#Just do it team not doing it ...

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lyric thistle
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Hey guys so I built my gb12 team and I feel like even tho only Fran is slightly below 100k eHP the rest is as per the bot indication.

This team fails probably 60/70% of the gb12 run at the moment, while I have the right rune set as per the ?justdoit guide, what am I missing? I read somewhere that Kro2a should be at a much higher crit rate? Do you need any other info for you to help me properly?

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cerulean lintel
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so few things, this is not the justdoit team

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yr vero's runes are different then the ones that should be on him

lyric thistle
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Vero has the set given to beginner in violent/will

Its def%/atk+/speed/def+/hp% and HP+

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Maybe that is why he does not do much damage ...

cerulean lintel
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i want you to compare your runes to that in this imgure link (first set is lapis so ignore)

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the only set not in here is fran's from the mellia fusion

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cerulean lintel
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the only change to this is shannon's slot 4, which you replace with a slot 4 hp%

trim hinge
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you can't slap random runes on and expect the team to work

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all the runes required are obtained by following the guide

lyric thistle
trim hinge
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do not use kro in your first gb12 team

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you are not following the guide

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if you did i would see the runes that you are supposed to put from the command there

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?justdoit

indigo marshBOT
lyric thistle
cerulean lintel
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it is not

lyric thistle
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So I see some adjustments from my side needs to be made

trim hinge
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no none need to be made

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this team is a 100% team if you follow this guide

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you need to follow the guide

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we have tested this with fran on white runes and it's 100%

cerulean lintel
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the only changes here can be to fran and shannon's slot 4

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lyric thistle
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Ok

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I am a bit confused maybe its because I got two sets of violent runes that are 6 stars

cerulean lintel
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(vero's stats should be similar except for att/hp/def cuz he's 6* in that picture)

trim hinge
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the second violent set is from the mellia fusion. that goes on fran

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do you have artifacts on all of the monsters?

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from what i'm seeing sigmarus does not have any artifacts

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refer to step 4 and 5 of the picture

lyric thistle
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sig has water hp and attack hp

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I will just remove all the runes and do them one by one as the sets are mixed up in my inventories now so I will check what Drunken sent

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lyric thistle
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these are his artifacts

trim hinge
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okay, so that looks good

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do you have shannon set up?

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set her up & use her over kro

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the stats on fran look fine, veromos is not on the correct set

lyric thistle
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Okkk thanks @cerulean lintel for what you sent, I realised I mixed up the sets ....

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Thanks I will look into this now

trim hinge
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the set you see in the picture has 33% accuracy

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yours has 81%

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overall though

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the stats all look fine

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just use shannon > kro

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i'm confused by how you would not have a 100% winrate with this team

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i have personally tested it and it does work

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have you skilled up fran/shannon at all? you should be skilling them as you get the skill ups

cerulean lintel
indigo marshBOT
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Ace_Makoyi

[Message Link](#1080914399268708362 message) to #1080914399268708362
the only changes here can be to fran and shannon's slot 4

Req. by Ace_Makoyi. Quote from ·
lyric thistle
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I will try

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vero and shannon are 5*

cerulean lintel
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correct

lyric thistle
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I used the runes you have on fran as well and I get the same stats (altho a bit higher but I guess its only better)

lyric thistle
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Best is to 6* vero next right?

modest wrenBOT
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110591 ehp. Deffbroken: 52055 ehp.

cerulean lintel
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there is no harm in 6*ing vero, yes

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after justdoit is up and working its, time to move onto the next thing in this list

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?progressionexplained

indigo marshBOT
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Scenarios: clear all of scenario on normal difficulty asap with friend/mentor reps, see ?farmer
Justdoit: work on getting/leveling/evolving these monsters in ?justdoit while clearing scenario to make your first GB12 team (Giants Keep floor 12)

  • first and main rune farming dungeon during pve
    ToaN100: clear this with your gb12 team and a few other monsters mentioned in ?toa
    GB12: once u have things rolling can look at ?gb12 to start speeding up the team
  • about time to look at making ?2ateam to 2nd awaken kro
    S+ Rank Water Rift: ?rift-water ability to farm and craft determination runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)
    ToaH100: first time you really need to invest into toa, see ?toa
    Tricaru: ?tricaru this gives you the ability to farm NB12, DB12, and PC10, though DB12 does not need to be done at this time
    S+ Rank Fire Rift: ?rift-fire ability to farm and craft fight runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)
    BJ5: ?bj5 the speed r5 team, you can farm NB12 for will runes, farm/craft fight runes from Fire Rift and have options of your bale being on fatal or Rage
  • ?sf10 and pc10 can be done to help yr bale hit his minimum damage threshold
    Lumel b5: this will be one of two d-hole rune farming dungeons that you will farm
  • the second rune farming dungeon is up to you, see bottom of ?dhole
  • this also plays a part into which dimensional predator runes you will be picking from
    S+ Rank Rift Beasts: finish up getting S+ ranks in the other rift beasts, see ?rift-(x) , x being the element
    DB12: now is the time you can start thinking about farming dragons with ?tricaru and shifting focus from pve to pvp content. See `?siege-advice
lyric thistle
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?2ateam

indigo marshBOT
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# Dimension Hole (Non-Ellunia) 2A B5 Team

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[Verdehile][1] Leader - Swift/Any or Violent/any, SPD/CR/[HP/ATK]
[Loren][2] - Swift/Any, SPD/HP/HP
[Fran][3] - Swift/Any, SPD/HP/HP

[Turn order][→] Loren/Fran → Verdehile
[Targetting] Left → Right → Boss

[1]: Verdehile needs 100% CR, 180 SPD, 85k eHP. Should move after Loren/Fran. Violent is a luxury. Try getting higher Attack so he deals damage. More att/cd means safer and faster runs
[2]: Loren needs 34% Acc, ~200 SPD, 130k eHP. Doesn't need damage.
[3]: Fran needs ~200 SPD, 130k eHP. Acc could help with consistency but not necessary.

* Fran and Loren work on their ?justdoit builds to start off

* Fran needs full skill ups. Loren can get away without skill ups. Verdehile doesn't need skill ups.

* These stats assume no towers. 

* All units should be 6ed to benefit from the extra tankiness. White (?artifacts) can help with tankiness, or if your Fran has very low ATK. Most of these mons have low base DEF so DEF is a good main stat here.

* Building the 2a target (runing/evolving to 5/6 star) can help with speed and/or consistency. (Weak) Fight or other team sets may also help if you have spares and aren't planning on using the monster immediately.

* Clears 3:30-4:00 with L → R → Boss. Can go faster with L → Boss and/or a damage Verde.
lyric thistle
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?rift-water

indigo marshBOT
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WATER BEAST

Boss Mechanic: reduces your HP, this effect is undone by boosting ATB/Gaining turns

Frontline/Backline
The damage isn't reduced by the amount of frontliners that you have, so run 2 FL, 4 BL.

Team Suggestion without water twins
Front Line: Fran/Mav
Back Line: Kro(2A) + lingling + Verd(1) + 1 damage dealer

Team Suggestion with water twins
Front Line: Fran & Mav
Back Line: Sabrina + Talia + Kro(2A) + Hraes/Lingling

Leaderskills
Lushen (Attack%) and Talia (Crit Rate)

Damage Dealers
__Ideal:__Sabrina & Talia, Ling ling, Hraesvelg

Usable Elsewhere: Melissa & Sabrina,
Theomars, Iunu, Lushen, Fuco, Susano

Niche: Yen, Orochi

Not Ideal: Arang

Alternatives to Water twins,
Replace with Ling ling, Verde and 1 other Damage dealer above.
-- (1) Verde is only used if one doesnt have hraes or water twins on the team
Melissa can be paired with Sabrina but will do less damage than Sabrina + Talia

Use ?riftstats in #bot-commands, if you want help knowing how to build these units.

Confused by a listed name? use /monster name:Monster to find the normal name.

Team can vary based on your monster box. If you have questions about monsters you could use, share your monster box in #1047269577614164098 or create a !helpme

Note
All of these listed monsters, have uses in other parts of the game which is why they're being recommended.

lyric thistle
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?riftstats

indigo marshBOT
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Rift Beast Stats

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Frontline: Fran and Mav will Frontline for all rifts

Fran - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.2k def, +15k hp, 200 spd, low CR, 2 def artifacts
Mav - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.2k def, +15k hp, 180 spd, 45% acc, low CR, 2 def artifacts
*The HP/DEF are minimums, extra is always better
*Fran does not need much attack hence no listed requirement
*Fran and Mav both work on vio builds, Fran getting the best, Mav second best
*The accuracy and CR req are for ?toa , as accuracy in rift beast is not important

Lapis - SPD/CD/ATT, 180 SPD after Speed Tower, 85% CR, balance of ATT/CD, attack artifacts
*Can reuse some of the free +15 vamp runes from ?farmer as a base, slot 2 should be switched to speed
*Focusing more on ATT/CD from runes can allow you to use HP artifacts so she's not too squishy still for faimon farming

Hraesvelg - [SPD-ATT]/CD/[ATT-DEF-HP], 90k eHP, fastest DD, 70+ CR, balance of ATK/CD)

Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 140 SPD, 70-81% CR, balance of ATK/CD and stats needed for ?gb12 , NOT on violent

Sigmarus - see ?toa notes

Twins - see Damage Dealer below

  • if using talia lead, CR can drop to 76%

**Damage Dealers **- ATT/CD/ATT 140+ spd, 85% CR,

  • minimum of +200% attack and 170 CD, Artifacts (ATT/ATT)

Colleen - ?bj5 colleen will work for wind beast

lyric thistle
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?toa

indigo marshBOT
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# Trial of Ascension (Normal & Hard) GUIDE
*Additional commands
Floor 100 bosses (?toafemale and ?toamale )
?arta

First ToaN (normal) team will consists of your GB12 team according to ?justdoit which is Vero, Fran, Shannon, Sig and either Lapis or Loren

ToaH (hard) will be a combination of Fran, Mav (wind penguin), Shannon, +2 of these units below depending on floor
-Sig, Vero, Melia, Loren, Verde, Spectra
[Mav] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, Def Artifacts (when 6☆), and 180 SPD, 45% Acc
[Mellia] - Violent-Swift/Any, (SPD-HP)/HP/HP, can stay 5☆
[Spectra][1] - Swift/Any, SPD/HP/HP, 220 spd and 45% accuracy
[Sig][2] - Swift/Any, SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], moving before Mav, 20-30 acc, 85% CR, HP/ATT artifacts depending on runes and still meeting GB12 requirements
[Vero, Loren, Fran, Shannon, and Verde] runed as they are for their other content

[1]: Spectra can have multiple builds with the two most popular being, as a pure support listed above or as bruiser runed SPD/CR/HP with 100% CR, 220 spd, 45% acc and 6☆
[2]: Sig wants these stats eventually to start speeding up later ToaH floors

Additional Info

  • If you are not sure of what a monster does, dont be afraid to read the monsters skills or ask for clarification on what they do
  • Sig, Veromos and Mellia do not need skillups, everyone else should be skilled up.
  • Support mon ideally have no more than 20% CR for anti-crit stages
  • 45% Accuracy is recommended for every support unit that have debuffs.
  • Turn order will vary but in a nutshell the slowest mon on the team should be mav (being 180 spd) and everyone else moving before he does. Sig's spd will be slow at first but then later will want to be making faster than mav as well
lyric thistle
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?progressionexplained

indigo marshBOT
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Scenarios: clear all of scenario on normal difficulty asap with friend/mentor reps, see ?farmer
Justdoit: work on getting/leveling/evolving these monsters in ?justdoit while clearing scenario to make your first GB12 team (Giants Keep floor 12)

  • first and main rune farming dungeon during pve
    ToaN100: clear this with your gb12 team and a few other monsters mentioned in ?toa
    GB12: once u have things rolling can look at ?gb12 to start speeding up the team
  • about time to look at making ?2ateam to 2nd awaken kro
    S+ Rank Water Rift: ?rift-water ability to farm and craft determination runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)
    ToaH100: first time you really need to invest into toa, see ?toa
    Tricaru: ?tricaru this gives you the ability to farm NB12, DB12, and PC10, though DB12 does not need to be done at this time
    S+ Rank Fire Rift: ?rift-fire ability to farm and craft fight runes and get material for reappraisal stones (reapps)
    BJ5: ?bj5 the speed r5 team, you can farm NB12 for will runes, farm/craft fight runes from Fire Rift and have options of your bale being on fatal or Rage
  • ?sf10 and pc10 can be done to help yr bale hit his minimum damage threshold
    Lumel b5: this will be one of two d-hole rune farming dungeons that you will farm
  • the second rune farming dungeon is up to you, see bottom of ?dhole
  • this also plays a part into which dimensional predator runes you will be picking from
    S+ Rank Rift Beasts: finish up getting S+ ranks in the other rift beasts, see ?rift-(x) , x being the element
    DB12: now is the time you can start thinking about farming dragons with ?tricaru and shifting focus from pve to pvp content. See `?siege-advice
lyric thistle
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?gb12

indigo marshBOT
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Order the GB12 team is upgraded and avg times

  1. Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Shannon 3:00
  2. Sigmarus Veromos Fran Loren Kro(2A) 1:20-1:50
  3. Sigmarus Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2A) 1:00-1:20
  4. Lushen Veromos Hraes Loren Kro(2) 0:24-1:00

=New players see ?justdoit =
=Returning players See below stats=

Sigmarus - SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 85% CR, 80k ehp, 140+ spd, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs
Fran - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 180+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Loren - SPD/HP/HP, 130k ehp, 200+ spd, 2 def artifacts
Shannon - SPD/HP/[HP/DEF], 180+ spd, 60k ehp
Veromos - SPD/HP/HP, 180+ spd, 100k ehp
Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 85% CR, 140 spd and moving after Sig, 80K ehp, [att/hp/def] artifacts depending on needs

  1. acc makes runs more consistent, aim for 54% on all supports (loren,fran,Veromos ,shannon)
  2. Turn order loren > Fran/Veromos/shannon > sig > kro(2A)
  3. Vero and shannon can stay 5★ for now

STEPS TO IMPROVING GB12 (TEAM #2 AND BELOW) - spds are in combat spd

  1. Must reach near average time of current team before moving to the next one
  2. Vero can be moved to a bruiser build
  • SPD/CD/[HP/ATT], 80k ehp but tankier is safer, 85% CR, 180+ spd, [hp/def/att] artifacts depending on need
  • 6★ Vero and devilmon
  1. Improving Sig to his ?toa build along with reaching the same stats as above
  2. Getting kro to or close to 169 (with max spd totem, only needs 45 spd from runes to hit 169 combat spd)
  3. Hraesvelg replaces fran
  • Stats should be - SPD/CD/HP, 130k ehp, 169 spd and moving before sig and kro, 70+ CR, rest into att/CD
  1. Turn order for team #3: Loren > vero > hraes > sig > kro(2a)

WHEN TO ADD LUSHEN TO MY GB12 TEAM

  1. when you get toward the end of progression, hit 10.3k per card with skill 3 and get him to at least 170 combat speed
lyric thistle
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?rift-water

indigo marshBOT
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WATER BEAST

Boss Mechanic: reduces your HP, this effect is undone by boosting ATB/Gaining turns

Frontline/Backline
The damage isn't reduced by the amount of frontliners that you have, so run 2 FL, 4 BL.

Team Suggestion without water twins
Front Line: Fran/Mav
Back Line: Kro(2A) + lingling + Verd(1) + 1 damage dealer

Team Suggestion with water twins
Front Line: Fran & Mav
Back Line: Sabrina + Talia + Kro(2A) + Hraes/Lingling

Leaderskills
Lushen (Attack%) and Talia (Crit Rate)

Damage Dealers
__Ideal:__Sabrina & Talia, Ling ling, Hraesvelg

Usable Elsewhere: Melissa & Sabrina,
Theomars, Iunu, Lushen, Fuco, Susano

Niche: Yen, Orochi

Not Ideal: Arang

Alternatives to Water twins,
Replace with Ling ling, Verde and 1 other Damage dealer above.
-- (1) Verde is only used if one doesnt have hraes or water twins on the team
Melissa can be paired with Sabrina but will do less damage than Sabrina + Talia

Use ?riftstats in #bot-commands, if you want help knowing how to build these units.

Confused by a listed name? use /monster name:Monster to find the normal name.

Team can vary based on your monster box. If you have questions about monsters you could use, share your monster box in #1047269577614164098 or create a !helpme

Note
All of these listed monsters, have uses in other parts of the game which is why they're being recommended.

azure fractal
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?rift-light

indigo marshBOT
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LIGHT BEAST

Boss Mechanic: Has a shield that takes less damage from multi-hits and deals more damage while its active, strong single target attacks will deal more damage.
Typically considered the hardest rift beast

Frontline/Backline
The damage isn't reduced by the amount of frontliners that you have, so run 2 FL, 4 BL.

Team Suggestion without water twins
Front Line: Fran/Mav
Back Line: Kro(2A) + Raoq(2A) + 2 damage dealers

Team Suggestion with water twins
Front Line: Fran & Mav
Back Line: Sabrina + Talia + Kro(2A) + Raoq(2A)

Leaderskills
Talia (Crit Rate), Theo (Crit Rate), Perna (ATT%)

Damage Dealers
Sabrina & Talia
Hraesvelg
Theomars
Raoq(2A)
Shaina & Sabrina
Perna

Alternatives to Water twins
Looking to add 2 strong single target attackers, which at this point, the roles shouldnt be hard to fill

Use ?riftstats in #bot-commands, if you want help knowing how to build these units.
Confused by a listed name? use /monster name:Monster to find the normal name.

Team can vary based on your monster box. If you have questions about monsters you could use, share your monster box in #help-and-advice-old or create a !helpme
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Note
All of these listed monsters, have uses in other parts of the game which is why they're being recommended.

azure fractal
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?riftstats

indigo marshBOT
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Rift Beast Stats

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Frontline: Fran and Mav will Frontline for all rifts

Fran - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.2k def, +15k hp, 200 spd, low CR, 2 def artifacts
Mav - SPD/DEF/HP, 1.2k def, +15k hp, 180 spd, 45% acc, low CR, 2 def artifacts
*The HP/DEF are minimums, extra is always better
*Fran does not need much attack hence no listed requirement
*Fran and Mav both work on vio builds, Fran getting the best, Mav second best
*The accuracy and CR req are for ?toa , as accuracy in rift beast is not important

Lapis - SPD/CD/ATT, 180 SPD after Speed Tower, 85% CR, balance of ATT/CD, attack artifacts
*Can reuse some of the free +15 vamp runes from ?farmer as a base, slot 2 should be switched to speed
*Focusing more on ATT/CD from runes can allow you to use HP artifacts so she's not too squishy still for faimon farming

Hraesvelg - [SPD-ATT]/CD/[ATT-DEF-HP], 90k eHP, fastest DD, 70+ CR, balance of ATK/CD)

Kro(2A) - ATT/CD/ATT, 140 SPD, 70-81% CR, balance of ATK/CD and stats needed for ?gb12 , NOT on violent

Sigmarus - see ?toa notes

Twins - see Damage Dealer below

  • if using talia lead, CR can drop to 76%

**Damage Dealers **- ATT/CD/ATT 140+ spd, 85% CR,

  • minimum of +200% attack and 170 CD, Artifacts (ATT/ATT)

Colleen - ?bj5 colleen will work for wind beast

cerulean lintel
# azure fractal ?riftstats

just to point one thing about about crafting deter runes, is that you will only need to farm water rift, and then converting excess rift crystals for the ones you needs (this allows you to skip having to touch light rift)

lyric thistle
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?tricaru