Zen Zero

[dense reef]

someone please help im getting this half baked blur on compact sidebar i have nebula theme default settings

[dull rover]

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/discussions/62

unfortunately 😭

[vagrant marten]

u can fix by adding a psuedo background

[dull rover]

yes but that means we are getting only webpage transparency not with the wallpaper and such

[pastel fractal]

this NEEDS to be done on YT sidebar on watch page

[sullen flume]

read the nebula-config.css file in your nebula folder
it has a guide on how to enable nebula-compact-mode-sidebar-bg config which adds a background

[dull rover]

I will try... YT uses some sort of a dynamic variable so things could be difficult, let's see

[dense reef]

thanks for the clarification

[dense reef]

i tried it it gives another background layer below sidebar but its lags behind and looks less responsive

[eternal harness]

Hello, is there no way to achieve full transparency ? there is some blur applied

[dull rover]

you mean transparency w/o blur? Windows?

[eternal harness]

Yea

[dull rover]

IDK if micaforeveryone or dwglass blur allow that .. that will be the only hope ig

[pine storm]

Does this look good? I am on Windows with full transparency. ☺

[eternal harness]

I see, i tried it with micaforeveryone, i think the results is same as yours, thx anyway

[eternal harness]

Err yea, i wanted to be completely transparent, like u can see through to it

[pine storm]

For that, you need to switch to DWMGlassBlur.

It let's you customize blur radius.

Along with option for transparency like Acrylic, Mica, Blur, Mica Alt and Aero. @eternal harness

[eternal harness]

I will try it, i assume it doesnt affect the tab transparency? Only the affecting the sidebar

[pine storm]

tab transparency? It does everything.

https://github.com/Maplespe/DWMBlurGlass

[dull rover]

I do like the more higher amount of blur

a bit like mica but usable and transparent

[pine storm]

I have already made blur radius to highest possible unit (50). What else to do! lol

[quartz horizon]

Hi @dull rover, this setting keeps reactivating every time I launch Zen. Any idea how to prevent that?

[eternal harness]

Oo it works, not possible to make it work on certain application only?

[pine storm]

Nope, but on other applications it only affects title bar, so nothing much to worry about with this config.

[eternal harness]

alright thx, i like full transparency look, but i guess not that good for reading purpose

[pine storm]

This config is with consideration to improving readability. Like you can read what's written on File Explorer, right?

[eternal harness]

yes, i mean whats on the browser , since the whole tab is fully transparent too

like when i have discord at behind of the browser, text from both side will overlap lol

[pine storm]

For that, use this feature in Transparent Zen Mod and set it to rgba(25,25,25,0.2). The value in decimals affect transparency level. Increase in this value leads to decrease in transparency.

[eternal harness]

Oo not bad

thx

[dull rover]

idk why but I can not replicate... My settings does not get automatically changed.. using any mods mods 😁 Like sine? or any fx-autoconfig stuff?

[rose zinc]

What program do you use to have the file explorer like this?

I installed dwmblur but it only changes the appearance of the title bar.

[pine storm]

https://github.com/Maplespe/ExplorerBlurMica

[wraith lake]

@dull rover I was wondering what this blacklist mode does to a website?

[dull rover]

I haven't yet updated the documentation for this... It's basically like this in force theming section..

Blacklist (default) - theming enabled by default and you can skip websites

Whitelist - theming disabled by default, you have to manually set to theme specific websites

[pine storm]

@dull rover Transparent broke for this section on Bluesky.

[dull rover]

I think I kept it intentionally... because otherwise when the content scrolls behind that part, will become unreadable.... I thout I added rounded corners to that.. maybe I missed

[rose zinc]

Is there a way to hide the navbar and make it appear when the cursor hovers over it? The same thing happens on YouTube. Before, there was an option in my internet options to hide it.

[thick nebula]

@dull rover link?

[dull rover]

manu ppl didn't like it so I removed it for now so I can add it back later but off by default but never gotten time to do it... I might try later...a bit busy these days 🙂

[dull rover]

think it's this one
https://github.com/sameerasw/Wallpapers/blob/main/source/topo.png

[rose zinc]

Oh, okay, don't worry. I'll wait for that update. And thank you so much for your effort and dedication to this project.

[dull rover]

no brob ❤️

[quartz horizon]

No, I was messing with fx-autoconfig back then, but not anymore. I’m not sure why it’s getting reactivated now.

[dull rover]

weird... I got no clue

[dull rover]

Any major feature requests for the zen internet addon? I might pause development of it for a while... I mean, most features that were asked are added... but wanted to try some other mods if possible.. I will continue to add themes for requests when i'm chill tho :3

[dull rover]

huh... I expect some thigns to break then

[dull rover]

@chrome gull please follow the guide to ensure you have transparency

https://www.sameerasw.com/zen

Addon or the mod itself is not enough.. you need both

[dull rover]

sooooon

[dull rover]

UserChrome.css updated : https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/blob/main/userChrome.css

[sullen flume]

i need the css

thats the best thing i have seen in a while

[dull rover]

Should be in this section int he userChrome.css
SIDEBAR STYLING AND ANIMATIONS

but, I just re-factored it with copilot so unwanted stuff can be inside it ... you might need to pick only the changes related to the workspace indicator... the order: property was used to re-organize them around the ui so the playr is at the bottom and then also the workspace title moved to the bottom of the tab pane

[sullen flume]

tysmmm

[lethal musk]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[dull rover]

because 1.12.6b might have broken hiding the workspace naem again 😁

[sullen flume]

  display: none !important;
}
  
  #zen-tabs-wrapper {
    padding-top: 4px; /* Add missing padding */
  }```

works for 1.12.6b

[dull rover]

ahhh then all good.. for some reason my previous implemention broke with the update

[sullen flume]

mine too, yesterday i was searching for the new id and found this so i changed it in my code

[pine storm]

Can you add MacOS dock like animation on these workspace icons?

[short cargo]

yo, I got an issue, the Transparency Mod's addon for Youtube called : Addon : Viewstats isn't working for me. I believe it's supposed to let viewstat working, but my viewstat won't show up when I have the Transparency mod activated

Edit : the viewstat's addon only works when the "zen view comments" option is disabled

[dull rover]

like the icons alre always visible instead of dots? I think you can merge that part from another theme

[dull rover]

I never used it.. this was a contribution by someone, I will look into it soon...

Was havin some fun with Android 16 QPR , man it's awesome

[pure surge]

holy crap this is cool

[dull rover]

Android also got the Zen Zero vibe and added transparency 🤩 loving it so far!

[heavy monolith]

expressive

[dull rover]

indeed... m3 expressive ultra pro max ... man these names are unhinged

[heavy monolith]

plus is missing in the name lmao

[arctic pike]

how did u get android 16 already

@dull rover sorry if its a bit unrelated but do you know how to fix jagged edges of boxes on any website in windows 11?

[dull rover]

On beta.. instantly grabbed the factory image not after 10 secs 😁

[arctic pike]

ohh are you using pixel device?

[dull rover]

huh... screenshots? I don't use Zen on Windows but do use ff which might help

[dull rover]

Yeap... 6A 🙂

[arctic pike]

like see the edges

it actually happens on all browsers

but idk how to fix

[dull rover]

that looks to me fine... you on 1080p?

[arctic pike]

yeaa

look at the edges of the boxes

[dull rover]

I think it's because many websites use 1px borders which is a bad practice.... they look horrible on 1080p especially at aything above 13" displays....

[arctic pike]

ohh

so there's no way to fix this?

[dull rover]

Hard to say a specific fix tho... well, unless you manyally add css to every one of these website elements increasing the border thickness maybe...

I hate this on my Windows laptop which is for work... at home, i almost never use it for web previews and use a 1440p display and at work, i suffer looking at these... I used edge before and many of the edge ui looks bad too like this!

[arctic pike]

ohh

is there a simple css code to increase the border radius?

or do I have to inspect always

for some reasons the same website looks perfect on my phone lol

[dull rover]

doubt... because sometimes it could be a button, sometiems an input... like that... no way to see what already got borders so you have to apply to all

[arctic pike]

ohh

[dull rover]

ye.. that's dpi ... because phones are also 1080p but ina much more dense pixel grid at around 6" , it's very hard to pixel peep on them unlike on desktop above 13"

[arctic pike]

I see

also is there a way to trick a website that it's running on chromium on zen? some websites only work on chromium for google's obvious reasons

[dull rover]

very easy to identify the 1080p one vs 1440p

[dull rover]

I think so... something like user agent switcher extensions... maybe that could help but I doubt since it's an engine issue of ff

[scarlet cave]

i dont see my background

background

[heavy monolith]

wait what how

[pine storm]

@dull rover Also, if you get free time, can you try to make your CSS compatible with this addon?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/better-lyrics/

This addon has lyrics just like how Apple Music has it, which is how I like it the most!

[heavy monolith]

well it is

[dull rover]

is that your workspace theme gradient?

if so, reduce contrast

[dull rover]

I will try but in most cases, they inject iframes to display these content and iframes can not be themed... I will keep this in mind tho...

[pine storm]

Bruh how is it working for you?

Which DE?

[dull rover]

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/issues/1038

[pine storm]

It looks so good. With Zen Internet, it would look the best.

[heavy monolith]

hyprland :))

[heavy monolith]

well it works here with zen internet

[lethal musk]

this shit is beautiful

[scarlet cave]

i think so but i want it to show background instead of gradient

[dull rover]

reduce workspace theme contrast 🙂

[scarlet cave]

idk how to do that

[scarlet cave]

i somehow made it worse

[dull rover]

there's a custom color set

[pine storm]

@dull rover Why is this commented?

Can it be enabled?

[dull rover]

I don't use it but kept in the code for anyone who like it.. just uncomment and it should work 🙂

[pine storm]

@dull rover Ooh, it actually works exclusively with your theme. Well, just there is an option in YT to render comments bg opaque, can you do the same here?

Or if possible, just increase blur to max.

[vagrant marten]

@dull rover is it possible to resize this lyrics menu

this box

[dull rover]

I'll see.... I'ma head to bed now but will take a look as soon as I'm back up in the morning

[dull rover]

I can set a preset width... not make it resizable tho...

[pine storm]

It's CSS, so you can adjust it, isn't it?

[dull rover]

ye...

ok... back in 6hrs 🙂

[scarlet cave]

yeah i want the exact color that is that and cant exactly click it on the thing above it

[dull rover]

done, made the width auto

[dull rover]

you can add another couple of digits at the end of that color to be like #ffae0077 to make it semi-transparent

[pine storm]

How much you sleep bruh? I wake up exactly as per what you said for waking up 6 hrs later, yet you're here 1 hr earlier than me.

[dull rover]

Exactly 6 hrs... Except yesterday slept early and woke up early today... 😉

[pine storm]

Well see, alarm is for 8:25AM, but guy is up by 6! I live in India and I think Sri Lanka follows the same Time Zone. Thus, you only slept for 5 hours.

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[dull rover]

Nah I slept at 11:15 and woke up at 5:15 ... Sometiems it doesn't always go to the scedule 😁

[pine storm]

•

I also want the ability to sleep instantly the moment my head hits my pillow.

[dull rover]

cozy night with rain... already being on the bed helps a lot LOLdoesn't help when you forget to adjust the alarms tho

[pine storm]

@dull rover How to correct this?

[dull rover]

grab the latest userChrome.css and remove this part

or it should be aroudn line 240 in your current css... I t was at bottom before but re-factoring with chatgpt put it in the middle for some reason. I don't use teh compact sidebar so I made it invisible to fix the bug of the compact sidebar goign crazy when zen gets focus

[pine storm]

I've latest, so just have to remove this code.

[dull rover]

I just updated moving this part back to bottom 😁

[pulsar arch]

@dull rover Would love if theme this site, already in github tho

https://sxng.violets-purgatory.dev/searxng/

Same as https://priv.au/

[pine storm]

What's difference?

[pulsar arch]

Their uptime

priv.au showing me bad gateway

[pulsar arch]

Also fmhy says this stays 100% up

https://searx.neocities.org/instancescores

[pine storm]

ooh, well priv.au wasn't working for me as well, but I implemented Cloudfare DNS, and somehow it worked.

[dull rover]

ohhh that'll be easy... 🙂

[pine storm]

Use forced styling.

It worked for me.

[rose zinc]

Hi, is this a bug? When in theater mode on YouTube, there's a small space at the bottom of the player. Also, in the latest updates, these rounded edges only appeared in the bottom corners of the screen. I installed the Disable Rounded Corners theme, and it had no effect. I changed the value of zen.theme.content-element-separation to -5. It worked fine until version 1.12.7b.

[dull rover]

think the transparent zen mod's trackpad gestures are affecting this if enabled... I will try to find and fix it soon but if it gets fixed, will take a while to be published on mods tho since updates take a while to get approved

[pulsar arch]

Doesnt totally work like priv.au

Search something, there will be that border in the upper side

[raw bloom]

how did u make the player nd tabs so rounded

[dull rover]

don't think I did any custom css for that, I'm using in the compact density (force enabled from about:config)

[raw bloom]

which one??

[dull rover]

first one, and then in the toolbar edit mode, switch to the compact density

at the bottom

[raw bloom]

oh I think the rounding is cuz of macos

[dull rover]

I doubt... I might have modified the css for the player then for border-radius....

nah...

zen.theme.border-radius 10

Even this wasn't affecting

[raw bloom]

yeah think its affecting something else..

idk what tho

[dull rover]

o shit...

[deft delta]

@dull rover Hey, I was searching for a piece of css on here and I came across a screenshot of your Pixel where you managed to get rid of the google search bar from the homescreen. I assume you used root to get rid of it? Could you possibly tell me which module or app you used to remove it? I can't find one that works with the 16 beta.

[dull rover]

There's a quite new mod made by the creator of iconify & colorblendr named PixelLauncherEnhanced

You do need LSPosed for it but offers a lot of options!

https://github.com/Mahmud0808/PixelLauncherEnhanced

If you are rooted with KSUn like me, you will need zygisk-next which is needed for LSPosed (use the mod, og one is no longer supported )

[deft delta]

Thanks ❤️ I just need to figure out how to get LSPosed to work for me now, as it just crashes when I try to open it 😭 * never mind, I found LSPosed Irena that works *

[vast sage]

@dull rover Try this and send video record if you can!

[pine storm]

What does this do?

[dull rover]

for some reason, quite resource intensive but idk why

[vast sage]

It does do make something better than that, try to use it in seperate theme.

[dull rover]

ohhh no... what da hell did I tried to create 😁

[pine storm]

Better than funtouchOS tbh.

[dull rover]

well.. not that... also it's not Safari... might eb zen 😁

[pine storm]

Ik it's Zen. But what you're doing with Android 16 QPR beta is better than funtouchOS. 🙂

[dull rover]

Gonna name this theme "cursed zen" lol

IDk why I even attempting horizontal tabs.. jsut felt like it 😁

[pine storm]

Oh, the window is so transparent, I couldn't notice it as horizontal tab!
You can contribute it to Cheff!

[dull rover]

nahhh...it's highly experiemntal.. gonna try again with compact dual toolbars to see if that make seasier

[pine storm]

I mean, if you are trying to create it, Cheff will as well help you in it.

So it'll be worth it for those who don't use Zen because of no horizontal tabs.

[dull rover]

true.... it's not gonna be easy even if I attempt because of how things are layed out... gonna do as a fun time thingy...

[pine storm]

@dull rover Hey, what's the config for transparency on Mac?

[dull rover]

adjusting? search for material

[pine storm]

Want to increase blur here.

[dull rover]

blur.. idk... don't think adjustable.. but you can adjust transparency with it

[sullen flume]

someone made an issue asking for windows mica4everyone type blur in macos

and was asking if any 3rd party apps or smth could do that

[dull rover]

nah... there's only 3 options swiftUI offers.. and I think zen already has the most transparent one... which is this amount when I tried

[dull rover]

nope 😭

[sullen flume]

hmm

thats sad

[dull rover]

well... it works :3 kinda

[vast sage]

Horizonal tabs??

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[lethal musk]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-ayasan-gif-24417559

[pine storm]

Become an official contributor to Zen, rn.
Did you show this to cheff? The is very big progress!

[dull rover]

it's very much broken.. Just looks like working 😁

If this is getting natively implemented, it shouldn't be done with css... we need to change a lot of things in the browser for that... I wanna try that but I got no resources to debug a browser 🙂

I will keep doing experiments tho to see if I can get it close to being stable and usable... also I like the safari toolbar which is even ahrder to implement than two row toolbar

Finally got some free time today... I guess I'll do some website themes while I'm at it 🙂 or maybe some suerChrome.css stuff ... idk

[pine storm]

Do you know JS?
You can include some cool new features from Safari or anything as per your idea.

[dull rover]

I do... also need to fix my autoconfig thingy... well, it works not sine... if I get ti working, i guess I can try

[pine storm]

Sine doesn't work for you?

[dull rover]

the time I installed, installing any mods via it did not show up and only removed from the installable list.. and also broke itself after 3-restarts of the browser

[pine storm]

Oh, right. Those thing fixed with v1.1.6 update. 🙂

Ig give it another try.

[dull rover]

ohhh I'ma try now then 😄

[vast sage]

@dull rover Can you give me the width of your sidebar?

Idk how you will give me it but try to give me a css to force the width to your.

[vast sage]

@dull rover I liked your wallpaper, do you have another ones?

[dull rover]

It's not a preset.... I can adjust it...

[dull rover]

check here :
https://github.com/sameerasw/wallpapers

[vast sage]

I know but the width of your sidebar looks decent for me

[pine storm]

@dull rover Damn, I don't think it's possible to be able to solve all Issues here.

[vast sage]

Give me your wallpaper.

I wanna try it in my theme

[vast sage]

Shesh!!!!!

Looks fire!

@pine storm Wanna try out my theme?

[pine storm]

I've my exam tomorrow. Will check it out thoroughly at exactly this time 24 hrs later.
Also, if possible, correct the spacing between folder icon and folder title.

[vast sage]

Okay!

[dull rover]

164px

IDK if density and resolution matters but if so, I'm using a very compact density

[dull rover]

not doing all anyways 😁 I'm taking only 79 (or less) and the rest, hope for contributions...

It will be Tuesday again when I get back to this since I got a presentation to complete 🙂

[dull rover]

Thoughts?

[vagrant marten]

stop cooking folders coming man they gonna break

😭

[dull rover]

ye... same reaosn I'm holding in... I hope that finally implements some animations since currently I was not able to add expand/ collapse animations that well

Also I hate the damn css has next selector (+) but not previous selector (-) !!!!

The world could have been a much better place with it!

[slow egret]

@dull rover I am using the Transparent Zen extension. Is it possible to change the colors and font of websites (i was using dark reader before) while still keeping transparency?

[dull rover]

I'm not sure how it's implemented in the transparent zen addon... It might be as simple as selecting all text and flipping color but that could lead to many websites being broken tho so I wanted to avoid it in my addon...

I still using with darkreader even tho it may break overlays... I did work on google meets to add a dedicated dark theme on my own but that is not ideal for every website...

[slow egret]

thanks! does it still keep transparency when using with dark reader? or do i have to force styling?

[dull rover]

If the website doesn't have a built-in dark theme, the addon's theme has the code to make the website transparent with darkreader... if the website has a dark theme, I didn't include it...

in forced mode, it's always included for other websites... so It's a good idea to enable dark theme detection in darkreader and to keep in auto mode. Switch to the new design of darkreader to find these easily 🙂

[slow egret]

thanks so much!

[pine storm]

Is this there in latest userChrome.css?

[dull rover]

Nope... It's not polished.... It is in the tab groups discussion in my-internet repo

[vast sage]

Give us the css please.

FOR IT

[dull rover]

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/discussions/574#discussioncomment-13273339

[dull rover]

Good news, My presentation done and nailed it! 🙂

Bad news... i lost the streak so might as well take a lil break before getting back to stuff

[vagrant marten]

https://tenor.com/view/catwait-cat-wagging-tail-gif-15164511416751561383

[vast sage]

@dull rover Can you send ss for your theme?

I know, it's weird question bc I've seen something cool and you did not said anything to it and I think I will be wrong to it.

[tranquil stream]

You could add a commit with the date you missed the streak and fix it.

[dull rover]

Thing is that, mostly, screenshots don't cover much because I keep the minimal UI visible while browsing so there's harly a browser UI to be seen 😁

[dull rover]

Now that I think of it, I think I have local repos I pushed that day as well... might just publish them

[vast sage]

Damn, how i can get the same configuration you did?

[pine storm]

See his code.

[dull rover]

my userChrome and the mods basically... and some flags like the smaller ui density etc.

[runic bison]

Hello sameerasw. It look like music.youtube.com is missing popup transparent on your addon. adding this to my userContent make it work.
.style-scope ytmusic-menu-popup-renderer > * {add your css style}. Thanks you for your addon, it look great.

[dull rover]

there's a reason I kept any kind of overlays in the webpages not transparent.. it's a css limitation
https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/discussions/62

[runic bison]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-4203939461945640088

[pine storm]

@dull rover Hey, can you do a proper theming of this website?

https://gprivate.com/

[dull rover]

Done, that was a pain and a half... css was so b d

[pine storm]

Ooh, well I thought you might need some CSS challenge, so I gave one.

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[dull rover]

Progress 🙂

Completed like 40-50 today 🙂

[pine storm]

@dull rover Any solution to this, lol!

[dull rover]

Using darkreader?

[pine storm]

Yes, but it's disabled.

[pine storm]

Wait.

It's enabled.

[dull rover]

make sure it's off.. because this is how it looks for me

[pine storm]

Yeah, but then I get flashbanged 2 times.
Once by loading screen, then 2nd time by above.

[dull rover]

whelp, I tried making the splash screen transparent back then but it easily breaks because the logo is bunch of svgs hidden behind parts of white divs... I might be able to completely remove the logo and the bg but not the bg alone

friking hate gmail... not having proper theming

[pine storm]

Remove all logo. Who doesn't knows Gmail logo! 👀

[dull rover]

done!

[vast sage]

What are mods you're using it?

[vast sage]

Make import mods please

I mean export the mods

[dull rover]

ohhh forgot it was a feature

[vast sage]

Thanks!

[vast sage]

@pine storm How much the blur radius in DWMblurglass for you?

[pine storm]

50

[vast sage]

Okay!

[pine storm]

Can you check as well?

[dull rover]

huh... worked for me tho

Maybe some network related stuff

[dull rover]

wanna do something to make use of this empty area but got no idea

[pine storm]

You can add ToDo List here with JS. •

[dull rover]

I'm still not familiar how to add js by myself... taking ages to even try to do it

[pine storm]

Didn't Sine creator help you?

He helps everyone with it.

[dull rover]

I should ask for some support... and also need some free time ig... maybe will try next week because I got some holidays

[pulsar arch]

Bro contribute in Zen Haven

Anom cooking up Zen-notes

Peak stuff

[dull rover]

I gotta make the zen issues website ... might try this weekend... but hate that I'm away from home so no extra screen to work with

[pine storm]

@dull rover Hey, transparency broke for classroom.google.com.
If you can access this page, can you fix it in your free time? 🙂

[vast sage]

@dull rover I didn't get transparency in deepseek website using zen internet.

[vast sage]

But I made this userContent.css code:

/* Deepseek web transparency */

@-moz-document domain("deepseek.com") {
  /* Make base page transparent */
  html,
  body,
  #root, /* React root element */
  .app-main { /* Main content container */
    background: transparent !important;
  }

  /* Remove opaque backgrounds from content sections */
  .container,
  .bg-white,
  .bg-gray-50,
  .dark\:bg-\[\#232222\] {
    background-color: transparent !important;
  }

  /* Remove background from chat messages */
  .message-container {
    background: transparent !important;
  }

  /* Make input area transparent */
  .input-wrapper {
    background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1) !important;
    backdrop-filter: blur(10px);
  }

  /* Adjust borders for better visibility */
  .border-gray-200 {
    border-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1) !important;
  }
}```

[dull rover]

No way!!! they really updated the website.. didn't expect 😁

I will try later... if possible open an issue in github since I'm currently at work 🙂

[dull rover]

Don't think I made the transparency for it.. I can't remember but since it required an account, I think someone contributed and maybe the page now got updated... I'll take a look later if I got an account (I don't think)

[dull rover]

Looking at it, I'm not sure if it will work well since this part could potentially break overlays.. gotta test... thanks tho ❤️ And gotta test light/ dark themes

.container,
  .bg-white,
  .bg-gray-50,
  .dark\:bg-\[\#232222\] {
    background-color: transparent !important;
  }

[vast sage]

Damn, perplexity gave me your web as source lol.

[dull rover]

Yayyy.... finally the SEO works... but idk why one of my usernames are there ... anyways 😁

Firefox can look good too :3

[scarlet cave]

what did you ask

[dull rover]

ohhh time to send boss to the next ep 😁

Or we all go there LOL

[scarlet cave]

?

[pulsar arch]

lmao

[scarlet cave]

it kinda works on hyprland except that i sometimes cant read stuff because contrast

theres supposed to be text here but its hard to read

[vagrant marten]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-keith-lee-wwe-wtf-gif-18099546

[dull rover]

Unfortunately zen website does not have an auto dark theme... but there's a button which you gotta click to switch when you change dark/light themes

[scarlet cave]

maybe add it to the list of supported os

[dull rover]

It's just one light-dark(#fff, #000) away man... just add it and make magic 😁

[dull rover]

it's easier to contribute to the website I think.. I might look into it if I get time

[scarlet cave]

doesnt work on yt for some reason but it is transparent on the sidebar

[dull rover]

maybe any other addon is affecting... like those enhanced youtube addon, or maybe even darkreader, keep darkreader to skip youtube and see... also might need a reload once changes were done

[scarlet cave]

yeah i have enhanced yt to change accent color

[dull rover]

ye, that will break transparency

[scarlet cave]

can you add support?

[dull rover]

might not be possible since it could be always overriding the addon but I will try... I had to remove the "enhanced youtube" addon sicne it was not fixable with it and also kept messing up auto dark/ light themes, if possible, please open a new github issue for this sicne I'm gonna forget it thank to my goldfish brain 😁

[scarlet cave]

on zen internet?

[dull rover]

https://sameerasw.github.io/my-internet/

[scarlet cave]

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/issues/1153

[pine storm]

@dull rover You there?

Like are you free?

[dull rover]

I am here... free... maybe... :3 depends

[scarlet cave]

no hes paid

[pine storm]

Alr

So

Where

is

Zen

installed

in

Mac

[dull rover]

technically you can run from anywhere but the ideal path would be
/Applications/Zen.app

[pine storm]

Damn, keyboard editor actually works - converted my Space into Enter as I typed without looking.

[dull rover]

i was wondering

[pine storm]

@lethal musk Needed help installing Sine.

Can you list the method you used to install it?

Manual installation.

[dull rover]

I think I did what the old guide told me but the new guide was missing that part.. not sure if it's updated now

[pine storm]

Oh, do you by chance remember where is default/prefs directory located?

@dull rover These two js files are essential for base operations of Sine.

[dull rover]

I think here

/Applications/Zen.app/Contents/Resources

but idk for windows

[pine storm]

He is on MacOS, that's why I asked you. 🙂

Ik about Windows as I've manually installed Sine as well.

[dull rover]

"/Applications/Zen.app/Contents/Resources/defaults/pref/config-prefs.js"

Found this... remember updating it too

[pine storm]

@lethal musk Follow this when you get active.

[lethal musk]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[lethal musk]

I'll do it this afternoon and tell if it worked

[lethal musk]

bruh this is all i could find

and there is no defaults folder

@dull rover did you install sine manually?

[dull rover]

ohhhh you still have the "Zen Browser" not the new "Zen" ... maybe that's related.... but I see no difference in your files

[dull rover]

yes

[slow egret]

how would one get the new Zen instead of the Zen Browser?

[dull rover]

I think I had to do a remove and re-install once but not sure.... if you ever only used the in-app updater, I think it won't change like yours

[ebon garnet]

@dull rover im getting a bug where when i try to change zen internet extension settings, the browser is unresponsive and i have to force quit

this occured after updating to the most recent zen update

[dull rover]

version number?

hope it's. not 2.2.5

because I had to roll it back due to unthemed websites not gettign any changes

[ebon garnet]

it says 2.2.4

this is the version of zen im on

[dull rover]

ohhh then it should not be a problem tho... can you take a backup from the advanced settings of the addon and send me... it should be a json file.. will help me to see if anything wrong with addons side

[dull rover]

I haven't updated to .9b yet.. it just got released... lemme do and see if it broke something

[ebon garnet]

yeah your gonna get the rainbow cursor spinny thing when you try to change settings lol

and then have to force quit

kuz nothing works

[dull rover]

ohhh god... lemme prepare for the impact and update

[dull rover]

I can't replicate it tho.... so you tried adjusting settings in the pop up of the addon right? then it hangs? and only for zen internet?

[ebon garnet]

here lemme record screen

[dull rover]

ye, will help a lot... and also if possible, attach the backup json from advanced settings if that page is reachable

[ebon garnet]

how do i access the advanced settings page?

[ebon garnet]

oh i see, well the problem is i cant kuz when i click on the zen internet to change settings it doesnt pop up and the browser becomes unresponsive

as you can see with the video

[dull rover]

oooo i see .... can you make sure the ublock and darkreader addons work? (their pop-ups)

[ebon garnet]

OH SHIT

u block did the same thing

[dull rover]

💀

[ebon garnet]

so its a Zen browser problem then?

none of the extensions work

it just breaks the browser lol

[dull rover]

Zen might be cooked... try any of the features of zen that opens a floating window

[ebon garnet]

wdym

[dull rover]

theme editor, bookmarks, about zen dialog....

to see if it's just addons or any secondary windows

[ebon garnet]

those work fine from what im seeing

its just the extensions

[dull rover]

ok... one way to try to fix is to create a enw profile and test if things works over there.. but first.. what mods you got? try turning all them off and then quit, re open the browser and see if they work

[ebon garnet]

fuck thats so much work lol

[dull rover]

first, just try turning off all the mods (there's a master toggle for mods) and re-opening the browser

also remove any custom css if you got

[ebon garnet]

i have another profile thats fresh

imma try that one

[dull rover]

ye.. good idea... maybe it's a mod.. maybe css.. maybe corrupted install of zen

depending on that, we could try to find a fix

[ebon garnet]

its definetly my userchrome or mods

this profile works fine

at least the u block extension

[dull rover]

what mods you got... ?first try either by removing all userChrome content ... or just turning all mods off... you might need to re-launch zen to take full effect of changes

[ebon garnet]

i got so many bro its gonna be tough to figure out which one is breaking the browser

the only one i care about is transparency

and the zen internet

so im thinking of just deleting every other mod

[dull rover]

Well, we can circle down the issue at least so it becomes easy to fidn the cause...

[ebon garnet]

ok so what should i do just turn one on one by one and see what is the cause?

[dull rover]

well... that could work.. unless it's userChrome.... if it isn't userChrome, that would help us to find what mod causes this and report it too

[ebon garnet]

it could also very well be the user chrome too lol

[dull rover]

first, turn all mods off with this and try if that fixes... if that crashes... re-open zen and try again...

if all that fails. that's the userChrome to blame

[topaz ingot]

hi is there a way to make it less blurry and more light not this dark

[ebon garnet]

heres what im gonna do, im gonna take the user chrome and apply it to this fresh profile with no mods

if it breaks the extensions

i know its the userchrome

kuz i have no mods installed on this profile

[dull rover]

blur depends on the OS... but we could try to modify the tint with the workspace theme

[dull rover]

ye,t hat would help too

but more work than just removing the css fromt he broken profile because you gotta enable those flags and stuff in about:config in the new profile

[ebon garnet]

doesnt look like is the user chrome

applied the broken profile user chrome to the new profile and no crash/forcequit

im guessing its gotta be one of the mods

[dull rover]

now turn all mods off and see if that fixes

[lethal musk]

did you add the defaults folder and everything in it?

[lethal musk]

@dull rover i did everything in the installation guide for manual installation

is there anything else you did because im still not getting sine

[dull rover]

you got the auto... thiny right? I can't remember the name.. autoconfig fx???

[lethal musk]

i did everything in the guide

[lethal musk]

the config-prefs.js. yes i added it

[dull rover]

https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/fx-autoconfig

this one too? this is a prerequisites for sine

[lethal musk]

you mean these highlighted ones?

[dull rover]

then the rest should work ig... idk why it isn't

[dull rover]

ye

you don't see any sign of sine right? or sine is present but broken? in my first install, it was broken...

also make sure you try this on a new profile

[lethal musk]

alright il try and ping you

@dull rover not working in a new profile either

do i need to add anything from the sine repo?

[dull rover]

after you installed fx-autoconfig and launched, did you see the thing at bottom right? if not, that is not instlled correctly i think

[dull rover]

yes... first autoconfig... then sine stuff

[lethal musk]

i did see a message

[lethal musk]

which sine stuff and where do i add them

[dull rover]

ooo then autoconfig is fine... just need to move over the sine files

[dull rover]

I can't remember correctly... lemme check the guide

[pine storm]

sine.uc.mjs ➡ JS folder.

[lethal musk]

the guide didn't say which sine files to add

[lethal musk]

ok what is the js foler now

[pine storm]

Here

[dull rover]

yeap.. the updated guide only has the autoconfig guide... nothing about sine is there

https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine/wiki/Installation#-manual-installation

[pine storm]

Sine must be installed now. "Clear Startup Cache" after opening the browser. @lethal musk

[lethal musk]

it worked

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-14509012201879549605

[pine storm]

I said @alpine briar to add it in his README.md but seems like he has a lot on his shoulders rn!

[pine storm]

Now, install Zen Zero.

[dull rover]

understandable

[alpine briar]

real. i'm working on it rn

[dull rover]

well, the mod... addon is still need to be installed from ff store

[alpine briar]

to be fair, i couldn't make easy to understand guides so I asked ai to make one which clearly removed sine.

[pine storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

[dull rover]

relatable...

Exactly how I break things in zen internet.

(at one point, ai removed the code to update the last fetched time... now it's stuck... I gotta fix and add that code back LOL)

[alpine briar]

oh, not for code. just the wiki. I fixed it now

[lethal musk]

where can i view the js mods i installed?

[lethal musk]

i use some of it's css

[dull rover]

btw... now we don't have the prevent tab from unloading option right? we gotta pin it to keep it?

[pine storm]

Right, what I mean is install it in your new profile and keep it as it is.

[alpine briar]

🤷‍♂️ Idk. You can view them with all other mods.

[lethal musk]

i installed the quick search mod

and restarted zen

where can i see it on sine

[pine storm]

Here

[alpine briar]

in the mods section?

[lethal musk]

found it

maybe ill add raccoon to sine someday

[pine storm]

What is racoon?

Right, you renamed stolen css!

lol

[lethal musk]

https://github.com/mr-e7ro7/Raccoon-Zen

[pine storm]

Right, lemme try to install it by Sine.

[alpine briar]

I finally got rid of that ugly padding on the auto-update button.

@lethal musk Did you add a js property that links to the js files?

oh, nvm. not js

[lethal musk]

i didn't add it to sine

[alpine briar]

sine supports installing from repository.

[lethal musk]

bro i just restarted zen and sine disappeared

[pine storm]

"Clear Startup Cache" in about:support.

[lethal musk]

i already tried that

it didn't work

[pine storm]

Refresh Settings.

[alpine briar]

ctrl+shift+j, what does it say?

[lethal musk]

idk what all this means

got sine back😁

[pine storm]

There are cases when Sine disappears out of nowhere. One has to restart browser normally, then clearning startup cache as well, to get it back!

lol

[lethal musk]

all my zen mods disappeared

[pine storm]

For this, refresh settings page.

Then restart browser.

If not resolved, clear startup cache.

First few instances of running Sine is very tough.

Although, somehow, it gets better.

[lethal musk]

i did all that 10 times already

[alpine briar]

Two new logos ready for the branches of Sine.

[alpine briar]

hmm. odd.

newThemeData is undefined. turn off auto-updating and refresh page.

[pine storm]

What about Sine itself?

[alpine briar]

That already has a logo.

[lethal musk]

"Be gentle it's my first time" (zen to sine)

[pine storm]

💀 @alpine briar Bruh this is actually true!

[alpine briar]

[lethal musk]

@alpine briar sine is back, but my mods aint😭

[alpine briar]

check your zen-themes.json

[lethal musk]

i still have it

[alpine briar]

ik. what does it have in it?

[lethal musk]

this stuff🤷‍♂️

[alpine briar]

full thing?

[lethal musk]

i cant send the full thing

[alpine briar]

why not?

[lethal musk]

I didn't touch anything outside the chrome file and the autoconfig stuff

I also checked on a fresh profile and everything was fine

[alpine briar]

ik. but something could be wrong wtih your mods

[alpine briar]

yeah, that's it

[lethal musk]

??

Is my profile now broken???

[alpine briar]

no no. i just need to make sure your zen-themes.json is supported. it should all work but maybe something is a huge edge case.

[lethal musk]

How do I do this

[alpine briar]

go to about:support, open profile folder, zen-themes.json.

[lethal musk]

ya

[lethal musk]

i think there is more thats broken

[alpine briar]

idk. not sine

[lethal musk]

it happened after installing sine

[alpine briar]

hmm. idk

[pine storm]

Ig remove all mods and del zen-themes folder and zen-themes.css. Also ensure zen-themes.json has nothing but {} in it.

It solved any issue for me.

[lethal musk]

ill try

[alpine briar]

man. i was tryna see if there was an issue with the mods. doesn't really matter tho.

[lethal musk]

did you have the problem with deleting profiles aswell?

[pine storm]

There has to be compatibility issue, no other reason for Sine to not work!

[pine storm]

Nope, why would there be a problem?

[lethal musk]

@pine storm help i cant delete these

i tried to install these with sine

[pine storm]

Del it create a new one with {} in it.

[lethal musk]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-i-love-you-ily-that70s-show-ashton-kutcher-gif-2466163091627818440

[dull rover]

this is because of a mod. I saw someone figure it out in reddit

[lethal musk]

it happened when i tried to install a sine mod (quick search)

speaking of quick search, what is it's keyboard shortcut on mac?

[quartz horizon]

Now Playing playlist background (YouTube) isn’t applying transparency. It shows a flat white layer instead of blending with the UI.

[tall vault]

is the main “Zen” out?

not beta?

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/you-guys-are-getting-paid-gif-20686662

What is quick search 👀

first time hearing LOL

[dull rover]

where does this UI appear?

nvm... it is expected behavior... it's just that youtube doesn't have a propper auto theme so you have to reload to apply theme changes

I didn't add transparency there since it is a bit similar element tot he player along with it and also since it has overscroll, it looked better with a bg

[quartz horizon]

Got it. Makes sense now. Just felt off since the rest of the UI had transparency.

[lethal musk]

https://github.com/Darsh-A/Quick-Search-Zen-Browser/tree/main

[dull rover]

oooo nice!

[lament summit]

For some reason duckduckgo's home page shows translucent but whenever I search it becomes opaque :(

[sullen flume]

https://github.com/JustAdumbPrsn/Zen-Nebula/issues/135

just letting u know

zen internet was causing this for me

[dull rover]

I keep seeing this same effect which I assume from darkreader

I can't replicate it tho... idk why... if the user does not want transparency, they should turn it off from advanced settings or unless this is very much possible to have a white bg unless but that's out of my control since mods & addons don't talk to each other

[dull rover]

fine for me, using darkreader? if so, skip, this website already has a dark theme

[vast sage]

Give me your wallpaper looks good!

[vast sage]

Thanks!

Do you have a pixeled wallpapers?

I'm looking for one

[dull rover]

nah... hard to find them... and also hard to upscale either when low quality images were found

[lament summit]

Thank you so much!!
It didn't click for me that dark reader could be messing it up.

[dull rover]

btw, switch to new darkreader ui and enable dark theme detection and keep it in auto mode, it should skip most websites that has a built-in dark theme if it's implemented correctly

[lament summit]

Where is the new dark reader ui toggle?

[dull rover]

Should be in advanced settings -> dev tools

It's not that new, been there for a long time tho

[lament summit]

Thank you!! I enabled it!

[proud ginkgo]

Ah i was losing my mind
good to know its known

[sullen flume]

i thought too, but i started having this myself even after disabling darkreader, and it turned out to be zen internet

[dull rover]

Maybe something google doing as a new UI change in A/B testing... god I hate those!

[sullen flume]

could be, but this happened to me in chatgpt.com also

[dull rover]

weird indeed... idk what the cause is

[dull rover]

Finally!!!!! I found where your name was familiar LOL

[pine storm]

What is it's function?

[dull rover]

creates dynamic macos wallpapers. (Time based, theme based .... etc)

[pine storm]

Oh like Dynamic Windows app, great

[dull rover]

kinda yeah.... they are just .heic images

[alpine briar]

We need this for app icons in Windows.

@heavy monolith do you know if you can set up a dual boot system and interact with it just like a dual boot system except also be able to open it like a vm in one of the OS's?

[verbal steeple]

Idk what wrong i followed the docs

[dull rover]

what's your issue? it won't be transparent when you have the workspace theme with full contrast... reduce contrast.

Found the culprit!!!!!!!

I SEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I fuckin hate Google and their some websites like youtube!

this is because google does not use proper dark theme. it only switches if you reload... and that’s sometimes inaccurate... since I have added a fallback background, google takes two business days to decide if it should be in dark or light theme with js and till then, browser is treating as the default theme which is light!

guess I have to rollback the fallback background feature and add it in a different way

will fix tonight soon

[verbal steeple]

I did that still nothing

[dull rover]

nah.. then there shouldn't be a gradient visible... using any other theme mods or something?

[dull rover]

Fixed!!!! Now the fallback background is optional. So if you want a background for a website that doesn't have, you can use this forced option to add that

Update to v2.3.0 to fix that weird Googel and YouTube white color bug.

[verbal steeple]

1. i tried to removed it but i cant
2. no i dont use any theme

[dull rover]

you can keep the slider halfway to have partial transparency.

[verbal steeple]

??

wym?

[dull rover]

1. i did it but it dont want to be removed
   you don't want the gradient to be removed?

[verbal steeple]

lol i mean i want to be removed fr

-# im stupid i hate myself

[dull rover]

ahhhh

Also someone said this, but IDK if it's true and does fix it...
https://github.com/sameerasw/zen-themes/issues/23#issuecomment-2932214661

I doubt this is the cause but worth a try

[verbal steeple]

gfx.webrender.all set to true
gfx.webrender.compositor & gfx.webrender.compositor.force-enabled set to True

i did those but still nothing

actually it made the github page normal dark theme

[lament summit]

Is there a way to change transparency level?

For some reason it feels less translucent since 1-2 days ig

[dull rover]

so this brown color is your workspace theme color? or Windows color... ?

Also I might sound repeating but can you make sure the contrast slider is at full left.. and when it is, also send a screenshot if possible or tell me what color it is

[dull rover]

Windows?

[lament summit]

Yup

[dull rover]

I think you can try micaforeveryone to adjust that.. I got no configs since I don't use it on Windows tho

[lament summit]

Oh I see
Ima check it out! Thank you!

[dull rover]

If that brown accent is your Windows accent color, turn off the "show accent color on borders" setting... If not, that's something else in the browser.

[verbal steeple]

workspace theme

[dull rover]

ohhhh that is very weird... I guess a Zen bug... afaik, at 0 contrast, it shouldn't still have the Zen workspace theme color... IDk what it's gonna look at 100%>>>Try on a new profile as well... and if still exists, I guess report it... Sometimes creatign a new profile is enought to fix existing profile bugs...

[verbal steeple]

this 100%

made new profile and it look like this

[dull rover]

If this is also with 0 contrast, then it's the OS to blame.... Just to make sure, other apps like terminal, this pc top bar and also components like the start menu has transparency?

[verbal steeple]

meh i will try everything i could tomorrow fr

anyway ty :3

[dull rover]

I'ma head to bed too 😁
Hope you can figure out something

(⊃｡•́‿•̀｡)⊃

[verbal steeple]

nice have good dreams fr fr, and if i figure something out i will tell you :3

[dull rover]

Now that I've done with my 3rd year and Summer break just started..... I might try creating a transparency guide video soon... But it will beon mac so I guess I will link the troubleshooting steps for Windows,

Demonstrating on a new profile should be the same as the initial setup right?

[dull rover]

So far, these are in my mind... I would like some help on other OS like Windows and KDE when it comes to their configurations needed so I can include...

[pine storm]

I can help with Windows 11.

[dull rover]

Nice... I will try to get things started tonight... I would also like to feature more community mods and css in there... So ig I might try installing a few themes too

[dull rover]

hey.. did we figure out the cause for this? I got a user witht he same issue and I can't recall fi we foudn the fix for this

[verbal steeple]

@dull rover Got it working

1. needed to use mica with this settings
2. and make sure to tell people about the power saving bec without it it lags and blur keep going away and come fr

[pine storm]

Is the issue fixed with MFE? The issue is that after Zen loses focus, it has an ugly gray color. It would be okay to me if it was even balck, but washed out gray color made me not use MFE and switch.

[verbal steeple]

rn when i did that it dont go bad

make sure browser.tabs.allow_transparent_browser is set to true fr

[pine storm]

Well I found a solution to keep Zen transparent even if focus is lost. 🙂

That's what I always wanted.

[verbal steeple]

nice

[pine storm]

I could've been great though if it worked with MFE.

[dusk pumice]

@dull rover

[dull rover]

oooo thanks for pointing it out

[dull rover]

tried reloading? can you also share a backup of your addon settings too so i can take a better look?

[dull rover]

happens on any website?

[dusk pumice]

ofc yes

here is my backup

everything is almost default

[dull rover]

or youtube only?

[dusk pumice]

no, transparency doesnt work on every website

[dull rover]

I just loaded your backup. but looks fine for me.

[dull rover]

aha! then it's easy... make sure you followed the full guide... what I assume you are missing is either the transparent zen mod itself or forgot to enabel the setting inside it.

https://www.sameerasw.com/zen

[dusk pumice]

ofc i did that

im using arch linux, hyprland fyi

[dull rover]

you need both transparency toggles to be on... I think I have to update my docs to say that sxplicitly.. will update soon.. sorry abt that

enable both two toggles at top and re-open the browser

[dusk pumice]

oh, it worked

tysm

[dull rover]

nice!

BTW, any windows user here who can share me a screen recording of setting up mfe for zen? so I can include in the video guide I'm working on... also would help another video of going into settings and turning on the transparency, turning off show accent color on window borders and also toggling power saving?

I think those are all the windows specific stuff I need to include..

[pine storm]

sxplicitly
Well well well, what have we got here?

[dull rover]

replace s with e... or maybe add e affter s LOL

[pine storm]

You should recommend both MFE and DWMGlassBlur, cause there are cases (like mine) where MFE isn't compatible for some reason.

I will provide video with recording with DWM.

[dull rover]

ooo I will add it...

[dull rover]

thanks a lot ❤️

[pine storm]

@sullen flume can provide recording for MFE, i.e., if he isn't lazy rn.

[sullen flume]

video for what tho

[pine storm]

Installation of MFE.

[sullen flume]

oh i have to uninstall?

[dull rover]

I'm making a transparency guide video since many requested... but I don't have wimdows to demo that

[sullen flume]

oo

i can make it at 1am

[dull rover]

if so, don't bother...

ohhhh mfe is a windows store like modern app right?

then no need to show how to install... I'm sure ppl can figure that out LOL

[sullen flume]

it has its .appinstaller on github release

i never told anyone how to install mfe and everyone managed to

[dull rover]

ahh ez... then no need to show installatiopn

[sullen flume]

BUT

[dull rover]

understanable.

[sullen flume]

please tell em that it does not work on win10

win10 does not support transparency

[dull rover]

ohhh don't worry, I began the guide saying it's not... 🙂

[sullen flume]

(i guess dwm blurglass works but never tried)

[dull rover]

otherwise I will have to type that 100 times

[sullen flume]

fr

[dull rover]

nah... ppl tried

[pine storm]

Yeah it does. It changes registry values safely to configure transparency.

[dull rover]

also, if possible, can you include a simple workthrogh of nebula as well... no need of installation... they can follow the instructions on github ..

[pine storm]

What? I recommended a Windows 10 user DWM and it worked for him! Perhaps those you saw reporting DWM not working on 10 must have invalid symbols which has to be downloaded.

[dull rover]

a short clip would be nice... just show off all the cool stuff 😁 I will link to the existing install guide video

[dull rover]

ohhhhh ... then it makes sense... I will update it so it says it's possible but may need complicated configurations

[pine storm]

It isn't complicated tbh. Like there is an option in the app itself to download and make symbols valid lol!

[dull rover]

oooo sick!

[pine storm]

Will it be ok if I send this vid tomorrow? Kind of have a project at work to complete which has to be presented tomorrow.

Just got reminded of it by Outlook Reminder. Good thing Outlook exists to remind me or else I would be fired by now!😁

[dull rover]

no hurry! not a one day thing 😁 take ur time... I only work on this at night too because of work... I'm still doing screen recordings and tts.

[dull rover]

same same... me without reminders won't exist either... I got a goldfish brain

[verbal steeple]

np

[ebon garnet]

nah ive been sick all weekend so i havent really figured out whats causing the issue

im certain its some sort of mod thats causing the issues tho

its not the custom css

[dull rover]

ohhh, get well soon man...

i also saw another report of this in reddit.. that's why i was curious.

[pulsar arch]

There is one in my repo

[dull rover]

I checked it but was no video there right?

but I forgot.... I will also link to your repo since it is well inside the transparency topic

Also I am thinking of what else we could be adding in the video... what other projects... 👀

[pulsar arch]

Not necessarily needed tbh

Mica is pretty easy

Just install and toggle the settings I have a picture of

That's pretty much it

Also I gave the solution if some apps misbehave or such

[dull rover]

ah... but ig some would like exact steps because I personally have gotted a lot of messages of them w/o knowing to add rules...

[dull rover]

ye, will be very helpful

[pulsar arch]

You mean as a video?

Cause there's detailed step to step instruction there already

[dull rover]

ye that's what I'm trying to find atm.. since I got no windows pc, couldn't record it... but it will be a very brief ... then I will lead tot his guide because there's more stuff ppl can figure out

[pulsar arch]

I see

[dull rover]

some progress LOL

[pulsar arch]

Yea sure I can make one

Just brief me what you want in the video

[dull rover]

I don't think we need how to install guide... if possible, open mfe with nothing set up and show how to apply a rule to zen with it... maybe show adjusting transparency and how it take effect if it's real time... that's all. I'll share a sample clip that I have with zen so you know the pace... I willa dd tts.

[pulsar arch]

Sure

[dull rover]

more

[dull rover]

custom zen zero logo 😁

https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/blob/main/zen0.png & https://github.com/sameerasw/my-internet/blob/main/zen0-mini.png

[pulsar arch]

Ey thats nice

Already added

[dull rover]

Update... I got mfe recording ... it was actually pretty easy... I only need dwm blur glass but since that's not a modern windows app, I can't test on my windows pc

[pine storm]

I got you, sending the recording in few mins. 🙂

[pine storm]

@dull rover I apologize for delay. Had to be out due to unforeseen family gathering (which I hate a lot).
Here it is.

Ah it's MKV file.

Kindly convert it if it isn't compatible. 🙂

[dull rover]

ahhh no prob... I was jsut slowly editing the video anyways...

Thanks again ❤️

[dull rover]

Time to cook....

[dull rover]

Maybe?

[dull rover]

Zen Zero - Transparency setup guide for Zen Browser on YouTube

https://youtu.be/4Pjk_EsT9TE

Video is out!

[pulsar arch]

This is soooo detailed

Awesome

[sullen flume]

@dull rover idk why but zen internet is still broken for me loll

websites break when using it

[dull rover]

can you give me an example? like what happens? aksi most importantly, can you share your backup file from the addon so I can take a look?

[sullen flume]

let me send a screenshot

google

gpt

pinterest seems to be working a bit

also

i noticed that

the google white background thing only happens when global styling is set to off

but if global styling is set to on then google looks like default google

[dull rover]

can yous hare your backup file? would help a lot figuring out

[sullen flume]

sure

where can i find it

this?

[dull rover]

ye ye... lemme take a look

[dull rover]

I submitted v2.3.1 now... Hope will be approved soon... I think it should fix it... at least with the backup, it gave no issues 😄

Thanks for pointing it out tho!

[sullen flume]

oo

[dull rover]

update approved, you can now get it 🙂

[dull rover]

BTW, sorry for the ping

On Win10 setup, any extra steps to do than w11?

[alpine briar]

not the narrator voice.😭

[dull rover]

eyy man, I ain't speakin that much so had to do it LOL ... and uk was the best I found...

but bro really says "BRRROWWWSer"

[alpine briar]

should I do that for Sine? Maybe I can get someone that is okay with doxxing their voice to record audio on top of a guide I make.

[dull rover]

I mean, that would be very useful! but you'd need multiple sources of installation on all th OSs ig... I just used this TTS, on 2 devices... because ran out of free guest tts conversions LOL
https://ttsmaker.com/

[alpine briar]

I could use the ElevenLabs Brian voice.

[dull rover]

[alpine briar]

Nah, I could take a discord moderator voice from https://weights.gg

[dull rover]

oooo today I learn

[verbal steeple]

Coooool

[keen skiff]

where to save backup file?
I have same issue

[dull rover]

should download to your downloads folder

[pine storm]

Nope. Same steps to be followed on 10 as well.

[pine storm]

@dull rover https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/pyri6nhw52trohgvoz9wj/zen_vJHrBf06VK.mp4?rlkey=pq3bdibd5z9hkg9yuswrm1ugs&dl=0
Seems like lyrics doesn't stay anymore as it used to as mouse pointer is removed from hovering on it.

[pulsar arch]

Do you manually upload to dropbox and share link here?

[pine storm]

What?

No, that's lengthy.

It's automated upload URL task done by ShareX after I end screen recording.

[pulsar arch]

O

[dull rover]

What's that addon name again... I think it should be still possible but the extension might have changed some stuff that prevents

[pine storm]

BetterLyrics.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/better-lyrics/

[dull rover]

lemme try to fix

[dull rover]

weird

[pine storm]

😭

[dull rover]

sure tried reloading?

[pine storm]

Seems like google changed this as well

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/again-miracle-gif-7310245

ye, they've ween doing a lot of changes altely... now that I look at my work pc, google chat is kinda broken too

I assume a lot more changes are coming with M3e updates

[vast sage]

Do you watch soccer/football?

[pine storm]

Yes. Argentina owned Chile and Spain (Lamine Yamal) owned France.

[vast sage]

right

[pine storm]

Which is your fav player?

[vast sage]

Siuuuuuuuu

[pine storm]

Great choice. 👏
Mine is Messi

[vast sage]

i will go playing cya!

[dull rover]

yayyyy... theme reequests completed! 😄

[pulsar arch]

wdym no account?

[dull rover]

Website requests which needs an account to be opened but I do not have one, And I don't want to create one... they are open for contributions

[keen skiff]

I noticed that my Zen Browser doesn't have any option to enable hardware acceleration. I already tried changing the settings in about:config, but it still has no effect.

[dull rover]

think you are not alone... this seemed like a windows thing... with ff and zen.. but would need to look into by someone

[dull rover]

what was your issue?

[keen skiff]

I am from telegram that ask you the same problem

[dull rover]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-get-it-jack-donaghy-30rock-i-understand-gif-21961614

[keen skiff]

But My gpu is only using 4% in video decode

chorme is 7%

[keen skiff]

Is that normal?

I see firefox blog they have hardware acceleration option

[dull rover]

it appears if you disable this toggle right?

[keen skiff]

yes it appears

but still not work

[pine storm]

@dull rover How is your JS learning going on? Given the creativity you've, you can add so many features to Zen Zero! 🤔

[dull rover]

0 progress
Because of the video, couldn't try anything... Just finished the pending requests so maybe not today... but I do need to learn it soon... finished all my presentations so kinda bored nowdays till the end of the summer break

[pine storm]

Nw... 🙂
Btw did you check out e.e's NeoZen theme?

[dull rover]

neozen? where 👀

oooo didn't see the github repo there

[pine storm]

You have access to neon themed zen i am talking about?

[dull rover]

this?
https://github.com/JustVibingWhileCoding/Neo-Zen

I saw this in showcase but didn't see the repo then... more screenshots are there.. looks hella nice

[pine storm]

Yes.
Can you make container themed as per how it is here? Like ik it might not match the design of Zen Zero, but can you personalize it to make container tabs in Zen Zero look better than the default ones?

[dull rover]

I will give it a try... don't think I've ever used container tabs (hence it's even disabeld in my context menu LOL)

[pine storm]

Ik, but with my work, I've to use mutiple Google A/cs, and even if in diff workspaces, Google doesn't allow different account to run in one browser at the same time. It forces to switch to the last current active A/c.

Only containers can help to evade this limit.

That's why, it would be great if you could add it. 🙂

[dull rover]

Man... I really should try to use things outside of what I see daily.. because this would be perfect for personal/ uni setup... afaik, there's no way to assign containers to spaces right? but still would be awesome... gotta try it out

[dull rover]

I will definitely add it.. maybe even tonight if I don't fell asleep early 😁

[pine storm]

I see you'll be the one to support this theme longest ❤️ . Other theme devs will just abandon their theme with upcoming priorities in their lives. (Like Green did 😞 )

[dull rover]

btw, I'm about to delete the default containers... the currently opened tabs aren't affected unless they are in a container right?

[pine storm]

Idk I never deleted containers. 🙂

[dull rover]

It was fine, deleted all

[pine storm]

Ah sry, mistyped

[keen skiff]

Does anyone works fine in win10?

[dull rover]

ooops.. went a bit side track when enabling the containers context menu entry LOl

[alpine briar]

you should just work full-time for the Zen UI team.

[dull rover]

I would contribute if I got a device that can handle the browser build..... Def need more storage...

[alpine briar]

I'm building it right now. Trying to see if I can get it to work in the first place.

[fringe pier]

could i get some help getting transparency working?

[dull rover]

sure, what's up?

[pine storm]

First of all, which OS?

[fringe pier]

win11

[dull rover]

I assume win

[pine storm]

Get DWMGlassBlur.

[fringe pier]

ive followed the guide several times across different profiles and the transparent zen mod doesnt seem to want to work

[pine storm]

Didn't you say YT video is released?

[fringe pier]

i have mica for everyone

should i use dwm instead?

[dull rover]

can you share a ss? would help a lot figuring out what the issue related to

[pine storm]

Yeah, MFE fails to work sometimes.

[dull rover]

did did

[dull rover]

well, there should be transparency already eh... ig gotta fix it first

[fringe pier]

downloading dwm and taking some 1 sec

[pine storm]

I did try many things when I had issue with MFE myself. Can't say I fixed it. 😦

I tried everything tbh

But seems like Windows Update somehow screws it in some way.

[dull rover]

yes but I meant without any mods... transparency should still work with mica and acrylic

[manic terrace]

sameerasw

[dull rover]

ye

[manic terrace]

Window 10 can have transparent browser ye?

[dull rover]

As Equinox shard, yes

[manic terrace]

cuz onyl my titlebar of debugger has transparency but the actual browser itself doesn't

[dull rover]

that green is your workspace theme right?

[manic terrace]

yep, tryna find the css to remove it

i think the ws theme is overriding it

[dull rover]

reduce the contrast.. tried it?

[manic terrace]

all the way to 0 and all the way to 100

like the vid on ur site

atm

[dull rover]

ooo is your system accent color si green too?

[manic terrace]

Absolutely not

It's changed by wallpaper engine and atm it's gray

[dull rover]

huh.... You synced the latest symbols inside DWM blur glass?

[dull rover]

ooo there's no transparency on the taskbar from what I see.... might be related?

[manic terrace]

yes

[manic terrace]

I did

[manic terrace]

I don't have transparent/translucent taskbar installed

[dull rover]

isn't win10 taskbar transparent by default with the acrylic effect? I rmmbr being that

[manic terrace]

I know that's the case for Windows nt-dev 11

[dull rover]

@pine storm got any idea of this? 👀

[manic terrace]

Idk abt Windows 10

[pine storm]

@dull rover #1376435879152717874 message
Bro, also when you introduce container tabs, include this pseudo bg as well for sidebar and floating urlbar. Ik you don't use it, but you can add a pref for it in your css as an option for users. 🙂
e.e can provide you the specific code.

[pine storm]

I see

well, can I tell tomorrow? @manic terrace I am going to sleep. Ik the fix, but it's a bit time consuming.

[manic terrace]

ofcourse

it's 2am

for me ^

[pine storm]

sleep now🙂

[manic terrace]

I'm quite alright with you taking a week or a month

Uty

[manic terrace]

sister-

but ok

[dull rover]

but idk how to get the size of the urlbar to match the ::before.. maybe I'll look into it

[manic terrace]

got some gaming to do

[pine storm]

Is size diff in your theme and his? Looks similar to me... 🤔

[pine storm]

Nah, what timezone you in? I'm in UTC +5:30

[manic terrace]

gmt+8

[dull rover]

oooo I'll look into that repo.... I didn't chech that part yet

[manic terrace]

anyone wanna make a RWS on that sidebar :3 (ill do it eventually)

[pine storm]

You in Antarctica for me now 🙂

[manic terrace]

try japan

also BD moment

[dull rover]

one thing... do you want the container indicator to be very prominent and visible or as a subtle thing?

[pine storm]

Damn, sleep girl!
I'll give you directions early next morning. 🙂

[manic terrace]

why not both and let the user decide with a boolean

[manic terrace]

Alrighty

[dull rover]

that is true

[manic terrace]

normally graya on links mean seen

did u click my bio

[manic terrace]

do whichever is easiest then leave the other one for a few days later

[pine storm]

Was I not supposed to see?

[manic terrace]

no js curious

did ya like wat ya see

[pine storm]

Make it prominent on hover and subtle on no hover 🙂

[dull rover]

oooo good idea

[vagrant marten]

nice piano songs

[manic terrace]

composed it myself

:D'

[vagrant marten]

i think i will listen some a breadth for fresh air

[manic terrace]

i think compose is the right word but i aint gna lie i cba to check if it is

[pine storm]

Woah, what's this!

[vagrant marten]

noice

[manic terrace]

wat's what

[pine storm]

I mean how you did it?

[manic terrace]

</3 miss the guy who made my pfp for me

been awhile since i talked to him

[manic terrace]

i forgor the software but I just clipped a bunch of things i liked and put them back to back

and tada

[vagrant marten]

fix ur pinned tabs pls

[manic terrace]

that came from two or three wallpaper engine song

[manic terrace]

ong

[dull rover]

now that's a cool bio

[manic terrace]

this is mine and i cant even split tab

[vagrant marten]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-stare-scared-nervous-gif-15241717

[manic terrace]

else I cant see

[pine storm]

Nah, your Arcline looks best like this 🙂

[manic terrace]

thanks ❤️

[vagrant marten]

._.

[dull rover]

Now I can't unseeee

[manic terrace]

same

[pine storm]

Can't believe you forgot the sauce, 😞

[manic terrace]

hmm Ill try finding it when I'm free tmr if I remember

[pine storm]

Alr, what to fix here? @alpine briar will look into it as he's the superpins mod dev.

[manic terrace]

is superpins good

[pine storm]

It's very close to what being perfect means with Pinned Tabs. mr Sine is also developing Sine, so he can't fix some prominent bugs thesedays with the mod

[manic terrace]

wat's so good about superpins

[dull rover]

alignment

[manic terrace]

@w@ das a lot of settings

that i prob dont need

[pine storm]

Latest Zen update removed fade tabs on unloading by default. THis mod brings that back along with the ablity to fade texts as well.

I use it for that particular thing.

[fringe pier]

@pine storm@dull rover
cant believe thats what fixed it 💀

[manic terrace]

icic

[pine storm]

In tomorrow's guide, I'll direct to set it up as well, properly leaving out bugs of alignment I am using it with.

[manic terrace]

mkmk

oh wait

I'm going out tmr, is the guide gna be a markdown somewhere

or can u ping me with it o-o

[dull rover]

what did?

[fringe pier]

installing dwm instead of m4e

[pine storm]

I will. Alr bye gn.
I hope @dull rover you cook something I've never expected at all
Just like e.e. did

[pine storm]

That's why I always prefer it above MFE.

[dull rover]

[dull rover]

c ya! Will try something 🙂

[fringe pier]

thanks you guys, ive been looking for a while now

[manic terrace]

gngn

[pine storm]

Whatever you'll try, it'll be perfect ngl.
You're, to be very honest, at the same level as cheff in your domain of theming and aesthetics