#Nebula | A Minimal Theme for Zen
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tysm
ill make a preference for anyone who wants to disable these animations
yep that'd be nice
@strong cedar could u also consider making a preference that disables the animation when entering a split view? unless there's already a way to do that
sure
let me see
even when tab switch animation is disabled whenever u go into a split view it does a fade
tyy
oh yeah i can just merge it with that
i forgot to do that mbmb
that'd be nice, no worries
oh and maybe something that disables the styling changes to ctrl tab panel? cos rn im just commenting out most of the css for that
well i also do hate the ctrl tab panel styling
do you have any suggestions of how it should be
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idc abt it mch cuz i dont use it so i was avoiding it
tbh not really i like how it looks by default
but u might want to do smth different so it matches the rest of the theme? idk
i did try adding backdrop blur to it but ig firefox does not allow it
ohh yea
how do u get the main menu icon up here in single toolbar mode cos u cant move it in customise toolbar
isint it here by default
try making the width of sidebar a bit more and see if it gets added up there
nope i always used multiple toolbars before so i guess it never moved
ahh ok
nope i extended it to full width even and it didnt
hmm
odd
idk abt how it is on macos
sometimes a new profile does fix this
once my extension button got removed from top
ohh
so i had to make a new profile and it got added back
i'll try making a new profile to see if its there then
its not there even in new profile
hmm idk i dont mind too much tbh
cos i barely use it
Uh, btw I have a problem with marginless compact mode. The top part is still there when I activate it, have you fixed it yet? @strong cedar
oh wait i have that as well ๐
let me see
looks like new zen update broke it
nice let me fix it
oof
Great!
well it does work properly on multi toolbar but single one looks broken

Awesome! Thx
nice JADP back
Will be gone soon as well. ๐ฅ
Set zen.view.mac.show-three-dot-menu to true.
ohh thank you
@strong cedar in light mode the zen logo for the menu is still white, it only looks fine in dark mode
yeah the light-dark is kinda broken in some cases after the update where zen changed the color picker
btw
ahh yea
i got the ctrl tab panel to have blur
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Whyyyy
well
i made a new js module
so
means
more waiting to get approved
apparently you can just use v3.2
just delete nebula from sine and install again
it will say v3.1.1 but its v3.2

ctrltab panel
i styled it from the ground up now
sure
ooo this is lovely
way better and smoother than the previous one
frfr
now just waiting โ
haha yea hopefully doesnt take too long
if it will, i will prob get a new thing to mess with and will again delay it lmao

@strong cedar is the theme now fully sine dependent?
On nix getting sine setted up is a bit hiccup.
and without sine if i am trying the theme then i have side bar being transparent.
i mean its not dependent fully
you can still setup fx autoconfig yourself
and add the js file
what issue are you having
yeah ik why
because the JS is not working
can you show how your chrome folder looks like
.
โโโ JS
โ โโโ utils
โ โ โโโ uc_api.js
โ โ โโโ manager.js
โ โ โโโ utils.js
โ โ โโโ XULManager.js
โ โโโ styles
โ โ โโโ settings.js
โ โ โโโ main.js
โ โโโ services
โ โ โโโ updates.js
โ โโโ plugins
โ โ โโโ cmdPalette.js
โ โโโ assets
โ โ โโโ imports
โ โ โ โโโ motion.sys.mjs
โ โ โ โโโ marked.js
โ โ โโโ images
โ โ โโโ saturn.svg
โ โ โโโ refresh.svg
โ โ โโโ markdown.svg
โ โ โโโ update.svg
โ โ โโโ expand.svg
โ โ โโโ settings.svg
โ โ โโโ github.svg
โ โ โโโ home.svg
โ โ โโโ update-disabled.svg
โ โโโ actors
โ โ โโโ MarketplaceParent.sys.mjs
โ โ โโโ MarketplaceChild.sys.mjs
โ โโโ Nebula.uc.js
โ โโโ sine.uc.mjs
โ โโโ prefs.js
โ โโโ injectAPI.js
โโโ Nebula
โ โโโ modules
โ โ โโโ Workspace-buttons.css
โ โ โโโ URLbar.css
โ โ โโโ Topbar-buttons.css
โ โ โโโ Toolbar.css
โ โ โโโ Tabstyles.css
โ โ โโโ Tabfolders.css
โ โ โโโ Sound-icon.css
โ โ โโโ Sidebar.css
โ โ โโโ Pinned-extensions.css
โ โ โโโ Miniplayer.css
โ โ โโโ General-UI.css
โ โ โโโ Essentials.css
โ โ โโโ BetterPiP.css
โ โ โโโ Animations(tabs).css
โ โโโ content
โ โ โโโ Transparent-settings.css
โ โ โโโ Better-pdf.css
โ โโโ Nebula.css
โ โโโ Nebula-content.css
โ โโโ Nebula-config.css
โโโ zen-themes
โ โโโ fd24f832-a2e6-4ce9-8b19-7aa888eb7f8e
โ โโโ readme.md
โ โโโ chrome.css
โโโ utils
โ โโโ utils.sys.mjs
โ โโโ uc_api.sys.mjs
โ โโโ module_loader.mjs
โ โโโ fs.sys.mjs
โ โโโ chrome.manifest
โ โโโ boot.sys.mjs
โโโ userContent.css
โโโ userChrome.css
โโโ theme.json
โโโ preferences.json
โโโ zen-themes.css
are you sure your fx-autoconfig works?
if it does then try opening console, there should be these logs at start
i guess it is not working, though any way to check that for sure.
coz the perfsFile is needed to be present where the browser is installed and nix store path is immutable.
hmm
any way to fix the sidebar sidebar without fx-autoconfig?
?
the way i do know is using the old heavy css file for sidebar.css which made the backgrounds using css only without js
yeah, for firefox it works (specifically on NixOs)
on Mac not working.
ohh, share the file and tell where to place.
wait so are you having issues on nix or macos
I am using nix on macos, so setting up my browser using nix instead of normal brew install.
with brew installation everything is working fine.
oh i see
hmm ig nix wont work with fxautoconfig unless mr sine knows a way
till then you can technically replace a few lines in sidebar.css inside modules folder of nebula
okay share which one's?
go to sidebar.css file in the modules folder of nebula
and edit line 50 to 183 with this code
there might also be some issues with other stuff like urlbar and context menus tho
am i tripping or was url bar text centered before
it was
but
due to the weird way zen centeres it, its not always centered depending on the buttons which show on urlbar
ohh fair enough
so i had to make it how it was originally as people kept creating issues on github that their text is not properly centered
yea this is better then
yea
Okay now it works. Thanks @strong cedar
if get this clean fixed on nix will drop the steps so readme can have instructions.
suree
im not sure myself on how to make fx autoconfig work on nix installations but yeah if you find a way lmk ill add it to readme
since nebula does require it to work properly in many cases
It has to be done while zen is getting build by nix.
But nix has not yet made zen available officially as it is in beta.
hm
๐ข Announcement
Many people are seeing weird artifacts, dark rectangles, and stuff on their screen when floating things like URLbar, toasts, etc. are opened, this is being caused by an outdated vers...
v3.2 is out for Zen 1.15.3b
Thank you ๐๐
if you notice any bugs then like always lmk
Is it out on sine too already?
Yo may I ask what is this ctrltab dualbackground thing? Because when I pres ctrl+tab its only switching between tabs? Lol
hold ctrl tab
its basically this
Wtf how lol. Its only for switching tabs for me
ig
nooo (right click menu)
it fixed after restarting browser
prob because js was not loading when nebula got updated
maybe
who doesn't like a nice acrylic slab?
animate and make everything transparent
btw i made a pr to theme store
someone on reddit messaged me if i was still going to release the workspace style as a seperate mod on zen mods
oh, prob will never be merged.
/j
yeah ik 
Bruh is finally checking his inbox now! ๐ฟ
ik. progress on sine will still not be for a little while, but ill at least respond and be online.
i just don't wanna be jadp. /j
yeah please be active since nebula updates are now dependent on sine 
which
@coarse sail whenever you get time can you merge the pr i was testing workflow
thanks
np. i noticed my notifications were flooded with test prs lol
just got to test out v3.2 for the first time
looks really good, but can you maybe add it so that pinned folders background is also removed when the pref with disabling pinned tabs backgrounds is enabled?
yeah im still seeing how coding workflows works
they are hell i had so many issues but now atleast one workflow working properly
sure
i am still waiting for folders to be usable without being pinned
like how previous tab groups were
yea
especially when they're vibe coded. 
Exactly the problem lmao, chatgpt doesn't know shit how to make working ymls
I love this, just read through it. Animations make me mad unless they are for small things (like the downloads animation โฅ๏ธ) so this was wonderful to see
I remember when I made a workflow to automate the Sine updating process, and I triple-asked ai to make sure it was right, made a big announcement on discord about the launch, then it failed that night.
Anyone know why my workspace indicator section so big? Didn't use to bee that chunky...
Fr that's why I never make announcements before I get it working 50 times
Especially when you have a larger following.
Btw, Nebula hit 1k yet?
Uh ... How
It at 1042
Since a while now
No idea. Its like an iPhone notch now
Did you change any font settings you have or smth
Nah, have default. U have the code for SF Pro btw?
Yeah
Gimme, gimme, gimme. Put it under .root in userChrome btw?
I can send tmrw morning since I'm not on pc right now
But you just need to do :root {
font-family: "SF Pro" !important; }
Should work if u have it installed
multiple instances where the context menu doesn't properly load all the options. Disabling the new context menu animations seems to fix it
Raycast dropped? D:
Windows release
Still waiting for an invitation . . .
Check DM.
yea let me see what can be done
#browser {
font-family: "SF Pro" !important;
}
wait this may be happening because of the icons on context menu mod
as i have no problem seeing these without icons mod
It happens without mod too, disabling new animations in Nebula fixed it
can you show a screenshot
i can see all of them so thats why a bit confused
windows?
Yes
And this happens only once per each tab, clicking again will give the full list
@strong cedar hello. Can you add disable menubar icon config? And i think tab loading animation better than no grayscale on no blur. Can u add new option?
After every update, I update these two settings in the code, but I'm tired of doing it manually ๐
oh
will see about adding a disable menubar icon config but what tab animation are you talking about
this right? i use this too
No grayscale and no blur = no animation, no?
wait im slightly confused, are you asking for two new options for tab loading animation?
The tab shrinks slightly when loading in grayscale mode. And I like this animation. But it stays gray until the site loads. This is something I don't want.
yes right
if it won't bother you
so you want a new style where the tab only shrinks with no other effect right?
yeah i can add that
you know what i can make that one be the default
and make others be options
This would fit well with the Nebula aesthetic imo
yeah thats why
just a scale down effect is enough
good luck
Is there a way to change radius of this corners? ๐ค
At all, not in Nebula specifically*
this is a thing which happens when you open sine popups
if you close that your border radius will get back to normal (8px)
Ah, mb, just used this screenshot to see the corners better
I wanted to say about these corners in general, not specifically with Sine
Thought about making them match radius as the compact sidebar (11 px)
yeah you can
i tried in very early versions of nebula
but they always had bugs for me
Oh, i see
can u add option for remove border lines
i hate those border lines
i just cant find a way to remove them ๐ญ
lol
Location doxxed. 
Now I'll come to Gunesli, raid every house until I find you, then eat all the food you got. ๐
any way to maybe introduce a vertical line dropping adjacent to the tabs inside the folder
yeah, do you mean something like how i have when tabs are in split view
no. something like this
collapse when the folder is collapsed
why do i not have this
when split tabs are not active
it shows this
instead of box
yea got it. the folder one should have the same colour as that of the folder though plus it should be bold
yes
always
also, it would be a great idea to have an option in nebula sine settings to disable the zen logo at the top left corner
yeah someone just asked for that a couple hours ago
will add for sure
Idk why users ask for it. Had to create one when a user asked for it.
because the zen icon on top does look weird asf
it looks a little too big
a bit too dense
yea it was reported and will be fixed next update for sure
Bro started criticizing something he himself created...

i took that from lacuna 
where is your extensions menu
it got yeeted out someday idk where it went
lol
Somewhere in toolbar customization menu, where it will never be found xD
Was too lazy to do that, deleted arc, installed nebula back, all good now
or just watch the yt videos
yes
ty
without sine it gets way difficult installing nebula
๐ฅ Sine et Nebula changent totalement lโexpรฉrience Zen Browser : une interface plus moderne, des animations รฉlรฉgantes, une navigation plus fluideโฆ Avec ces deux extensions, le navigateur devient vraiment unique, personnalisable et visuellement incroyable. Une vraie pรฉpite et mรชme, selon moi, le meilleur navigateur disponible sur Windo...
some random vid abt installation via sine
firefox right?
is it fr*nch
choose zen
its english dubbed too
beta
thanks a lot
if you are on 1.15.3b of zen
uh you can ignore it for now
doesnt look critical
ok restart zen browser and go to settings to see a tab of sine
thanks ๐
will say sine mods here
๐ฅ
there is no dropdown
in the bonjour extension
fixed
yeah ik its a b ug
right now
it can be fixed by disabling the context menu animations option in settings of nebula
its not exactly doing anything
no the last option in nebula's setting
no like generally
its not applying the wallpaper
i fixed the problem myself
you dont need to apply any wallpaper
its transparent
like this
thats a very old thing that doesnt need to be done now
how come yours is transparent what am i doing wrong
i did
is it required if i did sine
did this
yes
alright
still not exactly transparent
do you have some sort of battery saver
or
these are off
uh idk why yours isint transparent
what does your mica4everyone app look like
just like yours
this is transparent though
the browser isnt
can someone tell how to import themes?
@strong cedar
looks like you do nt have windows transparency enabled
Lol
fixed it all
how do i make the macos buttons bigger
this is so beautiful
send a screenshot
of what you mean
I wanna see
theyre really small
these are how they are on macos
Very cool yo
i took the size from zen's macos screenshot on their website
15px wide and 15px height
are you on 1080?
yeah
hmm
huh
they look a LOT bigger on yours
also do you know how to have them show at all times instead of when hovering over them?
zen.view.experimental-force-window-controls-left
in about config
how do i put them to the right
zen.view.experimental-force-window-controls-right?
they are already on right side
you want them to be completely left?
uh then just turn that config off
well how do i make it so that the exit, minimize icons are always shown? even when i dont hover towards them
no idea tbh
what did you do to put the search bar completely in the middle?
but you can just use multi toolbar
multi toolbar option
where do you find it
nvm
got it
thank you its so fire now
This was also my feeling at first, but then I crave for more...... And more.....
@coarse sail cant we make pref.json file to have a option to work like this json { "type": "checkbox", "property": [ "nebula-macos-style-buttons", "zen.view.experimental-force-window-controls-left" ], "label": "Adds macOS style window control buttons to Zen (tested on Windows 11)" }
cant it apply two properties at once
What's the difference between no mica4everyone and with it on w11? I mean it's transparent even without it
you probably stopped mica4everyone while keeping zen open
and not restarted zen
I have never installed it
oh do you have dwmblurglass
No, I only have TranslucentTB, but it's only task bar
mhm not sure
Not yet
alright ill just make a new section for two options
will give user 4 ways to use it
@strong cedar Bro idk why but animation for menu doesn't feel consistent.
Like for first half menu option shows one by one in quick animation, then the other half just appears with no animation in one go.
Ykwim.
how long do you want the animation to go for lmfao
it is a decreasing delay
Consistent till the end! You can make animation period quicker ig.
its 100ms
@strong cedar Do you agree, JADP? ๐ฅบ
its because the menu is too long
Yeah, so is there any solution?
just change the delay shit in js ig
Because animation should be consistent.
Oh, it's a JS thing?
prob
You can make a PR after you've fixed this. Cosmo isn't active, so I'll merge it.
Im active bro.
I meant the time I was having conversation with Nubulu dev lol!
Ah...

He didnt make a pr tho lol
You watching F1 rn?
No. I would be working on Sine with that time if i had it.
What keeping you so busy these days lol!
Like basement renovation shouldn't take this long... 
does look really weird LMAO
just tried making smth
Make it a lil thin.
still looks bad
btw
still trying out stuff but yeah
gives me old atg vibes
You guys can add color to folder? May I ask how?
Great, does that line and this border work with other?
which color
yeah
Great, now fix that animation and make a PR to add all this stuff!
Nvm
Talkin about something like this
fixing it is not so easy
its broken rn
and idt there is a easy way to make it work properly
its the same style as the screenshot i sent right
Oh alright nvm, it can be overlooked.
Why not add the stuffs you've made for folder rn?
not the animation itself, that is intentional i can change it anytime
i meant the code itself
i was just testing, dont like any of em
was seeing how much we can edit folders
yea more or less. i loved it tbh. can you share the userchrome pls
/* ------------------- Vertical Bar for Tab Group ------------------- */
.tab-group-container {
position: relative; /* required for pseudo-element */
}
.tab-group-container::after {
content: "";
position: absolute;
opacity: 0.5;
top: 2px;
left: 8px;
width: 4px;
bottom: 4px;
border-radius: 5px;
background: var(--zen-primary-color);
transition: background 0.3s ease, transform 0.2s ease;
}
saving this here too ```css
/* Full background for zen-folder elements */
zen-folder {
background-color: light-dark(rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.05), rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2));
border-radius: 16px;
padding: 2px 2px;
transition: background-color 0.3s ease;
}
prob not gonna add it to nebula but just did this cuz i was bored
@timid jasper
Why is everything in a box
i still dont know how i feel about the vertical line
ignore all that 
without pinned tabs background
@strong cedar needed a little bit of help with something. is there any way to add a background to folders in default zen. it currently looks like this
i want it to look like this but with the same attributes as the pinned tab above it. using super pins to add a background to pinned tabs which have a small glow when hovered upon them
you can you just need to change the background color to the one which default zen uses
this is the best i could do, i did everything required but it is completely black in dark mode and very dark in light mode
and i am using a background from local files too
thats how zen handles light-dark
if a color is bright, it makes some elements have the light value too even when you have set zen to dark mode
ok but where is the transparency and the BG and stuffs ๐
you need to enable windows 11 transparency effects, enable mica4everyone, remove any battery saver, enable transparent websites config in zen, and disable this
The essential background looks much darker. I think background of the minibar is much softer and sweeter.
changing blur intensity in the bonjour page is different from the other pages right?
let me see why, pretty sure they are supposed to be same
yeah
no i was just asking
oh then how did everyone change their blur intensity, yes the bonjour settings are doing nothing
i didnt
i switched over to dwmblurglass which applies blur to many system apps and zen too which has adjustable blur
ok will look it up, will ask for help if needed. thanks
ok tried but could not make it work heh
can you screenshot your settings pls
can you please share a code snippet maybe? thanks
i managed to do it but its overflowing
can u send the code of what you did
/* Default group background */
.tab-group-label-container::before {
background-color: var(--tab-hover-background-color) !important;
border-radius: 8px !important;
transition: background-color: 0.2s ease !important;
}
.tab-group-label-container:hover::before {
background-color: var(--tab-selected-bgcolor) !important;
border-radius: 8px !important;
}```
thank you very much. this works great
you cant change the folder colours can you?
you can change them by changing zen colors
you forgot to put "!important;" at the end of this line, so its not working on 3.2 and 3.3
i'm a total idiot when it comes to css and modding my browser, but is there a way to get the url text re-centered? i wasn't having any alignment bugs beforehand and i find it a lot more natural. I tried creating userChrome.css inside my browser folder and adding the code here: #css-mods message but that didn't help at all
i can't see how it would make a difference, but i am using the bin package of zen-browser from the AUR on the latest version because i wasn't able to get sine working with the normal package. about:support tells me that my chrome folder is at /opt/zen-browser-bin/browser/chrome
ah i see
can you give me the line where it is located
i made that long time ago so idk where it even is
yes, right now i have not removed the code in nebula i have just commented it out, earlier i was planning to make a config for it but i am sometimes hesitant to add very specific configs to nebula, but you can go to urlbar.css and remove the /* and */ from the line 36 to 41
go to about:config and enable devtools.chrome.enabled and then press ctrl shift alt i and go to style editor to live edit it
i'll try this when i'm back at my work PC tomorrow, thanks!
What does Transparent-settings.css do? Is it safe to remove?
seems like it cause problem to table element without class/style
are on v3.2
this issue got fixed in v3.2 pretty sure
yes, i'm on 3.2
can you go to transparent-settings.css and send a screenshot of how the code for table looks like
this part right?
yeah looks like that file is not updated?!!
wait
looks like
somehow i forgot to update it on github
my code says this but github has different lmfao
mbmb
thank you
these options are not visible
known bug, fixed in v3.3 beta1
Thank you so much
URLBar.css - background: light-dark (Ln 76)
Heeeey, could you share your nix config pls?
expected to change in future.
@strong cedar Oi.
@strong cedar how can i remove these shadows ? i have remove tab shadows on already
hii
bro what they again stopped working?! i literally fixed it ๐ญ
enable this
the tab shadows config is different, i guess i need to change the name of it for better understanding
even i got confused
Did you make any changes to the background and vertical line you made for folders?
not really
idk what other changes to make
they break after 3+ subfolders due to complex nature of folder nesting
Oo
like ofc still usable but just some weirdness
yo equinox, are you using arcline? is the folder placement on collapsed sidebar off for you too?
looks like a layout issue
ferro prob adjusted buttons in a certain way before zen added folders
yeah.
Time to switch back to nubulu 
Do you think Sine will overtake? @coarse sail
surely yes

i pray for this every night
but i don't think it will happen until after v2.3 releases.
Thing is why are your 1k users not using Sine?

sine has over 1k downloads. some ppl just don't star it. ๐ญ
because nebula was not used with sine for a long time
was very late when people actually started considering using sine and when nebula became primary sine supported then you see the graph of both sine and nebula being same
also this is wild
well idk if i asked this already or not but are there plans to support editing css variables like the ones contained in nebula-config.css via pref.json or i can make my own little js which changes vars depending on input in pref.json
still dosent work
yep
ill just wait for the update xd
sure
lol kinda works but also kinda dosent
ye idk
that already exists with preferences.json if you set the type to a string.
or you can set the type to a dropdown and use a Sine-specific feature known as processAs
yeah i am down to use a sine specific feature, i just want to give users the ability to change these via pref easily
yeah, type: string should be enough.
nicee
only thing is it has to be stored in a pref, so just come up with one for that and set the default to whatever you want the default in Nebula to be.
sick
Omg yes plsss
was planning to add it since a long time but finally now understood how to do so
Would it be also included in v3.3?
Btw, you said you figured to disable border on the sidebar, can it also be applied on the floating urlbar?
thats the plan
floating urlbar does not have border?
Great!
Huh........
do u have a screenshot...
Ahh greattt
it was not actually a border
but rather how urlbar background is in zen
making the bg to scale 1.003 fixes this
Awesome!
@strong cedar have you played around with borders? I made the pref to change the border radius web view but since Iโm adding a 2px border to it, the rounded corners are jagged 
do you have a screenshot
And from what I could find, itโs to do with the browserโs anti aliasing or something
same thing i was guessing lmao
lol
yeah well ruins the aesthetics tho 
but idk how it was so smooth for null back then
does linux handle this in a different way
yeahh
hmm
let me see if it can be made better
@strong cedar If you still use Arc2.0, reinstall on Sine. Made the theme more optimized after file restructuring.
Also added bunch of stuff.
Seems like JADP went to sleep. 
Oh here he is.
i do have a test profile for sine mods but i dont use it lmao
You once said you were using it as main theme.
Nvm must be a joke.
when...
Yeah well here it is.
Your msgs are quite hard to seach ngl.
Still, try it. 
oh that was a joke 
btw
finally
i made vars editable through pref.json
works so nice omfg
Like what did you make work?
Cause I have been doing it for a while.
ik
i am trying to make it easier somehow
cuz i didnt knew how to do this i tried some times in the past
how do you do this in pref.json
i have a very weird trick but would like to know how you made vars work in pref.json
For ex., I take this CSS: --nebula-sidebar-width: var(--arc-compact-sidebar-size, 25em) !important
Now I set it in perf.json as in ss attached.
wait
why does the var of string say --arc-compact-sidebar-size and not arc-compact-sidebar-size
Eh idk, but it works. Didn't create an error till now lol.
wow
crazy
well then what about light-dark preferences
like how would you define --nebula-glass: blur(32px) saturate(140%)
or --nebula-color: light-dark(rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.25), rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35));
wait ig i figured it out a bit
let me try
What's the need to define that in pref.json? I mean it's just there in sidebar.css doing what's it supposed to do....
wdym
its the tab colors
in nebula-config.css
btw i tried css --nebula-glass: blur(var(--.nebula-glass-blur)) saturate(var(--.nebula-glass-saturation));
and they are mentioned as strings in config
but didnt work
uh
use defaultValue
default is deprecated.
dont add a dot at the beginning
also dots are turned into dashes
oh
so the first digit should be a letter
thats why it was not working
hah alr
first digit?
yeah, first character should be a letter.
alr
is deprecated or will be deprecated?
ok finally done setting up pref.json
deprecated means that something is not broken yet, but may break at any time and should not be used.
so yeah, its deprecated rn
only reason it existed in the first place was cause Zen would overwrite prefs and cause some weird conflicts, so default had to be used if you wanted your dropdown to have a number value or smth like that, but now that we're independent, its not needed anymore.
is it possible that sine or nebula is breaking folders?
both are yeah
i had to reinstall to fix it
@strong cedar no settings to remove folder bg?
there is
what is the issue
uh i dont really mess with folders by default
its only a background color thats it
@limpid lagoon can i modify your urlbar dynamic background css for nebula?
switching workplace animation is kind of choppy, any how I can fix that?
just nebula
not nebula*
why tf does it work for me
lol no idea
also, the light-dark function doesn't work in userContent?
not sure, i just know that nebula does define light dark for those
yeah, i though you were using js for it
ty, i never really made anything for that but was looking at neo zen repo and liked the way it was implimented
was able to condense down the code to just this much
@strong cedar Did you try Zen Command Palette mod?
yes i installed it the minute that reddit post was uploaded
Ooh! You're a lot more active than I expected!!!
Weren't you supposed to return to hibernation on Monday?
Well I'm not complaining about the extension of your activeness.
that was just a prediction
Hmm, what's the next prediction? I hope it's something like next year. 
would prob hibernate after v3.3
Before hibernating, give write and commit access of Nubulu to cosmo. Who knows when you will be returning! 
why
what is he even gonna commit in nebula lmao
Well, while you hibernate, Zen Updates might break Nubulu.
Cosmo got a great knowledge of CSS ans JS.
I'm sure he'll actually maintain it very well.
Add a pref for vivaldi like URL Bar look in Multiple Toolbar mode to Zen in next update.
got this right now
how does vivaldi's urlbar look like
never used it
Also you can introduce Essentials like Favicon glow to Pinned Tabs.
yo, can I install my theme locally through sine? without submitting?
yes
just paste the github repo link
i tried but it says null for some reason
uh
yes ig
needs lot of css editing to do so tho ๐ญ
hmm nty
not a fan of long thin urlbars
possible yes but idk
doesnt fit
zen's urlbar already pretty great
I've got JS and CSS. You can work on it.
no thats fine
but due to my already glow and shadows
a lot of em
those need to be disabled
for this specific feature if someone wants to enable it
ukuk
You can add a pref for every animations and glow stuff.
Just like NeoZen did.
What else, I can't think anything else new for v3.3...
same lolol

Very well then, instead of adding anything more new - just add pref for everything possible.
add video background 
๐ are the files in your repo properly arranged
thats my biggest fear
i avoid it as much as i can
but i already added so many pref in this new update, more than i ever have
Add pseudo bg for every popup!
@strong cedar
frr
Why? @drifting mica doesn't fear it seems. He got so many prefs! 
he doesnt
i do
Bro change wallpaper rn. Those edges are flashbanging me. 
new preferences.json
looks alright to me atleast...
Looks organized! 
it was pretty messy in v3.2 so i organized it as much as i could
yeah
idek what else to look at 
@drifting mica Before releasing v1, make pref.json look organized like this. 
i hate how default preferences.json rendering looks like (not a sine issue its just renders poorly) so i tried making it neat to be more user friendly
Cosmo has to add search menu.
nah
search menu is not needed
better ui is needed
atleast so users dont feel overwhelmed by the weirdness in the json
Yeah that included, but search menu will help searching for a particular pref instead of looking for it if it's as big as that of arcline.
Why does mine looks so different
more context pls
It looks really bright to me
Can you change this easily I'm new to this
ok so
you can go to your chrome folder of zen and go to sine-mods folder / Nebula / Nebula and edit the nebula-config.css to change just the color of --nebula-ui-tint
Alr thanks
or you can just wait slightly for v3.3 to give you options to change these directly in nebula's settings
Ok thanks
#urlbar .urlbar-input,
.urlbar-input-container {
text-align: center !important;
position: relative;
}```
Okay, I read the install instriuctions, and I am still confused, I have no idea how to install Sine, I am on Nobara Linux, the install file has no defined format
it is saying it needs to be run as root, so I did, still the same message
@coarse sail
A question: what is your YouTube channel where you teach how to install the theme in Zen Browser?
i dont really have any youtube videos myself about it but few youtubers have made
owww thanks
the other ones are outdated now
i mean
it can still work
just that to make js work, you need fx-autoconfig which sine makes really easy to add for most people
please, I am losing my mind trying to install Sine
chillax
not sure where mr sine is but he can def help with this
yeah, that is why I am so confused
what message does it provide?
I provided the whole output above
Go to Windows Settings > Personalization > Taskbar and select Center in the drop-down for Taskbar positioning.
wowww
also i was looking at zen's sourcecode and finally i managed to fully fix my gradient slider js module
after such a long time of trying out random fixes which worked but were hacky
it works sooo smoothly ๐ซ
What is this?
need help: how can i turn off the find bar styling off?
it was just zen's workspace code, i was messing with it
oh you are using browserbot
yes
go to sidebar.css and go to line 260 and delete all the code in findbar section
What is that thing which got 300 ๐ฅ
thank you so much :)
it works now
edit: this was the conflict...
zen-tabbox-wrapper::before {
position: absolute !important;
z-index: 0 !important;
content: "" !important;
background-color: light-dark(rgba(255, 255, 255, 1), rgba(40, 40, 40, 1)) !important;
opacity: 0;
width: 89%;
top: 29px !important;
right: 30px;
height: 43px !important;
bottom: auto !important;
border-radius: 13px;
visibility: visible !important;
transition: opacity 0.2s ease, width 0.5s ease !important;
}
yeah i get why, its a fake background to avoid blur not working on transparent websites
thank you again for the help :)
Nubulu
frrr lmao
just a constant rainbow gradient to everything
prob
yeee
Hell yeahhh
When 3.3 releases you can tweak the border radius in Nebula setting sin Sine ๐
3.3 Sine or 3.3 Zen??
3.3 Nebula
Hm okay
Beta is out on Nebula github now. I have them more rounded
Send link please!
https://github.com/JustAdumbPrsn/Zen-Nebula/tree/Dev
Paste into Sine
Thanks so much
Do I have to remove the Sine-installed Nebula theme before that?
or do I just paste in directly
So I don't need to remove the Sine-installed one?
no. Just paste the link above and it will replacve the older nebula
Looks BEAUTIFUL! Thanks so much
material 3 
I got the theme manually installed, but none of the advanced prefrences are populating, and I can't get better blur working
You need to get Sine.
yeah the preferences.json does not work for non sine installation
okay, so how do I find the install location of Zen, because I cannot find it
which os are you using
Nobara
yo mr sine finally you're back
i guess not

anyways, i wanted to ask if userContent has a diff behaviour when using through sine
yes.
userContent can access website styles and about pages, just like normal userContent.
userChrome can access chrome:// pages.
no like my issue is, when the theme is installed locally, the ligh-dark funciton works fine for the bg-color of about:blank i've implemented
its a little weird sometimes cause i gotta replicate the way it injects styling just like firefox does, so i've had some issues where it doesn't inject it properly, but i think most are fixed now.
but when the theme is installed through sine, it's stuck on dark mode for some reason
is your website styling set to dark?
hmmmm well guess not or I might be doing it a diff way
Yeah, that is the only package manager that Zen on Linux is distributed
no, there's .tar.xz and .AppImage.
uhh it should change to light mode when selected the color scheme changes
it does on local install
ok yeah got it
yeah it works with the website appearance
why tho
AppImages hate me and I hate them and I have never figured out how to manually build programs
cause i think i'm injecting userContent wrong.
i'll look into it
.tar.xz should work perfectly though.
oh
thanks!
uhh nvm it's me
it was working on local cuz i set the website appearance to automatic and so it changed through the color picker 
were you on a separate profile to test it on Sine vs local?
yeah i was testing it through sine on my main profile where I had set it to dark so it didn't work there and I thought it was some sine issue 
but now I gotta figure out to to make it change without changing the website appearance
can I use prefs for useContent?
yes
just make sure to use -moz-pref and not -moz-bool-pref
oh
why tho cuz i've been using it for some prefs

its not that important, but -moz-bool-pref is exclusive to zen and cheff has threatened to remove it since -moz-pref was added.
same goes for :root:has(#theme-{name}[{property}={value}]) cause -moz-pref does that too.
oh damn ๐
but i think the threat was a while ago.
also i made a pr to the theme store changing every mod to use -moz-pref instead, but i think it has merge conflicts now.
ok i'll change them ig
was gonna update some to string anyway
ah I better change them now
yes, but I dont know how to build from source



