Beginner Coding

[distant flame]

If you dont know the basics codecademy is a huge help

As for IDE’s just use visual studios community, free and easy to use / setup

And yes it’s going to take you a while before you can do anything to kernel level anticheats, and games protected by them

[wintry spindle]

exactly what i was thinking

kernal anticheats are INSANELY hard to crack so I dont have any idea on how long it'll take me to beat

is cpp.sh good for basic level commands?

[distant flame]

Also I recommend cazz on youtube, and the cherno for c++ in general

[wintry spindle]

just while visual studio is installing

[wintry spindle]

yes! cazz is who motivated me to start coding

I love watching his videos

[distant flame]

Online compilers work but lack saving and stuff that makes your life easier

There’s a very good website I’m going to refer you to but I don’t know the url from the top of my head, I’m gonna look it up quickly

[wintry spindle]

I'm not really looking to save anything, just run basic "hello my name is" "goodmorning" and other text commands

[wintry spindle]

Alright

[distant flame]

https://gamehacking.academy/lesson/1/1

[wintry spindle]

cazz mentioned this in his vid i watched

[distant flame]

Yeah c++ is a bitch to get into

[wintry spindle]

im definitely gonna use it

[wintry spindle]

i got the motivation of rocky balboa and the determination of mike tyson

[distant flame]

But you learn by coding so just do stuff that challenges you

[wintry spindle]

exactly

[distant flame]

Good cos you’re gonna need it lmao

[wintry spindle]

i think ima start by coding basic commands and my first cheats are gonna be white noise and bo3

bc no anti cheat

[distant flame]

Yeah do me a favor and dont share them 😂

[wintry spindle]

never!

i dont dish

[distant flame]

Otherwise I’ll have to ban you and neither of us want that

Lol

[wintry spindle]

and i wont ever cheat in a public match

just in private for experience

[distant flame]

I’m assuming you are familiar with cheat engine and how it works

[wintry spindle]

mhm

to an extent

[distant flame]

You know how to edit values

[wintry spindle]

i know what it does but not really how to set one up if u get what i mean

[distant flame]

Scan, stuff like that?

[wintry spindle]

I know of values and what they do, but thats about it

I am literally brand new to this lmao

[distant flame]

Pointer scans you need to learn asap, very simple in cheat engine

[wintry spindle]

gotcha

[cosmic violet]

my beginner playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlrATfBNZ98dudnM48yfGUldqGD0S4FFb
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNffuWEygffbbT9Vz-Y1NXQxv2m6mrmHr
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2C03D3BB7FAF2EA0

[wintry spindle]

ayy ty!

[distant flame]

Lonewolf the goat

[wintry spindle]

real!

[distant flame]

Also cyborgelf made some pretty decent videos

I dont think hes active anymore though :/

[wintry spindle]

ahh

[cosmic violet]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhixgUqwRTjzzBeFSHXrw9DnQtssdAwgG

[wintry spindle]

// my first program in C++
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
std::cout << "Hello, my name is wzrd and this is my first basic command";
}

ayyy lets goo

[cosmic violet]

this teaches mostly cheat engine and c++ and reverse engineering

learning more about networking too

[distant flame]

But yeah basically a pointer scan is just, u go into a game with no AC, lets say your health is 100. U scan for a value of 100. U then take damage, say your health is 58. You scan again for 58 and now you have the pointer for health and you can edit that how you wish

[cosmic violet]

well thats dynamic address, that dynamic address changes after you restart/exit the game

[distant flame]

Yes

[cosmic violet]

if you need to find a pointer address you could do it in many ways

[distant flame]

Location of code usually doesn’t though

But yeah gamehackingacademy teaches u that mostly so 👌🏻

[cosmic violet]

ye

[distant flame]

I’m by no means a modder or anything I just know the basics 😂

@wintry spindle u can always dm me but cant promise I always have an answer for you

[cosmic violet]

for newer siege versions you might need to unpack the game to access some of the game code, but like for shadow legacy its fine
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt9cUwGw6CYGfoSL9PUlpKi23z0_R2gz-

[wintry spindle]

whats my issue here?

[cosmic violet]

uhh

what IDE is that

[wintry spindle]

CPlusPlus.sh

just while visual studio installs

[distant flame]

No return value?

[cosmic violet]

no a return value doesnt matter since its a main function

[distant flame]

Fair but still useful no?

[cosmic violet]

the compiler knows its the main function so it just returns in compile time

[distant flame]

👌🏻

Compile again

Wzrd

[cosmic violet]

you can try uhh

other c++ compilers

like GNU

[wintry spindle]

working now!

[cosmic violet]

ah ok

[distant flame]

Didnt compile after changes?😂

[wintry spindle]

really weird why it wasnt the first time im ngl

[wintry spindle]

i had

i guess it bugged

[distant flame]

Welcome to online IDE’s

Visual studios, trust

Use it

[cosmic violet]

^

[distant flame]

Also if ur gonna get into reversing and stuff

Dont be scared of assembly

[cosmic violet]

uhh yes

100% you gonna learn assembly

[distant flame]

Lonewolf you sent me that online compiler no?

For c++ to assembly

[cosmic violet]

ye

https://godbolt.org/

[distant flame]

Yeah i dont have a link to it but use that

Yesss

Ty sir

[cosmic violet]

its cool

[wintry spindle]

i used it to run a valorant skin changer one time, but then uninstalled it

so im reinstalling rn

[cosmic violet]

but assembly x86 and assembly x64 is alot different

[distant flame]

Astrea told me

But I don’t know enough

To know the differences

He told me though xD I’m just too stupid to remember

[wintry spindle]

ok can i read out my notes to you

so i can see if im getting this right?

[distant flame]

Ofc

[cosmic violet]

you could use ghidra(free) or IDA pro(paid) for reverse engineering

but i dont recommened ghidra for big games

[distant flame]

X64dbg

[wintry spindle]

hash lines = directive read by preprocessor

wtf

[cosmic violet]

x64/86dbg works for dumping games

[distant flame]

Misread ur message ngl

Ida pro u need cracked version that shit is expensiveeeee

[cosmic violet]

he mean
#include
#if
predefined macro

i never used it

[wintry spindle]

int main() lines iniate the code to start

[cosmic violet]

but useful

[distant flame]

Yep main function

[cosmic violet]

basically
#include "file.h" just copy pastes the file into the current cpp/hpp file

[distant flame]

Header files and shit, id say dont worry about them for now learn c++ basics first, but u need to know how they function essentially

[cosmic violet]

header files are usually for organizing stuff instead of putting all the stuff in one file

[distant flame]

Yeah exactly

Ahhhh you got lonewolf to open a project in vs😂

[cosmic violet]

yes

im testing something to put it here

[distant flame]

I need to get back into coding fr

Just been busy with job and shit

Havent coded in months

[wintry spindle]

do either of you have .txt file with notes over this i can go thru?

[distant flame]

I do actually yeah lmao

Imma boot up my pc brb

[wintry spindle]

alr

[cosmic violet]

uhh

i dont think so

i just follow the tutorials, after a few sessions i go make personal projects

[distant flame]

fuckk mightve deleted it

[wintry spindle]

right

[distant flame]

yeah I deleted it I think :/

[cosmic violet]

file.h

}

main.cpp

#include <iostream>

void function(){
    std::cout << "Hello world\n";
#include "test.h"

int main() {

    function();

}

Output

Hello world

that works

crazy

[distant flame]

have u coded in any other languages before @wintry spindle

[cosmic violet]

you could look at my github but disclaimer its messy

https://github.com/BHLoneWolf0?tab=repositories

[distant flame]

I dont have anything public on my github so no use in linking it xd

[cosmic violet]

real

[wintry spindle]

no sir

[distant flame]

dude wants a challenge

[wintry spindle]

what does this mean

[wintry spindle]

of course

[distant flame]

yeah c++ is pretty worthless compared to other languages for most basic programs so its gonna be harder than python for example

but for game reversing its prob the best one out there

[cosmic violet]

#include <iostream>

[distant flame]

low level language

[cosmic violet]

you missed the <>

[distant flame]

^^

[cosmic violet]

and the "line two:; should be "line two";

[wintry spindle]

nvm got it running

[distant flame]

👌

[wintry spindle]

i saw

[wintry spindle]

i saw

[cosmic violet]

some people say c++ is a bad start for programming, but to me i started c++ and it went badly then its fine

still struggling tho

just dont quit

[distant flame]

struggle never ends

[cosmic violet]

real

[distant flame]

coding:
code doesnt work
dont know why
paste solution from internet
code doesnt work
dont know why
run again
code works now
dont know why

[cosmic violet]

hmm

cant relate to that

i usually go for docs and no stackoverflow

[wintry spindle]

whats my error here?

[cosmic violet]

uhh

[distant flame]

well firstly dont put space in between main and ()

no clue if that matters

but dont do that

[wintry spindle]

it doesnt

but okay

[cosmic violet]

i think the c++.sh is bit buggy

💀

because that will work

[distant flame]

yeah

lol

[wintry spindle]

yeah uh

it says

error at std::cout

[cosmic violet]

oh

you have to #include <iostream>

[distant flame]

include iostream

yeah

[wintry spindle]

oh okay

[cosmic violet]

std -> standard library

standard library -> iostream

thats the c++ standard library

[distant flame]

iostream = input output stream

if that makes it easier to remember

[cosmic violet]

for c its stdio.h btw

but we're on c++ so it doesnt matter

[wintry spindle]

in my notes too 😭

[distant flame]

good note

[cosmic violet]

Iostreams smh

iostream

[wintry spindle]

issue now?

[cosmic violet]

oh

you have to put space

after the int main()

[wintry spindle]

bruh

[distant flame]

what

[cosmic violet]

should be like

#include <iostream>
int main() {std::cout << "one line";}

i dont know how to explain it so i just typed it out

[distant flame]

not after int main innit 😭

[wintry spindle]

ayy

nice

[cosmic violet]

👏

[wintry spindle]

nice nice

getting somewhere

kinda

[distant flame]

banger output

[wintry spindle]

have to figure out the space

between one line

and real

[cosmic violet]

you could << std::endl after the double quotation

[distant flame]

or just \n

[cosmic violet]

^

[distant flame]

but \n needs to be in quotations

so "\n"

[cosmic violet]

ye

"mommy\n"

[distant flame]

ok bro

[cosmic violet]

what

[wintry spindle]

oh

[cosmic violet]

😭

[distant flame]

"mhm yes mommy" << "\n"; also works for clarification

[wintry spindle]

where is double quotation?

[distant flame]

std::cout << "test" << std::endl;

[wintry spindle]

ahh

ok nice

assistance on how to set vs up? like what options do i choose

just cpp?

[cosmic violet]

yes

[distant flame]

yeah

u can always add other stuff later

[wintry spindle]

just this one correct?

[distant flame]

so dont worry about it for now

[cosmic violet]

yup

[distant flame]

yeah check that box

[wintry spindle]

ok its installing

[wintry spindle]

how i do this

[cosmic violet]

hm?

[wintry spindle]

make the code box thingy

[cosmic violet]

oh

just put the tilda ``

[distant flame]

test

3 tildas before and 3 after

cool haha

[cosmic violet]

or you want the code box
```programminglangauge

```

for c++ its cpp

[wintry spindle]

int main () { std::cout << "one line"; std::cout << "real shot caller, straight baller"; }

wtf

smh

[cosmic violet]

^

[wintry spindle]

oh okay

{
  std::cout <<
    "one line";
  std::cout
    << "real shot caller, straight baller";
} ```

there

[cosmic violet]

perfect

[distant flame]

also gives syntax highlighting i think

[wintry spindle]

should run the same right?

[distant flame]

or not?

[cosmic violet]

only functions

[distant flame]

ah

[cosmic violet]

and strings

[distant flame]

ait ait

[wintry spindle]

wait i dont wanna be an it man

[cosmic violet]

yes

[wintry spindle]

this is just a side hobby ig

[distant flame]

I would recommend keeping std::cout << "thingy thingy \n"; on one line

good practice in general

[wintry spindle]

wdym?

[distant flame]

its 2 lines

keep it 1 line to make it easy to read

[wintry spindle]

ahh

[cosmic violet]

man you got some good english smh

[distant flame]

but you are using indents (i think thats what its called?) so thats good

just tab basically

[cosmic violet]

yes

[distant flame]

we all got good english wym 😂

[cosmic violet]

makes stuff pretty

[cosmic violet]

no how you explain things

i cant explain shit

[distant flame]

dunno

apparently dutch people are good english speakers

my experience tells me otherwise but

[cosmic violet]

thought you are canadian

[distant flame]

nah im dutch lol

[wintry spindle]

Like so?

[distant flame]

precisely

[cosmic violet]

[wintry spindle]

whats the difference in "\n" and std::endl;

[cosmic violet]

its the same thing

it breaks line

[wintry spindle]

alright

i think ima use std::endl; seems easier to me

[distant flame]

one flushes the stream or something

endl does

I have literally no clue what that means or what it does

astrea told me

the genius himself

[cosmic violet]

choose what style fits you

[distant flame]

i use \n

its preference

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry spindle]

the point in comments?

"The first of them, known as line comment, discards everything from where the pair of slash signs (//) are found up to the end of that same line. The second one, known as block comment, discards everything between the /* characters and the first appearance of the */ characters, with the possibility of including multiple lines."

[distant flame]

so ur future self can understand ur moronic ass coding

[wintry spindle]

ah

[distant flame]

basically the next moring after u coded all night

ur gonna look at ur code

and think to urself

"i wrote this shit?"

[wintry spindle]

LMAO

[cosmic violet]

real

[distant flame]

a lifesaver

use them

[wintry spindle]

oh i see

[distant flame]

you'll thank yourself i promise hahahah

[wintry spindle]

tells on what it'll do

id assume?

[distant flame]

yeah so when you write more advanced programs, comments like that are useless and very self explanatory. but for functions or large chunks of code, comments are a lifesaver

prints hello world, your hangover-in-morning self can understand that. but like I said for functions and stuff its the same

[wintry spindle]

the fact i was supposed to be watching the new transformers w a girl tn

lol

[distant flame]

bros on that unethical coding grind

[wintry spindle]

she canceled

[distant flame]

L woman

visual studios wont cancel on you

[wintry spindle]

real!

nah he moms in hospital

she choked

[cosmic violet]

visual studio enjoyers 💪

[wintry spindle]

on dinner

[distant flame]

oh 💀

mb chief

[wintry spindle]

yeah lol

[distant flame]

😂

[wintry spindle]

she comes tomorrow

she also cums tomorrow

😉

[distant flame]

real

[cosmic violet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-think-the-rock-meme-gif-24810091

nvm

[distant flame]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-eyebrow-raise-gif-23681905

[cosmic violet]

wrong gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071640392027607113/1131975334510735430/1164ABB2-F261-43E7-B6F5-8FF6CDB6DDE7.gif

[distant flame]

cat

[wintry spindle]

do i have to right

write*

[distant flame]

[cosmic violet]

dingus

[wintry spindle]

using namespace std;

or can i write

[cosmic violet]

its optional

[distant flame]

bad habit for large code

[wintry spindle]

namespace std;

[distant flame]

makes life easier for small code

no

[wintry spindle]

i think its useless?

[cosmic violet]

using namespace std;

[distant flame]

using namespace

[wintry spindle]

okay okay

[distant flame]

yeah

[wintry spindle]

okay cool cool

[wintry spindle]

good to know

[distant flame]

i dont use it at all

personal preference if you want to or not

keep in mind its going to use standard namespace until told otherwise

[cosmic violet]

i think its because sometimes the compiler will get confused with other standard libraries, but not sure

[distant flame]

so it can mess u up if ur a bit tired or something and ur looking for whats causing ur code to not work

[distant flame]

yeah idk tho xd

im just told its bad habit

by basically everyone

so

do with that information as you wish

[cosmic violet]

pro coder

[distant flame]

precisely

[wintry spindle]

ok nice

[distant flame]

have you worked with cin yet

[wintry spindle]

no sir

the most ive coded

was roblox luas

which were pastes.

smh

[distant flame]

eh its very simple, cout outputs something, cin takes in input.

so for example

[wintry spindle]

ok ok

[distant flame]

int bankdetails;

cin << "enter your bank details \n";
cin >> bankdetails;

i think? i dont fucking know man i havent touched this language in months

lonewolf im prob doing somethign wrong arent i

[cosmic violet]

yup thats correct

you did it correct

[distant flame]

oh shit lets goooooooooo

im relearning c++

[cosmic violet]

cin should be cout

the first one

[distant flame]

u sure?

[cosmic violet]

yeah

[wintry spindle]

good correct?

[distant flame]

use an enter after a note i beg 💀

[wintry spindle]

hm?

oh space

sure

[distant flame]

note

note

note

note

etc

[cosmic violet]

<< is only used for output
while

is only used for input
it cant be used both

[distant flame]

yeah u rite lonewolf

im tripping man

[distant flame]

why did i use cin twice

[distant flame]

yes

also the open and closing brace indicates the opening and closing of a function

not just main function

any function

[wintry spindle]

int bankdetails;

cout << "enter your bank details \n";
cin >> bankdetails;

correct?

[distant flame]

also comments wont become useless but commenting small stuff like "this outputs horseshit" becomes useless, rather you start commenting on a function like "this function takes an input and multiplies it" something like that

[cosmic violet]

yup

[distant flame]

yeah

[distant flame]

comments are always good, but commenting on obvious stuff isnt necessary

[distant flame]

yes

[wintry spindle]

okay okay

[distant flame]

if u want me to nitpick it its useful, not usefull but who cares

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[distant flame]

exactly

[wintry spindle]

ok im tired asfk

ima install this

and work more on it tomorrow

[distant flame]

fs fs

[wintry spindle]

i need to look into compilers aswell because i dont have one

[distant flame]

visual studios

has one

built in

no need to worry about that

[wintry spindle]

oh okay

and im assuming working an imgui, keys and converting to .exe applications are months away from where im at?

[cosmic violet]

yes

[distant flame]

not months

[distant flame]

huh

[cosmic violet]

imgui is not a exe

[distant flame]

exe is just compiling, youve already done that

imgui is gonna take months yes

i read over that

yes ur not gonna be workign with imgui soon

idk what u mean by "keys"

[cosmic violet]

virtual keys

[distant flame]

like a keyboard keys?

[cosmic violet]

yes

[distant flame]

not very complicated

[cosmic violet]

its just a user input i guess

[distant flame]

and yeah an exe is just a compiled version of your program, so what youve been doing online, basically @wintry spindle

[distant flame]

yeah

drawing an esp and stuff is far away, but not out of reach if u just keep practicing

[cosmic violet]

i think there is aguy doing that stuff

i forgot his youtube channel

[distant flame]

cazz

prob

chad ngl

[cosmic violet]

yup

thats him

[distant flame]

im gonna close this help case, my dms are open (obv) and I think lonewolf would gladly help you as well

anything to add before i close?

[cosmic violet]

im not really a good expert at this but yeah 👍

[wintry spindle]

cheat keys

for hwid locking

[distant flame]

yes ur not gonna be doing that anytime soon

[wintry spindle]

yeah

[distant flame]

Im going to bed my guy lmk tomorrow if u have any questions

[wintry spindle]

alr

[last coral]

ye this is how i woulda done a cin cout example:

    char type;

    std::cout << "are you gay? [y/n]" << std::endl;
        std::cin >> type;

        if (type == 'y') {
            std::cout << "Faggot";
        }
        else if (type == 'n') {
            std::cout << "Good";
        }
        

of course this should never be how you make keys as you were saying you wanted to earlier, but its a good starter option thats pretty useful, and what do you mean converting to exe applications? you mean building the project?

[wintry spindle]

yeah i looked more into it ig im just a retard

its just compiling my project 😭

[swift seal]

I might be a bit late on the ball haha but I just saw this. I’ve read up a little bit and to summarize from my personal experience I would say;

IDE

As for IDE, I find Visual Studio the easiest to use. Visual Studio comes with a compiler called MSVC, which supports the grand majority of compiler specific features that people in this scene use. Visual Studio is good in the way that it brings a lot of tools like template projects and a decent context menu to ease the tedious compilation process, allowing you to pretty much not have to worry about how the compiler works and how to properly utilize all of its options until later down the road in your learning journey. There are other IDEs, compilers and systems too, like Visual Studio Code, gcc and clang, but I do not personally recommend that you start out with any of the aforementioned since they are quite a bump in complexity on the baseline compared to Visual Studio.

Recommendations

When I personally started out I watched the first approximately two hours of a 10 hour full course guide for C++. It might not work for everyone but it was enough for me. It is good if you really do not know where to start out.

Another tip I want to give you is to rewrite old code sometimes. It can be boring, sure, but it is really good to rewrite your libraries from scratch every once in a while because there is always things you can improve and you will realize what when you are rewriting it. It also gives you the opportunity to try and follow different coding styles and conventions to find out what you like. I have personally written my libraries in about six different conventions and styles.

My last but definitely not least tip is to really utilize stack overflow and Microsoft Learn. The latter especially when you are working with the Windows API. Stack overflow is amazing in the way that about 90% of your questions have already been answered, and the extra 10% you can ask and usually get a good answer within a day. When it comes to Microsoft Learn, it has nearly all CRT and all Windows API functions well documented and it also has a bunch of different guides that are great aswell.

I hope this helps and feel free to reach out to me here or privately if you need any assistance!

Oh and don’t be shy to ping me either, it’s not like I have much else to do haha.

[wintry spindle]

@swift seal say on white noise if i wanted esp, what values would i have to mess with?

just a basic shitty box esp

and what scanner should i use to find the values

[swift seal]

That is not code related at all really. That’s reverse engineering.

[last coral]

dawg

[wintry spindle]

ohhh okay

[last coral]

work your way up to that @wintry spindle start off smaller

[swift seal]

^^

[last coral]

like

find ammo

find gadget counts

[swift seal]

You need to get a grasp of what you are doing in the first place before you move onto stuff like that.

[last coral]

^

[swift seal]

Yeah that’s good.

Precisely.

You are sort of underestimating the work you have to put into stuff that is ”simple”.

Conceptually simple things are very often way more difficult to practically do.

[white garden]

shouldnt be saying this as cheating discussion isnt allowed, but youd want to mess with your local player, all the enemys local players, as well as some other small things

[wintry spindle]

i know

[white garden]

tbf, if your trying to make an esp for a game without an AC that shouldnt take you TOO long

[wintry spindle]

i got it figured out

[white garden]

but like everyone else said start with the basics first obv

learn the winapi

learn a bit of reversing

then move onto something like assualt cube