Bj5 Importance? | Summoners War | Page 1

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Just a disclaimer, I still enjoy the game a lot and I'm up for grinding 24x7 lol

I've been stuck forever on bj5 I guess more than 1 month. Even though every now and then I get some nice rune which improves my Bale by small percentage.

But I'm really not able to understand why is bj5 or sr5 so important? What would I lose if I skip bj5 and continue running sr4 (which I can do without sweat)

Would it make my PVP & Siege content really hard?

I thought it would be explained in progressionexplained but I didn't get too much info from there.

It's a genuine question. Would appreciate a detailed answer please . 😇

wild gust May 12, 2023, 4:26 PM

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r4 isnt as efficient as r5

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thats it tbh

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the drops are worse

thorn furnace May 12, 2023, 4:27 PM

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think your under valuing the importance of grinds and gems by a considerable amount

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think of it like this

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you have 4 base sub stats (potentially 5 if u include the innate)

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you now can have it improve 4 times at +3/6/9/12

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you then have the potential of having it improve 4 more times if all 4 sub stats are grindable

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as for the r4 vs r5 debate, there isnt one

if it by far worse to do, thats its not worth mentioning

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:38 PM

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thorn furnace think your under valuing the importance of grinds and gems by a considerable amo...

I guess you are right. I just use them randomly (you must have seen me use a grind recently in the rune post)

Also what you said made a lot of sense to me.

Just one question, people decline my bj5 request cuz I've a Crit lead. Would it a good choice to buy the nine tailed fox from the summon event. It's been ages since she appeared in guild shop

thorn furnace May 12, 2023, 4:40 PM

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what about one of the other leads

wild gust May 12, 2023, 4:41 PM

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you can use a lupinus

thorn furnace May 12, 2023, 4:41 PM

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~~ignore the nat 5's ~~

wild gust May 12, 2023, 4:42 PM

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she has a cr lead

thorn furnace May 12, 2023, 4:43 PM

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should have atleast 2 different leads

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:52 PM

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I've the global Crit ones and the fire Crit ones but it's just nobody wants to join bj5.. Even my guild mates don't do bj5.. They are all happy grinding raid 4

nocturne arrow May 12, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Then you're in a bad guild

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Does your baley hit 32k?

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:54 PM

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The calculator says it should hit 32k idk if he really does

nocturne arrow May 12, 2023, 4:54 PM

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~~You can check in game by doing a run~~

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But it just takes patience

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Create a group, say it's bj5

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And wait for people to enter

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:55 PM

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I don't have anyone with a 40%attack lead hence I'm not able to ever test it

nocturne arrow May 12, 2023, 4:55 PM

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Random people

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Or get yourself the attack lead

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:56 PM

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nocturne arrow Or get yourself the attack lead

That's what I asked Ace a few posts above

nocturne arrow May 12, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Switching guilds can also be a solution

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:56 PM

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If it would be a good idea to choose nine tale from the summon event

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Idk how guilds work but our guild is like max level and consistently wins siege and world battles

zealous moss May 12, 2023, 4:57 PM

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People who join your bjr5 get the remaining leader skill in their party .

grand hull May 12, 2023, 4:57 PM

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So just for comparison the higher legend quantity one is r5

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 4:58 PM

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Any channel that still does bj5 in global...? The channel 65 recommended in the bj5 guide is like dead for bj5.

thorn furnace May 12, 2023, 4:59 PM

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this is because they came out with the lobbies now

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so its redundant

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also, no, it is not worth getthing the fire 9 tails from the pick yr nat 4 event

zealous moss May 12, 2023, 4:59 PM

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As for rejecting the request. Its bare minimum for bale to hit 32k , people usually check your bale to make sure you will hit hard enough.

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Lack of damage result in wipe

chrome ridge May 12, 2023, 5:01 PM

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Thanks for all the input guys.
I guess I'll keep working on Bale and be patient for people to join the party 😇

Thanks a lot. It really helped a lot

chrome ridge May 13, 2023, 5:34 PM

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@thorn furnace for some reason my Dagora refuses to self revive after he dies from 1st hit any idea what would be the cause?

sage pond May 13, 2023, 5:35 PM

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chrome ridge <@287287235118891008> for some reason my Dagora refuses to self revive after he ...

are you using will runes on him? else, the boss can deactivate his passive

chrome ridge May 13, 2023, 5:37 PM

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sage pond are you using will runes on him? else, the boss can deactivate his passive

Ohhh shoot I thought he needed 3 fight.. Thanks

grand hull May 13, 2023, 8:06 PM

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So on this note if you had trouble having people join or had trouble with people leaving this would 100% be a contributing factor for me. I’d instantly leave if I saw an error like this and I usually checked for them

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:47 AM

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@grand hull @sage pond it still doesn't work.. Idk what could be the reason for it

sage pond May 14, 2023, 12:49 AM

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Really stupid question; is he awakened?

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@chrome ridge

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:50 AM

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Yep

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sage pond May 14, 2023, 12:51 AM

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It did revive

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Janssen made the revive

sage pond May 14, 2023, 12:52 AM

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go to second 5

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and look just above baley

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you can rotate your camera in the fight btw

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so you can see your team better; just press down and drag to the side

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:54 AM

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I'll check it @sage pond gimme a second

sage pond May 14, 2023, 12:55 AM

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its really hard to see, but here he lives due to self revive before janssen has moved

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:56 AM

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@sage pond oh yes I rotated my party and he does revive... Sorry to bother you

sage pond May 14, 2023, 12:56 AM

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No problem, glad I could help

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 12:56 AM

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Thanks a lot

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:01 AM

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Also

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This indicates that branding was on the boss before the last hit

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And you got 34k

sage pond May 14, 2023, 1:09 AM

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its with missing fire atk lead, that should be the cause for the low damage in the replay

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:09 AM

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Is that a good thing or bad..?

If I skill up Jansen would it mess the bj5?

sage pond May 14, 2023, 1:10 AM

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chrome ridge Is that a good thing or bad..? If I skill up Jansen would it mess the bj5?

Baley should hit 32k with his last hit w/o branding

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Our team has a res lead and a def lead.. I'm missing the attack lead

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:11 AM

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You shouldn't be using bj5

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With these people

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The baleygr team, is made to work with two other people that run the baleygr team

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Just different leaderskill

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A bj5 team alongside normal, slow teams. Causes fails

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:12 AM

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This is the 1st party list in a month which is working and I think we all know it's slow but I guess we all three were looking for a working team lol

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:13 AM

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It is difficult to say who is at fault, if there even is something wrong

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:14 AM

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The thing is I die shortly after the jump since Jansen already used his revive pre jump

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:14 AM

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In which set up

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With other people running bj5

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Or with other people running whatever team

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:15 AM

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No with this team

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But they have been keeping me for the prejumpp dMage I guess

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:15 AM

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That's normal

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Because bj5 isn't designed to take hits

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I don't see what's difficult to understand

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:16 AM

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I changed the lead to lapis and added windy to smooth the run but it messed up pretty bad.. 2.30mins again out 1.30mins

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:16 AM

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Bj5 is supposed to only be run with other bj5

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:17 AM

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Yeah I know that bj5 is a niche but again the server doesn't allow to make other team before bj5 is complete 😓

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Everytime I tried to ask questions other than bj5 I was told to follow the progression

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:17 AM

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For how long

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:18 AM

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For a month now I guess

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:18 AM

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Have you been running a dagora on 3x fight

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Or rather "without will"

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Yeah that was a mistake I didn't realize..

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:20 AM

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That mistake, caused parties that you were a part of to be disbanded

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:21 AM

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Now that you say that to be very honest. Nobody took me in their bj5 party 😅

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:21 AM

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Bj5, has no variables.
It always completes in 27 seconds

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:22 AM

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I hope now I don't get kicked.
I'd start making the team as per the beginners guide now cuz I think I've a working bj5

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Or should I continue to stick with bj5?

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Your sentence doesn't make any sense to me

sage pond May 14, 2023, 1:23 AM

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chrome ridge Or should I continue to stick with bj5?

yes, you should stick to bj5, there is no upgrade to bj5

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:23 AM

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I was talking about the solo team in the beginner guide

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:24 AM

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Okay, wait

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Let's reset to why this help channel exists on this server

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:25 AM

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I pressed the wrong button.. This doesn't look good 😓

nocturne arrow May 14, 2023, 1:25 AM

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We, want to get you.
Through all of pve, while using the least amount of runes and the least amount of 6*s

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The difference between #1047269577614164098 and #1048720511905050734

Is.

Time and resources

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Once you have a functional bj5 team, keep it. And use it

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#1048720511905050734 avoids bj5, and builds a slow team, thrice.

Which as a result requires to 6* 18 monsters and use 108 runes

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The benefit, is.
That you can raid alone at whatever time you want. As you don't rely on team mates

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The downside is, #1048720511905050734 that it's a slow team

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Bj5, requires 2 6*s and each run takes ~27 seconds

With the downside being that you need 2 more people that also ru bj5

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:32 AM

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I completely understand.. I am actually very grateful for the server. Without it I would have stopped playing a long time ago. I have completed all the progression through the guides (lumel is consistent, SSS in all beasts is also done).. I asked the question cuz I thought the next step after bj5 would be a solo team..

I don't mind using bj5 I was just confused with the next step I guess

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Thanks for all the inputs. Probsz and Sky Nick 😇

sage pond May 14, 2023, 1:38 AM

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regarding the next steps, as an idea
If you're now done with progression and just finished your bj5, you should farm grinds and gems for now, as they improve your overall rune quality...
Then you can start to have a look into pvp and start to invest more in that eventually

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 1:57 AM

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@sage pond thanks for the detailed next step guidance 😇

chrome ridge May 14, 2023, 3:45 AM

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I'm happy with this.

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#Bj5 Importance?