Need to fix my speedteam GB12

[worldly oar]

Hello, i'm struggling at GB12 with tricaru belial, it doesnt have 100% winrate but my runes are pretty good so i don't gget what is missing :/

all buildings maxed

[worldly oar]

(every other cairos dungeon is speed team 100% safe)

[frank tundra]

i dont have experience with that team so i cant help u but did u check #pve-team-showcase-archived already? im sure someone posted that team there with requirements and stuff u can check

[worldly oar]

i've checked many youtube videos

this guy for example https://imgur.com/4jMzKSE doesnt have much better runes than i DO

i mean, nevermind he has alot of defense for full fight

and no one using my team

Need to fix my speedteam GB12

[lost parrot]

You will need to check out #off-meta-fun for advice on this team. the help and advice channel is only for advice following the recommended teams and guides. So you will get more help in that channel with your questions

[worldly oar]

alright thank you, but tricaru isnt off meta? x) is it?

[lost parrot]

You arent running tricaru you are running belial and he 100% is outside the scope of these guides 😉

?gb12

[azure vector]

Order the GB12 team is upgraded and avg times

1. Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Shannon 3:00
2. Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Kro(2A) 1:20-1:50
3. Sigmarus Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 1:00-1:20
4. Lushen Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 0:24-1:00

=New players see ?justdoit =
=Returning players See below stats=

Sigmarus - SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 85% CR, 80k ehp, 140+ spd, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
Fran - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 180+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Loren - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 200+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Shannon - SPD/HP/[HP/DEF], 180+ spd, 60k ehp
Veromos - SPD/HP/HP, 180+ spd, 100k ehp
Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 140 spd and moving after Sig, 80K ehp, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs

1. Set boss focus: ?bossfocus
2. Acc makes runs more consistent, aim for 54% on all supports (loren,fran,Veromos ,shannon)
3. Turn order loren > Fran/Veromos/shannon > sig > kro(2A)
4. Vero and shannon can stay 5★ for now

STEPS TO IMPROVING GB12 (TEAM #2 AND BELOW) - spds are in combat spd

1. Must reach near average time of current team before moving to the next one
2. Vero can be moved to a bruiser build

• SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 80k ehp but tankier is safer, 85% CR, 180+ spd, [hp/def/att] artifacts depending on need
• 6★ Vero and devilmon

3. Improving Sig to his ?toa build along with reaching the same stats as above
4. Getting kro to or close to 169 (with max spd totem, only needs 45 spd from runes to hit 169 combat spd)
5. Hraesvelg replaces fran

• Stats should be - SPD/CD/HP, 130k ehp, 169 spd and moving before sig and kro, 70+ CR, rest into att/CD

6. Turn order for team #3: Loren > hraes > vero > sig > kro(2a)

WHEN TO ADD LUSHEN TO MY GB12 TEAM

1. when you get toward the end of progression, hit 10.3k per card with skill 3 and to at least 170 combat speed

[lost parrot]

off meta here refers to teams and plans that are outside of the optimal progression guides. not specifically something that isnt popular meta as a whole 😉

[tribal hornet]

tricaru belial is pretty populat

popular

but yes we dont really recommend that team

[worldly oar]

Hello, there may be a misunderstand :
I am not a new or midgame player, i don't run speedteams under a minute nowhere, solo BJ5 etc etc.
So I am not looking for an "optimal progression" or a beginner guide to run a team in 2 minutes.
I've seen a couple videos with lushen + tricaru + X, belial seeming to be the best monster for it, my runes are pretty decent, even if I could farm more fight runes to have icarus entirely runes in fight.
So if tricaru belial is not recommended for you (why?) what could i run to have consistent 25-35 sec please ?

[worldly oar]

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[lost parrot]

I think the misunderstanding is more on your side. the purpose of #1047269577614164098 is to assist people with progression following the guides contained within this channel. For teams that do not fall within those guides that is the purpose of #off-meta-fun . I know you are past the early game progression I merely posted the bot command as a reference to what is advised on here.
And despite the rune differences that you posted certainly meph and belial do not function the same way. And are you sure no one is using your team because I certainly know there are belial/lushn/tricaru videos out there along with the more prefered version replacing lushen with zerath but obviously ld5.
Also here is good ol Sheiishizo running your exact team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegVUA5Y-fo

[worldly oar]

yeah that's the video i checked ^^

[lost parrot]

and do your runes meet what he shows there and speed tuning and skillups and all that?

[worldly oar]

Kind of, he has better fight than I do and a Belial slightly better than mine. The speed order is respected, the lushen one shots the waves.
I thought there was a lot of players late game running my team and that one of those would have a look on my team to spot something I missed

[lost parrot]

I mean my end goal is to build the belial team but I lack the runes for belial/lushen still but my dot hybrid still works. It also seems like a dogmelia team is popular speed team Ive seen mentioned but not sure.

[lyric radish]

see team 4 in ?gb12 or ?dogmellia

belial tricaru is not a team we recommend people to build in this channel, its just not worth the investment and the rune req's are just not obtainable for the vast majority of people

the only faster team is that of ?trikro, dont really recommend as you need to make multiple kros

[hazy plover]

Just build the fire grim and dot team

From the sounds of it Ur pretty mid-late

[lyric radish]

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