is there another good way to hit seara orion perna/rakan except TWL?
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frank bramble
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dont have either of them so rip
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Definitely not me still missing a fucking garo lol
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but i got my 230130210 wind ninja out of my legendary toa scroll
i think i just need to wait, i dont see any good attacks rn, thanks for the help tho
wary bough
this is a double snipe comp
since molly got nerfed it's much simpler
i don't remember if you own bastet or not
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i do
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I know i've spoken recently with some people about snipe comps
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talked abt that already, bastet +2 ignore def DD
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You can use praline also if you end up runing multiple double snipes
There are some other angles
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thats really helpful rn because im actually doing a google sheets document rn
where i just write down defenses and the counters for them
so i can just look at that and have a idea how to attack specific defenses
and ofc also try to understand why and how the counters work
so i can come up with teams myself
wary bough
if you owned tiana this would be a decent place to use it with cheongpung. you can do cheongpung sav tiana or galleon cheongpung tiana.
there's another funny one you can do. mo eladriel harmonia. the ideal is that mo long is going to go for harmonia (you put your strongest -water here and stack as much hp as possible, violent/nem is pretty good here) and then you're going to snipe the molly/mo long (depending upon what happens) and 3v2. eladriel makes it a bit safer. there's still the possibility that mo goes and molly procs several times or theomars goes batshit but this is a tier 2 counter you could consider if you ran out of options
basically the reason you want as much hp as possible on harmonia, aside from obvious reasons, is that you really do want to be able to delete mo long instantly, and mo long can straight up just go down to practically no hp instantly and even if molly procs, you can most likely still kill mo or you can use harm s3 on molly and delete her instead
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Sounds pretty funny actually lol, also thats a reason to atleast not be completely disappointed when i pull a eladriel lol
wary bough
its really good if you can kill molly instantly here
depending upon what happens
because if you do then mo is very sad with no hp
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what would u play here? i asked for this in the past with carcano instead of Iunu, the answer was cleave, but idk if Iunu could make cleave more difficult
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nah i wouldn't cleave this
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yea thought so
wary bough
i'd be fine with cleaving it with leah or recleaving with something like scarlett lushen +resurge if my guildies did it. otherwise i wouldn't like it so much.
khmun racuni covenant is an option here, albeit not completely safe. there's a few ways you can lose but i feel like most of the time in g1 you'll be fine. you just shoot liu mei and 2v2
if you want to bruiser it, something like triana chacha roid is decent. worth nothing here if you do this, you don't bother with res on anyone since there is the accuracy lead skill
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Sounds good, noted
wary bough
i feel like i hit this defense not too long ago
ahhh no. it was iunu figaro vigor
different one
there was another with clara iunu liu mei that you just khmun racuni malite
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yea have a full tower of this defense here, dont think i can attack it with my units left tho
wary bough
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also there are 2 random LD5 tower which confuses me alot and i have no idea how to attack them lol
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sure 1 sec
Honestly, i attacked this def because for some reason im blind and thought thats a woosa, and i was like, yea i can kahli cov that
well
no
it was not a woosa
i do
not build
yea im just waiting rn because i see no simple attack, im 1 win 2 loses rn, 1 lose because the woosa nigoong incident
im so broke, i 6* so much
im out of nat 3 almost
im actually so good at this game
i swop it later lol
sure xD
my swift runes are something special
not really
toa sometimes
but
not needed
admit it you are just jelous of my runes
wait i did hit lulu? i missclicked LMAO
i got missclicked gap
actually +15 arti on lushen would have won the fight lol
i dont use him in giants
yes
same, i lost 1 fight to missclick and the other because im blind
no no no
rage mephisto
would have smurfed that
insta kill
yea i think i just need to wait for new towers
yea i need like swift runes, despair runes, rage runes, vio runes
everything
we should stop using cringe vio runes
every unit on tolerance
lost because of no tolerance runes
not like my +31 vio bernhard rune back then lol
i learned nigong is indeed not woosa
why the fuck is mana locked behind 3 packs
its mana
just buy enough crystals
its so bad
like
so fucking bad+
worth
easy mana
before i can spend money for mana packs, i need to spend money for swop pro
i have some 1 stars
give some rainbow mons
and kinki skillups
i did
but
i still need moreee
op
it would be even better with a rune more
well he is offline for 24 days, i dont think i can tell him
look how i pull my tiana now
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@wary bough
we have this
we have this
we have this
okay yea t hats it
i think
wary bough
we have this
is that vereesa or leah?
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vereesa
wary bough
we have this
this one is standard. there are a few angles
julie cleave is usually what people go for these days
my favorite counter to this defense is not f2p
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so im doing this and tell u how hard i got rune gapped?
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i have op runes, my galleone 5 star stats are better then every g3 6* galleone
trust
wary bough
the best counter in my personal opinion is carbine jubelle molly
carbine just gets turns non stop. it's really strong
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the best counter in my personal opinion is carbine jubelle molly
when u give me like all of this
then sure
would u roll this btw?
wary bough
jultan delphoi triana is also not bad. wind DD + chacha + triana is workable (but susceptible to rng)
now the other defenses
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oh there is also another new tower with defenses
basically just these 2 defeses alot of times
wary bough
we have this
this one you can garo draco kahli. julie cleave also will usually work. tractor windy lulu is a little bit scary but on average is probably workable as a tier 2 counter perhaps
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basically just these 2 defeses alot of times
these are tough too
the louise kinki miles one is logan chacha triana
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this actually looks so incredible toxic
wary bough
malite lulu vigor for the second one. this is my preferred counter
for premium counters:
bolverk amellia windy (even though miles is here, it's still fine in this case) works fine
lastly i'll give you a very interesting counter that i think is quite good but does not see much use since, well, for starters, it contains a nat 5 most people don't really build and requires 2 nat 5s. there are alternatives to xing zhe here, but xing zhe borgnine lulu. normally windy would work but miles makes windy kind of shoot yourself in the foot, so you want to avoid that. anyways, borgnine on a standard violent destroy build, xing zhe on violent destroy (tanky here, speed is not as important, 205 tick at least though)
as the battle goes on, it becomes very simple. borgnine makes you take very, very little damage in a destroy battle. i personally think he is quite underrated and this is a case where he can be excellent
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Also got Laima theomars Ophelia and Triana vigor Julianne which are new
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malite lulu vigor for the second one. this is my preferred counter
for premium ...
i have the bolverk, missing the horse tho
(im not really answering fast rn btw because im writing it all down in the google sheet document i mentioned, really helpful advice)
wary bough
this actually looks so incredible toxic
this one is tough. i wouldn't hit this
if you own juno this is very manageable
otherwise i'd avoid it
wait hold on
is that kiki or nana?
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kiki
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if you own juno this is very manageable
imagine owning any oracle, could not be me
wary bough
that being said
this is a tough defense
i don't have any excellent counters for you. this is one you have to skip
strange steeple
yea it's not great
but trying to bruiser it out is even worse
contrary to popular belief, vero/tetra/juno does NOT counter kiki
wary bough
could you explain why?
strange steeple
you get 100-0'ed with some procs
ok its an exaggeration
most common counter would be to use some combination of those units to bruiser
wary bough
right, but it's not as safe as it seems
strange steeple
and it's not the worst
but yea it's no where near as safe as you'd think
i never bruiser kiki anymore
wary bough
i trust you on this one
strange steeple
unless there's not a strong stripper and i can do immunity
wary bough
i have not faced many kikis, and when i do
strange steeple
but nora is a very strong stripper
wary bough
i do not bruiser kiki
and you know how i am with that. i always bruiser. i've heard enough horror stories to either skip or go in and cleave if possible
man kiki manon is some toxic shit actually i thought it was nana to begin with
i just remembered her leader skill
but yeah zaraki
to be honest
i'm not going to say you should unconditionally avoid manon, because you shouldn't, but since you're still learning and very limited box + runes
most of the times there are a few units where
if you see them, just don't worry about it
i don't want you to instantly be scared of LD defenses
because
as i explained earlier
that one with nigong
was
strange steeple
most lds suck
wary bough
very bad
strange steeple
kiki is one of the few that does not suck
you should absolutely be terrified of kiki
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yea im not scared of LD defenses, i just dont really know how to attack them so i ask to learn, today i learned kiki is scary and manon is toxic
(i already knew manon is toxic but i will say that 100 times because god damn is manon toxic)
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Even without mephisto this is very solvable
but only when u know its nigong and dont think its woosa
wary bough
To be honest
A lot of us during last siege tourney were waiting for kiki manon to show up in grand finals
Still don't know what happened
Guess non kiki owners
Or Martina Manon Shaina too op
wary bough
Pretty darn solid unit
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Molong iris Sav, what abt that
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Hope you will improve that jx. Disappointment was immeasurable and my siege tourney viewing experience ruined
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yea not pulling kiki is kinda a skill issue
good players would pull 3 kikis out of 3 ld scrolls
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oh another new tower got unlocked, surely i find something to attack there 
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oh another new tower got unlocked, surely i find something to attack there <:Cop...
actually i lied, it gets unlocked in 30 min im dumb
wary bough
Yeah I can't come up with anything. Sorry. This one is hard for you
You can't see beyond it yet?
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Yeah I can't come up with anything. Sorry. This one is hard for you
thats fine
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You can't see beyond it yet?
what do u mean (i cant english)
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oh yes
a tower is building rn
can attack it in 30 min
there is stuff like that
this seems julie cleavable right?
(when i would have a 6* galleone)
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used it already, but good to know
yea i used copper bulldozer imesety today, thought it was free, but then the unit survived the 50k bulldozer hit
and i was like
what
wary bough
tesa racuni windy would be able to make it through this most likely
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let me see
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tesa racuni windy would be able to make it through this most likely
used windy for TWL
wary bough
yeah, I know
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Wind Bruiser/tanks i assume?
wary bough
yes somethingl ike this
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domenik
wary bough
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skogul
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also savannah but my runes suck lol
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do you have skogul runed on vamp with 100% res?
ofc not 
wary bough
ok
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wait i send my skogul
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op
wary bough
it's ok
that is actually 100% res with tesa
the only problem is i'm concerned about his ability to sustain
i think riley would be your best option here as the +1
it's very possible
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my riley seems shit rn, but maybe i can swop her
wary bough
racuni
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lemme see what i can do
wary bough
violent endure, energy, whatever
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i can actually +15 her slot 2 rune
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actually
wary bough
that is very important
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yeah
go do that
riley is a great unit
eventually you want her independently on 100% res
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sadly no skillups yet
wary bough
but let's take steps there
it's fine
she works without them
you do want them
but she works
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she needs 239 speed after tower right?
wary bough
Yes
stable raven
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Yes
Comp worked really good, easiest win of my life :)
with the most cursed tesa runes u ever saw probably
strange steeple
those tesa stats don't look bad at all glances down at sets Oh
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those tesa stats don't look bad at all *glances down at sets* Oh
Thats the new meta, u gonna trust
Vio, Revenge, all of these are overrated, 1 destroy set + broken runes, thats op
wary bough
honestly
this is what we be doing when we be starting
at least it's destroy
soon we'll add revenge
perhaps even a violent set in the future, some might hope
in all seriousness i actually am guilty of committing a sin
i put my absolute best runes on one unit before defense and it's simply because i cannot make a proper tesa set without doing so
because tesa is god slayer monster
in the future when i have fat stacks of cash i will actually play the game correctly with any luck and build defenses before tesa
but my god the stat requirements on this monster are something to have him built really well
and also he is slayer of gods
i want 8 more tesarion
moral of what i'm trying to say is
don't do what i do, but do prioritize tesa, he's really freaking good
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don't do what i do, but do prioritize tesa, he's really freaking good
Will prio him, because he feels actually really good to play
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I should rune up my defense before next siege starts
Maybe its getting used
Sadly i dont get any viable despair runes for clara lol
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@wary bough are u here rn and have time?
wary bough
hello, i'm spending time with my partner
do you need help with something?
i'll reply as i can
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im trying to rune my defense up rn, would like some opinions, dont need to be rn tho, enjoy ur time with ur partner :)
ill just post the pics and u can answer when u have time
can get like 15-20 more speed with grinds i think and some more ehp
sadly cant really go for a valid offset rn because my stats would suffer ALOT
round plinth
its probably a more personal thing but i would not use a vio rune as broken
just rune allocation efficiency wise
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Fair, i just dont have any other monster i would play this rune on rn, so it would be on mav which im not using anyway so its just not used, and i think the rune is pretty good for Clara
wary bough
I would wait until FRR to fix your defenses more if you can
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oh yea i can do that, fair point
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@wary bough hi
its not up2date actually
2 attacks missing i think
but the 2 missing attacks were just desperate trys with random units so yea
wary bough
I am surprised how much Europe uses this khmun liu mei vigor defense
It's not that I think it is bad either
wary bough
If I was playing siege and this was popular I would build more of my favorite counter which I think we have discussed?
Do you remember?
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Not really rn, i thought it was TWL thats why i tried it but i dont think it was TWL
because i had no dmg to get through khmun shield
i know julie cleave would also work when i 6* galleone
wary bough
Oh wait I was thinking of the perna variant haha. I still think the counter is decent though. Jultan Lulu vigor
Only problem is that liu mei can switch on vigor def break
So let me think about a better counter for the vigor variant
wary bough
He is! Sry coming home, need a few
pseudo crest
u should have swapped attack 1 and 4's offenses
Thats really true
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He is! Sry coming home, need a few
all good
wary bough
#1 - Malite lulu vigor/Julie cleave. Jultan vigor lulu/elucia is also valid. The issue is vigor can defense lulu and then its very difficult because liu mei will start hitting
#2 - So if you go copper the eshir, you should be able to win by bulldozering the ursha. That being said I don't think it's totally fool proof. Hopefully you didn't lose because of swift eshir lol. Khmun racuni malite looks good here.
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Lost the second one because eshir survived the 56k cooper hit
wary bough
Ahhh. Yeah sadly just rune gap there then
#3 is the right concept - only problem is you don't actually end up getting any leverage out of tesa here because of woosa. If you want to do 2x fire + riley, there would be better options here. be careful when building offenses like this for aoe defense breaks.
#4 there are many ways of handling this, TWL is one of them as nup said, copper bulldozer is another but when there is a 44% hp lead things get trickier, especially if you're concerned about your copper bulldozer rune quality.
wary bough
#5 - I don't like this one very much. I'm concerned about dominic dying. I think if you want to capitalize on taranys s3 with bolverk still, you would be much better off putting skogul in here than dominic. Something like bolverk lulu skogul. Skogul is definitely worth building.
wary bough
#6 - I am surprised you won, this seems very very risky to me. Was it just not tuned right or did louise derp? lol. Because the problem is here is similar to the dominic offense, where you're having your main DD tank. There are a few cases where this can be okay (skogul ends up being the main DD in the comp I suggested) but carcano doesn't stack hp, res and def like skogul does. Anyways, double snipe is the angle I take on these defenses. These are the exact kind of defenses we're looking for when building double snipe. If you had a stronger lushen this could also just be lushened, but I know where your account is so that isn't an option.
#7 - Double snipe wins this one also. If you wanted to be funny I think camilla skogul could probably 2 man this lol. But I don't think you own camilla. Rina doesn't work here since she'll feed bolverk stacks.
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#3 is the right concept - only problem is you don't actually end up getting any ...
#3 yeah i noticed that, also khali got killed from woosa after 2 proccs, riley tesa just needed to 2 vs 1 at this point tho so i won after like 20 minutes, noticed in the fight how i could definitely attacked with something better tho
#4 Makes sense
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#5 - I don't like this one very much. I'm concerned about dominic dying. I think...
#5 Yes i also think skogul would have been the better choice here, attack was pretty easy because dom was tanky enough but would be alot saver with skogul instead, played vigor for buffs instead of lulu because used lulu already at that point
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#6 - I am surprised you won, this seems very very risky to me. Was it just not t...
#6 Yea i just won that because i got really lucky and sav did go first, second skill strip bolverk, vio proc into third skill atk bar pushback, and then the tuning for the bolverk molong oneshot was fucked and i could heal back up and won
#7 i really liked this offense tbh, because ethna can just take first turn, 3rd skill bolverk so he get stunned, and then the rest of the battle was pretty simple
wary bough
#7 i really liked this offense tbh, because ethna can just take first turn, 3rd ...
What do you do if ethna doesn't land steal (100% res bolverk)?
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What do you do if ethna doesn't land steal (100% res bolverk)?
Probably lose, fair point
wary bough
This is why you have to be careful of acc check wins. Galleon Poseidon Tiana is a banned offense in higher guilds for good reason
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@wary bough what do i do with this rune, is this a sell or keep im confused
also will show my siege in a minute
just need to get the attacks because swgt is not up2date for some reason
#1 Pretty simple and easy win
#2 Idk if the team was actually good, it was pretty easy but maybe i just rune diffed
#3 Simple and easy
#4 My brain just did not work idk what i thought with this draft, my riley just gave bolverk infinite stacks and i lost
#5 swift woosa outsped me
#6 Also no idea what i thought while doing this attack, just feels weird looking at it afterwards
Siege felt bad today because my brain didnt work, but atleast i can say i 6* 2a my elucia today
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also did this attack rn, most things were used already so i thought kinki would be the best option for this offense, it worked pretty well but felt like i could lose to rng
wary bough
<@728158806588129281> what do i do with this rune, is this a sell or keep im con...
ATK% is very undesirable in comparison to other stats generally. The spd is also locked in the innate and it isn't particularly well rolled. I'd sell but you can +12 and maybe it goes to def and you have a decent triple eff rune for your account
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ATK% is very undesirable in comparison to other stats generally. The spd is also...
thats fair
that makes sense
i also need to do 3 more siege attacks on my account, will do that later probably
maiden marten
also did this attack rn, most things were used already so i thought kinki would ...
I would have gone dark tank here
Like jubelle over kinki
maiden marten
If you take siege seriously you’ll want dark tanks
Kinki lui mei are still very Common
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If you take siege seriously you’ll want dark tanks
its on my list for units i need to build
together with 100 other things
wary bough
Shaina
wary bough
Three lines for her
Can do Verde if your co op damage is much lower
Water twins are fine too
Probably would do Sabrina if it's a water twin
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Can do Verde if your co op damage is much lower
thats my verd arti rn
i guess i should stay with this
wary bough
yeah that's fine for now
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yeah that's fine for now
which day and time is siege starting for u on global exactly?
wanna know when to be here for stream, and times are different on global and eu
strange steeple
you mean monday
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AKA 3:00 PM EST Monday/Thursday
Nice thanks
wary bough
you mean monday
?therion
foggy boneBOT
idiot (mod/advisor) nice reading comprehension
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@wary bough Ping me in like 2 minutes when i put my phone away so i remember to share hits tomorrow
wary bough
@pseudo crest don't forget to share your hits :-)
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<@308332822307930112> don't forget to share your hits :-)
will share full list after i did all my attacks,
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<@308332822307930112> don't forget to share your hits :-)
#1 I feel like this offense is pretty good and safe, with better runes the battle would have been less then 40 min playtime
#2 We talked about that offense already, wanted to give it another try just with will runes this time to see how good it is, got fucked from violent proccs on twins, wont use that offense again with my rune quality
#3 My speed tuning was fucked and i got cut by liu mei and lost
#4 TWL moment
#5 Really bad offense, thought rina can tank savannah and im fine, but she hit a defense break on dom and switched targets
#6 I thought im just tanky enough to tank it because his rune quality was pretty bad, almost worked until sav vio procced 4-5 times in a row
#7 Kahli did not kill
#8 Honestly i had almost nothing left in my box to work with and siege was almost over so i just tried to attack this with what i have left
overall pretty bad siege, alot of bad decisions
strange steeple
1 - you want to know how to make this faster? replace riley with a skogul. also can consider replacing tesa with something with higher dmg output but i dont know what your box looks like
2 - don't make up stuff against MST. countering MST has been the most studied siege topic in the history of siege and there are tons of good options. if you're using something no one is is using, 100% guaranteed it sucks
3 - i dont understand what you mean speed tuning here, there is no speed tuning involved in this team. you mean that you got outsped right? very likely just take that into consideration that LM can be on swift. or rather this is just not a good team to use against this def nvm
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3 - i dont understand what you mean speed tuning here, there is no speed tuning ...
I got first turn, used s3 on copper, killed vigor, then liu mei got a turn before bulldozer, maybe i should have killed liu mei first with copper, but yes its just not a good offense, would agree
strange steeple
I got first turn, used s3 on copper, killed vigor, then liu mei got a turn befor...
no you can't kill liu mei first either because then vigor can use s2 and you can't guarantee the next kill
there's no way to stop liu mei from getting a turn before dozer
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1 - you want to know how to make this faster? replace riley with a skogul. also ...
that would probably save me alot of time yes
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2 - don't make up stuff against MST. countering MST has been the most studied si...
thats fair
strange steeple
4 - i think i would prefer lala here over lulu, but it's fine. lala because it has less chance of getting def broken by sav
5 - rina can tank sav just fine. but you need to bring monsters that are built high def so that sav can't def break the other stuff
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4 - i think i would prefer lala here over lulu, but it's fine. lala because it h...
Lala definitely sounds better here, i dont have lala thats why i used lulu
strange steeple
6 - i don't know what this is, at least use lulu over vigor if you want to do something like this and you have no amelia/aaliyah
7 - rune quality issue the team is fine
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6 - i don't know what this is, at least use lulu over vigor if you want to do so...
used lulu for TWL at this point already and have no dupes of her yet, but yea i agree i should just not take the attack with this team
strange steeple
8 - this is what you save julie for
if you're running out of stuff then you just have to be patient with waiting for easier defs to come up
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8 - this is what you save julie for
Yea would definitely julie this when i still have her
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if you're running out of stuff then you just have to be patient with waiting for...
siege was ending so that was not a option
had like 5 minutes left before we just win
so my thought was, when we are winning anyway then i can just take the attack because it does not matter when i lose here, but when he has like 0 runes i can just take a free win
would have waited when more time was left
Thanks for the insight on the attacks tho, i appriciate it
wary bough
Like jx said MST is very well studied. Guilds still use this defense to this day at high level.
I can't think of any other defense that has withstood the test of time the same way MST has
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Yea MST is really old
wary bough
What jx said about patience is definitely important. You see when I am playing siege that I don't hit every defense I see. It's totally fine to look through a map, find nothing and come back and hour or two later
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Yes, i dont think patience was a problem in this siege but definitely in the last few sieges, another problem i have is to not think enough about artifacts
im sure some of these loses could be prevented by switching artifacts around
especially now with the -25% dmg taken from fire artifact that could win some fights
wary bough
You can swap artifacts, but definitely don't swap runes. Even with artifacts I would try to limit it for mana's sake
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thats fair
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@wary bough Btw would u say i should try to get tiana from the stone rotation event or should i just go for the nora camilla rotation? really unsure about that (wont get anything anyway because holy fuck this event is useless but still)
wary bough
I do not value offense over defense
I would wait for BP
But most likely it seems to me like nora cami is go to
wary bough
That's what a lot of people seem to be saying
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@wary bough
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Last siege was pretty easy but would still like to hear some ideas to improve on some of these offenses
- I feel like that offense is just really safe and its almost impossible to lose
- One of many "defenses" this siege, my idea behind the offense was that seara is the only real threat and when i just bring nana perna i cant really lose
- Also feel like this was pretty safe, Rina instead of Tetra would be better here but still need to build my rina
- Idk what that defense was, Garo Draco Kahli works good here i feel like
- Standard, i think fire druid had no runes which also helped
- Okay yea... nemesis will megan, i was just really braindead and brought another water unit so leo attacked theomars and i lost, would have won with literally any non water unit here
- I dont feel like racuni was good here, idk what else to bring tho, was really close because verad took 4 turns because of procs but after i survived that it was easily won
- Tesarion for Oblivion on Odin, Triana because of Odin, and giana because of strip
- First time i saw that defense and generally the cookie as unit, i feel like the offense was good and really safe but had alot of piloting errors because the cookie was new to me
- not a great offense for that, would not waste this offense to a defense like that but it was the last attack and i know it wins
remote summit
what site do you use for this summary?
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swgt
cold shale
4 feels iffy there is a Nana pull back and they can strip your immunity away into Nana killing your entire team
You should take Immunity for 6 too
This Verad Leo Ritesh is just free Woosa or Fran +2
They do exactly nothing against Immunity
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4 feels iffy there is a Nana pull back and they can strip your immunity away int...
I have a better speed lead so i feel like i should definitely outspeed because draco had my fastest set, then i can one shot fire art master with kahli and kill him after revive with garo, then they dont have a strip anymore and its a auto win no?
maybe im missing something
pseudo crest
They do exactly nothing against Immunity
thats true, thats why i attacked it again with riley, probably fran over racuni would have been good for extra safety, or even just fran +2
cold shale
I have a better speed lead so i feel like i should definitely outspeed because d...
What if you dont kill with Garo?
And its a tanky Jeogun
cold shale
thats true, thats why i attacked it again with riley, probably fran over racuni ...
rileys immunity uptime is terrible
Its 2 1turn only skills
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What if you dont kill with Garo?
nana revives with 20% health, im pretty confident in my garo being able to kill a 20% health Jeogun even when its a tanky one
but i can see that it could be hard to kill Jeogun when draco does not buff atk on kahli and then kahli does not kill alone
so yea probably not a great offense and there are definitely more safe options