In RTA, I swear I've sped up all my mons to be fairly fast. Then I got put up against someone whose characters have less speed than I have. So I think 'oh my go will be first then'. Mind you I also had a leader skill which increased speed 19%. So we start the match and that person goes first?? I'm wondering whether the first turn has anything to do with attack speed or what? Someone tell me whyyy!!
#RTA speed
grave geyser
trail belfry
how many speed are we talking abt, what does fairly fast mean?
also what kinda big said is true
its just that the enemy has leo or u are getting outspeeded
grave geyser
how many speed are we talking abt, what does fairly fast mean?
also what kinda b...
My team averaged around 150 speed and the enemy averaged 100 speed. And no I wasn't against a Leo
valid fern
ok 150 speed is nothing
and B) u cant tell how much they 'average'
like for reference
having a sslot 2 spd at +15 and only that, will give a monster of 100 spd base, 142spd
150 is dirt slow
trail belfry
My team averaged around 150 speed and the enemy averaged 100 speed. And no I was...
u should probably not play RTA tbh
valid fern
and that too ^
distant hatchBOT
Scenarios > GB12 > ToaN100 > S+ Ranked Water & Fire Rift [1] > ToaH100 > Tricaru > Bj5 > Lumel b5 > S+ Rank All Rifts
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grave geyser
Nah I hadn't completed Toa yet
trail belfry
u dont wanna touch RTA rn
u dont wanna touch RTA before u completed all of this list
trail belfry
like for example this is my bernhard and i would say he is still too slow
RTA is the most end game content in the game probably
grave geyser
how do you get the speed so high then is it just swift runes and artifacts?
trail belfry
but u cant farm runes and grinds before completing pve
do u have ur giants 12 team already?
trail belfry
can u show a pic of ur monster box? so i can see where u at in progression and if there is something u should do rn
grave geyser
Sure thing itll take a second to load onto it
ok some I really regret taking to 6* (like shiwha) but yeh this is what I have
trail belfry
okay yes u r investing too many ressources and stuff u wont need for along long time
first of all
?nat5
distant hatchBOT
Almost all nat5 monsters are not useful in pve. They generally excel in pvp, stick to the guides for pve.
grave geyser
Rica, Mellia, Kaki, Aahliah, Sara
valid fern
damn.
grave geyser
😭
trail belfry
i have no idea how this even clears gb12
okay pokey
we gonna fix your account now okay?
grave geyser
let's do this lmao
trail belfry
because atleast 98% of the monsters i see on these screenshots
should not be there
first thing: when u get a nat 5, put it in ur storage, u will use it after pve
?justdoit
distant hatchBOT
trail belfry
https://i.imgur.com/CWxaMrk.png
this should be ur gb12 team
ur first one
but u can probably skip it when u already farmed gb12 a bit
just wondering.. how long does it take per run?
trail belfry
let's do this lmao
?gb12
distant hatchBOT
Order the GB12 team is upgraded and avg times
- Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Shannon 3:00
- Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Kro(2A) 1:20-1:50
- Sigmarus Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 1:00-1:20
- Lushen Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 0:24-1:00
=New players see ?justdoit =
=Returning players See below stats=
Sigmarus - SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 85% CR, 80k ehp, 140+ spd, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
Fran - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 180+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Loren - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 200+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Shannon - SPD/HP/[HP/DEF], 180+ spd, 60k ehp
Veromos - SPD/HP/HP, 180+ spd, 100k ehp
Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 140 spd and moving after Sig, 80K ehp, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
- acc makes runs more consistent, aim for 54% on all supports (loren,fran,Veromos ,shannon)
- Turn order loren > Fran/Veromos/shannon > sig > kro(2A)
- Vero and shannon can stay 5★ for now
STEPS TO IMPROVING GB12 (TEAM #2 AND BELOW) - spds are in combat spd
- Must reach near average time of current team before moving to the next one
- Vero can be moved to a bruiser build
- SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 80k ehp but tankier is safer, 85% CR, 180+ spd, [hp/def/att] artifacts depending on need
- 6★ Vero and devilmon
- Improving Sig to his ?toa build along with reaching the same stats as above
- Getting kro to or close to 169 (with max spd totem, only needs 45 spd from runes to hit 169 combat spd)
- Hraesvelg replaces fran
- Stats should be - SPD/CD/HP, 130k ehp, 169 spd and moving before sig and kro, 70+ CR, rest into att/CD
- Turn order for team #3: Loren > vero > hraes > sig > kro(2a)
WHEN TO ADD LUSHEN TO MY GB12 TEAM
- when you get toward the end of progression, hit 10.3k per card with skill 3 and to at least 170 combat speed
trail belfry
use this to improve ur giants team
the second team with 1:20-1:50 time is completely fine for the beginning, when u done that u can go to the next pve step
grave geyser
So I just checked and don't laugh lol bt my best time is 3:34
So per run its probably 4 minues
valid fern
im more surprised that its not 10minutes
trail belfry
same honestly
grave geyser
lmao
trail belfry
u can have a way faster team in like 3 days of playing
trail belfry
**Order the GB12 team is upgraded and avg times**
1. Sigmarus Veromos Fran Lore...
anyway, focus on the second team here
when u have any questions u can ping me, but that should be ur first goal now
grave geyser
I'm tryna get to the veromos fusion atm then I just need sigmarius
distant hatchBOT
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trail belfry
please tell me u r using lapis as ur faimon hell farmer?
grave geyser
when u have any questions u can ping me, but that should be ur first goal now
Alr then ill look at that. And thanks!!
No I use kaki he's way faster
trail belfry
how fast is ur kaki?
trail belfry
i mean if hes already built
it depends tbh, lapis can do it really fast with free runes, he should not use good runes on kaki when he could use it for pve teams
grave geyser
becuase its not going to be fast
Yep 133
trail belfry
but tbh i think kaki can do it with 0 runes lol
kaki should take longer then lapis tho and i think he needs more runes lol
valid fern
i tihnk it would fluctuate tbh
sometimes faster sometimes slower
but really it doesnt matter
trail belfry
It does matter depending on the runes he got on his kaki, i really dont want him to waste good runes for a faimon farmer
grave geyser
lapis should be doing it with the free set u get for her in like 30-1:00 lol
I mean I can try with lapis?
trail belfry
but it will be fine probably
trail belfry
I mean I can try with lapis?
do u have the free set on her? the vamp revenge one
6* runes
grave geyser
Yep
valid fern
yea then u should use lapis
grave geyser
Alright 👍
grave geyser
Nvm actually I just got 37 seconds with kaki
trail belfry
can u show ur kaki stats?
valid fern
i mean there is a chance that
he wont even use the kaki rune
on the other things for giants and stuff
grave geyser
trail belfry
yea thats why i wanna see the kaki stats
grave geyser
He's on fatal and revenge
valid fern
not the point
trail belfry
okay so
just use kaki for farming because he is slightly faster, but when u need runes from him, dont hesitate to take kakis runes and use them for ur giants team
u can still use lapis
trail belfry
true
grave geyser
alr I'll try
I can change it to attack +(number) or attack +(percentage) but percentage has lower stars
trail belfry
percentage will be better still probably
u dont really ever play flat stat runes on slot 2/4/6, except speed because speed only exist as a flat stat
only exception is when u got a flat stat rune on 4/6 with 30+ speed
grave geyser
u dont really ever play flat stat runes on slot 2/4/6, except speed because spee...
Yeh I try not to play with flat stat mostly percentage
grave geyser
50% of 1000 is 500atk
Fair point lol
valid fern
it wont even matter if u have flat tbh
its only faimon
and kaki is fucking strong like that
anything better than cd
valid fern
ur subs wont even matter
just have the main stats
of atk%/atk%/atk% or spd/atk%/atk%
neither will ur set matter
trail belfry
yea thats looking better already
grave geyser
Atk is a lot higher now that's great
distant hatchBOT
Beginning (during ?progression) :
Farm Steel Fortress/Punishers Crypt B1-2, Fill both slots with a White/Normal rarity artifact [1] that has a main stat fitting the mon's use. Substats don't matter.
Later (end of ?progression):
Read #1091799234010943648.
Farm SF/PC10 for Blue/Rare+ quality replacements, taking substats in consideration. Because of the extreme variance in substats, a good main stat + decent double roll on a relevant substat, or good substat rolls with a "mismatched" main stat are excellent for a long time.
?artifactsinfo #bot-commands for more information about artifacts. Note [1] is explained in ?artifactsinfo .
grave geyser
I've been struggling on punisher crypt
That's why I'm building string master as she can block beneficial effects temporarily
valid fern
u dont need to do pc10 rn
all u have to do is
just farm giants
and do toa on side
?stayingiants
distant hatchBOT
WHEN YOU ARE STARTING, IT IS NOT A RUSH TO GET OUT OF GB12.
Most players have the ideology that they should go to ice rift and make Tricaru RIGHT AWAY. This is not a good idea for a few reasons:
- No time is wasted farming GB12. It is important to improve the runes on your account that specifically from GB12. End game players continue to farm GB12 endlessly.
- The biggest advantage to getting ice rift set up ASAP is it gives you access to crafting reappraisals. Outside of that, there is no significant advantage to achieving S+ rank in ice rift quickly.
- The rune requirements for ice rift are significantly lower than those required for Verde in tricaru. If you are struggling to consistently achieve S+ rank in ice rift, there's no way your DD runes are where they need to be to build Verdehile.
Beginner playthrough looks cool with how fast the progression is- tricaru gets set up very fast! However, there are some things to that are imperative to understand. The person who completed this playthrough has immense rune knowledge/pattern recognition, which very few players have. Because of this, it will take you longer to get the same runes used in Beginner Playthrough 2022. The second thing, to once again reemphasize; ALL TIME spent in giants is valuable. When you first start doing siege, you will need decent swift runes. These will allow you to run more cleaves, securing easy wins and more resources through crystal income. Fatal/blade runes are also very important to cleaving. Rage is NOT significantly better than fatal. The difference is so small you may as well consider them the same set.
In summary- go farm giants more. Don't rush. The very first run of giants you do could get you a rune that you use for the rest of your time playing the game. Learn more about what runes are valuable and roll your blues. There are good examples of this in Beginner Playthrough 2022. This will make your progression much smoother.
grave geyser
Aight then. I'm tryna fuse veromos so I can use that gb12 team
trail belfry
I've been struggling on punisher crypt
u only need to do stage 1 to get white artifacts
kaki can probably solo it
its just alot of free stats
grave geyser
ohh okay ill give it a go 👍
grave geyser
Just need to awaken my monsters for veromos fusion now
grave geyser
Ok I've got Vero and I'm gonna rank up my Fran to 6* rn
grave geyser
@trail belfry @valid fern hi hope you're doing well. I just got super angelmon so who do you think I should do max 6 star with? some chars are for fusion so ignore chars like martial cat
