#BJ5 team in solo r5 failing

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timber compass
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Seems to be hitting 2 out of the 3 teams, if thats the case why is bj5 within the solo r5 team a thing? Since it can't possibly be 100% reliable?

timber compass
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In most youtube videos the boss does it all 3 teams, whereas for me it's 100% that he hits 2 out of 3 teams 🤔

timber compass
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Bump

remote bridge
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Okay, explain this again in the fewest words possible

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Also seeing as you keep mentioning Loren and her speed

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There is a command to use that gives you the speeds needed

timber compass
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So solo r5 has 3 teams, normally all 3 teams get hit initially. Somehow only 2 teams seem to be getting hit at random.

My question is why and how to fix it. Since BJ doesn't work when it doesn't get hit.

remote bridge
timber compass
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What is the maximum spd? My fastest unit of each team is: Shaina +93, Loren +76, Hwa +81

remote bridge
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for bj5, all the stuff is written in ?bj5

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?bj5

bitter cryptBOT
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FAQ
Q: What is BJ5?
A: BJ5 stands for Baleygr, Janssen, Raid 5. Which is a team that consistently clears the raid in 27seconds while having a 100% success rate.

**Q: What makes this different from the PDF found in #1048681073502068917? **
A: The fact that this is SWOP friendly, meaning all these stats are combat speeds and combat eHP's.
SWOP stands for Summoners War Optimizer, use ?swop in #bot-commands for more info.

Q: Do I need Rage for Baleygr?
A: No, You only need a will set, the rest can be whatever.

Q: Who needs to be 6★'d for BJ5?
Baleygr is required. Janssen should be to reduce rune requirements, but it is not technically required. Typically Colleen and Loren are left at 5★.

Q: Loren is usually 5★? But I already 6★'d her for GB12!
You should be making a second Loren for BJ5.

Q: Where to find the runes?
A: Will for Bale can be obtained early by crafting, by doing Labyrinth and farming a bit of NB12 after tricaru is made.
Fight runes do not have to be anything special, any quality between 2-6* works. You can get these through crafting, labyrinth or just rift beast drops.

Q: Is my Bale good enough?
Click → https://tinyurl.com/37uk8vxx ← for a calculator.

https://imgur.com/0SjdEDj

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timber compass
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I already checked that

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No info about the max spd

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Or boss not hitting all the teams

remote bridge
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you state "Since BJ doesn't work when it doesn't get hit."

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so when I read that

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I see that as "Bale's team doesn't work if it doesn't get hit"

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i run sr5, with the same monsters as in ?sr5

white saffronBOT
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Probsz4? Never heard of him/her - Account doesn't exist or not public.

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Probsz4? Never heard of him/her - Account doesn't exist or not public.

timber compass
# remote bridge I see that as "Bale's team doesn't work if it doesn't get hit"

When the boss moves, but skips bale team, I don't get stacks, colleen doesn't do s3, bale does s1 or s3 at random having one stack, and all the lvl 1 mons attack instead of just dieing. I have top 100 runes of this server but when the bale team does maybe 40k dmg in total, the current teams I have next to it don't do enough to consistently solo. I can easily make two saver teams next to it. But my question is, why does the boss only hit 2 teams randomly? While for others it hits 3 teams. What values can I change to improve the reliability of the bj team?

remote bridge
timber compass
remote bridge
timber compass
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Bale is +62, colleen is +61

remote bridge
# timber compass When the boss moves, but skips bale team, I don't get stacks, colleen doesn't do...

Time to counter your question.
(I am able to answer your question, but I'll have to wait until I'm at home to do so, at work and certain websites are blocked by default.)
if you have the top 100 runes, then why run Iunu and not Dagora?
Colleen derping happens, which is why the default team has Dagora runed up at lv3-6 to trigger Colleens heal AI

I checked your bj5 turn order, they do not outspeed the boss therefore he should always attack first

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Iunu is used, to delay Baleygr
Baleygr is delayed, to give the side teams, the time to deal damage
with the top 100 runes on this server, you should be able to build a Bale that hits 40k as opposed to the needed 32k for bj5

timber compass
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Yea, my bale does overkill, I switched to dagora last week seeing if that would do anything but the same thing happens. Just confused why the boss skips a team mainly, I can still build around the issue. But I still like to understand why

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Going to practice now, will be back in a couple of hours

remote bridge
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Do you have a be swarfarm

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And if yes, can you replicate the teams on there

timber compass
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Haven't used swarfarm in recent years

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But the speed tuning, ehp and stuff is all correct, don't think you're going to learn anything from looking at my monsters

remote bridge
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@timber compass okay, to answer the speed value question
The boss's speed = 192

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however, regardless of this speed value, there is 1 instance in which a head will attack.
So having higher speed doesn't always mean outspeeding the boss's first attack

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Then we get the dog team
You have Fria in the backline.
The boss either attacks the front or the entire team.

The dog team is also supposed to be on ~100k eHP
Which makes them survive the jump attack if they're at full HP.

With fria surviving, the frontline dies in the jump attack
Giving you less damage beyond the 2nd half

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There shouldn't be an instance in which Bale's team derps.
Having checked their speeds, they're at ~180 combat speed (i checked while i was at work)
which puts them in teh fast category, which is still below 192

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Dagora / Iunu should be on will
Leaderskill straight up dies +3 stacks
Colleen's attack buff = 4 stacks
Bale's initial Will = 5 stacks

During jump, Colleen & Dagora / Iunu dies again. +6 stacks

timber compass
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🤔 I have two units who do outspeed, shaina and kahli the 192 both in the same team (left side) but the other teams get skipped as well.
I switched fria a few days ago just to try things out, it's front line in my deck.

But non of this is what I am wondering about, I only want to know why the boss only attacks two teams, when its suppose to hit all 3 initially right?

remote bridge
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it doesn't skip the attack

timber compass
remote bridge
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or rather, there's no reason for it to skip the attack

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so in this case, i'd want video proof

timber compass
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I can stream now