Vulture, Pixie, and Hater

[dim stone]

If the Vulture or Hater is unable to win, they should change roles. For Hater, if there are no killable roles present for them to kill when they spawn, and they can't win, then they change roles. For Vulture, if the number of bodies eaten is less than the amount needed to win, and there are less players alive, then they may have to change roles.

• Change role when it's impossible to win: ON/OFF
  Roles for the Vulture to change to: Amnesiac, Pursuer, Follower, Maverick, Taskinator, Sheriff, Mechanic, Doctor, Opportunist, Jester
  Roles for the Hater to change to: Amnesiac, Pursuer, Follower, Maverick, Taskinator, Sheriff, Tracker, Doctor, Opportunist, Jester, Refugee

[mint urchin]

Ew not the suggestion but the comment

[dapper basin]

I dont think Hater should change role? I mean, Hater win condition is that if theres no betrail add ons alive at the end of the game the Hater wins, right? Idk I've never seen this role in action

[charred arch]

Hater: Neutrals

As the Hater, you have no kill cooldown. However, depending on the settings, you can only kill Lovers and other recruiting roles and add-ons. Killing anyone else will make you suicide. You win at the end of the game with the winning team if none of the killable roles are alive. You will not be Lovers.

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TOHE by The Enhanced Network · Oct 1, 2024, 4:34 AM

[dapper basin]

How is Hater being unable to win in those cases? Unless if they are the only one that counts as crewmate

[fossil oar]

hater is glitched i assume, on 2.0.3 as hater u cannot kill the killable addons/role

[tiny knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110807679460450365/1235482537892122694/8opu51.gif

[north plover]

She means that if the Hater spawns with no betrayal roles or lovers then the hater should change roles

Or if all recruiting roles and lovers die without any option for the hater to kill

[fossil oar]

Hater wins alongside if none of them spawned, so hater should be kept normal

[north plover]

No. Hater needs to complete at least 1 kill in order to win

[fossil oar]

oh nvm

[leaden dagger]

Actually, Hater wins if every killable roles is dead

At least this is what TOHE Hater's description says

[charred arch]

Hater: Neutrals

As the Hater, you have no kill cooldown. However, depending on the settings, you can only kill Lovers and other recruiting roles and add-ons. Killing anyone else will make you suicide. You win at the end of the game with the winning team if none of the killable roles are alive. You will not be Lovers.

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TOHE by The Enhanced Network · Oct 1, 2024, 2:08 PM

[fossil oar]

Yeah Hater automatically acts like specter + opportunist if none of them even spawned

[north plover]

They must have changed the description because the old description said that the hater has to kill once to win

But the hater should change roles because it’s literally no fun to just do nothing the whole game

[dim stone]

Yeah

[leaden dagger]

Maybe you're confusing with EHR Hater?

[north plover]

Regardless of the amount of kills hater needs to make it should change roles if nothing is there for it to kill

[dim stone]

I initially wanted to include Plague Scientist with this (which would only be if the player they infected dies or disconnects, and the infection fails to spread), but I didn't really think about that. Even though it's a Neutral Killing role, if there's no infection spreading, maybe it could change roles too

[north plover]

It would be nice if tohe devs added this without a “don’t change the role” setting lol

[dim stone]

I may need to add Pixie to this

Vulture, Pixie, and Hater

Pixie is not an easy role to win as