#HOI4 (Hearts of Iron 4)

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snow trout
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Family be family

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I dont have school this week since im between semesters so im down to play a game during the week to

devout bobcat
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irl comes first

karmic prairie
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I can only do games during the week early in the day, if hoi4 or something I'd have to start at around 10am or so

snow trout
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Me and a few guys use to play in the mornings since they were euro time

tulip flower
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millennium dawn has been updated

slender ocean
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I do wish the AI was better in MD (I mean, and vanilla too) because I don't remember if I already brought this up but I cheesed the hell out of the USA while playing as Iran in MD using cruise missiles

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Murdered the entire US Airforce in Kuwait using runway targetted cruise missiles. They kept putting planes there and I kept hitting the airfield with cruise missiles because obviously my own airforce can't compete lmao

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And they had no missile defense there

snow trout
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Yea the AI is only designed for Vanilla units and even then sometimes they just cant

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I find it really strange that when by blood alone came out the AI was actually pretty good. I seen Germany and Italy invade Norway every game, Axis naval invade the UK etc. I really do believe they toned it down for the general players

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Its only a few lines of code to tell the AI to use meta templates etc but they dont. Only in mods

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Also Switzerland just poops itself every game now. I bet most people forgot they had a full focus tree. At first they actually did things. Now they just chill and watch the world burn

slender ocean
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Imagine what HOI4 could have been if they went full grognard instead of simplifying it for people

karmic prairie
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A world of pain I imagine

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New Military Industrial Organizations coming up look sweet

slender ocean
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It'd be my ideal wargame

karmic prairie
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As much as I like complexity, after a point it just becomes a headache.

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As of now it's at a good level, though some more complexity wouldn't kill me.

snow trout
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HoI3 with HoI4's combat is all that was needed. But im sure they sold a hell of alot more copies with it less complex

snow trout
snow trout
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Im messing around to see if I can sink the Royal Navy

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As long as the WW1 Bi Planes stay away were good

karmic prairie
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gotta one shot the Hood or no credit

snow trout
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No balls eh

karmic prairie
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and you have to send the Bismarck alone out to the north sea and make it back

snow trout
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lol

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Thats where we change history. We send it out with escort carriers

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Real talk though I noticed Semi Motorized have 0 hardness.

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So putting them with slow Heavy tanks doesn't work that well

karmic prairie
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motorized in general don't have much hardness

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mech is where it's at

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though the mech are faster than the Heavy tanks, their hardness is worth it

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80% hardness or something like that

snow trout
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Right but at least in TW it brings the hardness down to where its pretty much the same as a medium tnak division

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At least until you get Tigers.

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I do make the crappy heavy tank you get before the Tiger to raise production efficiency. Only 1-2 Divisions worth though. Keeping 1-2 mils on it until you get the Tiger helps alot

karmic prairie
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Def works if you're going for heavies

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I usually stick with Mediums w/ Assault Guns

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slowly phase out the mot. for mech

snow trout
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TW really wants you to use all of the armour types

karmic prairie
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as much as it wants me to, I refuse

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won the war regardless of what the mod thinks

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many strategies can work, just depends on how you apply them

snow trout
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oh yea for sure

neon coyote
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marine division be like

tulip flower
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Pennsylvania coming back like I LIVED BITCH

snow trout
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What badass and sleek ships. Its no wonder the admirals didn't want to admit the carriers were the future

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I've got the Bismark and its sister ship along with a fleet carrier still building then my battle fleet is done.

karmic prairie
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Naval combat in TW is jank as hell, like you gotta have strike forces of like 25 or you're dead from Larger Fleet Size penalties

snow trout
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I feel the navy game from HOI4 is made for a turn based strategy game. The AI can control dozens of small fleets at once while the player cant do that without staying on 1 speed

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Like theoretically you can I suppose but only in SP at best

spring yarrow
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The issue I've seen is having fleets travel far distances to engage a fleet that's spotted

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you almost need to limit the areas your fleet operates in

snow trout
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Do you mean when your fleets get there the enemy is already gone?

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because yea thats a pita

karmic prairie
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To get your fleet to engage without the enemy running you gotta place the scout on Do Not Engage so it'll track until the strike force hits it

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Helps to have strike forces split up and stationed in different regions

slender ocean
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I never saw the point to blasting through the game at 3/4/5 speed - you get no time to think and strategize or react

If I wanted to worry about fast micro in a strategy game I'd play an RTS, not grand strategy

karmic prairie
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5 speed all day good sir

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space bar is great

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I usually drop the speed to watch large naval battles and whatnot

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but generally I keep it at 4/5

spring yarrow
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^interesting

snow trout
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"Nave with the red bubbles!" lol tommy is a character

spring yarrow
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kinda cool how they made an arena map

spring yarrow
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Is there a game tomorrow?

karmic prairie
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Should be one, idk what mods though

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The Great Sandbox is fun as hell though, AI builds navies and airforce now that you can mess with

snow trout
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I may be able to play

weak plank
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If there's a game tomorrow, i'm more than down to play

karmic prairie
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Normally Mulholland hosts, but if he can't make it then one of us who normally play can take over

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I'll host a game for sure if all else fails

weak plank
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Just gonna be against AI right?

karmic prairie
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ye

weak plank
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Okay cool

karmic prairie
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PvP gets unhinged too easily

karmic prairie
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Will say though, Warren hosted the last one and that ran smooth as butter

tulip lagoon
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what we doin today

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maybe a minor nations only game?

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try to band together and change history

karmic prairie
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sounds kinda fun ngl

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also like the idea of the great sandbox, everyone gets to play as literally whoever, wherever you want

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no strings attached, just build up however you want, design everything to your liking and have a hell of a time killing shit

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AI will build full fleets too, battleships and all

snow trout
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Let's play something we all know how to play

karmic prairie
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the sandbox mod is literally vanilla just the world is shattered

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with systems to make life easier

spring yarrow
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im down

weak plank
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Did ya'll end up playing already?

karmic prairie
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One game happened, ended early, now we're doing a small side game down here

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running the sandbox mod

snow trout
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No matter your skill level everyone is welcome to play

snow trout
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Picked this book up today. It's pretty darn interesting. Gives me quite a few hoi4 campaign ideas.

spring yarrow
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I'm gonna be taking a break from HOI for a while. Good luck, have fun.

karmic prairie
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Same to you, sire.

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Also, Magna Europa is out finally

snow trout
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This looks hella interesting

karmic prairie
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Old version was nice, this one is more polished

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Highly recommend going historical, as I am experiencing pure agony on non-hist

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for some reason I thought going Kaiser was a good idea here

snow trout
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Do all the majors have focus trees?

karmic prairie
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Same trees as vanilla

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for all nations

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just adapted to fit the new provinces

snow trout
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Interesting

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That could be spicy

snow trout
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Boys im bidding on the motherload

devout bobcat
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Dayum... Some of those I would love in my collection

snow trout
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Same. Im hoping some jack wagon doesn't swoop in with a crazy bid at the last minute

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Who knows which games have cd keys that don't work anymore though. Id say every top 10 PC game from every year from 2000-2018 is in there though or at least alot of them.

snow trout
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Id send you a few of these Rozhkov but the shipping from here to Russia would either be confiscated or the shipping fees would be insane @devout bobcat

snow trout
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How is the new Stellaris DLC?

weak plank
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It's not bad, definitely like all previous DLC's where i would reccomend waiting before you buy

snow trout
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I may host a stellaris game on Sunday. If we have enough people I'll host a hoi game at 12pm est on Saturday

weak plank
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I would love to join in on a stellaris game or hoi game

karmic prairie
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New Stellaris DLC is definitely one of my favorites, since it fixed my main issue with the game

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that being, the early game felt lifeless and so little to do aside from survey/outpost spam

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I'm down for either one

snow trout
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Yea ive read quite a few reviews. They all say its a great idea but needs some fixing. That generally means is pretty good. I remember how people said the same thing about the last 2 HOI DLC's. Can't wait to try it

karmic prairie
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Should be good for a game tomorrow, as long as I don't get recalled

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people seem to love the sandbox mod thus far, so maybe we can give that one a shot. if anyone got ideas toss em in ere

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ima slep now

weak plank
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I may join the game, depends on if my PvP game gets cancelled or not

karmic prairie
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I'm good to go for game today, dunno about the others

karmic prairie
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Preferred start time is typically noon EST, but I don't mind waiting if needed

neon coyote
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when you gonna play today?

karmic prairie
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Ready whenever we get players

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Still shooting for noon est (10 minutes from now)

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but if not enough players then I'll hold out and see who else shows

snow trout
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Im gonna have to pass today. I have alot going on today

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Sorry boys

karmic prairie
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All good man, real life comes first

snow trout
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That giant box of PC games just arrived today.

karmic prairie
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I somehow ended up with nothing on a duty weekend

karmic prairie
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Anyone who wants to do a game lmk

rustic locust
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wha is lmk?

karmic prairie
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let me know

rustic locust
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ooo

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jejeje

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I can play like 2 or 3 hours

karmic prairie
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gotcha

snow trout
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Saw you guys playing yesterday but the new Zelda Game showed up at my door. Forgot I pre-ordered it way back. Imma chill on hosting HOI games. I've spent alot of my free time the last 2 years hosting them so everyone can have fun. Its time for someone else to run the games. I just wanna chill and play.

karmic prairie
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Noon EST Saturday (1600z)

snow trout
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I should be there and I am ok with either.

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Im reading the patch notes for HOI and they seem like very small changes. That may be the smallest change log I have ever seen in a Paradox patch.

karmic prairie
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New International Market looks hella nice

karmic prairie
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Game will be postponed until 2PM EST (1800z) due to my barracks just announcing a planned power outage for maintenance. Of course, right when I want to do something.

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why not during the week, idk

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when no one is here

snow trout
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Sounds good

snow trout
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The International Market update is going to be a game changer. USA will literally be the arsenal of democary. It will give neutral players a true game path

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I feel like they should bundle that with an Infantry Equipment Designer

karmic prairie
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Personally leaning towards a two part Stellaris game, 1st session at ~1400 EST Saturday, then 2nd session 1200 EST Sunday

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HOI4 will prob be one session, but I'm down for second session depending on the mod

snow trout
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If I play Saturday I won't have time to play Sunday as well. Summer semester sucks. Everything is crammed into 12 weeks instead of 16

karmic prairie
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Second Stellaris session can be the next Saturday then. Gives everyone Sunday

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HOI4 or Stelly will depend on who else shows and what everyone wants as a group

snow trout
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Sounds good

snow trout
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@old belfry Hey bud this is the chat we have been using for HoI. Welcome back to the dark side my friend

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Once a HoI player, always a Hoi player

karmic prairie
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<@&1007837798755213382> Game is set for 1430, so I can have a little bit to get everything back online. I'll start early if enough players show. Will either be HOI4 or Stellaris based on who shows up and what they want.

old belfry
onyx spire
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14:30 gmt or what time

snow trout
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ffs, I hate when people do stuff like that

neon coyote
snow trout
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It's EST

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bruh, in 4 hours

snow trout
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I hosted the games for 2 years until recently. Winter is now running the games and he is in the Navy. He won't be able to host until then.

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98% of the time we start at 12PM EST but this time is later

tulip lagoon
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His power is scheduled to go out on the ship he won’t be able to host until 1430 EST

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I may be there possibly late if hot join is available I’ll most likely slide in

snow trout
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Sounds good. Im working on a lady who is actively trying to scam me for a PS1. Saying I sent her a broken console lmao.

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Shes trying to get a refund and more than likely send me a different busted up ranky old ps1

karmic prairie
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It's basically a motel I'm in rn. I was thinking of running a mod called The Great Sandbox, since it gives all players an equal playing ground, so everyone can do whatever they want.

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Pure vanilla tends to not go well unless it's historical, and we've run that a million times

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Power still out for 2 more hours. I meant to put the time zone, but I forgot to since I had made past announcements with it included

snow trout
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Yea non historical has to be extremely well thought out if we have more than 3 players. If we just wing it like last time there is a good chance the same thing would happen again. That game made me super frustrated lol. I still feel bad about leaving but there is a first time for everything.

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If we want to run a non historical we need to do what I use to do. Put up a post in the forums and have people sign up for countrys

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It worked extremely well

snow trout
karmic prairie
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It was 1430 EST

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but now I can start whenever

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power is back early since they got done

snow trout
karmic prairie
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One of the voice rooms

snow trout
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where

karmic prairie
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Wdym where?

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Public voice channels, usually. moving over now

tulip lagoon
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voice room 1

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you will see us in there

snow trout
karmic prairie
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OG Xbox

snow trout
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Best PS1 WW2 Strategy game

karmic prairie
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Lobby will remain up

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ID: 90172685471091714
PW: 1234

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Mod: The Great Sandbox (Subject to change)

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Game is set to start 1430 EDT (1830z), but can start early if all players attending are present.

karmic prairie
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New ID: 90172686738365442

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same password

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may switch to vanilla if people want that

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but is time for game and everyone died

karmic prairie
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I guess just hit me up if anyone wants to do the game, idk why I bother scheduling a time.

neon coyote
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it would be nice if game would be earlier if possible

karmic prairie
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It's already an hour past the time I had

neon coyote
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I mean in future

karmic prairie
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I would've but I couldn't

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Normally at noon, but I had to push it back

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one time thing

neon coyote
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yeah for my timezone it's more preferable at noon

karmic prairie
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If people want a game, please let me know beforehand, so I don't waste my time.

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Not hosting any games unless people will actually show

karmic prairie
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Well it has been done

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I may now rest.

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I might try to host a game tomorrow if enough people roger up for it

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React to THIS message if you want to do a game, at like noon or something idk. Gimme a time and I'll see

snow trout
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I can only play for an hour or 2 or I would. School is kicking me in the nuts

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I did set this up though. Need a similar monitor on the left to match the right one.

karmic prairie
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Looks like my setup back in NC

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nice

snow trout
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Id like to get a matching monitor but it works for what I need it for. I can watch lectures and what not and do other stuff

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I'll admit it takes some getting used to. Maybe I need to tweak the settings somehow but its very easy to scroll off the main monitor onto the other monitor. So when playing HOI for example when I scroll right along the screen the cursor goes to the other monitor

karmic prairie
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Can set it to fullscreen so it doesn't leave the window

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Borderless it'll move seamlessly

snow trout
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I just sold a gamecube to a military guy. It is treated as me shipping internationally with customs and everything.

Box 5634 PSC 1
APO AE 09009-0057

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@karmic prairie How do these addresses work?

karmic prairie
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It will go to the PO Box listed there. If it doesn't fit it will be referred to a nearby Post Office or something, depending on what you shipped through.

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For me, it would go to my school's supply room, for example.

snow trout
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Shipped through USPS. I meant to say a gamecube controller not a gamecube. It should probably fit. I ended up messaging the guy, he is Airforce.

snow trout
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Was there a HOI4 update today? My game says there was but im not seeing one on the HOI page

karmic prairie
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not ssure

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Oh yeah

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Just a medals hotfix

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doesn't affect anything

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just gives the little warning but everything should work

spring yarrow
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Did yall see there's a new total war coming in october?

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Total War : Pharaoh

karmic prairie
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ye

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looks nice

spring yarrow
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I'm hyped for it tbh

karmic prairie
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given that I have a long weekend due to memorial day, I might try to host Stellaris

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if I don't decide to take the drive home

snow trout
snow trout
# spring yarrow I'm hyped for it tbh

Yea it looks pretty damn cool. I would love to play a multiplayer campaign. I've always wanted to do that with a TW title but don't know anyone else that does

karmic prairie
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May host a game Sunday, can't do it Saturday due to other plans

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Will only host if enough people roger up

karmic prairie
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Scratch that, plans crashed and burned

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Will host game tomorrow if people roger up for it

stuck cradle
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sandbox mod? Also what time since I still need to work out lol

karmic prairie
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Probably noon, depends on when people wanna

karmic prairie
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Most likely sandbox mod, but might run vanilla or something as well

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depends on who else shows and what would be best

karmic prairie
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Kinda feeling like doing a historical run

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Not sure if Allies or Axis

karmic prairie
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lemme know when we wanna do le game

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gonna sleep for an hour or so then i be on

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id do the game now but i cant keep my eyes open XD

snow trout
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Im down to play if we can get a few people

karmic prairie
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Nordic DLC here we go!

tulip flower
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April 9 1940(9/4/40) was invasion of norway

karmic prairie
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Hence why I said Nordic DLC. Beginning of Unternehmen Weserubung

quaint cliff
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anyone want to play?

stuck cradle
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Let’s the Nords rule!!

snow trout
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I called it lol. Hell yes!

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I really hope they update the German tree since they were involved heavily with each country there.

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Sweden will probably be something like Switzerland but actually fun because they aren't a city state

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If they make Norway actually be easily defensible it can give the Allies something to fight before the fall of france

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Can't wait

karmic prairie
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Should have something for the Germans to get to Narvik since it's impossible in vanilla if the Allies try to defend it

tulip lagoon
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Playin HOI today?

karmic prairie
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I'll hop in the vc in a few, gonna grab food first

spring yarrow
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Italian Carriers > British Battleships

karmic prairie
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Noice

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Gonna run a hoi4 game if anyone is up for one

karmic prairie
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Whenever we got enough people

karmic prairie
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Welp, next HOI4 DLC is announced finally

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Finland Dev Diary soon

snow trout
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Hell yea

snow trout
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This will make our Axis games even better since our crew usually has a sweden or finland.

karmic prairie
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Will likely host a game tomorrow at Noon EDT if enough people show

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At least 2-3 others will be enough, but the more the merrier

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Mod will be majority rules

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ie. if most want vanilla, we shall do vanilla

karmic prairie
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if you plan on hopping in react to this message 🙂

karmic prairie
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Due to getting out of school hella early (like 5 1/2 hours early) I may host an extra one tonight since I got nothing better to do

weak plank
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I would be very much interested in a game tonight

snow trout
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Im going to the park tomorrow with a few buddies in the morning. Depending on when I get home I may play some

karmic prairie
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For that game tonight, starting it in the next few minutes

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90173280664910850

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Pass: 1234

karmic prairie
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Canadian event

karmic prairie
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90173284114088962

neon coyote
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anyone for a game today?

karmic prairie
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I'm still planning on doing one at about noon EST

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I'm good to host it just gotta grab food first so i may be a little late

neon coyote
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hit me up when you want to run it

karmic prairie
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I'm ready to get the game up now

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Who all hopping on?

tulip lagoon
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I can play just not sure if I’ll be able to finish gotta be somewhere at 6

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@spring yarrow you game?

karmic prairie
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should be aight

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can always save and return to it if needed

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Server ID: 90173303637864450
Password: 1234

weak plank
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If anyone wants, i might run a game or 2 if the interest is there.

opal crane
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hey guys ! i frequently run mods on hoi4 , think like rt56 or kaiserreich etc and one problem that frequently comes up is THE. DARN. GAME. CRASHIN ! 😂
Ι mean it happens mostly when im far in the campaing, does anyone have the same problem ?

oh before you ask my pc can run like anything , like i can run vallhala on ultra smoothly

thank you in advance

neon coyote
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could be some issue with files that trigger crash when certain event happens

karmic prairie
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Make sure you are on the correct DirectX version, some mods don't like DX11

neon coyote
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I have the same issue with new order

karmic prairie
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Due to the hoi4 game earlier not going thru, I'ma host another one soon.

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Will be in Voice Room 2

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Will start the lobby up once 2-3 players at least have hopped in

weak plank
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Let's get this game going boys

karmic prairie
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Will attempt a game one more time, but those who want in should react to this message

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Just for a break in the 24hr op

weak plank
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hoi 4 when?

karmic prairie
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voice room 1

weak plank
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@spring yarrow

karmic prairie
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ID: 90173315022718978
Pass: 1234

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Vanilla HOI4 as of now

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hop on in fellas

karmic prairie
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Welp, I keep trying at this

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Game at about 1-2pm EST

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Only if enough people roger up, otherwise I got better things to do

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Ja oder nein?

spring yarrow
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I'm down

tulip lagoon
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same

karmic prairie
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Should be good to host at about 1230ish

karmic prairie
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Down in B/2-7 3rd Squad - Raiders Voice Channel for HOI4 fellas

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Holding on for anyone else who wants in

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otherwise starting soon

karmic prairie
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90173335040374786

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1234

karmic prairie
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Gonna host a game later at around Noon EST if enough people are on board

devout bobcat
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At hospital 😦

strong turret
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you okay bud ?

tulip lagoon
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discord is deciding not to work everytime I try to join a vc it just says "connecting" endlessly

snow trout
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I don't think I have time for a full game today but next Saturday I am completey open and would love to plan out a game

karmic prairie
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I can do a game next Saturday for sure

snow trout
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Hells yea lets do it

tulip lagoon
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now the shit is deciding to work

karmic prairie
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I'll be in a relaxed rules pvp hoi4 game if anyone wants in

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With another group of good fellas, but is open to anyone who wants in

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starts in about 30 min

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non historical

tulip lagoon
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may be down forit

karmic prairie
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I'm signed on for Spain

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gonna run carlist

tulip lagoon
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whos all been chosen so far?

karmic prairie
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Cadia Stands - USSR
Silverking - Italy
Pugsy - Germany
Cior - Mexico
Mjr121 - United States
France - Bill
Japan - Dystopian
United Kingdom - Boop
Greece - Tasz
Netherlands - General WeSa
Romania - Tallone
Spain - Sir Corn

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current listing

tulip lagoon
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damn they got my main bitch romania already

karmic prairie
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I was gonna do Portugal but I swapped to Spain

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Portugal would be a good option though

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Two monarchies in Iberia, one in Italy

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Italy is working with me, so if you ran monarchist Portugal we'd have a 3 nation alliance in the Med

tulip lagoon
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fuck it I can do Portugal brazil

karmic prairie
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noice

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invited you to the discord being used

tulip lagoon
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start time 1 EST?

karmic prairie
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ye

karmic prairie
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Off to bomb the Allies!

tulip lagoon
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you playin HOI?

karmic prairie
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ye

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gonna thrash some randoms

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hotjoin should be on

tulip lagoon
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im good gotta get up early

karmic prairie
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aight mate

tulip lagoon
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i normally would be down af

karmic prairie
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i might do one tomorrow

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got nothing til monday

spare tree
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whats open?

tulip lagoon
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fathers day ill be out probably not comin home till night time

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if im back early ill see whats up i didnt get my HOI fix this weekend

dim snow
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Do you guys host hoi4 games?

karmic prairie
#

ye

dim snow
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might have to join in one of those sometime 👀

karmic prairie
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Anyone down for some late night HOI4?

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Nazis ain't gonna kill themselves! Well, one of them will at least...

round marten
#

There is so much going on my brain hurts

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I am still new to the game and dont fully grasp all of the concepts

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but this is the best I have done so far, I quite litterally just hold moscow for some reason or another

karmic prairie
#

Nice! If you have any questions about anything lemme know. I've played the game for too dang long now.

snow trout
round marten
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I just need to reorganize now

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And consolidate armies

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I have too many all over the place

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Once production is back up, I will have a military of over 5 million I think

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Currently I have 2.6 in the army

snow trout
karmic prairie
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Planning a HOI4 game for Saturday at Noon EDT (1600z). Theme (mods) will be majority rules, if any are preferred over vanilla.

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For those who haven't participated in a game here before, the games are coop style, with all of us working together against a strong AI opponent, rather than PvP which can get toxic really quick.

round marten
#

I unfortunately won’t be around but maybe next week! Myself and @quaint cliff are planning to play a game on Friday too if anyone is interested and wants to join. I am guessing probably just vanilla?

quaint cliff
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who just came and said to play hoi

karmic prairie
karmic prairie
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I can do it if it's late at night, but otherwise will just be Saturday

slender ocean
spring yarrow
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bro, too soon

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🤣

slender ocean
karmic prairie
#

gonna learn a nation I haven't really played more than once or twice

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could be useful in coop axis games

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good ol bulgaria

round marten
#

I always just play Germany because it seems to be the easiest

karmic prairie
#

it is

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For coop games, we try to man up each nation in the respective faction

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Allies; UK, USA, Canada, Mexico, British Raj, etc.

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Axis; Warcrime trio, Romania, Hungary

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haven't really had a bulgaria yet so

karmic prairie
#

i decided to just wing it as bulgaria in ironman and it actually worked nicely

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dunno if i'd do it in MP over a major nation, but if needed I can do it

neon coyote
#

China is great if you know how to survive first 5 years

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endless manpower

karmic prairie
#

10w infantry with arty and AA spam

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Won't lose a single tile

weak plank
#

We doing a game tonight?

karmic prairie
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Tomorrow at noon is the plan for me rn

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Eastern time

snow trout
#

@karmic prairie Bulgaria is really fun if you learn how to run it. As long as it's a game where you can invade turkey it's a blast.

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I'm down to play whatever is needed tomm though. I haven't played in a month or so, so it's all fresh to me

weak plank
#

If we do an axis game, i'm down to play Italy.

obsidian timber
#

How long do these rounds/sessions usually go for?

karmic prairie
#

Typically 4-5 hours, depending on how good the connection is

obsidian timber
#

Damn, longer than i thought !

karmic prairie
#

Once you get into it, it doesn't feel like it

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as for tomorrow, if we do Axis I've been refining an Italy strat lately, or Japan or something

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dunno for allies

weak plank
#

I can always go Japan if you have an italy strat. If we do allies, i can go Brits and not get sea lioned this time

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Actually, if we go allies, i want to be China

tulip lagoon
#

what we doin today boys

weak plank
#

a motherfucking game of HOI4 is what

karmic prairie
#

hell yeah

snow trout
#

I'll go Germany or Russia

tulip lagoon
#

damn commie

snow trout
#

I feel my inner dictator today

tulip lagoon
karmic prairie
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Game set to start in about 10 min

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For those interested we're down in 3rd Section - Raiders vc

snow trout
#

@here HOI4 time boys

snow trout
#

@karmic prairie

weak plank
#

How'd the game go?

karmic prairie
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Ended up being probably the best Allies game we've done

snow trout
#

Yea I would love to do it again. I'd like to give the Soviets another go

spring yarrow
#

I have a confession to make

snow trout
#

Your gay?

spring yarrow
#

italy was bumped 3 ticks

snow trout
#

Lol

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Yea I figured it was something like that

spring yarrow
#

i wanted to see if we could do it

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and ya know what

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we killed that shit

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germany was the normal though....so that was kinda crazy

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they were just two ticks like we always do

snow trout
#

Germany didn't lose more than 3-4 divisions until D-Day. Usually they lose a good amount on the Eastern Front or in Africa

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They just kept stacking more divisions until the manpower was gone I think

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I mean they had 400 divisions in 1942

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Thats nutty

spring yarrow
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maybe because italy wasn't the "soft underbelly" it usually is

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i mean, winter still wrecked italy

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but it wasn't a walk through

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opening that front in Greece and then D-Day definitely spread germany out really thin

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you'd have been fine if you didn't get encircled early on

snow trout
#

Yea. My entire army of 24 width alpine troops were lost along with my chonky assault infantry

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I had 5 armys of line infantry with 2 armys of assault infantry and 1 army of alpine troops

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Every time I try and hold that mountain border with Hungary its a big problem. I can hold the mountains but the terrain around that is plains I think so its easy to get enclircled.

spring yarrow
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maybe level 10 forts on those tiles?

snow trout
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I should have just given that area up and held at the first river

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I had level 2-3 forts at most of the rivers as well

spring yarrow
#

Anyone down for a game ?

snow trout
#

Wish I could bro

weak plank
#

I'm down for a game

karmic prairie
#

If anyone is down for a game today I may do one around 6pm EDT (2200z)

tulip lagoon
#

They can’t win the air war if you nuke all their airports

stuck cradle
#

Who are you playing as?

tulip lagoon
#

Most recent game was Peru

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Became the Bolivar Empire

weak plank
#

I’m down to play as well

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Would be fun to do something like the entire world vs us, or a max ticked major against us

weak plank
#

Currently doing a road to 56 game where i'm playing as soviet going against max tick germans and italians

tulip lagoon
#

we doin this thing or what @karmic prairie

weak plank
#

I can always host as well if winter doesn't, but i'd like to do a r56 game if possible

tulip lagoon
#

havent done a RT56 game in a min im down

weak plank
#

I'm gonna go to voice room 1 and wait a little bit longer to see if @karmic prairie shows

tulip lagoon
#

warren says he is down in like 30 min

weak plank
#

Awesome, we can decide what mod to use and what we wanna do then

tulip lagoon
#

we are gonna do portugal brazil and peru south america faction

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argentina would be a good friend to have

spring yarrow
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super fun game in '56. Porto Brasil, Peru, and Facist America makes quite the faction

weak plank
#

I never even looked at my stats for Soviets, the entire german front was already at almost no supply of weapons

tulip lagoon
#

No surprise there you were a weapon power house 😂

karmic prairie
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I'm down for another spicy run later today, prob similar time

tulip lagoon
#

Depends on when I get home but I’d be down

weak plank
snow trout
#

I'd be down for a game depending on the time

snow trout
#

I love that faction name. TRES ANGELES DE LA MUERTE "Three Angels of Death"

karmic prairie
#

time for game is whatever works best, but as of now I'd say in about an hour or so

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1800 EDT

dim snow
#

Are you guys playing a game today?

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If so can I join?

karmic prairie
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all welcome

dim snow
#

We playing now?

karmic prairie
#

gotta see if anyone else coming

dim snow
#

k

karmic prairie
#

prob not gonna do a game unless we got a few more people

dim snow
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yeah thats fair

karmic prairie
#

if nothing in like 20 min then ima call it off, got other things to do

dim snow
#

k

karmic prairie
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ye no game for me

tulip lagoon
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Can’t do today sorry guys

weak plank
#

Anyone interested in playing today?

karmic prairie
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later on this evening sure

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prob same time as the last game

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i'm up for it basically any day just gotta have enough people on board and I'll get out of bed

weak plank
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I have SP at that time, so I wouldn’t be able to play til like 9pm est

karmic prairie
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i have to leave to get ready for class at about 1030pm est so i'd have to start earlier than later

weak plank
#

I am free all day today if we can more

karmic prairie
#

well anyone interested lemme know what times work best

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i'll be sleep til prob 1600 EST

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damn midnight schedule got me fucked up

slender ocean
#

Some people play Cod to take the edge off, I send 3 million men into Russia

karmic prairie
#

I'm sending 3 million men to Germany rn

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making it interesting by throwing every now and then

stuck horizon
#

When is the next community game

karmic prairie
#

We always shoot for Saturdays at Noon Eastern

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I'm good to go for it so I'll try to make it happen

snow trout
weak plank
#

I need a game of hoi4 sooooo bad

weak plank
#

I have my normal group i do big PvP MP matches with, but those are only so much fun

tulip lagoon
karmic prairie
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good question

karmic prairie
#

Though we have a game tomorrow, I could go for a game later today as well if anyone is up for it.

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Prob 1700 EST

weak plank
#

I'll be down for it

snow trout
#

I may be down for it. Shoot me a message when you set the game up to see what I am doing. I wouldnt mind practicing USSR. I would like to try the Roach build.

dim snow
karmic prairie
#

Will be setting game up in approx. 45 min.

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getting food

karmic prairie
karmic prairie
#

will be in VR2 for game

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nvm the vr2

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Shooting for 1800 EST as start

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ish

karmic prairie
#

if no game tonight then all good, more of a warmup for tomorrow if anything

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tomorrow at noon EDT fellas, come one come all

snow trout
#

Yea I've only got a couple of hours. Im going to save my game time for tomorrow.

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That way I can play the whole game tomorrow without worry

karmic prairie
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I gotcha

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I'm popping Tac East rn so no game

weak plank
#

Anybody down for a game after comp tonight? I'll host if need be

karmic prairie
#

I'm down

weak plank
#

My body is ready for todays game. What time we gonna start?

karmic prairie
#

1200 EDT is the goal

snow trout
karmic prairie
#

As for mods, I'm thinking maybe RT56

snow trout
#

Id say lets see who all shows up. If there is a ton of us it may be to easy. If its only 3-4 of us sure im down.

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I have grocerys being delivered between 11am-12pm EST today. After that im good to roll

weak plank
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I'm gettng readyt o hop on

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R56 sounds like a blast

karmic prairie
#

@here Anyone wanna hop in? Starting soon

stuck horizon
#

I would love to I should be on around 7 if anyone wants to play

karmic prairie
#

Will be doing a second Hoi4 game at around 6 after current game completion

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At this rate we'll be done by then

dim snow
#

so there will be a new hoi4 game at 6?

karmic prairie
#

ye

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maybe not exactly at 6 but expect one around there

dim snow
#

ok

karmic prairie
#

Game #1 is concluded

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Total curbstomp on the allies as Axis

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next game will prob be vanilla as Allies

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I'll run either UK or USA coop

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depends on who shows

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Game #2 set for 1800 EDT

weak plank
#

I'm ready for whenever we gather for it

karmic prairie
#

need fellas to roger up for it

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I'll do the 2nd game if enough show

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@here Apologies for the ping. For those who are interested, HOI4 game will be hosted soon, but only when people show.

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Voice Room 1

weak plank
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i'll hop in, but i'm gonna go make food quick

weak plank
#

@spring yarrow you gonna play?

karmic prairie
#

world ain't gonna save itself, boys

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Still awaiting potential players

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2nd hoi4 game is cancelled

dim snow
#

Sorry got caught up with some Canada Day stuff

snow trout
#

@karmic prairie Did you get any screenshots of our game yesterday by chance?

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@tulip lagoon The Romanian Motorized Korps was a Juggernaut.

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Wish you coulda seen it. Romanian Motorized is 100% the way to roll

tulip lagoon
#

romanian anything is OP

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you know how i feel about em

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hell ive made heavy tank destroyers with em 🤣

karmic prairie
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No screenshots but I have a save of the ending

tulip lagoon
#

Anyone done for a game tomorrow?

karmic prairie
#

sure

tulip lagoon
#

Or a late night one today? 🤔

karmic prairie
#

either works for me

tulip lagoon
#

After I get some dinner I’m down to run it

spare tree
#

I'm up to join if you guys do want one either tomorrow or anytime after 8:00 p.m. CST tonight

tulip lagoon
#

@karmic prairie you get Independence Day off?

karmic prairie
#

yes

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monday tuesday

tulip lagoon
#

Same

karmic prairie
#

i'll do one tonight and one tomorrow

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got nothing going on

karmic prairie
#

@here HOI4 game tonight 0100z (2000 CST, 2100 EST)

tulip lagoon
#

Same 😂

spare tree
#

at 8CST Just give me like a few minutes to make it home and I'll be ready to play we doing a theme today?

karmic prairie
#

unsure

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we shall see based on who shows up

tulip lagoon
#

what channel?

karmic prairie
#

vr1

spare tree
#

Going to be a little bit late helping a co-worker home

karmic prairie
#

hoi4 game tomorrow some time

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lemme know what works best for people

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earliest will be noon EDT

karmic prairie
#

Aight fellas, coffee is nice and hot, rations handed out, and the Germans want a piece of all of it! Well, fuck 'em, send them straight back home!
HOI4 in 2.5 hours!

karmic prairie
#

HOI4 in 40 min!

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Can push game back if people need it

karmic prairie
#

Road to 56 HOI4 in Voice Room 1 starting soon!

karmic prairie
#

Continental System Total Victory (Allies/Central Powers/Comintern) all defeated

tulip lagoon
#

just a few straglers would be easy clean up

snow trout
#

How did my Italy do

karmic prairie
#

they did good

snow trout
#

Did they stay true or turn traitor

karmic prairie
#

stayed true and kicked ass

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max buff soviet got fuckin rolled over

karmic prairie
#

For this coming Saturday (July 8th), I may have an interesting idea for a HOI4 game. To spice things up, I guess you could say.

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Will reveal soon.

snow trout
#

Yea were at the stage where our HOI group is just to good for most ai

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I have a thought though. Since R56 you can set more nations to do certain paths than vanilla and buff them.

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We can set every nation we can to join the enemy faction and buff them all

karmic prairie
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Germans gave us a good fight, but the Soviets got rolled mainly due to the mass amount of friendly AI troops

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I'm debating on Kaiserreich or Magna Europa: Reloaded as of now

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Or we could revisit Total War, just give people time in advance to practice with a chosen nation

devout bobcat
#

Only problem was...

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Sweeden being weird

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All though Portugal decided to file for an early divorce (civil war)

karmic prairie
#

Got arrested for fraud

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executed immediately by guillotine

devout bobcat
#

Hungary played a fucking UNO Reverse card

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"Oh, we're being invaded, but we're now a DIFFERENT COUNTRY LOL. Sucks to be you! DECLARE WAR AGAIN PLEASE! And your troops have to GTFO tho..."

karmic prairie
devout bobcat
#

I wonder who actually flipped the Austria-Hungary focus though

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If it was Austria, then probably Hungary ceased to exists, which explains this shenenigans

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If it was Hungary... In my head the invasion should have been keep going on

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Or I'm fucking stupid and game has it's own weird set of rules that even Devs have no clue

snow trout
#

It was def hungary

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I didn't see any fascist focuses from them

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Im assuming Hungary was already doing the focus when he was declared on

snow trout
#

If the current version is stable I'd love to give it a spin

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I've had some versions that just plain don't work in multiplayer but others that are not any different from vanilla

karmic prairie
stuck cradle
#

I got screwed as america

snow trout
#

Interesting

snow trout
stuck cradle
#

I could never hit war economy since I was stuck at 50% war support and the focused requires 51

snow trout
#

What goverment type did you go

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Its probably because Japan didnt attack China

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They need there focus path set or they just sit there

stuck cradle
#

Demo

devout bobcat
#

As Sweeden I just couldn't build the army. I had troubles with Norway but Denmark just fucked me royally

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and ofc the usual casualties shenenigans

snow trout
#

Gotta spam tint cav units and blitz the victory points

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Denmark you need marines or a handful of 40W infantry. Have the naval invasion ready planned and ready to fire before you declare

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If I woulda been there I could sent a few tanks to mop up

dim snow
#

Do you guys play pvp?

karmic prairie
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Not between 7Cav guys here, but some of us do with randoms on the side, myself included.

karmic prairie
#

Testing out the Summer Open Beta to see if the changes are good

#

will get back on it

karmic prairie
#

Well, it seems Carrier Dive Bombers are making a return

#

hell yeah

karmic prairie
#

Balancing needs work for sure, new rework makes it a pain in the ass to make good planes now.

#

At least airforces won't be as OP

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Naval bombers tho 🙂

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New naval bomber torpedo techs

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9 ATK, 4 Targeting; 15 ATK, 5 Targeting; 20 ATK, 6 Targeting, Respectively

weak plank
#

I wouldn't be opposed to doing a game where me and some boost AI try to fend ya'll off. It's really never a chance of losing game against just AI

karmic prairie
#

I'd be down

karmic prairie
#

May do a game tonight if anyone is up for it. Also one tomorrow at Noon EST as per tradition

weak plank
#

If we did something like that, i'd want to go either an axis major or the Soviets

karmic prairie
#

Soviets would probably be best since you don't really need to rely on AI

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But I wouldn't do it like a 4v1 or something

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and rules would have to be set

weak plank
#

4v1 wouldn't be bad though, I mean anything player is better than just all AI

karmic prairie
#

One person can't fight off 4 players worth of microing at the same time, without a great deal of effort.

weak plank
#

I've been messing around with R56 Stalin builds, and i think i found a really cheeky one.

snow trout
#

I can host the game this Sat. We can play allies or axis. I will set as many nations as I can against us to join the opposing faction.

snow trout
#

Im checking now to see how many nations we can manually force to choose the axis or allies in r56 and vanilla

weak plank
#

R56 has more options for nations joining Allies or Comintern compared to axis. Might be best to have Germany go Monarch and have Hungary form Austria-Hungary with Turks joining central powers

karmic prairie
#

Can always just use Toolpack and make the scenario yourself

weak plank
#

We could also do world ablaze, by far the hardest mod I’ve played

karmic prairie
#

I'd much rather do Total War in that case

weak plank
#

Total war isn’t updated as far as I know and has bad crash issues in MP from my experience

karmic prairie
#

It's been consistently updated, and MP has worked fine for us here before.

#

the problem is that mods like TW and WA aren't enjoyable for more casual players

#

While we want more challenge due to us just rolling the AI, there's only so much we can do before we sacrifice the actual fun

snow trout
weak plank
#

I agree, WA is definitely only for historical games. Rolling the AI just isn’t fun when you can do it without cheesing

snow trout
#

I was going to type it but it's to much so yea

#

We can 100% make a harder game for us if I set it up that way

weak plank
#

The toughest thing is it’s extremely hard to ever lose a naval engagement against AI if you know how to play the game,

snow trout
#

Yea the naval game isnt balanced in any way shape or form

karmic prairie
#

They're reblancing it a bit in the next patch

snow trout
#

Just as in history the Axis navy could and would never compete with the Allied navy

karmic prairie
#

Worked pretty good in the beta

weak plank
#

There’s always going to end up being a meta though. Allies can never lose the naval war, especially in the pacific as long as you build naval bombers and heavy fighters and micro them to cover air zones fleets are engaging in.

snow trout
#

Expert AI just updated on July 5th

karmic prairie
#

Can probably run a scenario with Expert AI

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Only issue is making it too difficult so that the only people having fun are the vets

spring yarrow
weak plank
#

Gotta keep ya'll on your toes lmao. It's hard to try when fighting AI cuz i could just Guard all my ports and throw everything on tac bombers.

spring yarrow
weak plank
#

Doesn't i didn't have my navy set on split fleet.

spring yarrow
#

i may not be "on time" tomorrow

#

so I'll probably sit it out, gotta pick up my brother from the airport in orlano and depending on whether his flight is on time or not I may not be back home until like 1pm

karmic prairie
#

There are also mods like Magna Europa: Reloaded, or Primo Victoria

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Primo Victoria is made by the Endsieg devs

snow trout
#

So do we want to wait for Warren today? Im ok with playing at 1pm EST if you guys are.

karmic prairie
#

I'm good to start whenever

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I'd rather wait than have less people. The more the better

weak plank
#

I'm down to wait, i wouldn't want to do a game if we have less than 5 people.

snow trout
#

ok cool

devout bobcat
#

The usual time, right?

#

Me, Wintere, Mul, King. So far would be 4

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Bunnel and Warren would be 6, 5 if I pussy out because of "skill issue"

karmic prairie
#

Will probably be pushed back an hour to allow for extra players

snow trout
devout bobcat
#

And this is a problem

#

I hit the plateu really quick which then I drop the game eventually

spring yarrow
#

My brothers flight is on time and lands at 10:38. It takes me about an hour to get from there back home

#

I might be here on time, but I also might be like 30-45 minutes late.

#

depends on traffic. It's orlando, so that shit is never predictable

karmic prairie
#

All good, sire

weak plank
#

@devout bobcat depending on what we go for the game, I’ll pick a nation right near so I can help you out and give ya some tips as we play.

stuck cradle
#

probably wont play today. Its my little bro birthday

devout bobcat
#

How little?

stuck cradle
#

he will be 25 today

snow trout
#

He's little where it counts

weak plank
#

He’d get along great with Warren then 😂

snow trout
#

I'm talking about his hands you sicko. He has tiny hands

weak plank
#

He's got those very tiny hands as well, he just calls em his strong hands

weak plank
#

My body is ready for HOI

dim snow
#

we paying todayw?

karmic prairie
#

yes

karmic prairie
#

good question

#

i honestly never really know

weak plank
#

Hopping on now

karmic prairie
#

half the channels are here and there, some hidden, so idk where people are

weak plank
#

Let's jsut go voice room 1 since we're the number 1's

karmic prairie
#

voice room 1 it is

spring yarrow
#

just got home

snow trout
#

im back. taking pictures of stuff for my store. ping me when were ready

karmic prairie
#

I'm back

snow trout
#

k

karmic prairie
#

@weak plank If you back it moved you to the AFK channel

#

gotta hop back

snow trout
#

I've either played to much HOI today or were being invaded

karmic prairie
#

June 21 1943, at least got the one thing I wanted out of all the agony

#

one final "Fuck you!" to the AI's BS

tulip lagoon
#

How’d the game go today?

karmic prairie
#

Ended up as a draw

#

Expert AI buffed the AI to hell

#

Got screwed in Brazil and Algeria, Turkey joined USSR and fucked us over

#

Air war ground to a halt

#

Turns out we had the AI on Challenging Expert AI difficulty

#

we did good for that difficulty, but it was still painful

weak plank
#

I passed out for 12 hours infront of my laptop during that break

snow trout
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That would explain a lot. For some reason I'm awake at 4am again. School stress is real

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I have my Programming 1 exam today

snow trout
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Imma give a Expert Ai run a go this morning. Going to try regular difficulty instead of challenging

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Yes that is a real german aircraft

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Machine Guns you say? Pssh

tulip flower
snow trout
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So I just did expert ai on regular without dynamic reinforcements and it was stupid easy. Took poland in 7 days and france in 2 weeks

karmic prairie
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So basically vanilla with salt and pepper

snow trout
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Almost seemed easier

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I dunno

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I did intentionally make as many troops as possible though. I had 2 million active troops as Germany Jan 1st 1940

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I didn't bother fighting USSR. I think challenging is fine as long as we play smart and everyone is on there toes

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Personally I enjoy not winning every game, and if it requires giving the AI some advtantages so be it. Its that or win every game.

karmic prairie
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Despite losing the air war, I was able to break the Soviet line as Moscow fell. All I had to do was battle plan and they just collapsed.

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I enjoyed that one, but the air war was pure BS

devout bobcat
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Well... Your planes alone probably wouldn't be able to do that much

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Somehow my much fewer airplanes in terms of score for air superiority was on par with yours

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I remember it was like 700+700, so that was giving us green air

dim snow
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Always add anti air support components

snow trout
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Im pretty sure we all had them. I was even using SPAA

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Expert AI can be absurd at times

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Going to try the summer opem beta right now to see what it's like

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In the developer brief video of the beta they mentioned they changed how the AI uses its infantry and its templates will be better to give the players more of a challenge so thats good

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I cranked up USSR and the Allies so lets see how they perform

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Also going to make the Graf Zepplin to check out the dive bombers

slender ocean
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You know we always think it's absurd the number of planes sometimes, but HOI4 doesn't even come close to representing the number of planes built by the major powers during the war. Literally in the tens of thousands

snow trout
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Interesting

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Russia didn't have 7000 fighters in 1 air zone

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But yea I know what ya mean

slender ocean
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Yeah that part is absurd

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I don't remember reading about the allies sending 600 bombers and getting intercepted by 8,000 German fighters over Hamburg

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😂

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Sometimes I'll be getting 3-1 kill ratios and somehow the AI will manage to keep up in air production it's rediculous

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What HOI4 needs is a separate manpower pool for pilots like how EU4 has a separate pool for sailors

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Germany and Japan had big issues with a lack of trained pilots as the war went on. They had more airframes than they had pilots to fly them

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They were sending dudes up to intercept bomber formations who maybe had like 5 hours of prior training flight time

snow trout
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Yea they need to do somethign more than just ace's as it is now. Its just a slight bonus and thats it

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They are on the right track with the medal system but need something deeper for pilots. Maybe trained pilots would be its own seperate manpower pool

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That way just spamming 10,000 CAS or Fighters just wont work

dim snow
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jesus christ

slender ocean
weak plank
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Air wing experience is actually a huge game changer in terms of it's bonuses if you don't equally vetted wings of the same tech.

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Radar, night fighting, the hard cap for detection, and if you have them fighting on the fly until you die stance all effect how you win or lose the air war, even against AI

snow trout
karmic prairie
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they always keep almost every plane they have deployed in airbases, rather than stockpile

snow trout
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Yea they do love to do that.

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It can't be that hard to code the AI to not overload air bases

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I would rather it be that air bases are cheaper to build but easier to destroy

karmic prairie
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They tend to not overload, I always see them move if I throw a ton of planes on a base and it overfills

snow trout
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I mean if it was needed propeller planes can take off and land off of a grass field

karmic prairie
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They should be easier to destroy, they're already super cheap to build

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Strat/tac bombing them does jack 90% of the time

weak plank
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I usually lose more planes to air accidents than being shot down.

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Strat bombing is absolutely amazing, prioritize static AA first, then bomb infra, and mils/rails/supplies after

snow trout
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They are 1250 IC per level. If you want a level 10 airport it cost more than a CIV

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I am really liking the cheap transport planes in the beta though. Not sure if they are actually cheaper than usual but they are only 20IC. 1 factory and I have 400 ready to go for Poland

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If you put 10 mils on them you could spam the ever living shit out of em

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You'd only be limited by the CP needed for air supply

weak plank
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I also was today years old that if you need to open up combat with, but also get a defense advantage in a battle where you're attacking, paradrop on it.

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I'm trying to find the video, i watched it earlier, but apparently paradropping changes the attack and defenders sometimes

karmic prairie
snow trout
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wtf the quality is horrible

karmic prairie
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Ah yes, Operation Ice Bear

snow trout
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It was surprisingly easy to pop out 3 1936 Carriers. All it cost was the first 2 naval focuses.

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Going to do Plan Z for the research boost for 1940 carriers next

karmic prairie
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Def need more screens or those won't last long

snow trout
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Yea im popping out cheap 1058 IC DD's now

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I put armourded flight decks on them instead of 1 more deck space for the flavor.

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So armourded decks give you HP as well as armour.

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Belt armour only gives armour

round marten
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Playing the Swiss with the By Blood Alone and La Resistance mods make it super fun! Really difficult to play but lots of fun.

snow trout
round marten
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Maybe sometime I will try it, their tree is massive

snow trout
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Marines invading Danzing while Fallschirmjäger's land and hold a corridor to Warsaw

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Week 1 of the war and the newly formed carrier task force cripples the destroyer forces

weak plank
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Tried a UK run, had 15 carriers, and over 300 support ships by 42.

snow trout
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Nice. Did you build any new dockyards?

weak plank
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Only built 8, but by 1941 i had more tanks, fighters, and strat bombers than all of the axis entirely, Medium fighters over sea lanes to take out enemy Anti Ship planes, otherwise loaded my carriers with strictly torpedo bombers. I'm a Soviet Main, so i'm gonna try the beta and build a navy with them with my non roach build to see how effective i can be.

karmic prairie
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May do a game today if fellas are on board

weak plank
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I'm on board, Mullholland won't be home till about 2est

snow trout
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I can play when I get home

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So in the beta you can not mix light and medium batteries on cruisers anymore. The old meta of light attack CA's is dead.

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I liek that they are changing up the meta. IMO it made light CL's pointless

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Now you really cant spam light attack on capitals anymore enless I am missing something

karmic prairie
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well you couldn't mix those on cruisers for a while

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they changed that way back

devout bobcat
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Super heavy tanks as support battalions btw

weak plank
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Just mass building carriers with screens and loading them up with Naval Bombers and having medium fighters getting you air superiority seems like the new meta, especially with how cheap they are to pump out.

snow trout
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No game today?

karmic prairie
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idk

devout bobcat
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Bunnel is in a CSC

weak plank
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I would, but i've been briefing and building our final strategy for tonights OP.

snow trout
snow trout
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So the Integrate War Economies focus doesn't hinder Hungary or Romania in anyway except for trading. IE Germany gets 13 Oil for 1 Civ instead of the normal 8. Also in regards to the subject manpower which means when you make puppet troops that percentage which is 40% for Satellites comes from that subject. IE I make a puppet division and as Germany I supply 60% of the manpower and Hungary/Romania supply the other 40%.

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Basicially its a win win

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Its pretty cool in singleplayer because I can make troops for them

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In multiplayer we have never done that so it doesn't affect us.

weak plank
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Doing a game this weekend?

karmic prairie
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I won't be this weekend, gonna go see family.

obsidian timber
snow trout
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Cav is family. Cav is life

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Cav is all

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I'd be down for a game tomorrow, i will host one

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We can try the beta if there is only a few of us. It's pretty damn solid.

snow trout
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@here Who is down to play today?

devout bobcat
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Should be able to

weak plank
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I may be down, just depends on if we do it in the afternoon or not.

tulip lagoon
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im in raider chat

snow trout
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Comin

devout bobcat
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Weird. I don't see you

tulip lagoon
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had trouble with the channels latelty just resync your discord real quick

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they made it easy just go to cav website and click discord under reasources

karmic prairie
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You fellas winning?

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Where on this did yall end up

tulip lagoon
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well warren was turkey I was france roz went with poland and mull went with russia

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I held the line and the west and pushed a little and poland capitulated

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russia was getting pushed back when we quit

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and warren lost the straits to turkey but was managing to hold his ground

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I dished out about 500k in manpower to them before things went south

karmic prairie
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Gave em hell, I see.

tulip lagoon
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I think in the long run we could have won but the morale wasnt there everyone was low on manpower and equipment but the allies had our backs and were making decent progress

devout bobcat
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Communist poland just straight up sucks

weak plank
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Did you let yourself get puppeted by Soviets as Poland?

tulip lagoon
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nah

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did the other way

snow trout
weak plank
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Poland as a Soviet puppet is ass. as long as you aren't spending more than 4 months in the civil war, and get soviets as an ally, you shouldn't lose to the german offensive

snow trout
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The civil war took about 6-8 months

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It happened in late 37 as well

weak plank
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You can use the decisions to pop it off mid 37 and have all but 2 states be yours at the start

snow trout
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He said he didn't do anything to extend the start date of the war but it most definitely was postponed

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Yea well he only had 2 states

weak plank
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He didnt' do the decisions that give him 2 states, there are map decisions you can do that give you territory and shorten the build up time

snow trout
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He didn't do any of the decisions. It was his first time as commie poland

weak plank
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I just learned about those decisions yesterday myself while testing it.

snow trout
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I wasnt ready for war as USSR either. Warren as Turkey popped off the war in mid 38 to take greece and we were at war ever since

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I had just stopped poppa Stalins purge mechanics when everything started

snow trout
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Would you guys want to run that again next Sat? We could switch out Turkey for someone else

devout bobcat
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Get better at playing Commies?

snow trout
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Yes sir

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@karmic prairie What do you think about running concentrated industy as USSR?

karmic prairie
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If you get the good tech early, like rushing 1940 fighters and tanks, then by all means have at it.

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Concentrated isn't bad by any means, just sucks if you are changing your production lines a lot.

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As USSR you lose lots of retention to the industrial tree, but you get growth and cap.

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Stacking with concentrated can be powerful.

devout bobcat
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Besides, if Poland can hold, you won't probably be bombed

karmic prairie
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AI Germany doesn't really strat bomb

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So it's not much of a concern anyways

devout bobcat
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Allies though

karmic prairie
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Yeah. As Soviets you don't typically face off against them, and they shouldn't be able to bomb your industry anyway if you build it east of Moscow

snow trout
snow trout
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This is probably the hardest i've ever fought the SCW. Fighting on 2 speed lol

snow trout
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Both sides have obliterated each other

karmic prairie
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Got a new Germany strategy for sending 7 volunteers to Spain at the start.

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Could work for Soviets too

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Make a ton of 2 width divisions

snow trout
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Yea I force deploy until I max out the volunteers as Soviets and Germany. Works great. Usually I can only reach 4 for Germany and 7 for Soviets.