#An elaborate essay about Puppeteer and all that crap

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brazen harness
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bro has BEEF against witch

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DAMMM

gentle sable
brazen harness
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also is "Controller" like the player has to be able to kill in the first place? or has to have minimum kill button?

gentle sable
brazen harness
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Oh... then that dosen't rlly fix the problem of people remembering who touched them last

gentle sable
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Why did I add a hyphen

brazen harness
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You do realize spellcaster and alike get exposed still?

gentle sable
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I'm confused

brazen harness
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People expose spellcaster on "who touchrd u last" even if there's all the time untill the meeting starts for the cursef to have been in contact with other people

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Dosen't always happen forx example if yhe round is long. But it's annoying

gentle sable
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Yea, Spellcaster can get away with crime by having their victim get in contact with many ppl, that's what you mean?

brazen harness
gentle sable
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We can have it so that the Controller has its own action delay so that it isn't instantly outed quickly

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Actually I got an idea : Controller has double click function
One click makes the delay short
Double makes it long

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So like, the Controller can simply do one click if he wants a quick action delay and double for a longer one

brazen harness
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yeah sure,

gentle sable
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I added it

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I would've prefered it to use something else called holding the kill button but that can't be done

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Where you can make the delay be proportional to how long you hold it (With a max obv)

distant bay
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Witch win with the winning team?

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But witch doesn't win with crews?

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Oh yeah i totally forgot with crews

gentle sable
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Witch sucks

astral crag
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i say just delete witch all together idk. shroud is witch but better

gentle sable
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Also made the actual Witch be named Spellcaster

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It's not as bad as Bloodsucker but man it sucks

elder dust
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пошёл нахуй, skill issue

gentle sable
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I don't understand Russia

elder dust
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same, but i understand russian

gentle sable
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🤔

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I tried to make a fix for the Puppeteer dilemma

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Cuz Loonie always picked the easy way out. Yea it is easy to pick on Loonie

brazen harness
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bro's entire personality is "Loonie is bad"

gentle sable
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Ex.: Evil Guesser is better than Assassin!

elder dust
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Lonnie was better than thewhiskas27

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tbh

gentle sable
elder dust
gentle sable
elder dust
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well assasin i guess that's all

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but i always play in russian so no difference

gentle sable
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Serial Killer -> Mercenary
Witch -> Spellcaster
Vampire -> Bloodsucker
Evil Guesser -> Assassin
Nice Guesser -> Vigilante
AntiAdminer -> Disruptor
EvilTracker -> Agent

elder dust
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some sucked, some are good

gentle sable
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Only one I agreed with is Serial Killer -> Mercenary

elder dust
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agent is kewl

gentle sable
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Eh

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You just said "well he didn't rename old ass roles that worked perfectly"

elder dust
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because i didn't knew he changed that much

gentle sable
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My bad

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Other than that

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Fuck

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Fixed

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Also am I being blind or did they change the number font in reactions?

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It feels off

astral crag
gentle sable
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Eh

brazen harness
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"Commander"

gentle sable
brazen harness
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WAIT NO, I know the best role name "Putin"

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cuz you know putin commands commanders to kill people if not they die

distant bay
gentle sable
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My lackluster naming is why I ask for better names in the comments

distant bay
distant bay
astral crag
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better than "evil tracker"

distant bay
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Needs a new name because "Agent" feels like a crewmate vibe thing

astral crag
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like what a pathetic excuse for a name..along with nice/evil guesser, anti adminer etc

halcyon spire
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Loonie could've easily made it so that they kill normally in a 1v1...
Not difficult to code.

Could be done now, but it should just be removed, in my opinion.

Shroud is another role which is just Puppeteer as a neutral...
but it's NK.

Only difference is the shrouded player dies if the Shroud isn't ejected, if they didn't kill yet.
It's just worse Spellcaster(which needs to be renamed back to Witch)/HexMaster.
Shroud should be removed.

Roles that force players to kill cause confusion, have a negative impact on the player, and require no skill.

astral crag
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2 versions of an imp role with neutral slapped on one of them is dumb imo

gentle sable
astral crag
gentle sable
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We can take it out altogether but it feels cursed to have TOHEN without an OG role

astral crag
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i say we just leave puppet and shroud alone and delete witch

gentle sable
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We could have Commander as either a new role or a hidden Puppeteer

gentle sable
astral crag
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nah but shroud is witch but better

gentle sable
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Ye I agree

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Also if Witch is removed, please rename Spellcaster back to Witch

astral crag
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it would just confuse ppl tbh

gentle sable
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The Spellcaster was called Witch until Witch was added

astral crag
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spellcaster sounds better anyway

astral crag
gentle sable
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When Loonie took over TOHE

astral crag
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and that was

gentle sable
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Before summer

astral crag
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and we're in november

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i think spellcaster is fine

gentle sable
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PLEASE tell me I didn't just accidentally leak shit

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I swear I sent it then had the realization

astral crag
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it'll say no access to ppl who can't see it i think

gentle sable
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Phew

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I swear I was starting to sweat

astral crag
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just delete it xd

gentle sable
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Yea

brazen harness
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HUH

gentle sable
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But yea this thread is an attempt of making the puppeteering/controling role situation a bit better

astral crag
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well skullboard put a donator perks msg so lmao

brazen harness
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LEAKS, WHERE

astral crag
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i think we'll be fine

brazen harness
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fuck, my logegr isn't on

astral crag
gentle sable
# brazen harness HUH

I posted the link towards the very first Loonie canary build and thought I fucked up big time

astral crag
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yea no i don't think people can see it

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it's not like you posted the literal build here

brazen harness
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uh.... so u just posted#🐤┃tohe-beta message

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damn, that's crazy

gentle sable
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Ye I only realized my fuckup

astral crag
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won't it say no access to non sponsors..

brazen harness
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what's even crazier is loonie has a super feminine pfp now and goes by they/them

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guess the TOHE rejection rlly tok a toll on em'

astral crag
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didn't they always go by they

gentle sable
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They can go by any pronouns imo

astral crag
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but again, who cares

brazen harness
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they went by he/him before

gentle sable
astral crag
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bahahah

gentle sable
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The man was far from being bright (my college classmate)

brazen harness
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It's really ludicrous how your'e gonan be transphobic over an individual, singular human who jsut happened to be trans bullied u

astral crag
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what

gentle sable
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Wait I messed up in sentence writing?

astral crag
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are you calling me transphobic

gentle sable
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NO, I MEANT MY CLASSMATE

brazen harness
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no, I'm not atleast

gentle sable
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FUCK I AM SORRY FOR MESSING UP THE SENTENCE SO BAD

brazen harness
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if one black man bullies or makes fun of me I'm not just suddenly gonna start hating a whole ass race 💀 (or if you're jsut transphobic without reason, tf?)

astral crag
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im so lost

gentle sable
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I wasn't calling you that, dw. I was refering to my classmate

astral crag
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anyways moving on

gentle sable
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Yea my mind got all scrambled up

astral crag
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delete witch hehe

gentle sable
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There's 2 scenarios I would be glad to see

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  1. The one I described in my thread
  2. We delete Witch, Commander becomes a role OR a Puppeteer hidden role
astral crag
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hidden role

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why not just make an option for puppet to single click puppet / double click kill

gentle sable
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The fact that Commander uses double click for something that isn't kill is unique as well

astral crag
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wait what's commander again

gentle sable
astral crag
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wtf

brazen harness
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OKAY GUYS, INFINITE IQ REWORK, instead of puppet making the controlled player kill. Instead the controlled player makes the next person they touch kill them.

gentle sable
# astral crag wait what's commander again

Conmander is the idea I gave. Works like Puppeteer, but can't kill regularly and if the controlled player doesn't kill, they explode. Clicking once will control the victim with a short delay, clicking twice will control them with a long delay

brazen harness
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10000% undetectability unless you do it near like 1-2 people

astral crag
astral crag
gentle sable
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So basically, Commander is like Puppeteer but way better and with a better thought of fixing the 1v1 issue

astral crag
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i swear puppet isn't able to kill tho

gentle sable
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The click-for-delays mechanic is there just to let the Commander choose if they are going to play sneaky or not

astral crag
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just make it a hidden role

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it's puppet with extra steps

brazen harness
astral crag
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the description is shit yea. it's getting changed next update tho i think

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"non spherical lightning" be serious

gentle sable
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They trying to teach us Marvel Quantum Physics 💀

astral crag
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LIKE

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what's with the whole lightning gimmick anyway

gentle sable
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Idk 💀

brazen harness
gentle sable
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I literally posted this to have a Puppeteer that doesn't suck balls and that isn't buffed by using the "double click to kill lol" lazy strat

astral crag
brazen harness
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I litteraly cannot figure out what it is suppoed to mean

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so I asume it's worthless bs put it for "show"

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I get everythign else tough

astral crag
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i love when ppl in my lobbies ask what quantization is and then i pull out the essay long lightning description

brazen harness
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oh jesus

astral crag
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is the old description in the bot

gentle sable
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I am going to eventually understand Gen Z humor before understanding Lightning role's description

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And that's saying alot

tidal fableBOT
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Lightning: Impostors

As the Lightning, you cannot kill normally. Instead, your kill button quantizes targets, which activates after a delay, causing the next person they come into contact with to kill them. Those who are actively quantized show a「■」next to their name. Additionally, those who have been quantized die if they survive until the end of a meeting. There is a setting to quantize your killer.

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astral crag
gentle sable
astral crag
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ok now i feel u

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i kinda forgot this was supposed to be a thread about puppeteer

gentle sable
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Lightning kinda works similarly but holy fuck whoever fully understands the role must have a PhD in Sciences

astral crag
distant bay
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Shroud is buggy and weird

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Or just completely remove the buggy part

gentle sable
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You must have a high IQ to understand Shroud and Lightning

distant bay
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It's weird. Weird. Weird.

gentle sable
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Maybe we will eventually fully understand those 2 roles in 2027

astral crag
distant bay
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Shroud is spellcaster + witch. But when Shroud got guessed or judged, the shrouded player still dies

astral crag
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but shrouds buggy af so

distant bay
gentle sable
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Yea it is stupid

distant bay
astral crag
tidal fableBOT
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Shroud: Neutrals

As the Shroud, you do not kill normally.
Instead, use your kill button to shroud a player.
Shrouded players kill others.
If the shrouded player doesn't make a kill, they'll kill themself after a meeting.

Shroud sees shrouded players with a 「◈」mark next to their name.
Shrouded players who did not make a kill will also have the 「◈」mark in meetings, where they'll die if the Shroud is alive by the end of the meeting.

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gentle sable
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But guessing the shroud counts as a kill by the game

distant bay
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Guessed players counts as alive in the same meeting they got guessed💀

tidal fableBOT
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Spellcaster: Impostors

As the Spellcaster, you can use your kill button to Spell (single click) or kill normally (double click).
During the next meeting, the spelled target(s) will have a 「†」 next to their name visible to everyone. Unless you die by the end of that meeting, all Spelled targets will die.

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astral crag
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dumb

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just delete every single role that was mentioned in this thread and call it a day

hasty plume
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thoughts spellcaster into sorcceor(mispelled rip)

gentle sable
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Not really