rifts use different ticks
#Rift Attack bar ticks
shy slate
modern rune
could u refer me to a reddit post or smth where its in detail? everything i find is years ago , or just speculation^^
shy slate
it's not an exact science, i don't think anyone has completely figured out exactly how turns and atb works in rifts
modern rune
ah okay that makes sense then
shy slate
as opposed to every where else
initially we recommended 0 spd for rifts
but we realized that having a little speed did give you an extra turn before the boss moves
however having a lot of speed (like 200) did not
modern rune
I see, and that was observed around 140 combatspeed?
shy slate
yes
modern rune
kk thx
obtuse egret
modern rune
In order to not lose any ticks in rift, in theory, ud need 239 Speed on all ur units right? If u have less, the boss will get slightly more atk bar cause some of ur monsters dont recover 100% attack bar in 6 ticks.
saw this referenced in the channel that u linked, but just want to make sure i understand
modern rune
@slim wren i can stream the runs or smth for u if u want^^
bc of the doubt reaction 
why was my post removed?
slim wren
why was my post removed?
I did not remove it, could you test this with swarfarm & upload your data from ~200+ runs? if it mirrors this then i'd be interested in checking it out :)
modern rune
Cud u link me a guide on what u need me to upload^^ are pictures enough, or u need me to record
modern rune
Swarfarm logs are via the sw exporter?
slim wren
If you set up summoners war exporter and swarfarm it should be pretty straightforward, you just put the key in and it will record the runs
yep, that's right
slim wren
we're always looking for new ideas that are consistent and applicable
modern rune
Yeah sound, this is a rlly nice low rune req teamcomp in comparison to whats recommended 🙂
slim wren
if you can show this then i'd be very pleased to have it presented in #pve-team-showcase-archived personally. i did not delete it and i'm sorry it got deleted, but i will say that if you can provide this with runs showing consistency then that could be groundbrreaking
absolutely, i have a bit of a different perspective from some of the other advisors on this stuff, i'd really love to see a low rune requirement version of icebeast, so let's get it set up!
modern rune
Will do, ill @ u with the data later, cheers
slim wren
ty!
modern rune
ty!
trying to enter swarfarm code, but keep getting this error and cant find anything on it. any idea?
Nvm fixed^^
modern rune
so im running data, and id like to fix an issue.
currently over 100 runs, im sitting at 91% successrate, the losses mostly looked like this lol:
https://imgur.com/a/sZ9gJb5
the boss only surrvives this long because for some reason, on the second swipe, my team derps and gets frozen.
Im thinking its probably cause bernard boosts too late, so the attack speed buff doesnt get used, so theres a tick of the frost left over
modern rune
but even if i manually go and simulate myself: This is the latest bernard could boost before dying ( he always dies on this point.) Its enough to not get frozen on the 2nd swipe.
So what could the issue be that causes this incosistency? I made sure to check, and on all the losses, talia and sabrina get stunned, with like a pixel of frost left.
slim wren
seems like a @elfin jacinth kinda question
modern rune
Imo slightly better speed on the units will fix the issue, but if theres an easier fix id do that^^
elfin jacinth
seems like a <@118093650558189572> kinda question
ah right
elfin jacinth
So what exactly is the issue?
modern rune
Out of 100 runs, 9% of the time for some reason my talia and sabrina have a bit of frost left, causing to get stunned by last swipe and fail the run
modern rune
the boss only surrvives this long because for some reason, on the second swipe, ...
I tested a bit here, and since that didnt give me an answer, im wondering if the frost that u lose per turn is random or something?
The amount of frost left is litterally like 1 pixel worth
elfin jacinth
AI is AI, can you confirm that both Purian, Bernard and Mav use their #3 off cooldown
modern rune
Its only purian and bernard, and i confirmed they both used it
Purian has perfect ai aswell, but i made sure to look at bernard
elfin jacinth
then start counting turns
modern rune
Besides, if bernard didnt use s3 thered be alot more frost left
elfin jacinth
and see waht is different between them
the only thing that i can think off
is that you have a different turn order
Bernard/Mav gives spd buffs
Talia desyncs through #2 as she "gains another turn, effectively losing a spd buff turn"
then there's also groggy stage
where Hitting/Not hitting, gives the boss a different ATB
meaning, incases where mav doesn't #2 off cooldown.
Your monster turns are different when you get to the actual boss fight