#Tricaru db12 team

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gleaming quartz
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The strange part is that looking at the chart I match the defense requirement. I have a level 16 gaurdstone and have the 5% buff from guild.

urban locust
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have you compared it to the spd tuning chart though?

last wharf
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whats your speed tower at?

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actually hm it shouldnt matter that much

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how is your run failing?

urban locust
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it wouldnt if his spd tower is maxed

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but i have a feeling it isnt

last wharf
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i mean even with lower speed tower i think 28% +56 outspeeds all the waves -- it might not be optimal in terms of # of turns but it's usually good enough, it would be a good improvement though

gleaming quartz
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My verdehile dies

gleaming quartz
last wharf
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also, the point of the xmogged icarus is that the xmogged ones hit first -- you put ur highest accuracy / lowest damage ones on the xmog and ur highest damage one(s) on base xmog

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having all 3 xmogged sort of ruins the point

gleaming quartz
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Oh

urban locust
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2nd if your spd tower is not maxed, u have to follow the combat spd listed in black

gleaming quartz
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I can't read that

urban locust
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?

gleaming quartz
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Ideal and setups?

last wharf
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any of the setups try to maximize the amount of turns you get

gleaming quartz
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It goes from 1 - 7? What does that even mean.

last wharf
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ideal is slightly better

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you have 8 determination sets to confirm yes

gleaming quartz
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Yes

last wharf
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you're going pretty over on defense, but if you have 8 sets & lvl 15 def, the defense side seems fine -- if you could record and upload a run that would be great

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a good step would be matching the combat speeds in black though

gleaming quartz
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There are 7 different parts of the chart that are speed in black.

last wharf
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assuming your speed tower is +0, add +17 to all the green speed values u see

gleaming quartz
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Which setup and I following.

last wharf
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any of them

gleaming quartz
last wharf
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what % is that?

gleaming quartz
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5%

last wharf
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okay, so then the formula you need is

urban locust
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so your dogs are at 164, 162 and 200 cmb spd

last wharf
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(black number) = 108 * (1.28 + 0.05) + rune speed [round up]

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so, to solve, you need
black number - 108*(1.33)[round up] = rune speed

urban locust
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black number - 108*(1.33)[round up] + rune speed

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gottcha

gleaming quartz
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Yea I'm not getting it

urban locust
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what are you not getting

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you need to follow 1 of those 7

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columns

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when all else fails, just follow the first one

gleaming quartz
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I see 7 different rune speeds all with different +rune speeds on them. I'm told to match the black speed values there are 28 different black speed values which one am I looking at.

urban locust
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no

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there are 7 collumns

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u follow 1 of the 7

last wharf
urban locust
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to give combat spd

last wharf
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uhh no

gleaming quartz
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7 columns but I must just choose one randomly and do math I haven't even used before in sw.

last wharf
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(black number) = 108 * (1.28 + 0.05)[round up] + rune speed
so, to solve, you need
black number - 108*(1.33)[round up] = rune speed

urban locust
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oh

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miss read it, since u did it working backward at the end there

last wharf
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ye

last wharf
gleaming quartz
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144

last wharf
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either way, record a run if you can

gleaming quartz
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205 - 144

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61

last wharf
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👍

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so u need +61

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for that first/second column's first icaru

urban locust
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all you need is for the icaru to be at or over that spd

gleaming quartz
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Lol I'm so fucked

urban locust
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?

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+61 spd is about 10 spd per rune

gleaming quartz
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I'm gonna have to rerune some of them to fit the speed requirement.

last wharf
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yes

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that would be ideal

urban locust
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or grind the spd

gleaming quartz
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Determination runes are a pain in the ass to grind.

last wharf
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you dont need full sets

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my first tricaru was like 5 determ rest broken

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ur going WAY over on defense

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ur like +300 more than u need

urban locust
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which means

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u need less def% on yr slot 3 and 5

gleaming quartz
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Yes I need less defense lol

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last wharf
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what i meant

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is that u can drop a lot of determination sets

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to get your speed and damage up

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(and accuracy on ur not 71% acc one)

gleaming quartz
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...

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This game fucking sucks ughhh

last wharf
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...?

gleaming quartz
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It'll take forever for me to collect the runes I'm gonna need.

last wharf
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u dont need that much speed on your icarus at all lol

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only one of ur icarus needs to be 205 combat

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also, can you record a failed run and upload to streamable or something

gleaming quartz
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I'll figure out how gimme sec

last wharf
gleaming quartz
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Gems?

last wharf
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if u roll over that flat hp w/ a spd gem that's at least +5

gleaming quartz
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Oh yea tons

last wharf
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then ur fine

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lol

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same with grinding speed elsewhere

gleaming quartz
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It was pretty much half a year of grinding dungeons so I have tons and tons of them.

last wharf
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dungeons don't give gems 🤔

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but the team sets u get a ton from farming rifts beasts so

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either way, see if u have a determination speed gem

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and gem on seped on that

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or grind some speed onto the runes that have speed subs

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same w/ other icarus

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and then boom your fastest icaru is speedtuned

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lol

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repeat for icaru 2 and 3

gleaming quartz
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All of my available runes with speed already have +3 or +4 speed.

last wharf
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then gem in some speed if u can

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(and that also gives you more to gem)

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for ex, u can gem over that flat hp on that slot 4 as mentioned

gleaming quartz
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Oh gems are hm..

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I have tons of grindstones not gems.

last wharf
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yes gems are rarer, but if you have some use it

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and the recording would still be great

gleaming quartz
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@last wharf ignore the audio recording apps are weird.

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The chance when it was about 1 health from dying it usually dies this time it got lucky. The 3rd round is where the rest of the tricaru die off.

last wharf
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okay yea ur second icaru needs to be faster

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because sometimes the 1st icaru comes into the 2nd stage w/out teamup

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so u need it to be over 169 combat speed (black number)

gleaming quartz
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So would I just need to change just 1 tricaru?

last wharf
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that's the biggest issue, yes

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if you could speed tune everything that would be optimal

gleaming quartz
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Here ya go

last wharf
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okay, try it again

gleaming quartz
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Amblush that fixed it

last wharf
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