot the tesa with a fat cov and garo can solo odin
naive ember
Yea Kat team could be better, Bale is built for r5 so it makes it iffy.
Yea I do have Draco, I think I stole some of his runes recently so will look into that
I tend to favor chandra over Zerath in that comp but thought this would work better, certainly poor choice
I do have a teon/kona, need to look at their runes as I think I have to steal their runes from other boosters atm
unborn girder
you don't need a super fast booster for this def
there's no speed threat on it
19 - i don't think you understand how to bruiser and manipulate monster ai targeting properly
naive ember
I guess what is 'not super fast' in this realm?
unborn girder
I guess what is 'not super fast' in this realm?
at the very top end realistically you just need to be a bit over 286 tick
but in g1 i have no idea
can go much lower
naive ember
I find it varies a lot so hard to say. we are rank like 140 atm
unborn girder
if enemy threats/def breaks are light (kinki) and water (vigor) that means you use a dark tank + 2 wind so that your dark tank can tank all the main threats
if you use dark tank and a wind and a random water unit
now vigor can hit and def break your water unit and he dies
where is your triana
naive ember
Yea that makes sense, though in this case vigor and kinki both focused and viod chacha down
unborn girder
yea because you have no support for your tank
naive ember
trianas are sitting around and getting used. last two sieges I didnt bring her. I tend to use her with copper/immesity often or vigor/LM
unborn girder
yea neither of those make sense
naive ember
or like
unborn girder
sure but that's almost a waste, that def is so bad
silver elbow
i feel like u can beat that def with almost anything honestly
triana not really needed there
naive ember
yea that was a weird siege for sure... lot of bad defenses tbh
yea looking through history I guess triana isnt used much on offenses which I know is a mistake given her kit
naive ember
if enemy threats/def breaks are light (kinki) and water (vigor) that means you u...
ugh yea I just realized I was beinbg dumb there, was trying something else and poorly.
Common team I try to use is Triana, Delphoi, Chacha
unborn girder
bad mindset to think of common teams you use
should be thinking of common defs and then counters you use against them
naive ember
sorry I meant it that way, as in a common counter I use for that defense
unborn girder
what def
naive ember
the harm/vig/kinki
unborn girder
not a good team
not enough dmg
can easily get outdestroyed
instead of delphoi should run a wind bruiser like logan or fuco
naive ember
hmm makes sense, probably beenn getting by on not running into destroy that much even though it shouldbe expected
hmm not sure if I have either 6* maybe fuco. thanks ill look into that
unborn girder
i mean those are just suggestions there are dozens of viable options for that kind wind bruiser
naive ember
yea, fair point
unborn girder
you can even use that carbine if you want
it's the supports that are much more limited. nothing does what triana does
unborn girder
roid is ok. not my favorite here because damage is low. but yea it'll work