#HOI4 (Hearts of Iron 4)
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I dont have school this week since im between semesters so im down to play a game during the week to
irl comes first
I can only do games during the week early in the day, if hoi4 or something I'd have to start at around 10am or so
Me and a few guys use to play in the mornings since they were euro time
millennium dawn has been updated
Oooh
I do wish the AI was better in MD (I mean, and vanilla too) because I don't remember if I already brought this up but I cheesed the hell out of the USA while playing as Iran in MD using cruise missiles
Murdered the entire US Airforce in Kuwait using runway targetted cruise missiles. They kept putting planes there and I kept hitting the airfield with cruise missiles because obviously my own airforce can't compete lmao
And they had no missile defense there
Yea the AI is only designed for Vanilla units and even then sometimes they just cant
I find it really strange that when by blood alone came out the AI was actually pretty good. I seen Germany and Italy invade Norway every game, Axis naval invade the UK etc. I really do believe they toned it down for the general players
Its only a few lines of code to tell the AI to use meta templates etc but they dont. Only in mods
Also Switzerland just poops itself every game now. I bet most people forgot they had a full focus tree. At first they actually did things. Now they just chill and watch the world burn
Imagine what HOI4 could have been if they went full grognard instead of simplifying it for people
A world of pain I imagine
New Military Industrial Organizations coming up look sweet
It'd be my ideal wargame
As much as I like complexity, after a point it just becomes a headache.
As of now it's at a good level, though some more complexity wouldn't kill me.
HoI3 with HoI4's combat is all that was needed. But im sure they sold a hell of alot more copies with it less complex
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Im messing around to see if I can sink the Royal Navy
As long as the WW1 Bi Planes stay away were good
gotta one shot the Hood or no credit
No balls eh
and you have to send the Bismarck alone out to the north sea and make it back
lol
Thats where we change history. We send it out with escort carriers
Real talk though I noticed Semi Motorized have 0 hardness.
So putting them with slow Heavy tanks doesn't work that well
motorized in general don't have much hardness
mech is where it's at
though the mech are faster than the Heavy tanks, their hardness is worth it
80% hardness or something like that
Right but at least in TW it brings the hardness down to where its pretty much the same as a medium tnak division
At least until you get Tigers.
I do make the crappy heavy tank you get before the Tiger to raise production efficiency. Only 1-2 Divisions worth though. Keeping 1-2 mils on it until you get the Tiger helps alot
Def works if you're going for heavies
I usually stick with Mediums w/ Assault Guns
slowly phase out the mot. for mech
TW really wants you to use all of the armour types
as much as it wants me to, I refuse
won the war regardless of what the mod thinks
many strategies can work, just depends on how you apply them
oh yea for sure
marine division be like
From Johnny Horton, Sink The Bismrack
Pennsylvania coming back like I LIVED BITCH
What badass and sleek ships. Its no wonder the admirals didn't want to admit the carriers were the future
I've got the Bismark and its sister ship along with a fleet carrier still building then my battle fleet is done.
Naval combat in TW is jank as hell, like you gotta have strike forces of like 25 or you're dead from Larger Fleet Size penalties
I feel the navy game from HOI4 is made for a turn based strategy game. The AI can control dozens of small fleets at once while the player cant do that without staying on 1 speed
Like theoretically you can I suppose but only in SP at best
The issue I've seen is having fleets travel far distances to engage a fleet that's spotted
you almost need to limit the areas your fleet operates in
Do you mean when your fleets get there the enemy is already gone?
because yea thats a pita
To get your fleet to engage without the enemy running you gotta place the scout on Do Not Engage so it'll track until the strike force hits it
Helps to have strike forces split up and stationed in different regions
I play at 1 speed while at war
I never saw the point to blasting through the game at 3/4/5 speed - you get no time to think and strategize or react
If I wanted to worry about fast micro in a strategy game I'd play an RTS, not grand strategy
5 speed all day good sir
space bar is great
I usually drop the speed to watch large naval battles and whatnot
but generally I keep it at 4/5
So I decided to host a showmatch where 2 meta players are gonna 1v1 for 300$.
The HOI4 1v1s are back and they are gonna be bigger than ever.
Tommy and the mod team are working hard on a new HOI4 1v1 mod for the future HOI4 League and the next HOI4 International, the biggest tournament in Hearts of Iron 4 history.
Basically this 1v1 HOI4 is a sh...
^interesting
"Nave with the red bubbles!" lol tommy is a character
kinda cool how they made an arena map
Is there a game tomorrow?
Should be one, idk what mods though
The Great Sandbox is fun as hell though, AI builds navies and airforce now that you can mess with
I may be able to play
If there's a game tomorrow, i'm more than down to play
Normally Mulholland hosts, but if he can't make it then one of us who normally play can take over
I'll host a game for sure if all else fails
Just gonna be against AI right?
ye
Okay cool
PvP gets unhinged too easily
Will say though, Warren hosted the last one and that ran smooth as butter
what we doin today
maybe a minor nations only game?
try to band together and change history
sounds kinda fun ngl
also like the idea of the great sandbox, everyone gets to play as literally whoever, wherever you want
no strings attached, just build up however you want, design everything to your liking and have a hell of a time killing shit
AI will build full fleets too, battleships and all
Let's play something we all know how to play
the sandbox mod is literally vanilla just the world is shattered
with systems to make life easier
im down
Did ya'll end up playing already?
One game happened, ended early, now we're doing a small side game down here
running the sandbox mod
We play on Saturdays at 12pm EST
No matter your skill level everyone is welcome to play
Picked this book up today. It's pretty darn interesting. Gives me quite a few hoi4 campaign ideas.
I'm gonna be taking a break from HOI for a while. Good luck, have fun.
This looks hella interesting
Old version was nice, this one is more polished
Highly recommend going historical, as I am experiencing pure agony on non-hist
for some reason I thought going Kaiser was a good idea here
Do all the majors have focus trees?
Boys im bidding on the motherload
Dayum... Some of those I would love in my collection
Same. Im hoping some jack wagon doesn't swoop in with a crazy bid at the last minute
Who knows which games have cd keys that don't work anymore though. Id say every top 10 PC game from every year from 2000-2018 is in there though or at least alot of them.
Id send you a few of these Rozhkov but the shipping from here to Russia would either be confiscated or the shipping fees would be insane @devout bobcat
How is the new Stellaris DLC?
It's not bad, definitely like all previous DLC's where i would reccomend waiting before you buy
I may host a stellaris game on Sunday. If we have enough people I'll host a hoi game at 12pm est on Saturday
I would love to join in on a stellaris game or hoi game
New Stellaris DLC is definitely one of my favorites, since it fixed my main issue with the game
that being, the early game felt lifeless and so little to do aside from survey/outpost spam
I'm down for either one
Yea ive read quite a few reviews. They all say its a great idea but needs some fixing. That generally means is pretty good. I remember how people said the same thing about the last 2 HOI DLC's. Can't wait to try it
Should be good for a game tomorrow, as long as I don't get recalled
people seem to love the sandbox mod thus far, so maybe we can give that one a shot. if anyone got ideas toss em in ere
ima slep now
I may join the game, depends on if my PvP game gets cancelled or not
I'm good to go for game today, dunno about the others
Preferred start time is typically noon EST, but I don't mind waiting if needed
when you gonna play today?
Ready whenever we get players
Still shooting for noon est (10 minutes from now)
but if not enough players then I'll hold out and see who else shows
All good man, real life comes first
That giant box of PC games just arrived today.
I somehow ended up with nothing on a duty weekend
Anyone who wants to do a game lmk
wha is lmk?
let me know
gotcha
Saw you guys playing yesterday but the new Zelda Game showed up at my door. Forgot I pre-ordered it way back. Imma chill on hosting HOI games. I've spent alot of my free time the last 2 years hosting them so everyone can have fun. Its time for someone else to run the games. I just wanna chill and play.
Completely understandable man, do whatcha gotta do. I'm all up for hosting them on Saturdays, given I've got nothing else to do here in the middle of nowhere.
For those interested, I am planning to host either HOI4 or Stellaris this coming Saturday. I'll leave a vote via reaction on this message on which one we want.
Noon EST Saturday (1600z)
I should be there and I am ok with either.
Im reading the patch notes for HOI and they seem like very small changes. That may be the smallest change log I have ever seen in a Paradox patch.
New International Market looks hella nice
Game will be postponed until 2PM EST (1800z) due to my barracks just announcing a planned power outage for maintenance. Of course, right when I want to do something.
why not during the week, idk
when no one is here
Sounds good
The International Market update is going to be a game changer. USA will literally be the arsenal of democary. It will give neutral players a true game path
I feel like they should bundle that with an Infantry Equipment Designer
Personally leaning towards a two part Stellaris game, 1st session at ~1400 EST Saturday, then 2nd session 1200 EST Sunday
HOI4 will prob be one session, but I'm down for second session depending on the mod
If I play Saturday I won't have time to play Sunday as well. Summer semester sucks. Everything is crammed into 12 weeks instead of 16
Second Stellaris session can be the next Saturday then. Gives everyone Sunday
HOI4 or Stelly will depend on who else shows and what everyone wants as a group
Sounds good
@old belfry Hey bud this is the chat we have been using for HoI. Welcome back to the dark side my friend
Once a HoI player, always a Hoi player
<@&1007837798755213382> Game is set for 1430, so I can have a little bit to get everything back online. I'll start early if enough players show. Will either be HOI4 or Stellaris based on who shows up and what they want.
Haha thanks man. Its good to be back after a break
Vanilla hoi4?
14:30 gmt or what time
what time zone
ffs, I hate when people do stuff like that
I would guess EST but I'm not sure
I hosted the games for 2 years until recently. Winter is now running the games and he is in the Navy. He won't be able to host until then.
98% of the time we start at 12PM EST but this time is later
His power is scheduled to go out on the ship he won’t be able to host until 1430 EST
I may be there possibly late if hot join is available I’ll most likely slide in
Sounds good. Im working on a lady who is actively trying to scam me for a PS1. Saying I sent her a broken console lmao.
Shes trying to get a refund and more than likely send me a different busted up ranky old ps1
It's basically a motel I'm in rn. I was thinking of running a mod called The Great Sandbox, since it gives all players an equal playing ground, so everyone can do whatever they want.
Pure vanilla tends to not go well unless it's historical, and we've run that a million times
Power still out for 2 more hours. I meant to put the time zone, but I forgot to since I had made past announcements with it included
Yea non historical has to be extremely well thought out if we have more than 3 players. If we just wing it like last time there is a good chance the same thing would happen again. That game made me super frustrated lol. I still feel bad about leaving but there is a first time for everything.
If we want to run a non historical we need to do what I use to do. Put up a post in the forums and have people sign up for countrys
It worked extremely well
I still don’t understand when we are going to play
It was 1430 EST
but now I can start whenever
power is back early since they got done
but what do you guys use for voice communications?
One of the voice rooms
where
Lobby will remain up
ID: 90172685471091714
PW: 1234
Mod: The Great Sandbox (Subject to change)
Game is set to start 1430 EDT (1830z), but can start early if all players attending are present.
New ID: 90172686738365442
same password
may switch to vanilla if people want that
but is time for game and everyone died
I guess just hit me up if anyone wants to do the game, idk why I bother scheduling a time.
it would be nice if game would be earlier if possible
It's already an hour past the time I had
I mean in future
I would've but I couldn't
Normally at noon, but I had to push it back
one time thing
yeah for my timezone it's more preferable at noon
If people want a game, please let me know beforehand, so I don't waste my time.
Not hosting any games unless people will actually show
Well it has been done
I may now rest.
I might try to host a game tomorrow if enough people roger up for it
React to THIS message if you want to do a game, at like noon or something idk. Gimme a time and I'll see
I can only play for an hour or 2 or I would. School is kicking me in the nuts
I did set this up though. Need a similar monitor on the left to match the right one.
Id like to get a matching monitor but it works for what I need it for. I can watch lectures and what not and do other stuff
I'll admit it takes some getting used to. Maybe I need to tweak the settings somehow but its very easy to scroll off the main monitor onto the other monitor. So when playing HOI for example when I scroll right along the screen the cursor goes to the other monitor
Can set it to fullscreen so it doesn't leave the window
Borderless it'll move seamlessly
I just sold a gamecube to a military guy. It is treated as me shipping internationally with customs and everything.
Box 5634 PSC 1
APO AE 09009-0057
@karmic prairie How do these addresses work?
It will go to the PO Box listed there. If it doesn't fit it will be referred to a nearby Post Office or something, depending on what you shipped through.
For me, it would go to my school's supply room, for example.
Shipped through USPS. I meant to say a gamecube controller not a gamecube. It should probably fit. I ended up messaging the guy, he is Airforce.
Was there a HOI4 update today? My game says there was but im not seeing one on the HOI page
not ssure
Oh yeah
Just a medals hotfix
doesn't affect anything
just gives the little warning but everything should work
I'm hyped for it tbh
given that I have a long weekend due to memorial day, I might try to host Stellaris
if I don't decide to take the drive home
I am going to my sisters house on Saturday but other than that I am down to have a good game sesh
Yea it looks pretty damn cool. I would love to play a multiplayer campaign. I've always wanted to do that with a TW title but don't know anyone else that does
May host a game Sunday, can't do it Saturday due to other plans
Will only host if enough people roger up
Scratch that, plans crashed and burned
Will host game tomorrow if people roger up for it
sandbox mod? Also what time since I still need to work out lol
Probably noon, depends on when people wanna
Most likely sandbox mod, but might run vanilla or something as well
depends on who else shows and what would be best
lemme know when we wanna do le game
gonna sleep for an hour or so then i be on
id do the game now but i cant keep my eyes open XD
Im down to play if we can get a few people
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Nordic DLC here we go!
April 9 1940(9/4/40) was invasion of norway
A clip from the Norwegian movie "The King's Choice" where the Norwegian crew of the 'Oscarsborg' fortress sinks the German heavy cruiser 'Blücher' during the opening hours of the invasion of Norway in april 1940. English subtitles can be turned on for this clip.
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Hence why I said Nordic DLC. Beginning of Unternehmen Weserubung
anyone want to play?
Let’s the Nords rule!!
I called it lol. Hell yes!
I really hope they update the German tree since they were involved heavily with each country there.
Sweden will probably be something like Switzerland but actually fun because they aren't a city state
If they make Norway actually be easily defensible it can give the Allies something to fight before the fall of france
Can't wait
Should have something for the Germans to get to Narvik since it's impossible in vanilla if the Allies try to defend it
Playin HOI today?
I'll hop in the vc in a few, gonna grab food first
when?
Whenever we got enough people
Welp, next HOI4 DLC is announced finally
Finland Dev Diary soon
#hoi4 #heartsofiron4 #armsagainsttyranny
Four Northern democracies are seemingly helpless against nearby predatory dictatorships. Despite their size, Finland, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden have a chance to avoid conquest through clever diplomacy or fierce resistance. Write a new history of the Nordic countries in Arms Against Tyranny, a new expan...
Hell yea
This will make our Axis games even better since our crew usually has a sweden or finland.
Will likely host a game tomorrow at Noon EDT if enough people show
At least 2-3 others will be enough, but the more the merrier
Mod will be majority rules
ie. if most want vanilla, we shall do vanilla
if you plan on hopping in react to this message 🙂
Due to getting out of school hella early (like 5 1/2 hours early) I may host an extra one tonight since I got nothing better to do
I would be very much interested in a game tonight
Im going to the park tomorrow with a few buddies in the morning. Depending on when I get home I may play some
For that game tonight, starting it in the next few minutes
90173280664910850
Pass: 1234
90173284114088962
anyone for a game today?
I'm still planning on doing one at about noon EST
I'm good to host it just gotta grab food first so i may be a little late
hit me up when you want to run it
I can play just not sure if I’ll be able to finish gotta be somewhere at 6
@spring yarrow you game?
should be aight
can always save and return to it if needed
Server ID: 90173303637864450
Password: 1234
If anyone wants, i might run a game or 2 if the interest is there.
hey guys ! i frequently run mods on hoi4 , think like rt56 or kaiserreich etc and one problem that frequently comes up is THE. DARN. GAME. CRASHIN ! 😂
Ι mean it happens mostly when im far in the campaing, does anyone have the same problem ?
oh before you ask my pc can run like anything , like i can run vallhala on ultra smoothly
thank you in advance
could be some issue with files that trigger crash when certain event happens
Make sure you are on the correct DirectX version, some mods don't like DX11
I have the same issue with new order
Due to the hoi4 game earlier not going thru, I'ma host another one soon.
Will be in Voice Room 2
Will start the lobby up once 2-3 players at least have hopped in
Let's get this game going boys
Will attempt a game one more time, but those who want in should react to this message
Just for a break in the 24hr op
hoi 4 when?
voice room 1
@spring yarrow
Welp, I keep trying at this
Game at about 1-2pm EST
Only if enough people roger up, otherwise I got better things to do
Ja oder nein?
I'm down
same
Should be good to host at about 1230ish
Down in B/2-7 3rd Squad - Raiders Voice Channel for HOI4 fellas
Holding on for anyone else who wants in
otherwise starting soon
Gonna host a game later at around Noon EST if enough people are on board
At hospital 😦
you okay bud ?
discord is deciding not to work everytime I try to join a vc it just says "connecting" endlessly
I don't think I have time for a full game today but next Saturday I am completey open and would love to plan out a game
I can do a game next Saturday for sure
Hells yea lets do it
now the shit is deciding to work
I'll be in a relaxed rules pvp hoi4 game if anyone wants in
With another group of good fellas, but is open to anyone who wants in
starts in about 30 min
non historical
may be down forit
whos all been chosen so far?
Cadia Stands - USSR
Silverking - Italy
Pugsy - Germany
Cior - Mexico
Mjr121 - United States
France - Bill
Japan - Dystopian
United Kingdom - Boop
Greece - Tasz
Netherlands - General WeSa
Romania - Tallone
Spain - Sir Corn
current listing
damn they got my main bitch romania already
I was gonna do Portugal but I swapped to Spain
Portugal would be a good option though
Two monarchies in Iberia, one in Italy
Italy is working with me, so if you ran monarchist Portugal we'd have a 3 nation alliance in the Med
fuck it I can do Portugal brazil
start time 1 EST?
ye
Off to bomb the Allies!
you playin HOI?
im good gotta get up early
aight mate
i normally would be down af
whats open?
fathers day ill be out probably not comin home till night time
if im back early ill see whats up i didnt get my HOI fix this weekend
Do you guys host hoi4 games?
ye
might have to join in one of those sometime 👀
Anyone down for some late night HOI4?
Nazis ain't gonna kill themselves! Well, one of them will at least...
There is so much going on my brain hurts
I am still new to the game and dont fully grasp all of the concepts
but this is the best I have done so far, I quite litterally just hold moscow for some reason or another
Nice! If you have any questions about anything lemme know. I've played the game for too dang long now.
Looks like you did ok to me
I just need to reorganize now
And consolidate armies
I have too many all over the place
Once production is back up, I will have a military of over 5 million I think
Currently I have 2.6 in the army
@round marten Here is a general guide that covers most nations. Some of the nations are more out of date than others but its still a very good guide.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1558681427
Planning a HOI4 game for Saturday at Noon EDT (1600z). Theme (mods) will be majority rules, if any are preferred over vanilla.
For those who haven't participated in a game here before, the games are coop style, with all of us working together against a strong AI opponent, rather than PvP which can get toxic really quick.
I unfortunately won’t be around but maybe next week! Myself and @quaint cliff are planning to play a game on Friday too if anyone is interested and wants to join. I am guessing probably just vanilla?
who just came and said to play hoi
i could possibly depending on the timeframe
I can do it if it's late at night, but otherwise will just be Saturday
My subs keep sinking, is my design flawed?
gonna learn a nation I haven't really played more than once or twice
could be useful in coop axis games
good ol bulgaria
I always just play Germany because it seems to be the easiest
it is
For coop games, we try to man up each nation in the respective faction
Allies; UK, USA, Canada, Mexico, British Raj, etc.
Axis; Warcrime trio, Romania, Hungary
haven't really had a bulgaria yet so
i decided to just wing it as bulgaria in ironman and it actually worked nicely
dunno if i'd do it in MP over a major nation, but if needed I can do it
We doing a game tonight?
Just a heads up usually Germany goes to the most skilled player because it can make or break games. It really sucks to invest 5 hours for nothing. A good idea is to learn at least 2 nations from each side.
@karmic prairie Bulgaria is really fun if you learn how to run it. As long as it's a game where you can invade turkey it's a blast.
I'm down to play whatever is needed tomm though. I haven't played in a month or so, so it's all fresh to me
If we do an axis game, i'm down to play Italy.
How long do these rounds/sessions usually go for?
Typically 4-5 hours, depending on how good the connection is
Damn, longer than i thought !
Once you get into it, it doesn't feel like it
as for tomorrow, if we do Axis I've been refining an Italy strat lately, or Japan or something
dunno for allies
I can always go Japan if you have an italy strat. If we do allies, i can go Brits and not get sea lioned this time
Actually, if we go allies, i want to be China
what we doin today boys
a motherfucking game of HOI4 is what
hell yeah
I'll go Germany or Russia
damn commie
I feel my inner dictator today
Game set to start in about 10 min
For those interested we're down in 3rd Section - Raiders vc
@here HOI4 time boys
@karmic prairie
How'd the game go?
Ended up being probably the best Allies game we've done
Yea I would love to do it again. I'd like to give the Soviets another go
I have a confession to make
Your gay?
italy was bumped 3 ticks
i wanted to see if we could do it
and ya know what
we killed that shit
germany was the normal though....so that was kinda crazy
they were just two ticks like we always do
Germany didn't lose more than 3-4 divisions until D-Day. Usually they lose a good amount on the Eastern Front or in Africa
They just kept stacking more divisions until the manpower was gone I think
I mean they had 400 divisions in 1942
Thats nutty
maybe because italy wasn't the "soft underbelly" it usually is
i mean, winter still wrecked italy
but it wasn't a walk through
opening that front in Greece and then D-Day definitely spread germany out really thin
you'd have been fine if you didn't get encircled early on
Yea. My entire army of 24 width alpine troops were lost along with my chonky assault infantry
I had 5 armys of line infantry with 2 armys of assault infantry and 1 army of alpine troops
Every time I try and hold that mountain border with Hungary its a big problem. I can hold the mountains but the terrain around that is plains I think so its easy to get enclircled.
maybe level 10 forts on those tiles?
I should have just given that area up and held at the first river
I had level 2-3 forts at most of the rivers as well
Anyone down for a game ?
Wish I could bro
I'm down for a game
If anyone is down for a game today I may do one around 6pm EDT (2200z)
I’m down
They can’t win the air war if you nuke all their airports
Who are you playing as?
I’m down to play as well
Would be fun to do something like the entire world vs us, or a max ticked major against us
Currently doing a road to 56 game where i'm playing as soviet going against max tick germans and italians
we doin this thing or what @karmic prairie
I can always host as well if winter doesn't, but i'd like to do a r56 game if possible
havent done a RT56 game in a min im down
I'm gonna go to voice room 1 and wait a little bit longer to see if @karmic prairie shows
warren says he is down in like 30 min
Awesome, we can decide what mod to use and what we wanna do then
we are gonna do portugal brazil and peru south america faction
argentina would be a good friend to have
super fun game in '56. Porto Brasil, Peru, and Facist America makes quite the faction
I never even looked at my stats for Soviets, the entire german front was already at almost no supply of weapons
No surprise there you were a weapon power house 😂
I'm down for another spicy run later today, prob similar time
Depends on when I get home but I’d be down
over 10k each of 1940 at, aa, support equipment. Had almost a quarter million guns, and was starting to produce t34's out the absolute black hole my eco was becoming
I'd be down for a game depending on the time
I love that faction name. TRES ANGELES DE LA MUERTE "Three Angels of Death"
time for game is whatever works best, but as of now I'd say in about an hour or so
1800 EDT
all welcome
We playing now?
gotta see if anyone else coming
k
prob not gonna do a game unless we got a few more people
yeah thats fair
if nothing in like 20 min then ima call it off, got other things to do
k
ye no game for me
Can’t do today sorry guys
Anyone interested in playing today?
later on this evening sure
prob same time as the last game
i'm up for it basically any day just gotta have enough people on board and I'll get out of bed
I have SP at that time, so I wouldn’t be able to play til like 9pm est
i have to leave to get ready for class at about 1030pm est so i'd have to start earlier than later
I am free all day today if we can more
well anyone interested lemme know what times work best
i'll be sleep til prob 1600 EST
damn midnight schedule got me fucked up
I'm sending 3 million men to Germany rn
making it interesting by throwing every now and then
When is the next community game
We always shoot for Saturdays at Noon Eastern
I'm good to go for it so I'll try to make it happen
I'll be there.
I need a game of hoi4 sooooo bad
The first step to addiction is admitting you have a problem
I have my normal group i do big PvP MP matches with, but those are only so much fun
yo where did you find this?
good question
Though we have a game tomorrow, I could go for a game later today as well if anyone is up for it.
Prob 1700 EST
I'll be down for it
I may be down for it. Shoot me a message when you set the game up to see what I am doing. I wouldnt mind practicing USSR. I would like to try the Roach build.
Can do an allies run if we want, or try some RT56 shenanigans
if no game tonight then all good, more of a warmup for tomorrow if anything
tomorrow at noon EDT fellas, come one come all
Yea I've only got a couple of hours. Im going to save my game time for tomorrow.
That way I can play the whole game tomorrow without worry
Anybody down for a game after comp tonight? I'll host if need be
I'm down
My body is ready for todays game. What time we gonna start?
1200 EDT is the goal
ye ye
As for mods, I'm thinking maybe RT56
Id say lets see who all shows up. If there is a ton of us it may be to easy. If its only 3-4 of us sure im down.
I have grocerys being delivered between 11am-12pm EST today. After that im good to roll
@here Anyone wanna hop in? Starting soon
I would love to I should be on around 7 if anyone wants to play
Will be doing a second Hoi4 game at around 6 after current game completion
At this rate we'll be done by then
so there will be a new hoi4 game at 6?
ok
Game #1 is concluded
Total curbstomp on the allies as Axis
next game will prob be vanilla as Allies
I'll run either UK or USA coop
depends on who shows
Game #2 set for 1800 EDT
I'm ready for whenever we gather for it
need fellas to roger up for it
I'll do the 2nd game if enough show
@here Apologies for the ping. For those who are interested, HOI4 game will be hosted soon, but only when people show.
Voice Room 1
i'll hop in, but i'm gonna go make food quick
@spring yarrow you gonna play?
world ain't gonna save itself, boys
Still awaiting potential players
2nd hoi4 game is cancelled
Sorry got caught up with some Canada Day stuff
@karmic prairie Did you get any screenshots of our game yesterday by chance?
@tulip lagoon The Romanian Motorized Korps was a Juggernaut.
Wish you coulda seen it. Romanian Motorized is 100% the way to roll
romanian anything is OP
you know how i feel about em
hell ive made heavy tank destroyers with em 🤣
No screenshots but I have a save of the ending
Anyone done for a game tomorrow?
sure
Or a late night one today? 🤔
either works for me
After I get some dinner I’m down to run it
I'm up to join if you guys do want one either tomorrow or anytime after 8:00 p.m. CST tonight
@karmic prairie you get Independence Day off?
Same
I’m down to start at 8cst
@here HOI4 game tonight 0100z (2000 CST, 2100 EST)
Same 😂
at 8CST Just give me like a few minutes to make it home and I'll be ready to play we doing a theme today?
what channel?
vr1
Going to be a little bit late helping a co-worker home
hoi4 game tomorrow some time
lemme know what works best for people
earliest will be noon EDT
Aight fellas, coffee is nice and hot, rations handed out, and the Germans want a piece of all of it! Well, fuck 'em, send them straight back home!
HOI4 in 2.5 hours!
Road to 56 HOI4 in Voice Room 1 starting soon!
Continental System Total Victory (Allies/Central Powers/Comintern) all defeated
just a few straglers would be easy clean up
How did my Italy do
they did good
Did they stay true or turn traitor
For this coming Saturday (July 8th), I may have an interesting idea for a HOI4 game. To spice things up, I guess you could say.
Will reveal soon.
Yea were at the stage where our HOI group is just to good for most ai
I have a thought though. Since R56 you can set more nations to do certain paths than vanilla and buff them.
We can set every nation we can to join the enemy faction and buff them all
Germans gave us a good fight, but the Soviets got rolled mainly due to the mass amount of friendly AI troops
I'm debating on Kaiserreich or Magna Europa: Reloaded as of now
Or we could revisit Total War, just give people time in advance to practice with a chosen nation
Only problem was...
Sweeden being weird
All though Portugal decided to file for an early divorce (civil war)
Hungary played a fucking UNO Reverse card
"Oh, we're being invaded, but we're now a DIFFERENT COUNTRY LOL. Sucks to be you! DECLARE WAR AGAIN PLEASE! And your troops have to GTFO tho..."
They need to add the mechanic Victoria 3 has, where if you are invading someone for a wargoal, but that country ceases to exist or something drastically changes where it's a different ruler, etc., then it gives you a heads up "Hey, your wargoal is not valid anymore, but you can keep fighting or peace out."
I wonder who actually flipped the Austria-Hungary focus though
If it was Austria, then probably Hungary ceased to exists, which explains this shenenigans
If it was Hungary... In my head the invasion should have been keep going on
Or I'm fucking stupid and game has it's own weird set of rules that even Devs have no clue
It was def hungary
I didn't see any fascist focuses from them
Im assuming Hungary was already doing the focus when he was declared on
Also I really, really, really fucking love Kaisereich
If the current version is stable I'd love to give it a spin
I've had some versions that just plain don't work in multiplayer but others that are not any different from vanilla
Just checked the save file, it was Austria.
So this is true
I got screwed as america
Interesting
How so?
I could never hit war economy since I was stuck at 50% war support and the focused requires 51
What goverment type did you go
Its probably because Japan didnt attack China
They need there focus path set or they just sit there
Demo
As Sweeden I just couldn't build the army. I had troubles with Norway but Denmark just fucked me royally
and ofc the usual casualties shenenigans
Gotta spam tint cav units and blitz the victory points
Denmark you need marines or a handful of 40W infantry. Have the naval invasion ready planned and ready to fire before you declare
If I woulda been there I could sent a few tanks to mop up
Do you guys play pvp?
Not between 7Cav guys here, but some of us do with randoms on the side, myself included.
Testing out the Summer Open Beta to see if the changes are good
will get back on it
okok
Balancing needs work for sure, new rework makes it a pain in the ass to make good planes now.
At least airforces won't be as OP
Naval bombers tho 🙂
New naval bomber torpedo techs
9 ATK, 4 Targeting; 15 ATK, 5 Targeting; 20 ATK, 6 Targeting, Respectively
I wouldn't be opposed to doing a game where me and some boost AI try to fend ya'll off. It's really never a chance of losing game against just AI
I'd be down
May do a game tonight if anyone is up for it. Also one tomorrow at Noon EST as per tradition
If we did something like that, i'd want to go either an axis major or the Soviets
Soviets would probably be best since you don't really need to rely on AI
But I wouldn't do it like a 4v1 or something
and rules would have to be set
4v1 wouldn't be bad though, I mean anything player is better than just all AI
One person can't fight off 4 players worth of microing at the same time, without a great deal of effort.
I've been messing around with R56 Stalin builds, and i think i found a really cheeky one.
I can host the game this Sat. We can play allies or axis. I will set as many nations as I can against us to join the opposing faction.
This looks super dope
Im checking now to see how many nations we can manually force to choose the axis or allies in r56 and vanilla
R56 has more options for nations joining Allies or Comintern compared to axis. Might be best to have Germany go Monarch and have Hungary form Austria-Hungary with Turks joining central powers
Can always just use Toolpack and make the scenario yourself
We could also do world ablaze, by far the hardest mod I’ve played
I'd much rather do Total War in that case
Total war isn’t updated as far as I know and has bad crash issues in MP from my experience
It's been consistently updated, and MP has worked fine for us here before.
the problem is that mods like TW and WA aren't enjoyable for more casual players
While we want more challenge due to us just rolling the AI, there's only so much we can do before we sacrifice the actual fun
I agree, WA is definitely only for historical games. Rolling the AI just isn’t fun when you can do it without cheesing
I was going to type it but it's to much so yea
We can 100% make a harder game for us if I set it up that way
The toughest thing is it’s extremely hard to ever lose a naval engagement against AI if you know how to play the game,
Yea the naval game isnt balanced in any way shape or form
They're reblancing it a bit in the next patch
Just as in history the Axis navy could and would never compete with the Allied navy
Worked pretty good in the beta
There’s always going to end up being a meta though. Allies can never lose the naval war, especially in the pacific as long as you build naval bombers and heavy fighters and micro them to cover air zones fleets are engaging in.
Expert AI just updated on July 5th
Can probably run a scenario with Expert AI
Only issue is making it too difficult so that the only people having fun are the vets
says the guy that got sea lioned lol
Gotta keep ya'll on your toes lmao. It's hard to try when fighting AI cuz i could just Guard all my ports and throw everything on tac bombers.
stop the cap 🧢
xd
didn't you get capitulated by AI germany lil bro?
Doesn't i didn't have my navy set on split fleet.
i may not be "on time" tomorrow
so I'll probably sit it out, gotta pick up my brother from the airport in orlano and depending on whether his flight is on time or not I may not be back home until like 1pm
There are also mods like Magna Europa: Reloaded, or Primo Victoria
Primo Victoria is made by the Endsieg devs
So do we want to wait for Warren today? Im ok with playing at 1pm EST if you guys are.
I'm good to start whenever
I'd rather wait than have less people. The more the better
I'm down to wait, i wouldn't want to do a game if we have less than 5 people.
ok cool
The usual time, right?
Me, Wintere, Mul, King. So far would be 4
Bunnel and Warren would be 6, 5 if I pussy out because of "skill issue"
Will probably be pushed back an hour to allow for extra players
I think your better at the game than you think. You learned it much faster than most people I've taught
And this is a problem
I hit the plateu really quick which then I drop the game eventually
My brothers flight is on time and lands at 10:38. It takes me about an hour to get from there back home
I might be here on time, but I also might be like 30-45 minutes late.
depends on traffic. It's orlando, so that shit is never predictable
All good, sire
@devout bobcat depending on what we go for the game, I’ll pick a nation right near so I can help you out and give ya some tips as we play.
probably wont play today. Its my little bro birthday
How little?
he will be 25 today
He's little where it counts
He’d get along great with Warren then 😂
He's got those very tiny hands as well, he just calls em his strong hands
My body is ready for HOI
we paying todayw?
yes
Hopping on now
half the channels are here and there, some hidden, so idk where people are
Let's jsut go voice room 1 since we're the number 1's
voice room 1 it is
just got home
im back. taking pictures of stuff for my store. ping me when were ready
I'm back
k
June 21 1943, at least got the one thing I wanted out of all the agony
one final "Fuck you!" to the AI's BS
How’d the game go today?
Ended up as a draw
Expert AI buffed the AI to hell
Got screwed in Brazil and Algeria, Turkey joined USSR and fucked us over
Air war ground to a halt
Turns out we had the AI on Challenging Expert AI difficulty
we did good for that difficulty, but it was still painful
I passed out for 12 hours infront of my laptop during that break
Lol
That would explain a lot. For some reason I'm awake at 4am again. School stress is real
I have my Programming 1 exam today
Imma give a Expert Ai run a go this morning. Going to try regular difficulty instead of challenging
Yes that is a real german aircraft
Machine Guns you say? Pssh
its probably some guard convoy ive seen em
So I just did expert ai on regular without dynamic reinforcements and it was stupid easy. Took poland in 7 days and france in 2 weeks
So basically vanilla with salt and pepper
Almost seemed easier
I dunno
I did intentionally make as many troops as possible though. I had 2 million active troops as Germany Jan 1st 1940
I didn't bother fighting USSR. I think challenging is fine as long as we play smart and everyone is on there toes
Personally I enjoy not winning every game, and if it requires giving the AI some advtantages so be it. Its that or win every game.
Despite losing the air war, I was able to break the Soviet line as Moscow fell. All I had to do was battle plan and they just collapsed.
I enjoyed that one, but the air war was pure BS
Well... Your planes alone probably wouldn't be able to do that much
Somehow my much fewer airplanes in terms of score for air superiority was on par with yours
I remember it was like 700+700, so that was giving us green air
Always add anti air support components
Im pretty sure we all had them. I was even using SPAA
Expert AI can be absurd at times
Going to try the summer opem beta right now to see what it's like
In the developer brief video of the beta they mentioned they changed how the AI uses its infantry and its templates will be better to give the players more of a challenge so thats good
I cranked up USSR and the Allies so lets see how they perform
Also going to make the Graf Zepplin to check out the dive bombers
You know we always think it's absurd the number of planes sometimes, but HOI4 doesn't even come close to representing the number of planes built by the major powers during the war. Literally in the tens of thousands
Interesting
Russia didn't have 7000 fighters in 1 air zone
But yea I know what ya mean
Yeah that part is absurd
I don't remember reading about the allies sending 600 bombers and getting intercepted by 8,000 German fighters over Hamburg
😂
Sometimes I'll be getting 3-1 kill ratios and somehow the AI will manage to keep up in air production it's rediculous
What HOI4 needs is a separate manpower pool for pilots like how EU4 has a separate pool for sailors
Germany and Japan had big issues with a lack of trained pilots as the war went on. They had more airframes than they had pilots to fly them
They were sending dudes up to intercept bomber formations who maybe had like 5 hours of prior training flight time
Yea they need to do somethign more than just ace's as it is now. Its just a slight bonus and thats it
They are on the right track with the medal system but need something deeper for pilots. Maybe trained pilots would be its own seperate manpower pool
That way just spamming 10,000 CAS or Fighters just wont work
This seems like such an obvious feature addition, I can't believe they haven't done it yet
Air wing experience is actually a huge game changer in terms of it's bonuses if you don't equally vetted wings of the same tech.
Radar, night fighting, the hard cap for detection, and if you have them fighting on the fly until you die stance all effect how you win or lose the air war, even against AI
Now you have me wondering if the AI trains it air wings or sends them out as rookies
It trains them
they always keep almost every plane they have deployed in airbases, rather than stockpile
Yea they do love to do that.
It can't be that hard to code the AI to not overload air bases
I would rather it be that air bases are cheaper to build but easier to destroy
They tend to not overload, I always see them move if I throw a ton of planes on a base and it overfills
I mean if it was needed propeller planes can take off and land off of a grass field
They should be easier to destroy, they're already super cheap to build
Strat/tac bombing them does jack 90% of the time
I usually lose more planes to air accidents than being shot down.
Strat bombing is absolutely amazing, prioritize static AA first, then bomb infra, and mils/rails/supplies after
They are 1250 IC per level. If you want a level 10 airport it cost more than a CIV
I am really liking the cheap transport planes in the beta though. Not sure if they are actually cheaper than usual but they are only 20IC. 1 factory and I have 400 ready to go for Poland
If you put 10 mils on them you could spam the ever living shit out of em
You'd only be limited by the CP needed for air supply
I also was today years old that if you need to open up combat with, but also get a defense advantage in a battle where you're attacking, paradrop on it.
I'm trying to find the video, i watched it earlier, but apparently paradropping changes the attack and defenders sometimes
Ah yes, Operation Ice Bear
It was surprisingly easy to pop out 3 1936 Carriers. All it cost was the first 2 naval focuses.
Going to do Plan Z for the research boost for 1940 carriers next
Def need more screens or those won't last long
Yea im popping out cheap 1058 IC DD's now
I put armourded flight decks on them instead of 1 more deck space for the flavor.
So armourded decks give you HP as well as armour.
Belt armour only gives armour
Playing the Swiss with the By Blood Alone and La Resistance mods make it super fun! Really difficult to play but lots of fun.
That would be a cool pick in one of our coop games. I don't think I've ever seen someone pick the Swiss
Maybe sometime I will try it, their tree is massive
Marines invading Danzing while Fallschirmjäger's land and hold a corridor to Warsaw
Week 1 of the war and the newly formed carrier task force cripples the destroyer forces
Tried a UK run, had 15 carriers, and over 300 support ships by 42.
Nice. Did you build any new dockyards?
Only built 8, but by 1941 i had more tanks, fighters, and strat bombers than all of the axis entirely, Medium fighters over sea lanes to take out enemy Anti Ship planes, otherwise loaded my carriers with strictly torpedo bombers. I'm a Soviet Main, so i'm gonna try the beta and build a navy with them with my non roach build to see how effective i can be.
May do a game today if fellas are on board
I'm on board, Mullholland won't be home till about 2est
I can play when I get home
So in the beta you can not mix light and medium batteries on cruisers anymore. The old meta of light attack CA's is dead.
I liek that they are changing up the meta. IMO it made light CL's pointless
Now you really cant spam light attack on capitals anymore enless I am missing something
Super heavy tanks as support battalions btw
Just mass building carriers with screens and loading them up with Naval Bombers and having medium fighters getting you air superiority seems like the new meta, especially with how cheap they are to pump out.
No game today?
idk
Bunnel is in a CSC
I would, but i've been briefing and building our final strategy for tonights OP.
It was changes in By Blood Alone so the last DLC. Shows how much I make navy's lol
So the Integrate War Economies focus doesn't hinder Hungary or Romania in anyway except for trading. IE Germany gets 13 Oil for 1 Civ instead of the normal 8. Also in regards to the subject manpower which means when you make puppet troops that percentage which is 40% for Satellites comes from that subject. IE I make a puppet division and as Germany I supply 60% of the manpower and Hungary/Romania supply the other 40%.
Basicially its a win win
Its pretty cool in singleplayer because I can make troops for them
In multiplayer we have never done that so it doesn't affect us.
Doing a game this weekend?
I won't be this weekend, gonna go see family.
But Cav is your family
Cav is family. Cav is life
Cav is all
I'd be down for a game tomorrow, i will host one
We can try the beta if there is only a few of us. It's pretty damn solid.
@here Who is down to play today?
Should be able to
I may be down, just depends on if we do it in the afternoon or not.
Comin
Weird. I don't see you
had trouble with the channels latelty just resync your discord real quick
they made it easy just go to cav website and click discord under reasources
well warren was turkey I was france roz went with poland and mull went with russia
I held the line and the west and pushed a little and poland capitulated
russia was getting pushed back when we quit
and warren lost the straits to turkey but was managing to hold his ground
I dished out about 500k in manpower to them before things went south
Gave em hell, I see.
I think in the long run we could have won but the morale wasnt there everyone was low on manpower and equipment but the allies had our backs and were making decent progress
Communist poland just straight up sucks
Did you let yourself get puppeted by Soviets as Poland?
Honestly he probably should have
Poland as a Soviet puppet is ass. as long as you aren't spending more than 4 months in the civil war, and get soviets as an ally, you shouldn't lose to the german offensive
You can use the decisions to pop it off mid 37 and have all but 2 states be yours at the start
He said he didn't do anything to extend the start date of the war but it most definitely was postponed
Yea well he only had 2 states
He didnt' do the decisions that give him 2 states, there are map decisions you can do that give you territory and shorten the build up time
He didn't do any of the decisions. It was his first time as commie poland
I just learned about those decisions yesterday myself while testing it.
I wasnt ready for war as USSR either. Warren as Turkey popped off the war in mid 38 to take greece and we were at war ever since
I had just stopped poppa Stalins purge mechanics when everything started
Would you guys want to run that again next Sat? We could switch out Turkey for someone else
Get better at playing Commies?
Yes sir
@karmic prairie What do you think about running concentrated industy as USSR?
If you get the good tech early, like rushing 1940 fighters and tanks, then by all means have at it.
Concentrated isn't bad by any means, just sucks if you are changing your production lines a lot.
As USSR you lose lots of retention to the industrial tree, but you get growth and cap.
Stacking with concentrated can be powerful.
Besides, if Poland can hold, you won't probably be bombed
Allies though
Yeah. As Soviets you don't typically face off against them, and they shouldn't be able to bomb your industry anyway if you build it east of Moscow
Got a new Germany strategy for sending 7 volunteers to Spain at the start.
Could work for Soviets too
Make a ton of 2 width divisions
Yea I force deploy until I max out the volunteers as Soviets and Germany. Works great. Usually I can only reach 4 for Germany and 7 for Soviets.