#quebeh + Odin ?

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velvet wadi
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I dont have bastet yet. Would it make sense to run quebeh with odin? Odin having shield and will set means that he will be at 5stacks. I also could use woosa or sth but having that critrate buff and invis could be also nive i assume

cerulean canopy
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use draco or riley for siege

velvet wadi
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Ok is 220spd riley enough tho

cerulean canopy
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are you finished with progression?

velvet wadi
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Yes

cerulean canopy
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then this might be useful info

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?ticks

eager belfryBOT
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Speed - Ticks to reach 100% ATB

Combat speed 477 = 3 Ticks
Combat speed 358 = 4 Ticks
Combat speed 286 = 5 Ticks
Combat speed 239 = 6 Ticks
Combat speed 205 = 7 Ticks
Combat speed 179 = 8 Ticks

cerulean canopy
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if you don't use a booster of some sort it can be good to optimize for one of these speeds (after tower)

velvet wadi
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What is this

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So they are 1 spd apart?

cerulean canopy
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these show the breakpoints of what speeds will give you a certain amount of turns

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no the combat speed part

velvet wadi
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477 spd how

cerulean canopy
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for example a 210 combat speed unit gets the same turns as a 220 combat speed unit, because they're both above the 205 level but below 239

velvet wadi
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Wdym with same turns?

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Or amount of turns

cerulean canopy
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yes

velvet wadi
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I dont get it

cerulean canopy
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amount of turns

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unless attack bar is manipulated

velvet wadi
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Riley buffs, odin nukes

cerulean canopy
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yea, so riley goes before odin

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you can add tesarion to make it a decent siege defence

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tesa riley odin

velvet wadi
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But my odin is squishy

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Cant they just lushen it or sth

cerulean canopy
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he revives

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and gets healed

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also tesarion may solo them then

velvet wadi
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Oh true

cerulean canopy
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people can still lushen but it's not a free win with just any lushen team

velvet wadi
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I still dont get the ticks and turn amount part but ill watch a vid

cerulean canopy
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the point there is, you can have +10 more speed on a unit than another unit but still get the same exact amount of turns

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so unless you need to take first turn, you can just sit right above 205 or 239 for example

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it helps with determining how fast you want your units to be

velvet wadi
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Ok

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So making them 204 isnt efficient

cerulean canopy
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but if someone has a higher tick like being at least 286, they get more turns than someone above 239

velvet wadi
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But 205-210 better

cerulean canopy
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but if you want to take first turn for example on a booster like bastet, you can ignore that and just get more speed than needed, because you want to move first

velvet wadi
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But tesa doesnt care that much right?

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Or does he need to be the same spd also

cerulean canopy
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ideally they're all three close to each other

velvet wadi
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Ok

cerulean canopy
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so they can move together and maybe kill someone

velvet wadi
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So do people build odins tanky too?

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Or glass cannon

cerulean canopy
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you can go a bit tanky or glass cannon, multiple builds exist

velvet wadi
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Ok

cerulean canopy
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to counter different offenses

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but I'd just keep it simple and focus on the basics, like having enough speed, critrate, and damage

velvet wadi
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I might aim for 180 then

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Ok

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So riley 210 and odin 185 spd would be bad right

cerulean canopy
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it's not ideal I guess

velvet wadi
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Ok

cerulean canopy
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but 179 is a pretty slow tick for siege

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205 would be nice if you can

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but see what's possible

velvet wadi
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And then 100critrate and good dmg as well

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Ill try it 🙂

cerulean canopy
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odin needs 85% critrate

velvet wadi
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Oh true

cerulean canopy
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since he gets 15% from elemental advantage

velvet wadi
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Yeah

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He also should have skillups i guess

cerulean canopy
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if you use his lead it's even less but tesarion lead would be nice too

velvet wadi
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Okay

cerulean canopy
velvet wadi
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Im worried that he will die so fast twice xD

cerulean canopy
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it's not 100% a must have but he's a good investment

velvet wadi
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Since he will be probably squishy

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Like some vio procs and he is dead instantly

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Twice

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It is what it is i guess

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Not take him against strippers i guess

cerulean canopy
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sure he is killable

velvet wadi
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Well riley cleanse anyway huh

cerulean canopy
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but to kill him twice instantly they probably have a squishy team

velvet wadi
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Ok

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How hard should he hit

cerulean canopy
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tesarion riley can carry

velvet wadi
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Ok

cerulean canopy
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as hard as your runes allow

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but some eHP is nice

velvet wadi
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Tesa build buriserish right?

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Spd critdmg hp or sth?

cerulean canopy
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yea bruiserish with some accuracy

cerulean canopy
velvet wadi
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Ok

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Kinda high requirement

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But thanks for the help

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Btw another question. Ive build a fat lushen and 305spd cabila. But with psamath lead he only hits for 10k per card

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Which is conpletely ass xD

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I should stick with zaiross galleon poseidon tiana i guess for arena offence

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I had double lushen before, but nowadays thats hard to do i guess

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So hard to oneshot in c1 with 1 fat lushen :/

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Probably tanky artifacs and annoying herors makes is not viable

cerulean canopy
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uh yea just using tiana for ao is fine

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you're not pushing for high ranks yet anyway