Added expand on hover again but the way I always wanted it

[delicate swan]

I always disliked the buttons changing position when you hover the sidebar, so I collapsed the bottom buttons to only show the active workspace when the sidebar is collapsed.

(I already made this change before the hover feature was removed, but readding the feature made it smoother and the code a lot less hacky)

https://zen-browser.app/mods/bd92a9a0-1c00-4187-a66e-94c389fa5a59/

README.md:

# Sidebar Expand on Hover

## Description

**Important:** set the browser layout to Single Toolbar or Multiple Toolbar depending on how the expanded sidebar should look like.

With this mod the sidebar expands when you hover it. It only works when the browser layout setting is set to collapsed toolbar.

Addionally this mod collapses the buttons below the tabs to provide a smoother experience. Per default your active workspace is shown while the sidebar is collapsed (only works when the workspace switcher is placed there).

## Preferences
- **Hide top workspace indicator**: since the active workspace is already shown below, this theme hides the workspace indicator at the top, if you don't want this: deactivate this setting. *(default: on)*
- **Collapse the buttons to only show current workspace**: If you don't wish for your buttons to only show your current workspace when collapsed: deactivate this setting and it shows the first button instead when collapsed *(default: on)*
- **Inverted Tab Direction**: Favicon on the right, title in the middle, close button on the left. Less moving parts when the sidebar is on the right. *(default: off)*
- **Width of the expanded sidebar**: Here you can change the width of the expanded sidebar *(default: 300px)*
- **Transition speed of the sidebar**: Speed of the collapsing/expanding animation *(default: 120ms)*

[vagrant verge]

can u make the sidebar itself hover and peek?

[delicate swan]

like completly gone when not hovering?

[vagrant verge]

the sidebar panel of apps. when not using it and clicking on the big normal tab. it should go away all the way to the left. so that u can just move the cursor to the left and it comes up again

[vagrant verge]

is that possible?

[delicate swan]

ahhh the sidepanel thingy

let me try x3

[delicate swan]

like this?

[vagrant verge]

OMG, exactly like that

does it have an effect if u dont have such a compact toolbar. ? or change from compact mode to normal one toolbar mode

[delicate swan]

the sidepanel only stays open when you click in it (doesn't work when no side panel is loaded, and I can't guarantee that it works for every website in the side panel (all I tested worked))
I tried it with the big toolbar and it works as well

for the transition/animation to work I had to set a fixed width, just change the 500px to whatevery you like

#zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper {
  width: 0px !important;
  overflow: clip;
  position: absolute !important;;
  height: 100%;
  transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
}

#browser:has(#TabsToolbar:hover) #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper, #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:hover, #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:has(:focus) {
  width: 500px !important;;
}

[dire tiger]

Thank you for this putting this together.

[vagrant verge]

thank you very much. had u not posted this very first video i wouldve not thought that it is possible in the first place.

glad u made my idea real ❤️

[delicate swan]

I think this is actually clean enough to make it into a zen mod

[lean plover]

Where do I put this code for the hover toolbar function?

[delicate swan]

your userChrome.css (check here if you dont have one: https://docs.zen-browser.app/guides/live-editing)

[lean plover]

Oh I thought I just download the ZenMod or something 😄

Why it is not in the ZenMods function ? I thought taht is the reason of having them?

[delicate swan]

im currently trying to figure out how to upload one x3

[lean plover]

oh nice! You are the life saver .. I cannot use a browser without expanding the vertical tabs on hover

I did the first code but it does not work for me like inm your video .. the background is fully transparent

[dire tiger]

Same.

[lean plover]

exactly like that

[delicate swan]

uhhhh

that shouldn't happen good that i didn't upload it yet x3

[vagrant verge]

probably conflict with other css

[lean plover]

I have no other css file

[delicate swan]

oh i had the catpuccin theme installed

[dire tiger]

I was thinking it was the superpins, but disabled my mods amd it is still the same.

The tabs close button is also missing. This is in compact mode.

[delicate swan]

yeah i had extra css installed

[dire tiger]

If I have expanded mode enabled it bugs out differently.

[delicate swan]

yeah it only works in collapsed toolbar mode

[vagrant verge]

just to let u know this works fine btw.

[delicate swan]

hmm not sure if it can smoothly work when someone uses gradients

[lean plover]

So what should I do to have it working the collapsing function of the side toolbar?

[delicate swan]

im currently trying to fix the background stuff

[near dirge]

make it a mod make it a mod make it a mod make it a mod make it a mod make it a mod

please 🙏

[delicate swan]

after fixing the bugs

[near dirge]

nice!

[lean plover]

Can you then updating the mod? like you push out a new version and we just download an update from the zen mods?

[delicate swan]

getting a nice transition with a gradient background was harder than expected

[lean plover]

I love that the side toolbar is not jumping when hover to open .. the original was like some kind of "jumping". Cannot wait for it!

[delicate swan]

yeah the original only had an open animation an no closing animation if i remember correctly

[lean plover]

that also, yes

[near dirge]

from zen's source code

          background: var(--zen-main-browser-background-toolbar) !important;
          background-attachment: fixed !important;
          background-size: 2000px !important; /* Dont ask me why */
          backdrop-filter: blur(5px) !important;

Dont ask me why part is really important if u want it to "blend"

idk, I think it could look better

[delicate swan]

Uh nice thanks :3

somehow the colors blend better when the window isn't focused (i think i'll just use this with the method i used before)

[delicate swan]

issue created :3

[vagrant verge]

J think I know what this is

U need to turn off ur

[delicate swan]

it is disabled but wallpaper engine is doing stuff with accent colors, so not sure if I can trust my setting

this is probably going to be the mod url as soon as it's merged: https://zen-browser.app/mods/bd92a9a0-1c00-4187-a66e-94c389fa5a59
(now you can poke cheff about it x3 )

[red rose]

I uhh don't know what's wrong

[delicate swan]

wait until the mod is approved and install it, the version above only works with some themes (and I don't want to upload my userchrome again, since it now includes settings)

[red rose]

okay i'll try not to hover in the meantime

[delicate swan]

Also you should remove the stuff again when you install the mod (or know if it's not working) both stuff at the same time will probably cause a lot more issues

[red rose]

I already removed the css, it's messing with the toolbar

[near dirge]

ping me when it's done!

[delicate swan]

https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/858

[delicate swan]

Going to create a mod for that tomorrow as well

[green swan]

yeah and wait for 1 year to get approved 🐷

[marsh marsh]

Is this a bug on my side or is it on the mod?

[languid gyro]

It doesn't seem to work correctly with single toolbar mode, would it be possible to get a fix for that?

[delicate swan]

it seems like the problem is your width setting. The default value is "300px" so you probably want a number similar to that and you need to add the unit.

[delicate swan]

Currently it only supports collapsed toolbar, since their need to be a lot more changes to get the collapsed look when using a different toolbar. I might support single toolbar mode in the future but it would be a lot more work I guess

[delicate swan]

actually changing the width preference a few times also results in that behavior for some reason but changing the width again fixes it sometimes? (of course only works with a valid width including a unit)

[marsh marsh]

Thats hilarious lmao

[delicate swan]

yeah i created a zen bug report (https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/3558)

[marsh marsh]

I don't what do you mean by "units" but changing this setting to 300 or around 300 doesn't fix it

[delicate swan]

write px for pixels (or some other css unit) directly behind the number

[delicate swan]

and type slowly so that the bug doesn't effect you

[marsh marsh]

My beloved vertical tabs expand on hover is back! Thank you so much 😭😭🙏🙏

[languid gyro]

Makes sense

[steel surge]

is it possible to make it so that when i drag my mouse all the way to the left itll still expand? because rn it doesnt do that and i kinda want it to work like that :(

[delicate swan]

are you using compact mode?

[steel surge]

nope

[delicate swan]

Can you send a screenshot I was only able to reproduce this in compact mode

[lean plover]

Where can I find this? Because the official website has no search function (bad.. :D)

[delicate swan]

#1316100064900284547 message

[lean plover]

Thank you, I try to change the settings width and it stopped working when I put back the 300px 😄

[delicate swan]

type more slowly thats a zen browser bug x3

[lean plover]

My god 😄 I won't fiogured that out like never 😄 thank you

It is possible to have the top icons correctly centered?

[delicate swan]

can you show me a screenshot?

im currently working on a similar bug but not sure if it's the same you are experiencing

[lean plover]

Without the mod

with the mod

they are aligned more to right

[delicate swan]

ok that's a new bug x3 adding to my issue list

[lean plover]

Anyway ty much. This is the reason why I will stay to Zen. I cannot use a browser without the hover function 😄

[delicate swan]

same x3

[lean plover]

I fixed the two icons.

I removed them 😄

[thorn kettle]

This is AMAZING!!

How hard would it be for you to add the ability to toggle lock the sidebar shown/hidden?

Right now I'm dealing with this:
https://discord.com/channels/1088172780480114748/1315546794528346112

Essentially When using Ctrl+Alt+S (or I've changed it to Ctrl+S) to toggle the floating sidebar, the sidebar covers the content when toggled out instead of resizing the browser window, unlike compact mode (Show/hide sidebar or toolbar) , which works correctly but lacks a keyboard shortcut. Is there a way to combine these behaviors, allowing the sidebar to toggle and resize the browser window via a shortcut?

[scenic spindle]

So, I don't know if this is a known bug, but when using the mod, the button to close out of a tab and to reset a pinned tab doesn't appear

[timid hemlock]

So first time doing the whole chrome.css thing in which folder do I put it?

[delicate swan]

Close button will be added in the next version it's already done, I didn't knew a reset pinned button exists but I will fix that as well (it might take some time until the next version releases since the mod updates are approved manually so I want to fix as many bugs at once as possible)

[scenic spindle]

thanks!

[delicate swan]

It now exists as a mod (https://zen-browser.app/mods/bd92a9a0-1c00-4187-a66e-94c389fa5a59/) unless you want to install the latest development version and deal with manually adding all the preferences in about:config

[timid hemlock]

Ohh neet thanks

Will it not work if the tabs are on the right side?

[delicate swan]

Maybe I did not test that

[timid hemlock]

Doesnt work for me

[delicate swan]

But you have to set your setting to collapsed, single toolbar isn't supported yet

[timid hemlock]

Yeah settings are like that

It works when I put it on the left

But not on the right

[delicate swan]

Ok just wanted to make sure I'll add sidebar on the right to my issue list

[timid hemlock]

Appreciate your work

[near dirge]

it's very buggy!

lmfao

welcome to the club

[green swan]

🐷

[gilded sinew]

ahh if you get it to work that would be HUGGEEE

[gentle phoenix]

this is broken on my zen

[green swan]

btw I think this might be a cool idea, blurred sidebar on hover

just an idea ik it probably wont be possible

[lament spindle]

This looks pretty sweet

[delicate swan]

It should probably be possible but not sure if I want to include 500 options in the mod

[vagrant verge]

Holy shit that looks good

[vagrant verge]

Nah actually, out of all possible mods. Make this

[idle nimbus]

how to make the essential tabs look like default

[delicate swan]

like this? that's how they look in the current dev version, I wasn't sure how they should look so I just cropped the expanded version for the collapsed one. If someone has a better idea please tell me :3

[bronze wyvern]

oh for me essentials are super small, idk why x)

it's the same without bottom essentials

[delicate swan]

yeah I showed a screenshot how they'll probably look in the next update, they look like that for you because I forgot that essentials existed and didn't include anything special for them in the version I uploaded to the mod store x3

[bronze wyvern]

oh okay x)

btw while we are on small visual bugs, the "new tab" text doesn't appear when the sidebar is expanded:

[delicate swan]

already fixed as well! The last two bugs left I'm currently aware of are compact mode and sidebar on the right and as soon as they are fixed I'm updating the mod

[near dirge]

Weeeeelcome to the club

[delicate swan]

I feel like I should add instructions on how to install the current version so people can test before I update the mod

[bronze wyvern]

oh i have this one in compact mode, idk if that's what you are talking about?

[deep birch]

uh tiny little thing

could you maybe add a check somewhere

that it applies only when the zen mode is in collapsed mode

in multiple toolbar and single toolbar mode , it does some questionable stuff

[near dirge]

Haha

[deep birch]

otherwise epic mod

[near dirge]

Thank god these bug reports aren't for me 😁👍

[deep birch]

lol

[near dirge]

Sharing my misery to others

[delicate swan]

compact mode looks like this for me depending on where I hover

[deep birch]

noo

you're making others cheff

🐷

[bronze wyvern]

oh yeah, there's that also x) i don't mind it tho

the overlap of the tabs & the bookmarks is a bit weird tho x)

[delicate swan]

also still not sure what to do when someone has multiple buttons up there, because this looks weird

maybe move them down a bit and extend them together with the tabs or extend the whole sidebar top to bottom? idk

[near dirge]

U changing title bar instead of navigator toolbox probably

[bronze wyvern]

@delicate swan when you push your update lmk, i'll try to write a remove browser padding fix for compact mode. it can be as simple as --zen-element-separation = 0 but you use this value for the collapsed toolbar so i'll take a look at what you do

[delicate swan]

is something like this looking better? (with the buttons ordered horizontally probably)

actually if I keep that fixing compact mode should be really easy :o

[delicate swan]

I just found out about #navigator-toolbox[zen-has-hover] and now (combined with including the top buttons in the expanding part) all my problems are fixed

[drifting kettle]

Great Mod.The best mod even. One question though, is it suppose to cut off at the settings and sidebar options?

[delicate swan]

I'm currently thinking about moving them down and including them (something like this)

[drifting kettle]

That does look pretty cool.

[delicate swan]

fixed

[delicate swan]

you are outsourcing those bug reports to me

[green swan]

He should give you some borgirs

[delicate swan]

wait it looks like the sidebar at right side isn't even working in the current update so I don't know what's incompatible

[clear ginkgo]

Please add in the option to close the tabs manually instead of having to right click. 😄 just a nice little x by the tabs if you so choose

[lean plover]

middle click? 🙂

[clear ginkgo]

Didn't know middle click closed the tab out!

[timid hemlock]

Also you can open new tab with middle click

[regal thorn]

1.0.2-b.2 breaks sidebar expand on hover lol
https://redy.discowd.com/3842_NVIDIA_GeForce_Overlay_DT_2024,12,15,02AM_x_kKNo3Zvqk7.mp4

[lean plover]

Can confirm. Please update the awesome mod 😢

[delicate swan]

[near dirge]

Hahaha

[lean plover]

gib update! 😄

[delicate swan]

Tomorrow!

[clear ginkgo]

So everyone else is getting tabs floating behind the page then?

[delicate swan]

Yes quick fix if you don't want to wait for the update tomorrow (not tested from memory (I'm in bed on my phone x3 )): add

#navigator-toolbox {
z-index: 3 !important;
}

to your userchrome.css

[near dirge]

lmfao

[green swan]

cheff did it on purpose fr

glorp

[delicate swan]

Update uploaded! (not merged yet)

[regal thorn]

I've just been doing this, although it is slightly cursed https://redy.discowd.com/3844_The_Serial_Killer_Iceberg_-_YouTube_—_Zen_Browser_2024,12,16,01PM_x_dSHfid17fJ.mp4

[delicate swan]

Ah right I only tested it on the newest dev version, actually that result kinda makes sense.

(also typst user spotted )

It should work properly again as soon as the update is merged

[regal thorn]

lol yeah, been using logseq to make notes and got used to the mathjax way of notating formula, so when I had to write latex for reports for uni, I looked for an alternative that didn't suck. So now I use typst

[delicate swan]

Same

No more weird syntax and hundreds of backslashes x3

[near dirge]

Link?

[delicate swan]

https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/876

I hope I get less bug reports this time

[regal thorn]

oh man, backslashes are a PITA for me to type due to using a colmak layout on my keyboard, so when I want to type "\" I have to press: "ctrl + shift" to switch layouts, then "alt + #" to type the backslash, then "ctrl + shift" to switch back. Latex was the worst

[bronze wyvern]

i see this is merged but i don't have it in my zen, does the "Update mod" button not fetch new releases?

[delicate swan]

When I uploaded the mod it took some time after merging for it to appear on the website so I guess it's the same now

[bronze wyvern]

i am still on 1.0.0 x(

oh no you meant first upload?

[delicate swan]

yeah when the 1.0.0 merged it didn't appear instantly

[near dirge]

it's on 1.1.0 even if it doesnt say it on the site

why is this off by default

and there's no padding on the sidebar

[delicate swan]

huh the padding looks the same for me compared to no mod

[near dirge]

do u want me to help u?

to get shit working better

[delicate swan]

can you send me a screenshot?

[delicate swan]

the part on the right? that's the different tab background shape (it was originally a bug but someone liked it so much it got turned in an option: https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/6)

[near dirge]

yeah but it should be on by default

[delicate swan]

yeah thats true

[near dirge]

can I make PRs?

[delicate swan]

but with that option turned off the missing padding isn't a bug (unless you mean something else)

sure

btw have you seen this bug report? https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/3558

[near dirge]

hm

no I did not..

ill do it right away

[delicate swan]

thanks!
just realized that it'll probably result in bug reports to me again when people try to change the new string property that was added

[regal thorn]

added a bug report with 1.1.0, didn't realise that there's repos for these lol https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/20

either way, other than that small bug, the mod works again, so thankyou for the time MeowingWhale :)

[bronze wyvern]

just updated, essentials when collapsed are kinda broken (and buttons on the bottom)

[delicate swan]

is that video in compact mode? (actually can't reproduce it even in compact mode )

[regal thorn]

collapsed toolbar, compact mode for the top bar only

[delicate swan]

yeah honestly I wasn't sure at all what to do with the essential buttons so I just let them look like normal in expanded mode and clipped them. If you have a better idea how they should look collapsed please tell me!

[regal thorn]

just disabled all of my zen mods, restarted zen, then enabled all of them again, and the bug is gone lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[delicate swan]

nice I guess (hope it doesn't happen for anyone again x3 )

[green swan]

ig you could turn them to look like normal tabs

[delicate swan]

Yeah I could but then they would take much more vertical space (at least when you have a lot of them)

maybe just show the first essential tab when collapsed and scaled down to fit in the sidebar?

[delicate swan]

is there supposed to be that much space between the bottom buttons? (and in case it's yes: how did you do that?)

[lean plover]

oh the new tab background shape is nice!

[delicate swan]

you can thank @proud egret for that :3

[lean plover]

Ty nanocryk 🙂

[bronze wyvern]

either hide them completly or display them as a list (that's what zen used to do)

[lean plover]

the icons on top that are centered is also a nice detail

[bronze wyvern]

btw @delicate swan, could you specify --zen-toolbox-max-width: 44px !important; when you specify --tab-collapsed-width? i think this could simply a bit the collapsed css side and more importantly it allows others to override --zen-element-separation.

[delicate swan]

yeah I didn't hid them because I always want to display the vertical space in which the cursor should move to get to the target element, but just displaying them like pinned tabs should work

[bronze wyvern]

i want to set zen-element-separation to 0 to hide the top/right/bottom padding but doing so make the collapsed sidebar too small for it's content since current --zen-toolbox-max-width is a calc using element-separation

here is an example of what it looks like if you set zen-element-separation to 0 if zen-toolbox-max-width is not overriden

[delicate swan]

I think it would be generally more appropriate for me to use --zen-toolbox-max-width instead of --tab-collapsed-width (I think that is just a left fragment from the time before I planned to release this as a mod)

ah right I used it to center the icons I think

[bronze wyvern]

just noticed i can't open popups from the bottom side bar anymore (ff profiles for examples). the button is in an activated state and the popup shows ~1s but instantly disapear and we can't click it

[delicate swan]

this?

[bronze wyvern]

yeah it doesn't work for me

idk why it does for you...

[delicate swan]

I tested most of my stuff on two different profiles, why does so much fail for you

can you send me a list with all you installed mods/css? idk how to test this otherwise

[bronze wyvern]

tbh it's mostly fine, just a list of small hics

[delicate swan]

also how did you get the gap in the bottom buttons? (is that custom css or a flexible space or something else?)

[bronze wyvern]

i have compact topbar + this

[bronze wyvern]

flexible space

[delicate swan]

ok I'll add support for flexible space, I didn't test it before

[bronze wyvern]

i don't have a userChrome (tho i set zen.theme.content-element-separation and zen.theme.border-radius to 0 in about:config)

[delicate swan]

[delicate swan]

oh that makes sense I hardcoded toolbarbutton, because I didn't thought someone might place something else there so the flexible space isn't hidden when collapsed

[craggy pawn]

a fairly large gap has appeared on the top of the bar regardless of whether or not hiding workspace indicators is enabled or not. i dont believe this was in 1.0.0, but correct me if im wrong.

[delicate swan]

that shouldn't happen

ohhhhhhh

I was stupid!

the top buttons occupy space even when they are empty

thanks for telling me! Is fixed in the next version :3

[craggy pawn]

thanks! keep up the great work, love the mod

[scenic spindle]

so, when it expands, is the expanded bar supposed to be transparent?

Or did I do smth wrong?

because it is hard to see the text

and is it possible to integrate the search bar/url bar into the expanded sidebar instead of having it at the top?

[sterile viper]

is it just me or this is still an issue

added the suggested #navigator-toolbox {
z-index: 3 !important;
}
as well

do i have to be on twillight for this to work?

[sterile viper]

doesnt seem to work wehen the bar is on the right

also it seem to distort the macos default close and minimize buttons

[dim drum]

there's a weird space at the top

[delicate swan]

Oh right forgot mac existed

[delicate swan]

Yep known bug

[delicate swan]

In the distant future maybe

[delicate swan]

What are your settings for the mod?

[dim drum]

that happens when you turn on
"My theme overwrites the #TabsToolbar background (e.g. catppuccin)"

[proud egret]

updated the mod, works great, thanks for the work

opened a nitpick ticket :p

[delicate swan]

When you are working on new features and testing them so much that you forget that people might not use them

[proud egret]

another small thing i'd like to see is a separator below (and above?) the workspace selector, or a slight background/border/margin that makes it stand out a bit? when collapsed the workspace icon looks like a tab, and when expanded the fact that other workspaces are slightly transparent/dimmed makes it a bit weird in my opinion

[exotic lake]

Is there a repo for this mod?

[proud egret]

https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/tree/main/sidebar-expand-on-hover

[delicate swan]

Thanks!

[near dirge]

Bro, do u want me to help?

[green swan]

[proud egret]

would be great to be able to install mods github repos and not wait quite some time for updates to be pushed in the store :p

[green swan]

Copy the css and paste it then lol

I think you can edit zen-themes.css, it probably works

[proud egret]

can i locally override the css file in the mod folder, or is it mandatory to do it in userChrome?

oh well

[delicate swan]

If you can test on mac that would be great

[green swan]

He doesnt have a mac

[proud egret]

which OS are you using?

[green swan]

Ig try editing zen-themes.css, im not sure if it works

[delicate swan]

https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/15#issuecomment-2543892579

[delicate swan]

Same

[delicate swan]

Most of my problems are not testing every possible configuration before releasing an update so more people installing the github version would help a lot x3

Is there some kind of media query or something that detects when the close buttons are on the left (like on macos or some linux configs)?

[delicate swan]

Windows (only because of shitty anticheat and too lazy to dual boot) or arch on my laptop

[deep birch]

doesn't zen-themes.css get rewritten everytime a mod gets installed ?

[green swan]

Not sure

[dim drum]

I've got a Mac should you need testing

[deep birch]

k

[vagrant verge]

hey is this a mod too now?

[delicate swan]

I wanted to make that to a mod but maintaining two mods would take too much time for me, if someone else wants to post it as a mod just do it

[vagrant verge]

ah, i have a problem with the compact mode. this thing not going away. i dont think it has to do with ur mod tho.

[near dirge]

u prob pressed the shortcut

[vagrant verge]

i did. that means it doesnt make it go and comeback on hover?

like on arc

[vagrant verge]

actually enabling compact mode from the menu does the same. not just my keybind, ctrl+S

is this a current version bug or an issue on my end?

[dire tiger]

Does anyone else have their window close button go outside of the window when not maximized?

[manic comet]

Hey, I really like your mod, it would be really cool if it could also work for single toolbar, you can just hide all the toolbar/topbbar related stuff while its in collapsed mode when it expands all the toolbar related stuff can come back?

I want to see my tabs at all times but I also dont want multiple toolbar. It would be really cool, if expand on hover can work with single toolbar as well.

@delicate swan

[manic comet]

is this possible?

[delicate swan]

It's planned but not in the near future https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/3

[vagrant verge]

Bro what shortcut??? Is this a bug or a user error caused by me

[manic comet]

oh, nice.

[delicate swan]

i accidentally reproduced this today so I can start to fix it, somehow it didn't happen the last few days

[manic comet]

havng 2 buttons (or whatever they are called) on top looks like this

[delicate swan]

that shouldn't happen

[manic comet]

also wasting soo much space up there

even without any button there the space is stil being wasted

this is without expand on hover

fully utilizing the space

[delicate swan]

now I'm confused, what did you change for that screenshot compared to the screenshot before?

[manic comet]

this one is with compact mode enabled

(hiding the topbar)

[manic comet]

this is without compact mode

this is without compact mode and your mod disabled

[delicate swan]

ahhh thanks

[manic comet]

I thought the space was for the toolbar so that the toolbar doesnt overlap any icon but now that I tried adding some buttons there

the space is fully utilized

this looks so odd

and it looks same if you dont have any buttons there

[delicate swan]

is that compact mode with both hidden?

[manic comet]

only topbar

[delicate swan]

oh yeah I messed up the selector in that case

[manic comet]

isnt it already a mod?

you made the op remake an already existing mod lol

https://zen-browser.app/mods/c8f20381-388a-4b67-b640-eaa539355ea4/

@vagrant verge

[manic comet]

theres also this

if I dont have workspace indicator

the border still stays there

which looks weird

[delicate swan]

switch of this setting

[manic comet]

yea its unchecked ik

[delicate swan]

you mean the border?
then uncheck show border for the bottom icons I think

[manic comet]

I ofc know, but the problem is that I need it

but jsut not when collapsed

cuz theres nothign there xD

I want it when expanded for this

and also one more thing xD last one

[delicate swan]

so you unchecked this and it's still empty when collapsed even tho there should be buttons? Just wanting to make sure I understand the problem correctly

[delicate swan]

wait when there is no workspace indicator in that place it shouldn't even hide the buttons no matter what setting you chose for this that's so weird

[manic comet]

yes I showed you both screenshot

[manic comet]

https://zen-browser.app/mods/4596d8f9-f0b7-4aeb-aa92-851222dc1888/

this mod doesnt work on it

[delicate swan]

yes both mods overwrite the same behavior so it's incompatible

[manic comet]

oh

[delicate swan]

what other mods do you have installed?

[manic comet]

so.. can you make it compatible?

[manic comet]

1 min

[delicate swan]

I could add the same feature as an option to my mod, but depending on what mods people like to use that would add up quite a bit when I do it for every mod...

[delicate swan]

otherwise I don't think so

[manic comet]

can you add 1 checkbox for both of these

I mean just one checkbox hiding (unless hovered) the close and reset button both

[delicate swan]

did you check if the bug appears without any other mod enabled?

[manic comet]

which one?

[delicate swan]

the bottom buttons stuff

[manic comet]

let me try rq

[delicate swan]

and this

I was only able to reproduce the compact mode offset so far

[manic comet]

nope nothing changes

[delicate swan]

[manic comet]

is it not liek this for you?

[manic comet]

btw this is a new profile

I just created this morning

[delicate swan]

nope for me it shows only the first when collapsed

[manic comet]

ah thats weird

[delicate swan]

can you show me a screenshot of the sidebar in the customizate toolbar mode

maybe their is some flexible space somewhere or something

[delicate swan]

huh

that's weird

oh I think I found the issue

[delicate swan]

it's because those buttons are addon buttons I think

I'll try to fix that

I think I found the reason for the bottom buttons as well... workaround would be to: try to create a second workspace and then they should appear in the customization in the bottom buttons and then just remove them from there and delete the second workspace again

or before you try that

[delicate swan]

can you check the collapse the buttons to only show current workspace box and uncheck it again

that worked for me on a new profile

i think that might be a zen browser bug, I'll try around a bit and maybe create a bug report if it is

[manic comet]

nothing happens

[manic comet]

yea they are addons

[delicate swan]

can you open about:config serch for theme.sidebar_expand_on_hover and post a screenshot of the setting there?

I think I just found a zen browser bug while trying to reproduce your issue

[delicate swan]

huh ok there seems to be an issue with my mod still

[shrewd ginkgo]

Is this mode stable yet?

[delicate swan]

depending on your configuration x3

the way I customized my browser it is stable

[manic comet]

btw I think I would prefer having no buttons there

[delicate swan]

but apparently not for everyone

[manic comet]

so instaed of the first one it can actualyl stay blank?

[green swan]

more preferences time

[manic comet]

cuz it looks stupid cuz the moment you try to go for that button it displaces

[delicate swan]

yeah but then you have to live with the line x3

[manic comet]

is the line not hide-able?

[delicate swan]

I don't want to include a setting for hiding the line sometimes

[manic comet]

like disabling it when hoveris not active

and enabling when hover is active?

[manic comet]

I think it should be the default behavior no one would like to have a line that seperates nothing?

[delicate swan]

@near dirge new issue with the mod preferences just dropped x3
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/3887

[delicate swan]

yeah but the fact that nothing is there is still a bug even tho you prefer it

[manic comet]

oh yeah I can fonfirm, it happens with me too

[manic comet]

I said I think not having anything would make more sense and I would prefer it. I didnt say not locate and fix the issue and make it an actual feature

[delicate swan]

ok I think I could change this to a dropdown, with show workspace (if possible), show first button and show nothing?

[manic comet]

oh yes, I would love it!

but is there any point of showing the first button?

the moment you will try to go for it it will dislocate

[delicate swan]

but empty space looks weird x3

[manic comet]

oh yeah, didnt think of that. I mean, it will be fine for bottom but not for top

ok then 1 button would be a better choice ig

anyway

you found the collapse issue

what about the first one?

[manic comet]

what about this?

@delicate swan

did you find this one as well?

(the space being wasted?)

[delicate swan]

yes thats why I want to fix it

[delicate swan]

That was because of addons buttons I'll try to fix that as well

[manic comet]

nice.

[manic comet]

sorry lmao but

superpin also just doesnt work at all?

[delicate swan]

yes same reason as the tab hover close button one

[manic comet]

doesnt it make your mod literally unuseable?

mods are supposed to stack, yours doesnt stack with any of the tabbar related one?

[delicate swan]

I don't think this can be fixed unless some kind of mod loading order or something like that is added

[manic comet]

ah, that sucks...

[manic comet]

@near dirge @near dirge can I bug you for a native expand on hover implementation xD?

[near dirge]

No

[manic comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1052605424140029984.webp?size=48&name=sadness

[green swan]

why need native when there's a great mod like this

[manic comet]

.

I mean, I do like it. But literally just no tabbar related mod can work

which makes it unuseable

[near dirge]

native will literally just be a copy and paste of the mod lol

[vagrant verge]

Oh lol I didn't know that. Is it as good or better? Or worse

[delicate swan]

it's opening the sidepanel on the opposite side of the sidebar instead

so depeneds on your preference

[manic comet]

I mean, theres no need of another mod that does the exact same thing. Just ask the dev to add preferences

[manic comet]

that would work, literally.

the mods just need to work over it, not with it.

right @delicate swan?

or I got it wrong? 😅

[near dirge]

stop

[manic comet]

[craggy pawn]

im sorry for being the bearer of bad news again, but recent zen update did something weird to the mod again. when expanded, it seems to be highlighted, on top of that, some lag seems to have been introduced to the expand/contract animations

i tried going into about:config and disabling the new compact mode changes one by one to see if one of them was the cause, but no luck

[delicate swan]

yeah I tried it yesterday and noticed that as well but wasn't sure if it was caused by the update (since I'm using a different theme instead of the colors on my main profile, which isn't affected)

[craggy pawn]

it only occurred when i applied the new update so im fairly certain its the cause

ive also been running your up to date version off userChrome if that helps

it does seem like the gradient is still applying when it expands, just with a really high contrast on it for some reason

[delicate swan]

it looks like the sidebar background is ignoring the contrast slider in the theme colors (second picture with max contrast value)

ohhhh, the browser backgrounds opacity is linked to the contrast value, while for the toolbar it's mixed with white for lower contrast just tried to use the browser background instead of the browser background toolbar variable

this is what the lowest contrast looks like when using exactly the same background as the browser

[vagrant verge]

this one actually works, the current mod doesnt even work on my setup lol

[lean plover]

So no update of ze nbrowser I see 😄

[vagrant verge]

@delicate swan can the hovering webpanel maybe not go when i pin it... like stay floating?

[dim drum]

is this known?

[marsh marsh]

I'm kinda scared to update it to 1.0.2-b.3. Does this mod break when updated or is it fine?

[delicate swan]

the only reported bug I know of is that the sidebar background looks more lighter than the browser background

[delicate swan]

no thanks for reporting

[lean plover]

I risked it and it looks that everything is working just fine.

[vagrant verge]

what i meant is that the webpanel only goes away and comes back on hover when it is unpinned. since there is no way to keep it open now...

[delicate swan]

yes should be possible

[delicate swan]

like this? or the opposite?

#zen-sidebar-web-panel[pinned="true"] {
  width: 0px !important;
  min-width: 0px !important;
  overflow: hidden;
  position: absolute !important;
  height: 100%;
  transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
}

#browser:has(#TabsToolbar:hover) #zen-sidebar-web-panel, #zen-sidebar-web-panel:hover, #zen-sidebar-web-panel:has(:focus), #zen-sidebar-web-panel:not([pinned="true"]) {
  width: 500px !important;
}

[vagrant verge]

i have tried setting both pinned= false. but ig that did opposite it yes, but it undoes the hover effect.

This is a way better base so im gonna be using that one u provided.

tho i wonder if we can get the hovering on top of the website to be "fake pinned"

and the pinned to be slideing and hide, this way it makes room for the website

[delicate swan]

thats what I meant with opposite

should be this instead of false (because css is weird), untested yet

#zen-sidebar-web-panel:not([pinned="true"]) {
  width: 0px !important;
  min-width: 0px !important;
  overflow: hidden;
  position: absolute !important;
  height: 100%;
  transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
}

#browser:has(#TabsToolbar:hover) #zen-sidebar-web-panel, #zen-sidebar-web-panel:hover, #zen-sidebar-web-panel:has(:focus), #zen-sidebar-web-panel[pinned="true"] {
  width: 500px !important;
}

no this seems wrong

[delicate swan]

yeah i just tested it myself

idk why the other stuff I tried didn't work, but here is a (for me) working version using a really cursed workaround @vagrant verge

:root:has(#zen-sidebar-web-panel:not([pinned="true"])){
    #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper {
        width: 0px !important;
        overflow: hidden;
        position: absolute !important;
        height: 100%;
        transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
    }

    #browser:has(#TabsToolbar:hover) #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper, #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:hover, #zen-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:has(:focus) {
        width: 500px !important;
    }
}

[vagrant verge]

i guess that works, we basically have 2 options now.

tho itsnt the same as pushing the website when on hover.

[delicate swan]

remove position absolute

[vagrant verge]

holy shit

[delicate swan]

it just looked weird in my opinion with the transition when the website layout changes because of the pushing stuff

that's why I didn't do it first x3

[vagrant verge]

ty very muchhh. this is great

❤️

[bronze wyvern]

btw could you consider pushing an update for this? if i click on one of those items i can't use arrow keys until i restart the browser x)

[delicate swan]

oh right uhm i haven't been able to reproduce that yet

[bronze wyvern]

oh :c

[delicate swan]

I added a change that the sidebar stays open when a popup on it is activated, it might fix your problem but not completely sure

flexible space works now as well btw

[idle nimbus]

is there any quick fix that I can do myself? this drives me crazy

[delicate swan]

let me try something, it's not going to be perfect but less noticable maybe

[idle nimbus]

but now essential tabs look nice. Thanks

[delicate swan]

add this to your userChrome.css:

html {
  --zen-main-browser-background-toolbar: var(--zen-main-browser-background), #000 !important;
}

to get a even less noticable look, change your theme color contrast to zero and then make a screenshot colorpick the toolbar/sidebar color and use that instead of #000

i haven't found a way yet to get that color automatically

[delicate swan]

important note: at least for me that color changes depending on whether the browser is in focus or not

[idle nimbus]

perfect, ty

My room has low light, so switching tabs feels like a flash every time lol

[vagrant verge]

@delicate swan does this mod not work on single toolbar? the webpanel mod together with the compact mode on single toolbar is not that good.

[delicate swan]

single toolbar is planned, but more difficult so not a priority right now

or do you mean the stuff I posted for you?

[vagrant verge]

ah, can the trigger of the webpanel then be changed? instead of linked to when on the tabbar. just when on the right side?

since in compact mode. i need to first let that tab bar show. go to the left, then back right and a bit left to make sure the web panel stays.

[delicate swan]

you mean this stuff or the expand sidebar mod?

[vagrant verge]

yes the webpanel mod

[delicate swan]

changing #browser:has(#TabsToolbar:hover) to #navigator-toolbox[zen-has-hover] should probably work

i changed that part on the main mod some time ago to fix issues with compact mode

[vagrant verge]

webpanel doesnt popup anymore :D

`:root:has(#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel:not([pinned="true"])) {
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper {
width: 0px !important;
overflow: hidden;
position: absolute !important;
height: 100%;
transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
}

#navigator-toolbox[zen-has-hover] #1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper,
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:hover,
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:has(:focus) {
    width: 500px !important;
}

}`

[delicate swan]

oh sorry

#browser:has(#navigator-toolbox[zen-has-hover])

was stupid

[vagrant verge]

ah, idk if placebo but it works smoother. does the hover need to be on the tabbar tho? and not just absolute position, on the right?

:root:has(#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel:not([pinned="true"])) {
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper {
width: 0px !important;
overflow: hidden;
position: absolute !important;
height: 100%;
transition: width 120ms ease-in-out !important;
}

#browser:has(#navigator-toolbox[zen-has-hover]) #1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper,
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:hover,
#1088172782178799657-sidebar-web-panel-wrapper:has(:focus) {
    width: 500px !important;
}

}

[delicate swan]

now im completly confused

did you install the sidebar mod on the same time?

[vagrant verge]

no sorry. lemme clarify, how does this web panel come up on hover?

when hovering on the tabbar right?

[delicate swan]

it comes up when hovering the tabbar

[vagrant verge]

right now im in the compact mode so i have fullscreen web browsing. but thing is there is overlap between the tabbar and webpanel

thats why im asking if it possible for the hover instead of being linked to the tabbar

to come up of a position trigger (complete right side of the browser)

[delicate swan]

ohhhhh

[vagrant verge]

so both as trigger and where it is then

[delicate swan]

but how would the webpanel stay open or do you want that on the right side as well?

in that case there is already that one existing mod I guess

[vagrant verge]

ye that one doesnt work, and seems to be inactive in dev. other ppl alr had been asking for a fix with no reaction

[vagrant verge]

yup. with the same current ways of how the pinned or unpinned works. just on the right

[craggy pawn]

it seems like the gap at the top when workspace icon is hidden has risen from the dead once more

godspeed

[delicate swan]

i think i never fixed that (at least in the mod store version not yet)

[craggy pawn]

i was using the most updated userChrome on your github which did fix it (at least for 1 zen update)

[delicate swan]

hmmmm

okay that's weird

(oh just realized I haven't updated yet, was too scare of stuff breaking)

[craggy pawn]

iirc this was what fixed the gap

        z-index: 3 !important;
    }```

either way i dont think its a super pressing issue, just letting you know

[delicate swan]

thanks!

(I also don't have that much time the next few days :c )

[potent venture]

hey is it possible to align these icons

[vagrant verge]

@delicate swan hope u had a happy holidays. Can u maybe help with this

[delicate swan]

thanks, I just started working on the mod again and prioritizing fixing the last remaining bugs and pushing the update right now

[delicate swan]

can someone on macos test if this problem still exists in the latest zen version and in case it does: it would be great if someone knew how to detect someone using macos in a mod. (I tried reproducing it on linux (gnome shell with tweaks settings) but it looked fine)

[delicate swan]

Okay new update pull request created :3 (all reported bugs except the macos window buttons should be fixed when it's merged)

https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/950 (in case someone is interested in the changelog or cheff searching for the pull request)

Next I'm going to work on the single toolbar support which will probably result in rewriting most of the mod

[vagrant verge]

Can the side panel be prioritized? I think the rewriting of the whole mod will take a long time

[delicate swan]

the side panel thingy isn't even part of the mod, but just a side project I started for you, so I'm going to focus on the thing a lot of people use

[bronze wyvern]

just updated and tabs are not overflowing anymore! thanks for the fix!

[near dirge]

just copy the native one 😭 🙏

copy and paste kek

[delicate swan]

I'm confused

[near dirge]

just copy this https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/blob/3b482b265b2b1959b4204f46a348a7d7ac4780a6/src/browser/base/content/zen-styles/zen-tabs/vertical-tabs.css#L580

lmfao

[delicate swan]

oh I thought you were talking about the side panel thingy the other person asked about

[near dirge]

Talking about expand on hiver

[delicate swan]

just tried it out (thanks for pointing me at the right position), I'll definitely use some code from there, but I think it's easier to start from a working part than to try to fix this in a way to work with the current version.

like copy pasting the old native code looks like this with the different toolbar modes for me and my quick unfinished rewrite that supports all toolbar modes looks better already

https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/blob/3b482b265b2b1959b4204f46a348a7d7ac4780a6/src/browser/base/content/zen-styles/zen-tabs/vertical-tabs.css#L607 that part is super helpful and I'll use it (I already had most of it in the mod, but some selectors are missing)

[near dirge]

Great!

[dim drum]

accessing synced tabs

[delicate swan]

can you see if that happens for you without the mod enabled in collapsed toolbar mode? At least for me it does, so I think it's a zen issue

[dim drum]

ahh yeah that's a zen issue

[delicate swan]

are you going to report the issue or should I?

[dim drum]

I could do it

[delicate swan]

oki

[dim drum]

unless someone else has already reported it

[lean plover]

With last update the vertical bar is staying for some time when I hover mouse out. Before it was immidiately return after mouse out, how can I set it that when I move mouse out it immidiately go back?

Can u please make settings for speed to the right and speed to the left after mouse out?

[delicate swan]

Are you moving your cursor out of the browser window when you notice the delay or in the direction of the website?

[lean plover]

iirc there was no delay for the sidebar to go back when mouse out?

[delicate swan]

I just looked around and I'm using the same code as the native compact mode and there was an delay added in javascript

[lean plover]

hm ... im not sure, but I really think that there was no delay when moving the mouse out of the sidebar before

[delicate swan]

replacing the [zen-has-hover] with :hover removes the delay, but maybe it would be nice the keep using the native zen-has-hover stuff and add the delay setting directly to the browser

[lean plover]

or can you add a setting like speed for hover "right" and speed for hover "left" - i mean how fast it returns - so anyone can customise it by yourself?

[delicate swan]

yeah it got added to zen 3 days ago

and in the code it already got changed from 300ms to 100ms, so probably not that noticeable next zen update

yeah I could add the customization to my mod, but since this is a zen feature in my opinion it should be configurable in the browser

oh i just saw that someone already asked for this #zeneral message

[lean plover]

so it gets changed with the last zen update okay and I cannot do anything with it atm

[delicate swan]

if you want it now replace all [zen-has-hover] with :hover in my mod then there is 0 delay

[lean plover]

How can I do that? Just find the mod file and edit it?

[delicate swan]

that might work after restarting the browser, but so far I always used this method to test my mod https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/15#issuecomment-2543892579

[lean plover]

ye easier to edit it in the mod file, works exactly what I ment .. thank you very much for your great and fast support

[bronze wyvern]

i think the overlap problem is back with the latest version

when using compact mode for the topbar and bookmark menu shown

[lean plover]

why the settings icon is that offcenter?
and when not expanded it isnt even showed

[mystic nacelle]

Any chance this work without issue with Advanced Tab Groups (or tab group in general)? Since I'm having this issue

[delicate swan]

the zen update added an invisible item to the front, I'll try to fix this soonish

[delicate swan]

I just tried it out with my wip rewrite (since it should theoretically increase mod compatibility) and it works better than the current stable mod version. Not perfectly (but like nothing works perfectly in the rewrite yet x3 ).

You can try it out in this branch https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/tree/single-toolbar-support (here are instructions for installing the mod manually https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/15#issuecomment-2543892579 and please change toolbar mode to single toolbar or multiple toolbar mode with that mod version)

Please keep in mind that this version is very work in progress and will probably not be finished in the next 1-2 months since I don't have that much time

[mystic nacelle]

Thanks sis!

[lean plover]

oh v 1.1.3 is even worse for me .. it is moving above the top buttons and bookmarks etc

[near dirge]

Just copy the native code bro 🙏😭

It'll work just as before

[lean plover]

but that is only for sinhle bar mode? Im using the third option?

[delicate swan]

what is 1.1.3?

i don't remember releasing a version with that number

[delicate swan]

oh the version number got automatically increased because of some automatic code formatting thingy that happened for all mods

[delicate swan]

compared to 1.1.2 or 1.1.1?

[lean plover]

1.1.2 but the before 1.1.2 was okay for me like two updates ago

So should I try your code you posted above? When Im using compact mode or what it is called (the third option - I do not have it in english)

[delicate swan]

wait a lot of code changed in 1.1.3 and I didn't do anything o.o

or did it? im looking at the diff and im confused x3

did the auto formatting thingy that got run over every code eat one selector?

[delicate swan]

@near dirge I think your refactor commit removed at least one selector from my code (I'm going through all lines manually right now to figure out if there are any other differences)

[delicate swan]

this is what it looks like when I copy the native code

[near dirge]

Yeah sorry

Let me know if u send a pr I'll accept immediately

[delicate swan]

can the css files be excluded from the next auto refactor thingy? In that case I would just revert the file

[near dirge]

👍

the thing is that you arent detecting compact mode correctly

nah but nothing shoud've had changed

[delicate swan]

I just realized that as well, was there a change? So it is now :root[zen-compact-mode='true']: instead of the zen.view.compact variable?

[near dirge]

yep

the rest was just formatting

[delicate swan]

https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/968

[delicate swan]

btw I noticed this bug while trying out my compact mode changes (and I think I found a way to consistently reproduce it) https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/4630

[near dirge]

how?

[delicate swan]

i added it in the comments of the commit

[near dirge]

can u try in twilight?

[delicate swan]

repeadetly enabling/disabling compact mode while changing the hide toolbar/both/sidebar settings

i'll try

[delicate swan]

seems to be fixed

[lean plover]

Can confirm, working great! Everything is back to normal! Thank you!

[craggy pawn]

the weird space above workspace indicators is back as of the latest update, even when setting show-workspace-indicator to false it just pushes everything up 1 space but leaves the gap

tested with every other mod disabled and cleared userChrome seems to be isolated to the expand on hover mod

[near dirge]

fixed in next release

[craggy pawn]

god bless

[lean plover]

idk why but its again misslined ?

[vagrant verge]

@delicate swan is it possible to have any css be dynamic to the state of the browser. if in single toolbar mode, or in collapsed mode? idk if there is a certain selector/state i can use

[delicate swan]

this is the selector I use for detecting collapsed mode :root:has(#navigator-toolbox:not([zen-sidebar-expanded="true"])) there is also @media (-moz-bool-pref: "zen.view.use-single-toolbar") to differentiate between single and multiple toolbars

[vagrant verge]

that's amazing. do u also know any of right tab mode=true

[delicate swan]

#navigator-toolbox[zen-right-side="true"]

[vagrant verge]

tysmm

[simple token]

hey. I've been using this for a while now but lately I noticed that when I have enough tabs to be able to scroll through them the scroll resets to the top when the sidebar hides. any idea what might cause this/how to fix it? 🙏

[marsh marsh]

I had the same question :(

[delicate swan]

yeah i noticed the same issue I currently don't know what caused it/how to fix it

[near dirge]

i've fixed it dw

[marsh marsh]

I've done the update and its gone worse idk even how to describe it

I'll send a video

[near dirge]

in b6?

[delicate swan]

it doesn't scroll to the top anymore when closing tabs but still scrolls up after the sidebar collapses and expends in 6b

(not sure how much of that is fixable on my mod side I have no experience with scrollable stuff and css)

[lean plover]

Why is the settings icon like that?

[manic comet]

New icon

[lean plover]

No I mean .. not centered

[delicate swan]

yeah there is an invisible element in front of it, I'll try to fix that

[lean plover]

When I switch to the one panel and back to the compact it fixes itself till browser restart

[delicate swan]

yes it disappears when switching modes I noticed that as well

[lean plover]

hehe 😄

And what I noticed also is that he background is a little bit darker when open ?

It is on purpose?

[delicate swan]

i've only heard of the opposite problem so far uhhhhh

[lean plover]

Like it gets brighter? 😄

[delicate swan]

yes

[lean plover]

😄

closed

open

[delicate swan]

i know why it's getting brighter, but I have no clue how it could get darker

[lean plover]

I think it is not a big deal, but if it won't change colors it will be perfect 😄

[delicate swan]

this is the color difference for most people x3

[lean plover]

ye I mean the background of the hovering sidebar you know is changing colors

The top bar with the refresh button and back forward I have the same background as the sidebar

[delicate swan]

yes the not extended sidebar has the color of the top in that image

i just tried to show it in one picture

[lean plover]

oh okay

thats a big difference 😄

[delicate swan]

the difference is depending on the background contrast x3

[lean plover]

I have it only little bit darker when open .. as I showed

[delicate swan]

[lean plover]

but still this addon is the reason why I'm using the Zen browser so you are doing a nice job for us 😄

I used the firefox classic + sidebry and that was a pain to set it up

and I cannot live on a browser without this hover sidebar

[delicate swan]

did you maybe apply this workaround I posted a while ago? (that would result in the background getting a bit darker instead of a lot lighter)

[lean plover]

Yes I did, but with the update it gets removed no?

[delicate swan]

ahhh ok that's the reason why it gets darker

no the userchrome file stays the same

but if you remove it it might get a lot brighter instead

[lean plover]

It does not get replaced with an update?

oh wait , no

I did not apply this.

[delicate swan]

huh

then I'm very confused how it gets darker o.o

[lean plover]

I applied this #1316100064900284547 message

Thats the only change that I did in the file

[delicate swan]

that should have gotten replaced by the update

[lean plover]

it indeed did

[jagged finch]

Is there a way to make the popout the same color as normal tab background?

Popout vs normal.

[jagged finch]

(my colors are coming from windows transparency effects, anyhelp here would be awesome)

[echo horizon]

am I the only one whose tabs list has a massive forehead? Or is this a known issue that will be fixed eventually?

this gets fixed when turning the Collapsed toolbar off and back on in settings, but upon restarting the browser this gap re-appears

[regal thorn]

does anyone else have this padding problem? https://redy.discowd.com/3946_Settings_—_Zen_Browser_2025,02,24,10AM_x_I8TCkTWv5b.mp4

[flat flint]

yes, the latest update broke many things

[delicate swan]

I'll be back from vacation tomorrow and will try to fix stuff

[whole pagoda]

Hope you can get it working again, the only reason I haven't stopped using Zen after they broke the mod is that afaik there is no other browser out there that offers this feature part from Edge, but in Edge it's awful.
Apparently Mozilla is implementing it too.

[idle nimbus]

sad that I unintentionally updated zen, it broke the mod and drived me crazy

[idle nimbus]

  display: none;       
}

this is a temporary fix, I dont use the 'reset to pinned url' feature, so it does not affect me

[lean plover]

Where to put this? EDIT // Found it, thank you very much for it

[rotund moss]

Where did you?

[rotund moss]

@lean plover PLS PLS PLS

[lean plover]

in the chrome.css of the mod

[rotund moss]

THANK YOU!

[lean plover]

Can somebody please take a screenshot how it looks the open and closed sidebar? Do you have rounded corners?

[restive portal]

im not gonna lie, it has been quite a while since the updates did something good for my use case

might just downgrade to a lower version and change distribution settings so that updates don't show up anymore

[idle nimbus]

so this project no longer maintained?

The new update changed how split tabs look, so it looks weird when expanding now

[exotic lake]

And the tab jump up whenever I expand it (the padding around icons changes on hover)

Still the functionality is too good to remove the mod🥲

[idle nimbus]

have you try this fix? #1316100064900284547 message

[bronze wyvern]

it's fixed on the main branch of the mod but no relesae was made since (idk why)

you can find manual update steps here: https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/51#issuecomment-2688632642

[marsh marsh]

I've come to the step that I'm scared to do the update because every time I update this mod breaks and I can't live without it. Is it safe to update rn?

[obsidian atlas]

please could we get a release of the fix

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-with-bow-violin-hamster-girl-gif-14473982535061953593

[delicate swan]

sorry i wasn't doing that great the last few weeks and the pressure of so many people relying on this mod didn't help
I started working on it again today and I'm making good progress, so maybe a release today (which also include single toolbar mode!)

i've used the single toolbar rewrite of the mod the last 2 months and it broke way less during updates, so it should be easier to maintain in the future (I didn't release it yet because features were missing)

sorry again for not responding for like 2 months

[delicate swan]

Can someone try out the github file, before I publish it in case I completly forgot some feature?
Important note if you do that: You have to change to Single Toolbar or Multiple Toolbar layout depending on how the toolbar should look in the extended state.

(I forgot about compact mode )

[arctic verge]

is there a way to add a delay, like only after hovering over the sidebar for 300ms or only after 2 second hover will it open.

because i know it will get annoying if every time you move your mouse to the left the sidebar opens.

but if a delay was added then the only time it opens is if you intentionally want it to open

to be honest, compact mode does the auto open already, except that it doesnt not have a delay or an option to add a delay, which is why i never turn it on. because everytime my mouse goes even slightly over to the left side of my screen the tab bar will open and its annoying and not very "ZEN" if you know what i mean

[delicate swan]

it's possible but right now I'm trying to fix bugs first before introducing new features (except from the other toolbar mode but that has been a feature request from day one)

[delicate swan]

I think I'll disable the mod during compact mode for now, fixing compact mode would take too long and I think releasing a working version of the mod is more important rn

[delicate swan]

Created a pull request: https://github.com/zen-browser/theme-store/pull/1333

[exotic lake]

Does merging always take that long 🥲

[split juniper]

yes, zen mod has a very inefficient mod merging process

[manic comet]

not this long

[mystic nacelle]

It's been more than a week...

[delicate swan]

It's merged!

Important Information when you update:

Make sure to switch your browser layout to multiple toolbars/single toolbars, depending on what you want your expanded tabs to look like after the update!

[craggy pawn]

after the update there seems to be some weird bar chilling at the top

looks like this when expanded

[idle nimbus]

is this no longer working on a collapsed toolbar? is there anyway to rollback 😦

oh nvm, just need to disable compact mode

is there a way to make toolbar collapse like sidebar if I turn off compact mode?

[bronze wyvern]

hey since the last update my expanded sidebar is transparent (yes this is the expanded version)

i'm using single toolbar mode

(seeing https://github.com/Uiniel/zen-mods/issues/68, this is linux)

[delicate swan]

you can remove this [zen-compact-mode="true"], from one of the first selectors, but it will probably look bad/not work as expected

[delicate swan]

oh, I feel like I should just give up on making the background closer to the browser background and just add a color option for the sidebar background

[delicate swan]

have you tried the workaround in the issue?

[bronze wyvern]

not yet, i'll try tmr

[lean plover]

This is no more compatible with the compact toolbar? Oh no update for me then 😦

[languid gyro]

What do you think this mod does? The functionality is still the same, it just lets you use either multiple or single toolbar now

[lean plover]

Ye but I do not like single or multiple toolbar mod .. the compact is the best

[turbid flower]

Are you talking about collapsed mode? Why do you need this mod then

Using it on compact mode also seems a bit weird

[exotic lake]

exactly it feels pointless in that case

[lean plover]

wdym? for the tabs to be vertical and autohdiing / showing when hover

[craggy pawn]

but it already does that in compact mode natively

[lean plover]

what? natively was removed the auto hiding vertical tabs no? That what this addon was for?

[dim drum]

This add-on is mainly for auto-expand and collapse of collapsed tabs

[lean plover]

yes

I know

Im using it

[languid gyro]

then wtf are you complaining about?

[marsh marsh]

Welp new update and something just blew off I think

It entirely removes the tab section for me rn

[mystic nacelle]

So uhhhh, the plugin is busted when in Zen's expand tab mode

[delicate swan]

Yes since the last update of the mod you have to switch to one of the two other modes. I made that change to be able to support both modes

[delicate swan]

.

[mystic nacelle]

😭

[delicate swan]

if you choose multiple toolbar mode it should look and work like before

[lean plover]

The settings for the squred style of tabs is not here anymore?

[idle nimbus]

so scared to update nowadays. Nearly every patch seems to break the mods

anyone know how to show just 1 essential when collapsed?

[lean plover]

yep .. have this bug also

[obsidian atlas]

would like the same with pinned tabs

[manic comet]

We desparetely need native expand on hover

I still hope we'll get it someday

[regal thorn]

we did have it. Then it was removed in an update

[mystic nacelle]

Now I wonder when will they reimplement it...

[manic comet]

yea ik

[lean plover]

any fix ? pls

[sweet sentinel]

I like the collapse thing but i want it to expand when i hover. where can i start from tweaking this?

anyone?

[delicate swan]

I really can't find any motivation to continue maintaining (I already didn't do it for the past ~4 month tbh) this mod :c . If someone else wants to continue it: feel free to do it

[green swan]

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