Undead

[floral mango]

Type: Mixed Add-on

Undead can only be assigned to non-crew killers.

Undead can't be killed until a specific amount of killing attempts. You can still vote Undead out. Non-Direct Kills (such as Puppeteer) counts as a kill attempt. Medic can't give their shield to the Undead.

Settings:
Spawn Chance: 0% - 100%
Can't be killed until: 2-5 kill attempts (default 3)
Killers with shield or immortality ability can be Undead: On/Off (Default Off)

[clever nebula]

Its too op i think

[floral mango]

I don't think so, since you can vote Undead out. But thanks for the critic

[limber nacelle]

Lucky exist

[floral mango]

Well lucky uses percentage, when undead uses fixed number.

[clever nebula]

Thats why its op
even if "can't be killed until:" setting set to 2

And the default is 4

[floral mango]

You could lower it to 3 :/

Also if there are a lot of killers, that does make sense

[clever nebula]

.

[clever nebula]

Yea it makes sense
Most of the server i joined have 5 killers

Or 6

3 imps and 3 nks
But its still op

[floral mango]

I've been thinking to a lot of cases

It does OP at some point

Imagine being Undead Snitch💀💀

[stone mason]

You think everything is too op

[stone mason]

That’s impossible?

[floral mango]

Just imagine it XD
I know it's impossible :/

[clever nebula]

Yes

[stone mason]

TOHE roles are already OP

Do you not realize that
When everything is OP nothing is

[clever nebula]

Its op cuz its a better lucky

[stone mason]

It's not? Lucky is entirely luck-based so they could just never die

Just set it to 2, then it'll die on the 2nd kill attempt

[clever nebula]

Lucky also have a chance to die on the first kill attempt

[stone mason]

That just means this is a more balanced role

[clever nebula]

I think Lucky is more balanced than this

[stone mason]

It's literally luck-based, you just demonstrated that

Luck-based does not mean balanced

[clever nebula]

Yes

[clever nebula]

And No, its balanced for me

[floral mango]

Workaholic is OP if the tasks are set to 1
Necromancer is OP if he can sweep out the whole lobby
It depends on the host, whether should the role to be OP or not

[clever nebula]

Yea, but i think this role already op if the setting is set to minimal amount

[floral mango]

You could've just vote the Undead out

[clever nebula]

It basically give you more life

And its similiar to Lucky

[floral mango]

Then why are you not complaining about Medic?

[clever nebula]

Medic cant protect themself

[floral mango]

They protect others from being killed, giving them a second life

Undead with 2 kill attempts are basically just like a medic protected them as normal crew

This Add-on is OP, depends on host

[clever nebula]

I thought its infinite life

Also if the madic dies, the shield is gone

[floral mango]

Nope, until the medic is dead I think

[clever nebula]

That what i just said

[floral mango]

If the medic is still alive until the very end, then it's OP

[clever nebula]

U said second life

[clever nebula]

I never see a medic still alive at the end

[floral mango]

At least if someone tries to kill them

[clever nebula]

Also the medic's target can be voted out

Making the medic useless

[floral mango]

Voting out the Undead is also making Undead useless

I actually wants to make that the Undead can survive ejection, but they already suffered from being pushed to the space and being thrown into the lava, so I don't use that idea

[clever nebula]

This idea is better i think cuz this role is similiar to Lucky

[floral mango]

Idk if that could works

[clever nebula]

I said the medic's target

Not the medic

Voting both still make medic useless tho

[floral mango]

The similarity of both cases are:
Both are protected from a kill attempt (at least once)
Both of their abilities are useless if they get voted out

And medic is just wasting an ability

[clever nebula]

Yes, thats what makes medic balanced

[clever nebula]

Voting out most of the role will make them useless

[floral mango]

That's my point. Also, Undead can only be assigned to Non-crew Killers. So voting out an Undead is just voting out a bad killer

[clever nebula]

So its not helpful

Its mixed

[tidal pendant]

Tbh I've had a different idea for an Undead addon but eh

[clever nebula]

If a crew killer tried to kill u, they will know u r bad

[floral mango]

They won't

Because medic exists!

[clever nebula]

What if Medic, Lucky, and Guardian are off?

[floral mango]

Honestly, why would crew killer wants to kill guardian :/

[clever nebula]

The crew killer wasnt know who they are

[floral mango]

Then they would know

Well, your statement is valid (saying that this add-on should be mixed)

[clever nebula]

Most of the player with Reverie role just randomly kill anyone they see

[floral mango]

Because Blood Knight exists, so at least they can narrow down the suspects

[clever nebula]

That role is evil

[floral mango]

Oh my gosh I hate reverie (unless as a lovers)

[floral mango]

Undead can only be assigned to Non-crew killers

Blood knight is a NK

[clever nebula]

Yes

Its evil so the crew will likely to vote u out

[floral mango]

That's a valid point, right?
Thank you for inisiating this debate btw

[clever nebula]

Yw

[stone mason]

What?

You'd be dead anyways how does that make sense

[sudden stratus]

I've had matches that ended in the first round

There wasn't even a meeting

So it's very op

[clever nebula]

?

[sudden stratus]

If Snitch got this addon it would be even more op

[sudden stratus]

op. addon

[clever nebula]

You wont cuz Undead give u another life
(Tbh idk what u mean)

[clever nebula]

The idea creator already said that and its impossible cuz its can only given to non-crew killers

[stone mason]

Would

If not for the addon you would be dead anyways so how does that make it mixed

[clever nebula]

The thing that makes this a mixed addon is it only can be given to non-crew killers

If there are no other role that can make u have more life/immortal (off), all the ppl will know ur bad/evil

[stone mason]

This role isn’t obvious

How is someone going to figure out you have this

[clever nebula]

.

[stone mason]

You just repeated yourself

[clever nebula]

Yes

[stone mason]

That doesn’t explain anything

[clever nebula]

So i dont need to copy-pasting

[stone mason]

Explain how someone would figure out you have this addon

[clever nebula]

If a crew killer tried to kill you and there are no other role that can make u have more life/immortal turned on, then that crew killer will know and tell everyone u r bad/evil

[stone mason]

And you’d get voted. So how is that a worse scenario than just dying to the crew killer without the addon?

It’s only mixed if in some case you’d be better off without the addon

[clever nebula]

Better having Lucky instead of this addon

And its better to have this as a setting for Luckey