(Fixed as of b3039) Inconsistent replay results when playing a song

[naive epoch]

Got this when playing Pro Keys.

[errant cosmos]

Can you send the replay file. It will be in the appdata location, scores/replays

[glad veldt]

i got one of my own, don't wanna clog up the forum but i dunno if it makes sense to send my issue in here

[cunning minnow]

Got the same on Guitar..

[cunning minnow]

Not seeing the scores folder in the appdata folder for YARC. Or in the appdata folder in general

[errant cosmos]

C:\Users\<your user>\AppData\LocalLow\YARC\YARG

then the nightly folder

[cunning minnow]

Ah, you should have probably mentioned that it's in the LocalLow. Otherwise most will assume its in the Local first. Found it.

[glad veldt]

here's mine, along with the chart hash

[cunning minnow]

Completely forgot about the hash.

[cyan bough]

funny you mention that, lmao

i also got one

[errant cosmos]

question is this happening for like, every song lol

[scarlet arrow]

i just got the exact same error

[errant cosmos]

very suspicious that ive had maybe 3 of these in the past 6 months and 2 of them were because of the replay file itself not the simulation lol

[glad veldt]

it's not i don't think

[errant cosmos]

now since the replay code refactor its happening a lot with no changes to the engine code since

ill investigate nonetheless but im suspicious

[glad veldt]

i think it's happening on the first playthrough of a song ever for me?

[cyan bough]

thats weird ngl

[errant cosmos]

yeah that shouldnt really make a difference

[cyan bough]

idk if the experimental whammy wouldve made a difference in my case bc i was using it to test it out

[errant cosmos]

nah thats purely an audio thing

[cyan bough]

huh, ik its not on every song for me, idk whats happening lol

ig thats makes sense as to why its nightly lmao

[cunning minnow]

Yet another, just now.

[pliant plank]

just one sustain does it LOL

[errant cosmos]

yeah i narrowed it down to sustains

[errant cosmos]

by chance what if the last note isnt a sustain

does that make a difference

just put a note after the sustain that has no length

[pliant plank]

does not make a difference

[errant cosmos]

does hitting the note at different times affect anything?

[pliant plank]

doesnt appear to make any difference no

ok it was just one plain open note????

[errant cosmos]

huh

[pliant plank]

in the replay its the same score

[errant cosmos]

send me the ini + chart file and replay in a zip

[pliant plank]

ini chart and the replay is all in here

[errant cosmos]

ty

yeah something is wrong lol

[naive epoch]

So... it's just FCing the song lmao?

[pliant plank]

or just playing anything

[cyan bough]

huh, its affecting vox too lol

yeah the replays are broken broken lol

[dusk ore]

same here lol

[cunning minnow]

Taps also seem to not function properly. Even if I'm holding down the green fret for example, any notes further up randomly get dropped. I know it's not an issue with my guitar, nor is it an issue with my machine.

Calibration is all in place.

Oh, also, extended sustains don't work on Pro Keys. It'll drop the note it was previously holding.

[pliant plank]

you should make a different thread for that

[opaque plover]

PRO KEYS BUG REPORTS

Hey all, changing this thread into a master "all pro keys" bugs so this forum doesn't get filled with a bunch of different threads

[cyan bough]

Okay, I'm done here then bc I don't have anything else to report yet lol

[opaque plover]

no please keep posting about the replay issue lol

the more stuff about it the better

but this trhread is also for like general weekend-one pro keys bugs

[cyan bough]

Okay then

[opaque plover]

Nevermind I didn't realize this bug wasn't pro keys exclusive

reverting thread

Inconsistent replay results when playing a song

[dusk pebble]

Same issue when playing Pro Keys, let me try it on a guitar chart with keys

Doesn't seem to be happening for me on non-keys songs

[glad veldt]

ye i forgot to mention mine was on regular guitar

[cyan bough]

Its keeps happening on every song i play 😅

[pliant plank]

i mean if its happening on one note songs

thats not surprising lol

[tidal grove]

saw someone else mention it but it would drop a sustain when i let go of a different note

[empty mural]

it's so bogus that you can't pin multiple posts

[frank laurel]

I'm using nightly and getting this same bug

[empty mural]

NIGHTLY: Inconsistent replay results when playing a song

[earnest linden]

also got one just now

[frank vector]

Same thing is happening here. Not with every song, but a bunch of them is showing this message. It also happens without pro keys.

[compact ocean]

hey guess who also got this

[empty mural]

who?

[compact ocean]

me

[empty mural]

oh

[final elbow]

I'm going to pin this one as I believe it is more important for the time being

[lament salmon]

odd bug. what could even be happening? are the replays like full on getting corrupt or...?

i have not tried going into any

[empty mural]

nah you can still watch them

[tawdry fjord]

Expert Keys specifically, didn't occur with Expert Guitar or Expert Bass

Last one, won't bother from here on

[civic laurel]

sustains

[pliant plank]

not just sustains its apparently something else

[errant cosmos]

if I play this song myself, I don't get it at all. Oddly enough your replay has some weird input timings for the first 2 inputs

[pliant plank]

wha

[idle estuary]

@errant cosmos

not weird

[errant cosmos]

i see

i missed that

the replay analyzer might not be applying the song speed to the engine then?

[idle estuary]

Yea, in any case, playing the replay back in-game makes everything match

[errant cosmos]

yeah I'm thinking this might be a replay analyzer bug vs engine issue

even for the ones getting affected by sustains

[idle estuary]

Game and replay both say 50 points, while the anaylzer shows 0

[errant cosmos]

what if you run analyzer with the simulate_fps option instead?

[idle estuary]

No dice

Set fps to 240 and still got 0

[errant cosmos]

hmm yeah

i think i discovered the sustain problem and it looks like its an engine issue

ok yeahhh the sustains are definitely an engine thing

I completely forgot to move the sustain queued update code to BaseEngine from GuitarEngine after I made sustains generic to all instruments

and I didn't account for sustain drop leniency either

😬

[fallow ivy]

is there a way to disable replay?

[errant cosmos]

no

and there wont be

that popup appearing is a serious issue, which is why its so in your face

[errant cosmos]

New Nightly update released which should solve some of these issues. If you still get the popup, please keep reporting it!

[glad veldt]

🫡 thanks for the quick work

[earnest linden]

Just got one

okay i just. got another

okay i keep getting it

[earnest linden]

(This is the GH1 Deluge build of the chart, if it matters)

im getting a real abundance of these now

[fallow ivy]

i'm getting this in some songs and anothers not

[earnest linden]

every single song ive gotten them on have been neversoft GH charts and GH1/GH1 Deluge

but not GH3 or GH5DLC Fireflies (only GH5DLC i have). for some reason

[dark schooner]

same thing, buuut i use linux, wheres the directory for that? lol

[earnest linden]

Deluge build version of GH1

i wanted to check something quick if it was an issue with the direct original game midis being read, but using the .chart conversions i made a while back yieled the same result

[fallow ivy]

now there is also a bug in whammy, when I try to do it at the same time as playing a note

it doesn't do anything

[fierce peak]

More dogshit pro keys replays incoming

[errant cosmos]

looks like this one is still sustain issues

[earnest linden]

interesting

[errant cosmos]

just analyzed this one locally and it got the same results 😭

so thats fun

[earnest linden]

if its anything i jsut got another one

[wraith rover]

ditto on this

[opaque plover]

(send the replay if possible!)

[wraith rover]

dont judge my playing lol

[errant cosmos]

anyone had the popup for drums?

[thick igloo]

got one just now on keys

[thick igloo]

and another

[astral coral]

Had it happen also. Kinda a scary thing to see after a stupid long song

[earnest linden]

on drums

[errant cosmos]

really annoying how i cant personally reproduce any of these on my own game lol

i literally never get this popup

@earnest linden @fierce peak @thick igloo out of curiosity what fps do you tend to run the game at? As fps gets higher the likelihood of problems tends to fall, while lower fps increases the likelihood.

Although I just implemented a lag switch on my game to try and force fps drops and lag spikes and even that didnt net me anything

[earnest linden]

144fps

consistent

[errant cosmos]

also maybe a far fetched question but if you play guitar/pro keys, do you tend to drop sustains fairly often? Or hold them all the way through

[earnest linden]

i try to hold them

ill usually hold them longer then the notes lasts

though if it’s a sustain to another note i let go a little early

[errant cosmos]

majority of the replays I get have sustain scoring differences, which usually will only happen if you drop the sustain somewhere and then the simulation drops it at a slightly different time

[thick igloo]

i hadn't touched the graphics settings in the new nightly, so if the game defaults to vsync then 165 fps consistent

[errant cosmos]

I then did see a couple replays with SP duration differences, which is really confusing because the number of SP ticks earned was identical

[fierce peak]

You asked that and I realized I never activated the fps counter on the nightly build, so I'm actually not sure.

It's either 60 or 144, I can't check right now, as I'm not home

[earnest linden]

i get it everytime i play the deluge build charts i've noticed? i did lose two sustains during this song

[errant cosmos]

can you dm me this chart

[earnest linden]

yeah

[errant cosmos]

thanks

[earnest linden]

ill send you all the deluge build charts i have converted

sent

[fierce peak]

Just checked, I've been playing on 60 fps

[errant cosmos]

Hey if anyone encountering the inconsistent replay popup on guitar/pro keys could try this development build, may have it fixed https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoZ83wzTtKL1sRv2IlCPfZxLBbftXoGV/view?usp=sharing

it is a development build so if you havent used one before you'll need to reconfigure all your settings/profiles/everything as data is stored in a different place to not conflict

also the replays produced on this build will only be usable on this build

uhh I may have built the game with actual unity debugging features enabled so if it asks "You can attach a debugger now if you want" when launching the game just click ok it will play as normal lmao

[fierce peak]

I haven't gotten a popup like above yet, but I am seeing this a fair amount. If you need the log file, let me know

Spoke too soon. Literally next song

[woven badge]

got one too

[errant cosmos]

Nah those errors are pretty normal. Unless you're using a midi keyboard and getting input drops like in #1287159335838810273 then it's not that useful

[errant cosmos]

just simulated this one, and the issue is something I already knew about and had written down to look at. This one should make it a lot easier for me to figure out why!

[fierce peak]

Yay! My one star score is useful!

[fierce peak]

I also am using a midi keyboard, but haven't noticed something like this. I'll test it when I get home

[errant cosmos]

found the problem, possibly. A pretty egregious mistake too

[pliant plank]

riley is this a outdated build?

[errant cosmos]

for pro keys, yeah

[pliant plank]

i got it on guitar

with that build

[errant cosmos]

send replay then

[errant cosmos]

can you dm me the song too, i dont have it

[pliant plank]

yh syre

[ashen bluff]

This seems to have happened with GuitarZero's chart of Cosmic Power of the Infinite Shred Machine by DragonForce

then again, I was spamming a bit during the solo, so maybe that tripped the inconsistency?

AA4F59EAAF335B89E7CB69B230320C86AFF68A29 is the checksum btw

[ashen bluff]

my bad, sorry for linking the chart

[pliant plank]

so this might make riley upset lol

[river hornet]

dopnt know where the replay is

[tawny vault]

You can find YARG's persistent data storage (scores, profiles, logs, replays, etc.) here:

• Windows: C:\Users\<you>\AppData\LocalLow\YARC\YARG
  • You can get here quickly by pressing Windows Key + R then typing in %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\YARC\YARG.
• Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/YARC/YARG
• Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/YARC/YARG

[pliant plank]

you could also go into history within the game, go to the replay, and export said replay

the latter method would probably be easier for ya

[river hornet]

another one

another

why am i even playing this game

[empty mural]

you're on nightly of course there is gonna be issues lol

your scores still get saved so

[river hornet]

its because clone hero is easier

thats why im wondering why im playing this

cant ghost notes

[empty mural]

oh

there's a casual engine preset that makes it feel more like ch

but it's preference really

[river hornet]

i would rather it feel like rock band though

i need to get better

[merry crater]

First time seing the replay message after playing like a week on drums with no issues

[sand sparrow]

Got this error on the sustains-and-stats build

Also, a question: I have gotten this error a few times on the nightly, but this is the only one that occurred on the special build when playing Pro Keys. Should I only be reporting errors from that build when playing Pro Keys, or do you want all the errors from the regular nightly too?

[cyan bough]

first time in awhile since i gotten this lol

[steel valve]

@kind hill if you can, upload the replay file this relates to so it can be checked over

[kind hill]

Horrid casual jam session, no one wants to see this performance, but here you go 😆

[cyan bough]

rip my open note practice replay ig

[kind hill]

Dont know how many of these you might want 😛

[earnest linden]

Deluge Build Bark at the Moon specifically

this is not a deluge build chart

[kind pulsar]

same issue here, here's my replay

[clear wren]

didn't screenshot the message, but i got one here
#accomplishments message

weird, there's an extra overhit in the simulation

[lament zinc]

Hey I got this as well. First time today after a 2 hour session. Pro Drums.

[empty mural]

Don't know why but I'm getting this super consistently with the new nightly update

[sand sparrow]

Got errors on 3 of the songs from the Children's Keys Pack 1 pack, posting them now

[deft beacon]

I guess everyone who got this error is posting it here! here's mine to add to the collection

first time I played this song I didn't get the error, but the second time, it came up

no changes to the chart whatsoever

[zealous moss]

tangentially related bug, the inconsistency popup can't be closed with controller input

[formal raven]

(RB3 DLC) Cheap Trick - Dream Police

Pro Keys - Expert

[empty mural]

you gotta strum then it'll highlight the close button

[glad veldt]

good to know but i'd argue that that's not particularly intuitive. my first instinct is to try the red fret (second instinct is green fret, but i wouldn't suggest letting green fret close it because muscle memory might make players close the popup just trying to go back to the menu)

[zealous moss]

ah yes, strum my midi keyboard

[errant cosmos]

or hit whatever key you bound to the down action in the menu bindings 🙂

(can be a midi input!)

[earnest linden]

was thinkign about how i havent gotten any errors since this new nightly but rightw hen i thought it there it was

wonder whats so special about me because i get this error at least once every playsession

[queen obsidian]

Looks like I'm part of this club now too.

[zealous moss]

lol

[deft beacon]

welp

[pulsar kestrel]

Just encountered one on pro drums

It apparently didn't save a replay, can't export it

[clear wren]

can you post your log?

[tawny vault]

Log files contain debug information that can be helpful for developers when diagnosing problems or bugs.
Each log in the folder is listed with a date. Please send the relevant log, which in many cases will be the most recent one.

Accessing Logs From In-Game

• Go to YARG's settings menu
• Click on "All Settings" on the top
• Scroll down to "File Management" and click it
• Click on "Open Persistent Data Path"
• Navigate into the logs folder

Accessing Logs Without the Game

If for whatever reason you cannot open the game, here's how you can access the log folder:

• Windows: C:\Users\<you>\AppData\LocalLow\YARC\YARG\release\logs
  • You can get here quickly by pressing Windows Key + R then typing in exactly: %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\YARC\YARG\release\logs
• Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/YARC/YARG/release/logs
• Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/YARC/YARG/release/logs
  (if you're playing on a dev build, it may be in the dev folder instead of the release one)

[clear wren]

hm, don't see any errors reported, it should have written

[pulsar kestrel]

It autosaved replays for all the other songs I played, except that one. I guess whatever bugged out prevented it from saving?

[clear wren]

can you check in scores > replays for it?

you don't specifically need to export it

[pulsar kestrel]

In the in-game History list, it says the replay for that song entry doesn't exist

[clear wren]

weird

[dusky atlas]

Yes it makes this to me too

[near scroll]

Also happened to me

[earnest linden]

am i cursed

[loud fog]

idk if the expected results are stored in the replay file

[sullen badge]

I get this message pretty often when playing on Guitar. I'm streaming from a NAS though, thought that was my issue.

[loud fog]

(justin isn't me, i just wanted to make sure it was mirrored here)

[steel valve]

Please provide the replay file if you have it.

[shell knoll]

🫡 Know it wasn't to me, but still

[earnest linden]

surpisingly got it on only playing vocals

[mighty pond]

happened on pro keys

[olive forum]

Happened on my own chart lol

[pliant island]

This happens every. single. time. i play. any. chart

ok whoa buddy holly is fine what

[errant cosmos]

If you've received the replay result popup, could you perhaps try this development build? Lots of various fixes from things that were discovered so play as you normally would. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K8v0jsLd37CmonG92FzsdYAniKq1NuUU/view?usp=sharing

[loud fog]

^ windows build fyi

[glad veldt]

first chart i tried on the engine fixes build 🧍‍♀️

[errant cosmos]

What instrument were you playing?

Also if possible the logs from this session would be useful

they're in the usual location but a dev subfolder instead of release/nightly

[pliant plank]

looks like guitar

[glad veldt]

yea it was plain 5-fret guitar
here's the log

[errant cosmos]

Ok the log should show some stuff if the popup happens, no idea why it isn't lol

And it being on guitar is just annoying lol most of the fixes were for that

[errant cosmos]

far fetched question because you might not remember but did you have SP active when the song ended

you could also just watch the replay (i cant i dont have the song)

[errant cosmos]

New dev build here, realised there was potentially still a mistake in how the replay is simulated at the end of a song compared to realtime. Also made it so that the stat difference (what makes the popup show) is always logged https://drive.google.com/file/d/16fQTb66g2p8eToAGCh2DSalhpYPRdpub/view?usp=sharing

[glad veldt]

just got around to checking and i did not have sp active. i'll play around with the new dev build now tho

[glad veldt]

boowomp
5-fret guitar again; attached the log too but from what i can tell it doesn't look like anything new got logged?

[errant cosmos]

ok so whammy is quite busted ive found

[errant cosmos]

also yeah just looked I goofed on the logging again lol. One word difference (was debug, should be info)

thanks to jaden though I got quite a lot of insight onto some of the issues and it was largely whammy

so I'll make another build shortly

[errant cosmos]

makes the build 6 hours later

3rd build, actually fixed some of the whammy issues this time. Should hopefully be it for that unless theres more to find. Will actually log this time I promise https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MouiKMOT5bJCYx_mcNm8MRP38a0CKIoj/view?usp=sharing

[errant cosmos]

would also very much appreciate drums/vocals/pro keys players to test this

[glad veldt]

been playing a good number of songs on guitar with no issues so far; can't do vocals but i can probably fumble my way through some drums charts for testing purposes

[errant cosmos]

alright nice. There are more whammy issues but they are super niche so it will be rare to come across it

anything else you find let me know

[fierce peak]

Well, I got one when playing vocals and wanted to share the replay, but something seemed to go wrong.

It's only that replay as well, the first song I played this session can have its replay extracted

[loud fog]

It always shows that when the replay is inconsistent, it should still be in the files where it would normally be

[fierce peak]

Here is the replay. Thanks, @loud fog!

I didn't have to do that in the past when I shared replays, good thing to know now

[bronze sparrow]

Playing guitar on nightly

[steel valve]

post the replay file if you can please

[spark cobalt]

Hi got this on one of my finished but to-be-released charts. If the devs need the chart as well let me know.

Where can I find the replay file so I can post it?

[loud fog]

<wherever your YARG config files are located>/nightly/scores/replays

[glad veldt]

you should also be able to go into History on the main menu and export the relevant replay, which will let you put a copy of the file into your downloads folder or whatever

[hybrid lance]

Is this an issue related only to the Nightly version?

[sand sparrow]

Got an error on two of the Jarod songs on Pro Keys. I didn't get a "clean" screenshot of the error, so my keyboard is in the corner.

[gleaming drift]

I just set up the nightly because stable wasn't working with my controller (strums wouldn't register no matter how I programmed it) and got this on the first play.

Another one.

... and other.

I'm not only playing GH2 tracks btw. It's just happening on them so far.

[gleaming drift]

This sure is a pattern I'm running into.

Just to show it's not all I've played. The rest didn't run into it.

[gleaming drift]

GH1 one this time

There we go. Pattern broken.

[gleaming drift]

And I'm done for the night after that one.

[hybrid lance]

Question: is it possible to disable the Replay feature in order to skip this error?

[final elbow]

Please see the update post #game-updates message

[hybrid lance]

Thanks!

[final elbow]

No problem!

[tepid field]

My game does not like the way I play 😭

[limpid prawn]

Got this just now

[steel valve]

Please post the replay file for this if you have it.

[olive forum]

I realize this is the wrong log, I'll repost tomorrow.

[empty mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332171406468710524/1332171407387267186/IMG_0022.jpg?ex=679448ce&is=6792f74e&hm=d6ef49677023f367f70b9c488b55249c9a1c6581d0c40ad7439657b04ad1f704& Forgot to download the replay. I can provide chart if needed, was Uro's Temple by Void222x

[sharp elbow]

man i get them more often then not

[fallow abyss]

Same here

[pulsar portal]

First time getting one of these on drums.

[buoyant fjord]

i don't know if this is exactly related but the game also doesn't recognize it as existing

[timber flicker]

Having this problem too

[primal forge]

Same here. Happens with every single song I play with every instrument. On top of that, upon the next time the game starts up, all the high scores seem to completely reset to what they were before this bug started happening

[rocky pollen]

happened after playing with guitar and vocals together'

it is consistent upon replaying the song

as in, it keeps producing inconsistent replays with the same instruments and song

[keen ingot]

Adding another one. What I'm noticing on vox is that if I push an activation to the end of the phrase (ideally to squeeze in another full phrase under overdrive - I'm a score chaser even in customs what can I say 😁) - that's when this tends to happen. I am getting points for the phrases on both ends, but I'm thinking something about the replay doesn't play nicely with those end of phrase activations

[inner blade]

What is this error about anyway? What's going on in the back end?

[tidal sierra]

Happened two times in this chart.

But does not happen every time.

[lavish willow]

happened with default engine

[lavish willow]

happened with default engine

[tidal sierra]

Another one. Mine are all on 5 fret by the way as that's all I play with atm.

[stray steppe]

Latest nightly.

Chart Hash: EFD2BF6862EDEABF0B4AC206C38176F4557F5B8D

[jovial frost]

me too, this is what i get after that screen

[pulsar kestrel]

Got one today, pro drums, latest nightly

[dire viper]

Pro drums, latest nightly build

[sweet slate]

pro keys | latest nightly build as of 3/29 9:23 pm

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums, latest nightly

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

Two songs in a row

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[earnest linden]

Guitar

[earnest linden]

Deluge build version of the chart.

[stark birch]

Gotten a few today

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[lament salmon]

has any progress been made on fixing this bug?

[pliant plank]

There has, but I forgot the exact reason why it hasn’t been rolled out yet

[opaque plover]

IIRC about 90% of this issue is fixed, but it's sitting in another branch right now while other engine fixes are being made

[olive forum]

Does that mean there's no point in reporting these anymore?

Or is that 10% still worth giving reports for

[opaque plover]

Never hurts in sending more

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[lapis wigeon]

Pro drums Been a while since i installed this build so maybe outdated

[sand sparrow]

Got a few errors while speedrunning the Children's Keys 2 pack, here they are now (didn't get a clean screenshot for most of these, just ignore my keyboard and hand lol):

[pulsar kestrel]

Pro drums

[primal forge]

I am once again having this happen on every single song

[keen bramble]

Got this problem right now after finishing a song

[solar pagoda]

i had this a couple times last night and once so far today

[minor light]

Yeah this seems to be happening for me with nearly every song since switching to Nightly. I use bots to play all the parts alongside me if that plays any role in this

I honestly wouldn't mind enough to complain about it if it didn't force me to walk over to my mouse to close to the pop-up each time lol. Why can't it just be green/red fret button to close it

[mental crystal]

dpad up or down will select the button

[keen verge]

I wish I'd read this two night ago when I kept going back to the computer to make it go away during a party.

[errant cosmos]

Locking this now due to new nightly. If for some ungodly reason you get this popup again on the new nightly please make a new thread so they can be tracked more closely