Pineapple Fried (Cohesion + Natsumi)

[golden stirrup]

for some reason my start page looks like this

[untold heron]

Hi try Pineapple Fried looks good but url bar tweak not work someone

Someone i bad setting

[narrow trellis]

any macos alternative for micaforeveryone?

[swift kelp]

Its mentioned in the repo

[lime surge]

anything below 100% contrast enables transparency

[fluid schooner]

Hey @odd adder, I spotted a couple of typos while testing my version of Bento on your Pineapple Fried project.

1. =10px at line 11 in Pineapple-Fried/pineapple-fried/cohesion/modules/multi-toolbar-style.css Permalink
2. imoprtant at line 200 in Pineapple-Fried/pineapple-fried/cohesion/modules/compact-toolbar-style.css Permalink

[fluid schooner]

Also, there are a few occurrences of the following string in compact-toolbar-style.css file, just in case these were unintentional

/* Main Browser Panel */
#tabbrowser-tabpanels {
}

[odd adder]

You a real G. Would you mind throwing this info into a gh issue? O saw some of this too when packing with green′s gh bento workflow but I was too tired to deal with it lol.

[odd adder]

Do you have regular Natsumi installed?

[odd adder]

Did you get all the about:config options enabled?

[untold heron]

Now yes... I installed again only natsumi. Maybe i more read github.... What have need enabled??

[odd adder]

You need regular Natsumi in order for Natsumi-Tweaks to be applied.

Natsumi-Tweaks is just a layer that sits ′on-top′ of regular Natsumi.

[untold heron]

Yes now work all...

[golden stirrup]

yeah i have all of them

[odd adder]

any custom css in userContent?

[golden stirrup]

nope i js downloaded urs

[odd adder]

try in a new profile?

[twilit wyvern]

everything working except the URL bar

[odd adder]

Is natsumi installed?

[twilit wyvern]

I can send the screenshot of my folder

[twilit wyvern]

yes sir

[odd adder]

move natsumi import above pfr

[twilit wyvern]

still the same sir

[odd adder]

did you restart after?

[twilit wyvern]

pm'd you sir

[golden stirrup]

it works

should i js copy the chrome folder from that profile and put it in the other

[fluid schooner]

Done

[narrow trellis]

kwin better blur aint working for me

[odd adder]

Sorry I haven't tested this personally yet so not sure how to troubleshoot Better Blur.

Anyone else on KDE have experience with BB?

[swift kelp]

@opal summit?

[spark thistle]

You don't have the natsumi folder, that's why you don't have the natsumi changes

[vocal compass]

bruh

how do i post mkv .-.

there

mica replaces shadows with transparency .-.

how do i fix

[tardy relic]

can the sidebar not blur in compact mode??

[south venture]

add rules for Flow Launcher...

in Mica4Everyone setting

[vocal compass]

:o

thank you

[opal summit]

Should be as simple as

1. Disable the standard blur and enable better blur
2. Enable "blur all except matching " in the better blur Settings
3. Set your gradient in zen browser to "#" to make the browser transparent

[odd adder]

compact tab bar is a little funky, yeah 😦 just a zen thing. I think Natsumi has some "Glass" options for compact mode

[idle fern]

I need a Mac version with sidebar folders. Anyone?

[odd adder]

this should work on mac just fine?

[tardy relic]

I enabled the glass option, didnt make a difference :/

[fluid schooner]

PF breaks natsumi's floating panel's glass effect and border radius on all side except the bottom left one.

The first highlighted line gets overridden when the second one is checked. Second line messes up the border radius

[odd adder]

this is a really good bug catch, thank you. Would you mind throwing these into a github issue on the repo so I can track it better?

[fluid schooner]

Yeah, as soon as I get to my system

[odd adder]

no rush

[halcyon seal]

This is just crazy

[odd adder]

crazy how?

[halcyon seal]

Crazy good

I'm astonished about what people can do with Zen

[odd adder]

(btw in Wazz-tweaks.css i'm still using your implementation of URL loading gradient animation from probably more than a month ago)

[lost oyster]

nice! and darn, I literally just installed Natsumi 😂

[odd adder]

You still need normal natsumi to get the full PF experience

Just keep what you have for natsumi and throw PF in there too

[fluid schooner]

In multiple toolbar mode, are bookmark button and site settings button clickable for you in PF? URL bar is focused when I click these. Does not happen when PF is not installed.

[odd adder]

This was fixed in a minor update, get the new files from the Releases section of the Github page

[fluid schooner]

oh, cool

[crude fiber]

Heya, amazing mod! Just one thing, not sure if it's just me, but I was having an issue with the margin in the top bar so I tweaked the margin property in cohesion/modules/intergrated-urlbar.css (line 15) from 1px left to 10px to match the sidebar as seen here:

[odd adder]

Ty for the fix! Would you mind throwing this into a new github issue so I can track it and add it?

[crude fiber]

Sure! just wanted to put it here first in case it was a "me" issue

[odd adder]

Nah I've had several folks express the same thing today, but I'm afk for a while so it's nice to share this fix around for now

[cosmic brook]

thank you

lifesaver

[crude fiber]

Sent a PR on github

[fluid schooner]

Is there an update script for pineapple fried?

[odd adder]

There's not, just drop the new folder into your chrome folder, that will update it

[spark thistle]

The PR doesn't fully fix the issue, since it doesn't affect the PersonalToolbar

[cosmic brook]

alternative (and probably a better way) to fix the issue is by going into multi-toolbar-style @ line 11

and change 10px to 1px

because the left border is too big, better seen with compact mode enabled

[crude fiber]

Legend! I was initially looking for that selector

[cosmic brook]

fire

well wazz told me about it and i said i'll check it out when i hop on pc next time lol

so there you go

[crude fiber]

Is there a way to inspect elements of the browser for debugging?

[cosmic brook]

i think so

i forgor how 😔

https://docs.zen-browser.app/guides/live-editing#step-3-open-style-editor-in-zen-browser

@crude fiber

i think it's this

[mortal locust]

It work great thanks

[cosmic brook]

np

[fluid schooner]

Each of the hbox elements has margin-left 10px which causes the navbar to hang over to the left. Affects both multiple and single toolbar mode. The margin affects full screen as well

Is this a known issue?

[cosmic brook]

yes, fix here

file: pinapple-fried/cohesion/multi-toolbar-style

@fluid schooner

[fluid schooner]

Ah, thanks!

[cosmic brook]

no problem

i think a PR about this is open

and the author of it heard my fix

maybe it is now in there, maybe not

[odd adder]

I've heard your fix and will merge it eventually lol, just having an ′unplugged′ weekend with the wife

[cosmic brook]

yeah i see lol

thank you

[rocky carbon]

hey @odd adder wanted to tag you aswell incase you applied his fix and thought that was it.

The fix works without a sidebar!
we have the same issue occuring with any sidebar on the left or right.

bookmarks,history,extension sidebar

[odd adder]

Thanks for the clarification, can you add a comment to the existing gh issue

[rocky carbon]

fac it, not a coder like that but ill make a github rn

[rocky carbon]

which of these would be the existing gh issue.

sorry, looked thru them and none of them seemed about it

[cosmic brook]

oh god damn

yeah i don't use them i didn't think that also happens

i might look into it tmrw

[odd adder]

Ah my bad it's under Pull Requests

[rocky carbon]

will do now

[rocky carbon]

appreciate that!

maybe you dont know how cool they can be.

familar with raindrop for bookmarks?

extensions can have shortcuts, i click ALT+Z and it pulls up my bookmarks like this as a sidebar.

When you use the shortcuts for the extension raindrop it really becomes the best bookmark manager imo

[odd adder]

This looks really intereting...

[odd adder]

@lime surge Have you heard of this?

[rocky carbon]

its amazing. just discovered a week ago. No chance raindrop isnt the best after this discovery.

ive been trying to find out how to make the raindrop transparent aswell. i got the sidebar of the raindrop there but not the main background

https://gyazo.com/248e0ce7d0f0126568594d88e1a49ab3

Alt+Z opens and closes. really use to do.

highly recommend checking out

[quasi remnant]

what makes it better than normal bookmarks

[rocky carbon]

id think #tags would be enough considering the nature of bookmarks you may have it in a certain folder but may could easily be tagged as many different topics.

but I like the UI, a lot better looking than any browser incorporated bookmarks ive seen.

and of course i cant be certain its the best but I done research a while back and ended up on raindrop. but the hotkeys to where you can open your bookmark menu and save a bookmark with one click feel like really ties it together and I understand why it gets its name for best bookmark manager

[rocky carbon]

the fix has been posted right below the first fix. wouldd you still like me to do that?

[rocky carbon]

this is the better way of doing it. if you do it like this with multi toolbar style at line 11 instead of integrated-urlbar at line 15

you will not get the issue that I was having

[odd adder]

Okay no need to add duplicate info, just didn't realize it was already in the pr. Thanks for checking!

[rocky carbon]

of course, thank you!

[quasi remnant]

what

[rocky carbon]

these are #tags are you familar

[quasi remnant]

nah

[rocky carbon]

you can categorize things in different categorys then they are categorized

maybe you put all articles in an article bookmark folder

[quasi remnant]

oh right

[rocky carbon]

from there u can tag them all #on/lsd #on/thc

bad examples lol

but u can search by tag

[quasi remnant]

does it display on new tab or appear with keyboard shortcut

[rocky carbon]

and see all articles tagged #on/computerscience

its a side bar

check out the gyazo

https://gyazo.com/248e0ce7d0f0126568594d88e1a49ab3

little example of me clicking ALT+Z this keybind can be whatever you would like though

[rocky carbon]

If your having this issue:

I am replying to the fix. check the message I am replying to

[odd adder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[untold heron]

Hi. Maybe i have somone bad setting but now is top panel of Pinnaple is not centered

[odd adder]

See fix above. Will update PF tonight

[untold heron]

OK THX

[odd adder]

v1.0.2 - URL Margin Fix released

https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/releases/tag/v1.0.2

To update PF, just download the new source code, unzip it, and drop in the new Pineapple Fried folder

[lime surge]

@odd adder did you just...blatantly copy natsumi's readme file

[odd adder]

Was a nice template lol

[fluid schooner]

[fluid schooner]

Before Pineapple Fried was released, I came up with a name and made a demo profile for the PF project called Cohatsumi. I like "Pineapple Fried" but Cohatsumi was a good one as well

[cosmic brook]

lol

[tardy relic]

Natesion?

[lime surge]

please stop shipping cohesion with my girlfriend's japanese nickname thanks

[odd adder]

huh unironically thinking of a rename because now all i can think about is "green's girlfriend-tweaks" and i'm sure she don't need tweaking lol. Maybe something like 'Jacket: a warm and fuzzy layer for Natsumi' 😅

Anyways,

Pineapple Fried v2 is coming

hopefully this weekend

here's the plan: https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/issues/16

[lime surge]

hey at least the name brings me luck

[thick sphinx]

How do i fix this?think this happend cuz i tried installing no gaps mod .

[opal summit]

thats a known bug, due to pineapple fried not working well on the latest zen (1.7.1b). Itll be fixed in the next update
https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/issues/15

[odd adder]

im working on an update but for now go to multi-toolbar-style.css and change the margin-left value on line 11 to zero, and do the same on line 15.

[thick sphinx]

There's still a small gap but that works..Ty

[odd adder]

update coming along nicely

still needs work tho lol. So many states to account for.

[swift kelp]

@odd adder *Alternatives

[south venture]

does anyone experience this as well?

not a big deal but quite annoying tho

[odd adder]

#1319061920510251028 message

[halcyon seal]

This changes every zen update 🤣

Cheff keeps up on our toes

[urban patrol]

Have there been any updates recently? To pineapple fried?

oh I guess there has. looking on git and reddit looks like the one i was using is deprecated

[urban patrol]

Is there anyway to make the findbar less transparent, sometimes on white bg it can be very hard to read

[odd adder]

Bottom find bar or natsumi find bar?

Either way yeah, but I'm not sure for the natsumi findbar

[urban patrol]

the natsumi findbar it can look like this:

Amazing work though! With pineapple

Are you able to turn off the pineapple findbar edits and just keep the natsumi?

[odd adder]

Yeah I am in the middle of reworking the whole natsumi tweaks

[steep raven]

my bar looks like this (dont mind the searches, im portuguese :D) and with the bookmarks at the bottom it looks bad, did i forget something?

and mica isnt working 😦

[urban patrol]

awesome!

[odd adder]

is natsumi installed?
Did you enable all the about:config options?

[swift kelp]

Aha, bro uses t3

[odd adder]

v2.0.0 is out!

https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/releases/tag/v2.0.0

Please report any new bugs you find

[frigid musk]

what's changed?

[odd adder]

fixed margin errors, added my own url bar animations, added hidden window controls, added new toggle to replace 3 dot menu button with zen logo

made zen web panel background blur native to PF

added some new about:config options for PF

PF is starting to stand on its own two legs, not needing natsumi, but there's still the natsumi-tweaks config option you can enable if you want to use PF with Natsumi

[steep raven]

I believe so, and yes I did enable it.

[thick sphinx]

Are there supposed to be two integrated-urlbar files?

[odd adder]

No, thanks for the catch

[twilit wyvern]

How to remove those black borders on essentials

[urban patrol]

Do you need mica to get the transparent new tab?

[odd adder]

i think this might be a natsumi compatibility thing. I don't have the borders when i don't use natsumi, so i'll probably have to update natsumi-tweaks. Would you mind throwing this into a new issue on the github page so I can track it?

[odd adder]

If you want to see your background through the browser, yes. If you don't, you'll still get a transparent looking new tab but you won't be able to see your background through the browser.

[frigid musk]

but is there an alternative to Mica besides setting contrast to 0 on mac?

[odd adder]

hm not totally sure for mac, i'm on windows. You don't need to set it all the way to 0, try somewhere in between maybe?

[frigid musk]

Oh okay, but is there a way to get websites transparent without mica tho?

[odd adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/zen_browser/comments/1ht1aa9/how_can_i_make_website_background_transparent_for/

[frigid musk]

tysm 😭

[urban patrol]

Ah ok I want the second option but it only shows up as a white page

[odd adder]

can you send a screenshot?

[urban patrol]

Sure,

Im not sure if I changed anything, because I remember it working for a while, and then it stopped oen day

[odd adder]

This doesn't look like the correct userContent.css. can you send a ss of that file?

[odd adder]

can you send a ss of the chrome folder?

[odd adder]

strange, can you try in a new profile?

[urban patrol]

yea Im not really sure either

[urban patrol]

I guess with dark mode, the logo shows up now:?

even though I enabled it earlier and it didnt work so idrk

[south venture]

lit 🔥

[frigid musk]

how did u disable the tab gradient?

[fluid schooner]

@odd adder you accidentally added an accent there

New update is great BTW! I was waiting for this

2 Things I'd love it to have:

1. Compatibility with Natsumi's floating side panels like History and Bookmarks.

2. Compatibility with Zen Minimal Exit Menu mod 😛 This one is a personal bias ofc

I want to use PF's menu-buttons so I got rid of the mod but look at this! I love how they get out of my way but the buttons look bad now

[fluid schooner]

Also this :(

[limber thicket]

am i stupid or does tab groups not work anymore?

[fluid schooner]

Not part of PF if I'm not wrong? You may be referring to Natsumi. Source: #1316928430767472650 message

[limber thicket]

i installed both, i followed the tutorials but it seems to be not working at all for me, but even then i still see the workplaces button in the sidebar too so i must have fucked up something i guess?

[fluid schooner]

Can you please tell me about the contents your chrome folder? Also, there are a few options you need to toggle in about:config. Did you add them in?

[odd adder]

In the install guide there's an updated section for mod settings which hides the workspace indicator.

[odd adder]

#1316928430767472650 message

[limber thicket]

Of course, sorry I forgot that. I have these downloaded from github today. Pineapple Fried 1.0 worked for me, but I saw 2.0 realeased and wanted to update it, saw it had the whole natsumi thing which was new to me, so I downloaded that followed the github stuff and noticed that the tab groups arent working

and yes I did change these in the config tab as well

[odd adder]

Nataumi disabled tab groups

[opal summit]

if you import this after Natsumi, itll disable it

starting to think I need to add this to the toucantweaks repo...

[frigid musk]

Tysm!

[odd adder]

If you have PF installed, there's a new config option to disable natsumi container gradients.

[opal summit]

in that case, i dont need to add it to toucantweaks haha

[odd adder]

yeah i just merged that implementation you gave me a week or so ago

[opal summit]

nice

i was hoping at some point either you or green would pick it up so i dont need to handle it myself anymore

[odd adder]

1. Maybe. It kinda goes directly against the design language of Cohesion. I'll play with it and see if I find something I like.

2. Possibly. I would need to dig in more when I have the time.

[odd adder]

You have natsumi installed? Looks like other css is setting custom button style on top of PF

[fluid schooner]

No, these are the native buttons. It's okay I guess, I can live with them lol

[odd adder]

native buttons don't look like that

[fluid schooner]

They have looked like that from the beginning

I'm on Linux BTW

[odd adder]

OHHH that makes way more sense. Breeze theme on KDE? I was assuming windows, my bad

PF doesn't theme the window control buttons, it just adds the auto hide functionality

so if you're on KDE, you should be able to install custom window decorations to get whatever buttons you want. There are a bunch of windows clones in the 'Get New Stuff' section for window decorations

[frigid musk]

TYSM

[pulsar lake]

the first line had me laughing so hard LMAO

[pulsar lake]

well now its Pineapple fried

[fluid schooner]

It's Gnome's customised version by Pop!_OS and I installed Tokyo Night Storm theme and added the cursor from Breeze

[lime surge]

im talking about natsumi

[thick sphinx]

How do I make searchbox text centered?

[odd adder]

Instally superurl mod and sent centered text to Always.

[thick sphinx]

I have it enabled,but it only works after searching

[odd adder]

Send ss of superurl settings?

[odd adder]

Ah okay. My mistake, superurl mod only centers the url text not the results. I'll see about adding it to the next update. Otherwise, install natsumi and enable Natsumi-tweaks in pf.

[fluid schooner]

There is a mod on zen mods store, you can use that

[ashen mountain]

i tried both and they don't do anything when i have this on

[solemn lance]

Hi, is anyone else experiencing lag when closing a tab?

[thick sphinx]

How do i fix this?

[humble geode]

is it normal that my browser looks like that ? Im lost guys

[white turtle]

Unrelated but what is the browser you are running on your phone?

[swift kelp]

Quetta

[white turtle]

Thanks a lot. Never seen a browser this neat in the Android world.

[swift kelp]

Yea it'a got some neat animations too

Feels smooth

[mortal locust]

How can I have all transparent tab pages like the home screen ??

[sharp orchid]

hi, how can i make the blur background darker
what css to change

[scenic heath]

Mica for everyone, guys

[sharp orchid]

yes i'm using that
i just need to make the blur effect a little darker
can i adjust that?

[scenic heath]

No, I don't think so, there are only the different presets

DWMBlurGlass is better

I just moved to it

[sharp orchid]

oh

better in what? performance or sum?

[tardy relic]

Whats up with the find page?

[lime surge]

its what happens when you decide to use natsumi/PF alongside another mod like better find bar that also modifies the findbar

[fluid schooner]

ah, then you'll need to look for custom CSS. If you want to do that, I would start reading this guide to enable live editing of custom css and then look at the code of those mods for better context.

[tardy relic]

thank you so much!

also is there any way to disable the findbar from opening whenever i press a random key?

[odd adder]

In Zen settings, uncheck ″start searching on the page when I type″

[tardy relic]

thank you soo much

[tawdry dirge]

I need help updating my theme to the lastest build, but I don't know how to carry over the modified CSS I have

[odd adder]

which files have you modified and what changes did you make? You might need to manually copy and paste the changes into the updated build after you install it.

[tawdry dirge]

I cannot remember, after I got it all set up, I never touched it again, I could send a copy of my chrome folder to be disected

[odd adder]

I don't really have time to track down your changes, you might want to save the modified files to your desktop and compare them to the new build files with something like https://text-compare.com/

[tawdry dirge]

ooh, thats cool! I shall give it a go

Oh dang, my CSS is way different from what is now, just in terms of files in general XD

[tawdry dirge]

Seems like I am still overall up to date, there is one strange thing I have tho

[odd adder]

this on essentials?

[tawdry dirge]

Yep

[odd adder]

mine are not like that, there's likely some conflicting modifications.

are you throwing everything into one userChrome file or are you using the normal PF file structure?

[tawdry dirge]

Here is my chrome folder

[odd adder]

yeah that's the wrong structure.

Everything should be contained inside the Pineapple Fried Folder, the only change you need to make is adding the import rule to userChrome.css to enable PF.

[tawdry dirge]

That issue was actually happening before I added the pineapple fried file, but I could adjust it and see what happens, I do need to get sleep, so I'll do that when I get time

[tawdry dirge]

Wait, what's the import rule

[odd adder]

https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried?tab=readme-ov-file#1-userchromecss

[scenic heath]

How do you get file explorer transparent like that?

[tawdry dirge]

https://files.community/

[scenic heath]

Oh, it's that

[tawdry dirge]

It's really nice

[unique sleet]

how do you get it to look like that

the pinned tabs

ohh theyre essentials

ic

[tawdry dirge]

@odd adder How does this look

Huh

Fixed all the issues

[tawdry dirge]

@odd adder I cant remember how do make web pages transparent, how do I do that again? I completely refreshed my chrome folder

[tawdry dirge]

I figured out the tab groups, and now I have fallen in love

[tawdry dirge]

Not sure if this is a known issue, but there is a strange issue when I go into fullscreen, on the top and left, there is a strange bit of the browser just chilling there

[odd adder]

you have to make a style rule for each website within userContext. There's a few rules that try to apply to every website but they are not perfect and end up breaking a few things. Essentially you'll want to set the website background element to like #00000000 or rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)

[tawdry dirge]

Thanks! I actually did end up finding the code I used for it

[odd adder]

this is a bug with PF right now, i've noticed this too lately. Next PF update is going to be The Margins update 2: electric boogaloo

[tawdry dirge]

Awesome! It's rather obnoxious

[tardy relic]

How can I change the colour of the URL bar thingy?

also how do I change the speed of the urlbar animation?

@odd adder

[vocal compass]

here (settings -> look & feel)

[opal summit]

is there any way to change it depending on the workspace? I have the “use workspace colors as primary color” checked but it doesnt seem to effect the url bar color. Im assuming thatd require more than just css, maybe js, but thought id ask

[tardy relic]

makes sense, tysm

and the urlbar speed?

[vocal compass]

i have no clue .-. (the other thing i found out accidentaly)

isnt thta natsumi urlbar?

[odd adder]

Natsumi-tweaks.css change values in here for urlbar speed.

[tawdry dirge]

ooh, how did you get it to look like that

[fluid schooner]

Natsumi theme

#1316928430767472650

[tawdry dirge]

Got it! it used to have an animaton where they popped out like this screenshot from the github, how do I get that back

[fluid schooner]

Two possibilities:

1. The author removed it
2. You have disabled the urlbar animation from about:config

Searching "natsumi" in config should show you if the latter is true

I have natsumi and I don't even remember if the animation is still there 💀

[tawdry dirge]

they are all on exept for tab groubs, probably disabled it in the latest build

[lime surge]

its still there

[tawdry dirge]

oh?

[fluid schooner]

Just checked myself, as beautiful as day one and still there

[lime surge]

unless you have natsumi.urlbar.light, natsumi shouldnt remove animations

might be PF removing them

[tawdry dirge]

probably, I will check that

[tawdry dirge]

BTW, great job at making your code nice and easy to understand

[fluid schooner]

My guess is the same. PF overrides a lot of things in Natsumi. The navbar and window area's cohesive look is incredible but some things kept breaking leading me to drop it until I find time to fix the issues

[tawdry dirge]

Is this the line I am looking for?

@lime surge is that what enables that animation?

or do I need the whole CSS file

[lime surge]

might be better to edit natsumi tweaks than natsumi itself

[tawdry dirge]

Just trying to learn how it works and what code to impliment in PF

[karmic shell]

Can someone explain how to set this up? I followed the github guide and it just looks default

[odd adder]

Nataumi-tweaks config option needs to be enabled for natsumi style animations to apply. Natsumi-tweaks holds the altered animation timings.

[tawdry dirge]

Ok! How do I re-enable the animation?

[odd adder]

All you should have to do is enable natsumi-tweaks config option.

[tawdry dirge]

ok

[tawdry dirge]

It is enabled

[frank wigeon]

@odd adder, I am really enjoying Pineapple fried with Natsumi as a skin, I was wondering if you know how to disable the white glow effect that it gives on the floating url bar and the find bar etc. I am also curious if there is a way to change my primary colour to a grey or monotone colour rather than the stock options that zen gives you, thanks

[odd adder]

I did this before but have forgotten which var in Natsumi controls this. I'll dig in a bit this week to find out. You could also ask in the natsumi thread. Once we know what is needed I can add it to Natsumi-Tweaks for easier configuration.

[odd adder]

are you still not seeing animations even with n-t enabled?

[tawdry dirge]

No I'm not

[odd adder]

send ss of userChrome.css

[opal summit]

The natsumi thread is still locked, green is taking a break

[odd adder]

good to know, i'll see how much I can help people with Qs

[odd adder]

that's not userChrome.css that's Natsumi-Tweaks.css

[tawdry dirge]

ahhh, mb

[dim cloak]

hey, I've seen that you can put the tabs in folders. How do you do that? or is it an extension

[odd adder]

It's still experimental and not recommended, it breaks things.

Zen will get them implemented soon enough, just waiting for Firefox to make them stable.

[odd adder]

ok no wonder. your userChrome has a lot of extra crap in it, and I don't see the @import rule for Natsumi.

looks like you have the Arc command bar in place, which as far as i'm aware isn't compatible with natsumi animations

[tawdry dirge]

It looks like it has it to me from the screenshot on its github

[odd adder]

Regardless, you're still not @importing natsumi so you aren't getting any custom styles or animations.

[tawdry dirge]

Ohhh ok

[tawdry dirge]

So, take out the arc thing, and add those?

[odd adder]

yeah. The arc thing isn't related to either PF or Natsumi

[tawdry dirge]

Im gonna ignore the new tabs one because I like being able have a traditional new tab

added the natsumi import rule, still no animations

[odd adder]

did you restart the browser?

[tawdry dirge]

Yes

[odd adder]

wanna hop in vc and share your screen?

[tawdry dirge]

sure

[lime surge]

fix your indents please 😭

[odd adder]

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-lilo-and-stitch-who-do-you-think-you-are-ignore-when-youre-better-than-everyone-else-gif-12002005453424523419

[lime surge]

i will break natsumi tweaks for 2.5.8 :)
-# /j

[odd adder]

Lol I ain't got time for that 🤣 hopefully some clean up and additions this weekend. I don't get how people like you and cheff can pump out updates like you do. Just built different

[lime surge]

fine

ill do it myself

done

[odd adder]

*I meant I ain't got time to rework nt if you broke it, not being snotty to you

[lime surge]

pr made

oh lmaoooooo

i actually fixed your indents tho

its in a pr

[odd adder]

Already merged lol

[frank wigeon]

I managed to find it in the end but thank you. Another question, in your GitHub post for Pineapple Fried, you recommend using the midnight mod to fix the transparency issue on websites but this mod doesn't seem to work anymore, is there another workaround?

[odd adder]

Dark Reader

[frank wigeon]

Thanks

[cerulean rose]

@odd adder I have a poblem, how can i use cohesion in zen browser

i don't know why i did not get transparent background

[vocal compass]

set this to true in about:config

(if you have mfe)

[cerulean rose]

i dont have it

i cant download it

[vocal compass]

are you win 10?

[cerulean rose]

bc im win 10

yes

[vocal compass]

ah

blur (transparency) dosen't work with windows 10 :/

[cerulean rose]

Can i use that for zen? https://github.com/Maplespe/DWMBlurGlass

[vocal compass]

zen twilight has an acrylic background that gives sometransparency

you can try using that

[vocal compass]

that won't work either

[cerulean rose]

ok

[cerulean rose]

i will try that

[quasi remnant]

Just get win 11 bro 💔

[vocal compass]

stobid system req is a bit annoying but if your pc runs windows 10 fine

bypassing the requirements for windows 11 isn't a big problem

[cerulean rose]

i cant

I have i7 7th gen

[vocal compass]

im on 3rd gen i5 lol

windows 11 works just fine

[quasi remnant]

Bypass

[vocal compass]

just bypass teh requirements using rufus (etching to usb)

[cerulean rose]

But

Do i will lose my data in my laptop?

[vocal compass]

data as in apps or folders and personal files?

[cerulean rose]

Everything

if i can keep folders and personal files it will be good

[vocal compass]

if you have splitted your ssd/hdd into 2 or more drives

you can format just the windows drive

and keep your folders and files

but you will lose apps

[cerulean rose]

Oh

But

[vocal compass]

holy shit

a 4tb hdd?

cool

[cerulean rose]

Lol

Yeah

[vocal compass]

anyways if you only have windows

[cerulean rose]

External

[vocal compass]

and apps

on C drive

then you can format just teh c drive

install windows 11

and not

touch the other drives (D & F)

[cerulean rose]

Hmm...

Good

[vocal compass]

just be carefull if you are doing it

i was not

i formatted my hdd

instead of ssd

[cerulean rose]

I know

[fluid schooner]

Hey Wazz, how you doing? I was wondering if you know how to get the blur working on Zen KWin Better Blur on KDE.

[past barn]

what are these ugly borders? natsumi issue but any fix yet?

[swift kelp]

Why ask here

[high wigeon]

will a macos version ever be made for? because i just installed pineapple fried and it doesn't work on mac

[frigid musk]

I’m on Mac and was using pf before I’m sure it works on Mac

[swift kelp]

It's just custom css

There's no os limit here

[fluid schooner]

Can't have full screen with only PF installed

[high wigeon]

im not getting the homepage properly. im getting the firefox background, and the transparency doesn't work.

il play around with the configs a bit and see

[fluid schooner]

Have you imported the pages css in userContent?

[high wigeon]

yes i have imported the user content css

this is what it looks like

[spark thistle]

Well yeah, if you're using a background image then ofc it won't show lmao

[high wigeon]

my bad. i just clicked reset to default

[spark thistle]

lul

[high wigeon]

i thought the background was removed by css

this is so much better.

[fluid schooner]

Tip: You can play around with the texture slider in theme colour customisation

[high wigeon]

i got this through linear gradient

[fluid schooner]

Such a good feature

[high wigeon]

is there a way to get the search bar back. i made mine transparent, and i think it will look good

[fluid schooner]

You could but as soon as you type something in there, it will open the url bar

One might as well not have it and directly type in the URL bar. I tried just now

Doesn't even look that good imo personally

[high wigeon]

i just played with the css a bit, and you are right. it looks like shit

[idle kestrel]

someone can help me with the tab folders in the screenshot? I am done with everything but I do not understand how to have that tab folders enabled. I think they are not tab groups, because tab groups look really weird.

[fluid schooner]

They are indeed tab groups but with custom styling. I'm not 100% sure if that styling is part of Pineapple Fried. Natsumi used to have that but the dev recently dropped it temporarily since Zen and Firefox don't fully support it yet.

[vapid peak]

i applied this but cannot get rid of this bar beneath the url bar. kidnly help

[past barn]

how did you get that much blur

wow

[vapid peak]

mica for everyone

[high wigeon]

i think you have to disable bookmark toolbar

[tardy relic]

Ctrl+Shift+b

[vocal compass]

that is twilight bug

[vapid peak]

tried tha

the bookmark bar disappears but its space still remains

[vocal compass]

try now after updating

its fixed

[vapid peak]

tried. its fixed now!

[odd adder]

Sorry been afk for a few days. I′m not sure off the top of my head but I'm down to schedule a quick screen-share session.

[odd adder]

This has been bothering me too, I need to make an update

[fluid schooner]

Oh, I hope you're doing well! I've dropped the idea of blur windows for the time being. I appreciate it though Maybe when I've settled down on KDE for real

[fluid schooner]

Will be waiting for that one for sure

[fluid schooner]

@odd adder Hey, it looks like the Midnight mod has been taken down from the store. I don't see it

[odd adder]

Midnight was just a color theme mod, didn't add any functionality

[fluid schooner]

Ah, I forgot to mention it's in the readme of PF. That's the reason I gave you a heads up, I don't use it personally

[frigid musk]

Has anyone found a way to make the natsumi pdf viewer background transparent? Just thought its a nice concept

[stray drift]

same question! i can only find the container tab, which is not my intention

[fluid schooner]

@idle kestrel@stray driftTab folders are an experimental feature. The screenshot does show tab folders but

1. It used to be a part of Natsumi, not a part of core Pineapple Fried.
2. Tab folder styling was removed from Natsumi in one of the previous updates so you won't get the same look with Natsumi anymore even if you enable the feature. Zen's dev Cheff does not recommend enabling this feature either until Firefox gets it. Reason being Zen is based on Firefox. Firefox delaying the feature = Zen delaying the feature (inevitably)

[tardy relic]

Whats up with the url menu

[frigid musk]

prob the update broke it

[lime surge]

update your natsumi

[tardy relic]

ight ty

[weary oriole]

Working Cohesion fix for lastest Twilight version
here is the very simple code that you should add at the end of your usercontent.css

/* Navbar with Slightly Softer Blur */
#nav-bar {
    background: rgba(105, 100, 110, 0.22) !important; /* Color stays perfect */
        -moz-appearance: -moz-mac-vibrancy-light !important;
}

/* Slightly Softer URL Bar Background */
#urlbar-background {
    background: rgba(105, 100, 110, 0.23) !important; /* Transparency fine-tuned */
    backdrop-filter: blur(30px) !important; /* A bit more blur for smoother transition */
}

/* Keep Text Perfectly Readable */
#urlbar {
    color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.98) !important; /* No change, since readability is ideal */
}```

[odd adder]

I wouldn't call this a Cohesion fix, Cohesion only focuses on the sidebars. This looks like a nice personal preference tweak.

[weary oriole]

it fixes the url bar color to make it match home tab because zen twilight made home tab brighter

i have the same css on zen (normal) and twilight

on normal version i don't need this

but on twlight, i don't know why, but i need these tweaks to make it work properly

[odd adder]

Which is cool and helpful, just not related to Cohesion specifically? Can you send a comparison before/after?

[weary oriole]

yes

still having an issue but not related to cohesion, and also this fix can maybe made better, it makes it match almost perfectly but it isn't perfect, hope it's only temporary 😭

ok here is the before/after

after :

before :

btw if someone knows how to resolve this issue, that would be awesome, i need to make the url-bar move of one px left i guess ?

[odd adder]

Ah i see now! Thanks for bringing this up. Likely just need to adjust some color values in Cohesion.css

[odd adder]

Interesting, what version of PF are you on? This was address in an update

[high wigeon]

there is a bug in the natsumi-tweaks for the sidebar(history/bookmark) where it is fully transparent and text isn't visible when on white background. i was able to fix this but i still have this wierd part that is still too transparent

[weary oriole]

i made sure i was using the lastest version today

[high wigeon]

i wasn't able to fix that corner part

[weary oriole]

updated to lastest natsumi and been using lastest pf

but i have this issue since a long time

but not sure if it's related to cohesion

[high wigeon]

@odd adder will pineapple fried make background for 1.8 since there is no new tab open by default

[fluid schooner]

No matter how many times natsumi breaks PF, I find myself coming back to the top notch cohesive nav bar

[lime surge]

@odd adder you might want to consider working on PF on zen twilight with the dev branch of natsumi

this way you can write compatibility fixes for PF ahead of the next zen/natsumi release

[odd adder]

Elaborate? What do you mean by ″make background″ ?

[odd adder]

Yeah definitely need to do that, still getting back into the swing of things

[weary oriole]

@odd adder fixed the url bar margin

in multiple toolbar cohesion code, it was written :
#tabbrowser-tabpanels {
margin-left: -1px !important;
margin-right: 0px !important;
}

I just changed margin left to 0px and voilà

#tabbrowser-tabpanels {
margin-left: 0px !important;
margin-right: 0px !important;
}

[high wigeon]

if you want the cohesion background, you need to type about:home in urlbar

you need a new tab for it

this became a problem after 1.8b

[odd adder]

I'm not sure if I understand still. Zen recently got rid of ″New Tabs″ so if you want them back you just have to enable them in about:config

[high wigeon]

i have the config enabled, so then i pressed newtab, it opened the urlbar. but before 1.8b there used to be a newtab open by default if there were no other tabs open. so you would still get the cohesion background. now there is no tab open by default.

[high wigeon]

so the zen logo and svg in the second image wont appear if all tabs are closed. i was asking if they would be added to the first image which has no tabs open

[odd adder]

Ah thanks for clarifying, yes this should be easily done.

[high wigeon]

nice

[tawdry dirge]

@odd adder Something broke with the mods on the lastest build of them with the 1.8 beta update

[odd adder]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-shocked-eye-pop-big-eyes-gif-15244901

[tawdry dirge]

Here is what is looks like when I launch the browser right now with the mods

[tawdry dirge]

I think the core issue is with the Cleaned URL bar and Super URL bar mods

[weary oriole]

works fine for me on lastest twilight version

[lime surge]

update your natsumi 😭

[tawdry dirge]

I just copy these folders, right?

[lime surge]

yep

[tawdry dirge]

oh, and the natsumi config file?

[lime surge]

if you want to

its not required

[tawdry dirge]

ok, ill copy it since my chrome folder has it

[lime surge]

if theres missing variables in your config file then natsumi will use the defaults

[tawdry dirge]

lots still broken

[lime surge]

thats either super url bar or cohesion

idk

[tawdry dirge]

I think its Super URL bar and Cleaned URL bar, since the latter is what is causing the URL bar to be in such an odd spot

but for the boot thing, I have no idea

[tardy relic]

Could also be Floating URL bar if you have it, because thats what turned out to be the issue for me

[delicate marlin]

holy crap cohesion and natsumi look so good rn

the only gripe that i have that idk which is buggin is the transparency but i lowkey dig having a more simple look now

[spark thistle]

That might be because of the acrylic effect Zen has now, you can disable it but I don't remember how off the top of my head

some about:config flag

[delicate marlin]

i would but im lowkey too lazy too now

i kinda like this effect

just wish they made there a way to make it a bit more transparent natively

[tawdry dirge]

zen.widget.windows.acrylic

[ancient solstice]

when pineapple update, bro

[deep glen]

Any way to fix this broken url bar? Even pinned extensions refuse to show

[deep glen]

made a new profile to test and now this is what I get

is this a bug?

[tawdry dirge]

I am starting to wonder the same thing, like, Natsumi got updated within hours of v1.8, and PF has been taking days

[odd adder]

It'll be updated when I am not busy with my real job and wedding planning

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[tawdry dirge]

Ah, gotcha. Also, congrats on the marriage!

[odd adder]

Tyty!

[fluid schooner]

AYO

Congratulations man! Wish you all the best!

[lime surge]

congrats

[urban patrol]

Congratulations!

[lime surge]

reminds me i still have yet to marry my gf 😭

but either way me and her are still married in spirit

[odd adder]

That's how we′ve been for about 6 years now

[high wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-congrats-leonardo-dicaprio-gif-18356553678190414803

[tawdry dirge]

@odd adder I got the centered bookmarks working

[fluid schooner]

After I sent this message, someone other than mr. wazz also reacted to my message. I couldn't help but wonder if that person was the spouse-to-be. Right now, the message has 3 reactions in total so does that mean mr. wazz rizzed up two people?

(by all means, it is a joke for our guy about to be married)

[odd adder]

Lol my spouse thinks all this browser stuff is nerdy lol so unfortunately they are not in the server 😅

[tawdry dirge]

I mean, are they wrong??

[fluid schooner]

I'll be honest with ya, they're not completely wrong

[fluid schooner]

Okay I had not read that until now

[tawdry dirge]

lmao

[odd adder]

Its true. She's always asking ″who are you talking to?″ and I'm like ″people that want software updates″ lol

[lime surge]

lmao

[fluid schooner]

🤣🤣🤣

Oh man, my morning is good now

[faint apex]

how

not the look as expected

[faint apex]

for a mili second whats that fluctuation its trying to load new tab theme?

[vague phoenix]

why doesn't it just show the home page on new tab?

[swift kelp]

Zen Update

[swift kelp]

Yes, when there's some customization or mods involved

[vague phoenix]

wdym? i am already on the latest release.

[fluid schooner]

This is a new feature with came with latest Zen update.

/newtab

[radiant quarry]

The new Zen URL bar now acts as a replacement for newtabs. Please read more here https://docs.zen-browser.app/user-manual/urlbar/

[south venture]

anyone knows why transparency is now not fully visible

[faint apex]

why I dont have back button like the theme ?

[odd adder]

Zen changed default forward/backward button styles

[faint apex]

so your ss is from older version
mine is 1.8.2b

[faint apex]

anyway to fix this its very annoying when i use it as daily driver still have to use edge just to avoid this flickring

[odd adder]

Correct

[faint apex]

is this how your theme supose to look like I enabled every option found on github Natsumi and Pineapple docs

[faint apex]

and here is my Css

[odd adder]

It still needs to be updated for 1.8b

[faint apex]

this section is weird lmao rest is usable

[faint apex]

hey can you give me the code for pf.use.window-buttons
and
pf.use.zen-menu-button for this configration need to manually add these to my personal use version

[odd adder]

I dont mean to be rude, but all of the code is available on the Github, its fairly organized and not too difficult to track things down. I'm at my IRL job and dont really have time to track down stuff right now

[faint apex]

oh thanks ill try to find the thing by my own i hope its well documented

[odd adder]

Should be in windowcontrols.css

[faint apex]

this is helpful

[delicate marlin]

Does anyone know how to fix this? Basically all the borders are a bit messed up so is there a wya to fix this?

[faint apex]

Anyone know how to achieve this gap between search icon and Text

[deep glen]

lmk as well if somebody finds the fix

[odd adder]

This is gonna require a proper update, as I need to set custom values for split tabs views specifically

[delicate marlin]

Ohhhv alr

[thick sphinx]

Waiting for the update!!

[onyx lark]

my url bar broke

did anyone faced the same issue

its not completelely blur

[tawdry dirge]

wait, how did you get internal pages to blur?

The natsumi animation is a little strange, doesn't bother me too much, but thought id share

[lime surge]

yeah cheff broke shit again

i fixed it already

[tawdry dirge]

I'll update tonight, also, what's going on with Wazz? He's been MIA for bit now

[odd adder]

Lurking, and dealing with real life stuff. Wedding planning and house renovations

Currently knee deep in building a deck

[tawdry dirge]

Ah, okie!

[tawdry dirge]

Damn

[vapid fulcrum]

how do you get the workspace sliders on ur side bar? ive seen so many people have it but dont know how

[tawdry dirge]

I don't remember

[onyx lark]

Zen Zero by sameerasw

use his userContent file

[tawdry dirge]

Ah

[onyx lark]

can someone help me with this

[fluid schooner]

Time to jump on that fence and say hi to wazz, personally

I hope everything's going well there!

[opal summit]

time to track down wazz's house based on the clouds in the sky and the type of paint on the wall in order to personally thank him for his zen theme

[delicate marlin]

WEDDING? WOW

good for you dude

[onyx lark]

bookmark icon unaligned with the indicator

[lime surge]

zen issue

[onyx lark]

how to hide it ??

so only the indicator will appear

it all get listed as page action buttons

idk how to hide them seperately

[onyx lark]

tab group theme bro

why mine look sucks

[swift kelp]

It's the default one

Tab groups are not advised to be used

Wait until native Firefox tab group release

[tawdry dirge]

[tawdry dirge]

Is this an issue with MCA, or something to do with how Zen, or the custom CSS interacts with it

[lime surge]

zen

also @odd adder just a heads up, natsumi v3 will likely break natsumi tweaks

ik youve got a big day coming up so take your time

[odd adder]

Hopefully this next coming weekend ill have ample time to cook and update everything. Its my first weekend in a while that I haven't had anything planned.

To everyone waiting for updates, thank you for your patience 🙏 This community is what makes theming Zen so fun and I appreciate you all. Ill try to get something out in the coming week!

[fluid schooner]

Take your time and enjoy yourself!

[odd adder]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

Me cracking open the PF repo ready to vibe hard with Claude

[high wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lion-king-lion-king-monkey-talking-rafiki-gif-17580008

[midnight shard]

are those pinned tabs on top and essentials at bottom?

[odd adder]

Yes

[midnight shard]

what mod did you use?

to make pinned tabs look like essentials

[odd adder]

SuperPins

and i used Bottom Essentials to move the essentials

[midnight shard]

superpins don't have 3 in row, mine goes to 5 in row

so asking

[odd adder]

You might have other items in your sidebar making the sidebar too wide for 3 across

PF 2.1

Currently in the oven. This is on 1.10.1t.

[midnight shard]

i don't think i got what you meant

you're on twilight build?

[odd adder]

yeah. What's your superPins spacing settings?

[midnight shard]

everything's default

i just toggled, make pinned tabs look like essetial option

[odd adder]

it's either the number of workspaces forcing the sidebar to not be any smaller, or the icons above the url bar. Note that I'm in multi toolbar mode with only 3 workspaces so i can make my sidebar very small

[midnight shard]

do you use any customcss for pins too?, cus yours are bigger than mine
i'm on natsumi tho, maybe because of that?

[odd adder]

possibly. The video i just posted is stock PF without natsumi

[midnight shard]

i see, thanks

sorry for the inconvinience

[high wigeon]

did you all read the message on natsumi

@odd adder what is the fate of PF now?

[odd adder]

Ill have an official response soon. PF isn't going anywhere.

[high wigeon]

nice

but if natsumi isn't maintained, how exactly will it work

[odd adder]

More details later

[odd adder]

If you have not heard, Natsumi is being archived and no longer being updated. Natsumi is an incredible piece of work and PF would not have existed without it. Natsumi will be missed, huge thanks to Green.

But what does this mean for Pineapple Fried?

Ill be extracting my personal selection of Natsumi features from the final build and including them in Natsumi-Tweaks, a module for PF. This does not mean ill be extracting all features or styles. I do not plan to make any derivative works of or continue building Natsumi.

This will likely be the last update for Natsumi Tweaks, unless I find something else in the Natsumi archive I want to also extract for PF.

The PF theme is going to continue getting updates, I'm currently polishing the update for 1.10.1b.

Please help by replying with your favorite Natsumi feature and Ill see about adding them to PF-NT.

[high wigeon]

urlbar, findbar, pip, mini player, sidebar, sidepanel, pdf viewer

and i played with the haze material in preloads, for sidebar and it fits PF

[woeful bay]

100% agree

[high wigeon]

honestly there is probably more, that i am unaware of

[woeful bay]

yeah if there was a way to implement all of natsumi features that would be great lol

[high wigeon]

like small theming things that i forgot was a part of natsumi

[woeful bay]

true true

[woeful bay]

when i updated to natsumi 3.0.1, the workspace indicators which had been collapsed into dots don't do that anymore; any way to fix this?

[high wigeon]

same

idk how i got the dot, but i cant find it

idk if it is a part of natsumi or not

[woeful bay]

i think the dot is from zen 1.10.1

it said in the release notes

but i'm not sure which part of natsumi is changing it

[high wigeon]

i removed the natsumi workspace strip css

[high wigeon]

so this means natsumi didn't remove it

[woeful bay]

which file is that in?

[high wigeon]

natsumi-base.css

[woeful bay]

thanks!

yeah i'm not sure why the dots aren't showing up now

my sidebar is huge now lmao

[high wigeon]

i didn't remove the entire file. just the pare under workspaces

[woeful bay]

did the dots show up for you?

[high wigeon]

no

[odd adder]

I belive the dots were a Zen feature that got removed

[woeful bay]

that's interesting

i updated to 1.10.1 this morning, and the collapsed workspace indicator was there

then i updated to natsumi 3.0.1, and the dots disappeared, so i'm not sure of what happened

[odd adder]

Hm I'd need to test on a fresh profile to see for sure

[woeful bay]

alright

btw i'm probably switching to pineapple fried soon haha i can't wait!

[fair dome]

Why does ya'lls browser looks so much more transparent and bright mine looks dull. Did I do smth wrong? I followed the natsumi github then the pf github exactly as it said

[deep glen]

wait for PF to be upadated

it hasn't been updated for a long time

currently it is under progress

[fair dome]

oh ok thanks

[high wigeon]

lower contrast

[odd adder]

hey chat, keep default window control button icons, or make some custom ones for PF?

[opal summit]

personally, i think the default ones work well

[woeful bay]

@odd adder any luck with the workspace dots?

[odd adder]

you do want the dots? currently this is how PF will look

[woeful bay]

or at least i liked how they collapsed so my sidebar got smaller

that does look good tho!

see the collapse thing?

[high wigeon]

mr.wazz

check you these 2 css

an tab/essential rgb thing

and an animatied zen logo👇

this is the svg👇

both are from nebula, but i dont think they were inplimented

[odd adder]

can you send examples in screenshots or screen recordings?

[high wigeon]

the rgb tabs

[odd adder]

Woah, fancy af but probably out of scope for PF.

[feral kiln]

people be putting rgb on everything

[high wigeon]

the animated zen logo

this is good for PF

if you need more info on this one☝️

you have to ask @patent spear

[odd adder]

What screen recorder are you using?

[tulip current]

Frfr

[high wigeon]

mac os quicktime player. it is built in

also the zen logo css goes in userContent btw

and it has a small bug where it doesn't let you scroll through preferences or about config

like it wont scroll down

[ancient solstice]

@lila_uraraka you can share css

[woeful bay]

@odd adder i found the collapsing workspace indicators on a new profile; its just a new feature because i didn't do anything to the new profile, so something about natsumi must be interfering

in the video i add a few workspaces to show the collapsing

[ancient solstice]

how

[high wigeon]

i already shared the css

just scroll up a little

[high wigeon]

shared this one aswell

[high wigeon]

the first css is the rgb. the second is the logo(userContent), and the third is the svg for the logo

[ancient solstice]

does it boost gpu ?

[ancient solstice]

add svg where

[high wigeon]

into the chrome file

[high wigeon]

no it is just aesthetic

[midnight shard]

I really don't get the appeal of RGB, isn't simple colors better?

@odd adder sorry for the ping but since now natsumi is deprecated do we still need to install natsumi to make PF work?

I'm thinking of trying it but don't know if I should install natsumi or not?

[odd adder]

Currently I'm making a final update to Natsumi-Tweaks which will have some Natsumi features and will not require Natsumi to be installed.

If you want the Natsumi Styles, then yes you'll need to install the Archived Natsumi theme.

[woeful bay]

@odd adder any way to keep the collapse as an option?

[odd adder]

uh probably, just haven't looked at it very closely. Would you mind opening a new issue on the Github so I can track it? I don't think it's going to make it into the very next update, I'm mostly just focusing on compatibility for 1.10.1 and Natsumi-Tweaks. But after that point I can start adding QOL things and extras like collapsed workspace icons

[woeful bay]

sure!

[high wigeon]

@odd adder can you try to make a seperate haze conponent for natsumi's floating ff-sidebar

these values looks good for the ff-sidebar, but makes everyting look wierd

this is what i changed it to in natsimi>modules>preloads. feel free to make it a bit darker(0.2 at max is good)

[median maple]

@odd adderHow did you use that grouping in the tabs ?

[high wigeon]

this is want it looks like with the change btw

[woeful bay]

added the issue! 👍

[lime surge]

it looks off

haze is meant to be a white/black material with a tint of the background color

not another glass material

[high wigeon]

that is due to this css from tanay-kar

/* === BLUR COMPACT SIDEBAR === */
/* Based on code by https://github.com/Tanay-Kar */

:root[zen-compact-mode="true"] {
  #navigator-toolbox #titlebar {
    @media (-moz-bool-pref: "lacuna.sidebar.compact-transparent") {
      background: light-dark(#99999944,#00000044) !important;
    }
    border: none !important;
  }
  #navigator-toolbox:not(:has(#urlbar[zen-floating-urlbar='true'][open])) #titlebar {
    backdrop-filter: blur(10px) !important;
  }
}

#"Zen"-sidebar-web-panel {
  background: light-dark(#00000022, #00000044) !important;
  backdrop-filter: blur(40px) !important;
}

[lime surge]

you do NOT need extra css for that if youre using natsumi/PF

with materials enabled for ff sidebar

[high wigeon]

honestly i dont remember why i added this css 😅

[lime surge]

[high wigeon]

so this effect can occur without it?

[lime surge]

yeah

[high wigeon]

wait no

[high wigeon]

this is for the normal sidebar blur

this blur

[high wigeon]

i think i got that affect with just the haze modification

i desabled the natsumi-tweaks that affect the ff-sidebar

[high wigeon]

just removed all my other css and checked, and the effect is from natsumi haze modifications alone

[lime surge]

maybe use 0.8 instead of 0.15???

[high wigeon]

it is 0.8 by default

i prefer it like this

[high wigeon]

making it 0.125 was the modification i made

[lime surge]

well dont

use glass instead of haze then

[high wigeon]

then i get that problem i told you about on github

[lime surge]

then dont modify the thing ffs

[high wigeon]

il see if i can get the effect without modification, but i wasn't able to last time

[high wigeon]

is the glass material only used by the ff-sidebar?

[lime surge]

no

[high wigeon]

or anything else

[high wigeon]

what else is it used for

[lime surge]

zen web panels

pdf viewer

and anything else that hasnt moved to haze yet

or still uses glass for whatever reason

[high wigeon]

aight

[lime surge]

most elements shouldve moved to mc or hz

[midnight shard]

thanks, but natsumi breaks on latest zen update
also sorry for the late reply just saw your message

[odd adder]

With natsumi discontinued, it will likely break with future Zen updates so not much we can do there. I'm not going to be updating any Natsumi Styles, just main features like the URL animations and PDF page.

[opal summit]

Haven't you heard? Natsumi is undiscontinued

Re-continued? Continued?

No longer discontinued

[spark thistle]

discontinuedn't

[midnight shard]

Just one doubt, if I don't use natsumi what do I get, like do I get those animations and stuff?

[midnight shard]

https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/blob/main/README.md#installation

is this outdated?

cuz I just git cloned the project and moved it to the ../chrome directory

should prolly say this but natsumi was also not working

[tawdry dirge]

For now, Wazz has been dealing with a lot of IRL stuff recently, he will be updating it soon, when he has time

[midnight shard]

cool, thanks for heads up

[tawdry dirge]

Resurrected

[tardy relic]

How do I do that?

[tawdry dirge]

I am trying to install kwin-effects-forceblur on Nobara, but I just keep getting error after error

I think I figured it out

[tawdry dirge]

This is so annoying

[tawdry dirge]

@lime surge I need help getting Zen transparent on KDE Plasma

I got it

[restive burrow]

How do you have folders and slightly colored tabs?

[odd adder]

Current state of PF development at the moment

[tawdry dirge]

I think the slightly colored tabs are just Firefox containers

[tawdry dirge]

KITTY!

[restive burrow]

Oh, okay, thanks

[odd adder]

@here

Pineapple Fried v2.1.0 is out!

Sorry for the long wait. Love you all.
https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/releases/tag/v2.1.0

[tawdry dirge]

Wait, why was Natsumi support dropped? Just curious, I have it in my chrome folder along this, and it works fine

[odd adder]

Natsumi-tweaks was dropped just as a maintenance thing. Frankly, I cant keep up with Green′s lightning quick updates. Community members are welcome to use the last version of n-t if they want support moving forward. But I will not be updating n-t going forward.

[tawdry dirge]

fair enough, he does update very frequently, though it is good to know they can co exist like I have them

[thick sphinx]

Cohesion isn't working.Is there anything else I need to enable in config?

[odd adder]

Did you add the pf import rule to your userchrome?

[thick sphinx]

Nope..lemme try

[thick sphinx]

nope didnt work

[odd adder]

Well you need the pf import rule regardless. Did you restart zen after adding the import rule? Mind sending a ss of your userchrome?

[thick sphinx]

Yup

[odd adder]

Yeah that path looks incorrect. Why is there a pf/ at the beginning? Did you put it in a subfolder in your chrome folder?

[odd adder]

Try removing the pf/ from the beginning of that path

[thick sphinx]

here is the chrome folder

[odd adder]

Yeah just remove the beginning pf/ from the path and that should fix it

[thick sphinx]

still doesnt work

[odd adder]

Did you restart zen after changing the path?

Im a little tied up at work for a bit but I'm happy to hop in the vc for a screenshare to figure this out once I have some down time today.

[thick sphinx]

dont worry, i'll try reinstalling it

It used to work on windows...its just that im new to this os

[odd adder]

What OS? Looks gnome-ish

[thick sphinx]

fedora

[odd adder]

Any luck?

[thick sphinx]

Tried it on windows today..no luck here too

[odd adder]

can you open the style browser and search for pineapple-fried.css ?

I want to see the contents of that file

[onyx lily]

you mean this separator?

i have it too on default pineapple fried

but i remove it the white tint remover option from transparent zen mod

[deep glen]

Does anybody else have this issue aswell? Disabled all my extensions and Zen Mods before recording.
There seems to be a weird border that surrounds the left and top part of a video when in fullscreen.

[thick sphinx]

how do i do that?

[odd adder]

Known issue, tracked on github

[odd adder]

This is not default behavior for pf, there is probably a config error somewhere.

[odd adder]

• F12 to open the Page Inspector
• F1 to open Inspector settings
• Check the box for "remote debugging" near the bottom right
• close Page inspector
• Ctrl+Shift+Alt+i
• Accept debugging warning
• Select Style Browser tab at the top
• Search 'pineapple-fried.css' and it should display the contents of that file

For those needing help getting PF to display properly, I will have some time today to help via VC and screenshare. Just ping me. I will ask that before we hop in a VC support call, please try installing only PF in a fresh Zen profile to see if it corrects the behavior.

[odd adder]

This looks like you have the outdated version of PF installed. v2.1.0 does not have the natsumi-tweaks import.

Ah my bad, it still is in the source code, I need to remove that.

[tawdry dirge]

Don't forget that I found out that having Natsumi installed in tandem works perfectly

[odd adder]

okay there's a bug

I'll try to get an update out soon. Seems like the same thing @thick sphinx and @onyx lily have identified. There's already a Github issue outlining some of the same troubleshooting for this bug on the repo, so please check there for updates on this bug.

[odd adder]

okay hopefully bug fixed

https://github.com/TheBigWazz/Pineapple-Fried/releases/tag/v2.1.1

[high wigeon]

@odd adder the integrated-urlbar is making the "zen.theme.content-element-separation" thicker that what i set it to

and multiple toolbar style and the compact toolbar style are making it thick only on the sides.

[odd adder]

Can you send a screenshot example?

Where are you setting the separation value? Just put an !important tag on the rule and it should override pf integrated url bar

[high wigeon]

i changed the seperation value in about:config

[high wigeon]

also do these 2 affect the transparency of the ff-sidebar?

[odd adder]

They do not

[odd adder]

What value does pf change this to?

[high wigeon]

it doesn't change it in the actual configuration, but it makes ti thicker

[high wigeon]

this thing is the same in about:config but it changes in the browser

[odd adder]

Are you able to send a before/after example so I can see what is changing?

[high wigeon]

before

affter

[odd adder]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the comparison. You might need to use custom css if you want to override the PF values. I can look at decreasing the separation, but the value its currently at is what I thought looked good for integrated url style. @high wigeon

[high wigeon]

can i change it within the css?

if so, which line

[odd adder]

One sec ill find it

For multiple toolbar mode, adjust line 30. For single toolbar mode adjust lines 48 and 49. @high wigeon

In integrated-urlbar.css

[high wigeon]

@odd adder is it possible to get the new tab stuff(the logo and svg) on the blank page

the blank page you get when you set zen.urlbar.replace-newtab to true

[odd adder]

Yeah possibly, havent looked into that specifically, but i dont think it would be too difficult

[tawdry dirge]

@odd adder Bottom essentials is no longer functional in the latest release

[odd adder]

Im aware. Discontinuing the mod, going to pass this functionality over to the new SuperPins maintainer.

[tawdry dirge]

Ah ok

[odd adder]

Wtf

[cerulean rose]

@odd adder does it work in latest zen update??

[high wigeon]

@odd adder i think something is broken

[cerulean rose]

@lime surge does pineapple fried work with your latest natsumi?

[lime surge]

idk

[odd adder]

Yeah bottom Essentials mod is done for. Move to SuperPins, theres a toggle for bottom Essentials in that mod now.

[cerulean rose]

When you will do a new update or there's nothing you can do?

[cerulean rose]

@odd adder How is this work?

Did you tried it or you did see someone try it???

Bc it's impossible to get transparency, but you made thing looks the weirdest.

[high wigeon]

This is with super pins

I removed all my css ad checked and I still have that problem

[odd adder]

Sorry dont know what to tell you. Zen changed how essentials work and now moving then to the bottom is broken. I won't be putting any more work into bottom Essentials, keep an eye on super pins to see if they figure out a way.

[high wigeon]

i thought superpins was your mod

my bad

[odd adder]

can confirm that this settings works on 1.12.2t in SuperPins

[odd adder]

Use SuperPins and select Bottom for location of Essentials. It works. Even with the media player.

[high wigeon]

it only works on one workspace for me

[high wigeon]

im having the problem i showed in this video

even with 0 css

[odd adder]

Oh this is strange... whats your zen version and can you duplicate this in a fresh profile?

[high wigeon]

1.12.1b

[high wigeon]

how do i make a new profile

[odd adder]

go to about:profiles and you'll see the button for making a new profile

[high wigeon]

i have different essentials on different workspaces

[west loom]

yo wazz

[high wigeon]

i dont remember how i got that

[odd adder]

oh workspace specific essentials specifically are broken when trying to put them at the bottom

[odd adder]

yo

[high wigeon]

ya that is the problem

[odd adder]

so you want workspace specific essentials to be disabled?

[high wigeon]

no i want the bottom essentials to be normal 😭

i found a code for that

[odd adder]

can't have normal bottom essentials if they are workspace specific.

[high wigeon]

/* bottom essentials */

#zen-essentials-wrapper {
  position: absolute;
  bottom: 0;
  
  .zen-essentials-container {
    transform: translateY(-100%) !important;
  }
}

.zen-current-workspace-indicator {
  margin-top: 0 !important;;
}

#zen-tabs-wrapper {
  margin-top: 0 !important;
  margin-bottom: 9em !important; // put your own magic number you can look over the margin-top that was set by the inline style
}

this is what im using for now

[odd adder]

and it's producing the above video?

[high wigeon]

no

[high wigeon]

super pins is producing the video

[high wigeon]

the code is working almost normally(small bug)

[odd adder]

okay, i'll look at the block you just pasted and see if we can throw it into super pins