We often crave for more planets (wocfmp)

[quasi warren]

Ksp2's initial ultra planet pack in development. With the initial progress of Redux I thought i might as well start to show development on this planetpack for the time being.

• What is this planet pack about?
  WOCFMP is going to be having the kss2 planetpack vibe of multiple star systems created by starcrusher with ksp1 but however this is mainly my own twist of saying I'm making my own systems and there will be many star systems for people to colonise and explore.

• How many star systems will be added?
  I hope to have added about 5 star systems by the time of Redux's 1.0 release to give the player a full on immersive experience on the many varieties of star systems to explore.

The current progress at the moment is currently working on the first system of WOCFMP called the Gurke and Korka System which will include about 21 celestial bodies to explore (including the stars)
this pack will go under heavy development of me learning c# for once and creating some cool visuals for the community to see.

Currently i'm hoping that other systems will be compatible with this one such as Children yearn for the exoplanets and OPM. I also might try to have compatibility for ooh shiny! and Krispy when atmospheres are manageable and can be added to custom planetary objects.

Momentarily I will post progress every now and then for this pack but I hope that this is a project I'm willing to finish even with a tight schedule of having an education.

Current progress so far

[quasi warren]

this gas giant texture looks so good oh my god

[atomic birch]

You mean looks so wood?

[quasi warren]

it might look like wood

[quasi warren]

dolske my beloved

[quasi warren]

I have now started making textures for the Korka System

[left trout]

Are those textures all made using Blender's shader editor?

[quasi warren]

yes they are

i have a lil experience in texture making on blender so i thought i'd put it to good use

[left trout]

That's so cool, they look very nice 👍

[quasi warren]

thank you !

Current update:
Working on finishing textures and working out how you can add custom sunflares via unity

if i do work this out i'll be sure to post this as a seperate mod

all current textures atm

[quasi warren]

started textures for diana and the moons of it

[quasi warren]

im cooking

[viscid wave]

This going to be a separate mod, or part of redux?

[quasi warren]

seperate mod

im not a redux dev

[viscid wave]

K

I wonder if it will compatible

[quasi warren]

should be, this pack will be integrated with a couple redux features

[viscid wave]

Nice

You are making new system?

[quasi warren]

#1344620073809350706 message

have a read through this

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k

5 is more than ksp2 was offering

thats good

i like that

[quasi warren]

yeh, initially i just want to give people more of a variety of systems to colonise

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How many will have a surface?

out of the 21?

[quasi warren]

many will

ah

currently 3 are gas giants

Yerile, Barba and Diana do not have a landable surface

the rest should

[viscid wave]

I could put stations around them

[quasi warren]

yeah for sure

currently we dont have atmospheres supported yet so its more of most of the bodies will be pretty bland

[viscid wave]

Wait will it have tech tree expansions? Or do I need a separate mod for that?

[quasi warren]

ah no its only a planetpack

i dont intend to add partpacks to this

[viscid wave]

Any good interstellar parts mods?

[quasi warren]

currently no, however i think theres some in progress of being developed if you take a look through the projects thread https://discord.com/channels/1078696971088433153/1078701690762571866

[viscid wave]

Ok

I might assemble a list of mods i want in my server

[quasi warren]

your more than welcome to learn how to make parts if you have any experience at unity, c# and blender

[viscid wave]

Anyway thank you, I hope atmosphere can be added soon ish

[quasi warren]

https://modding.kerbal.wiki/index.php?title=Part_Modding helpful guide

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Oh I have never coded

thanks tho

[quasi warren]

neither have i lmao

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Oh

[quasi warren]

im very much not experienced with coding

[viscid wave]

So your going to learn, or get someone else to help?

[quasi warren]

likely learn

[viscid wave]

I see

I wonder

If you are good at textures

And we both are interested in interstellar mods, if one or both of us could learn how to code and make a mod pack for interstellar?

[quasi warren]

currently im focused on this at the moment

however

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Just a thought

[quasi warren]

@main quail at all are you experienced at coding or anything?

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I would tho

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Ik

I might find out how to make parts

idk

[quasi warren]

i'll definitely consider it but its likely that redux might introduce interstellar parts

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One big issue for me is I want quality

[viscid wave]

I guess it would

But the more the merrier

I can ask around

[quasi warren]

go ahead my guy

its definitely a good idea to have more of the community contribute to ksp2

[viscid wave]

Wait, small white dwarf with one lonely snow planet with 1-2 moons

I like that idea

[quasi warren]

yeah thats a nice idea

[viscid wave]

i will find something to do

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Ikr

BLACK HOLES

[quasi warren]

haha yeah

not yet

[viscid wave]

Why?

[quasi warren]

we dont have any of the black hole visuals properly worked out

[viscid wave]

Oh

[quasi warren]

its very much possible

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Oh the bending

thats hard

[quasi warren]

just we lack pqs shaders for it

[quasi warren]

yeah

[viscid wave]

pqs?

[quasi warren]

type of thing in unity used for shaders

eg: atmospheres and whatnot

[viscid wave]

Oh

And you said no atmosphere yet

[quasi warren]

yes

mr planety stellatedcube himself needs to work out how he can integrate atmospheres into custom planets

https://discord.com/channels/1078696971088433153/1083208636047839323 for the planety thread btw

[viscid wave]

Ok i gtg

[quasi warren]

alg alg

[random flax]

you need 0 programming knowledge to make new parts, just 3D modeling and texturing, and then following the guide

[quasi warren]

hi munix

[quasi warren]

finished the textures

better view of it

[main quail]

not really

I am trying to learn

but

I am my ways off making anything impressive at the moment

[quasi warren]

thats fair

[quasi warren]

i didnt wanna bake every singular texture one at a time
so i got chatgpt to just do it for me

im so productive

[main quail]

“I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.” Bill Gates

[quasi warren]

finally have all the textures organised

now the pain staking process of fixing their width and height

[quasi warren]

im so silly, the textures arent projected for vertical continuity at all

and now i have redo all the textures to work for spheres

fun

[viscid wave]

Indeed

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How do I turn on mods?

@quasi warren

[viscid wave]

nvm

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@quasi warren

[quasi warren]

yo

[viscid wave]

need textures

idk how to make them

[quasi warren]

make them in gimp

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Gimp?

[quasi warren]

free photoshop alternative

[viscid wave]

It works with Planety?

[quasi warren]

well

its a photo editing program

planety and gimp are two different things

[viscid wave]

So it will or wont?

Wait you use it?

And Planety?

[quasi warren]

planety is a ksp2 mod for planet making

gimp is literally just a program

not even related to ksp2

but yes i do use it

[viscid wave]

And you are making a mod through Planety

[quasi warren]

yeah

[viscid wave]

So they work

[quasi warren]

yeahhh?

[viscid wave]

Also, look at this synopsis, do you think this is good?

Not long

[quasi warren]

yeah no thats cool

i like it

[viscid wave]

It is made mostly of dry ice

it took some fiddling

But I like it

One problem

Notice anything interesting here?

[quasi warren]

your planet is orbiting kerbol past eeloo

if your trying to make seperate star systems

#1314607939234959390 message

should have info

[viscid wave]

Ik

But the Lines

[quasi warren]

yeh wbt it

[viscid wave]

Its not transparent

like at all

Look at Jools

[quasi warren]

make the colour for the orbit line darker then

[viscid wave]

Oh

I see

Dark green

Vs light blue ish

Now we find out if it does not like this

It does not

[quasi warren]

make sure the colour is in hex code

[viscid wave]

Yup

Converted

Hmmm

Why is it still so bright?

Wait darker

So

@quasi warren

What about this?

[quasi warren]

👍

[viscid wave]

Need shaders now

Btw my "Dwarf Planet" is smaller then the Mun

But Irl I think Pluto is smaller than the Moon

So

"Accuracy"

Totally

So gimp?

That is what you used to make this?

[quasi warren]

thats blender

[viscid wave]

Oh

So what do I use?

Blender? Or Gimp?

[quasi warren]

its your choice

i would reccomend you use gimp though

[viscid wave]

Why?

Is Blender not better?

[quasi warren]

do you know how to use blender at all?

[viscid wave]

Nope

[quasi warren]

yeah then use gimp

blender has a bit of a learning curve

[viscid wave]

But I dont know how to use any thing

[viscid wave]

So does Ksp 2

[quasi warren]

theres lots of useful tutorials online for gimp

[quasi warren]

uhhhh

they're two different platforms

i dont see how thats related

[viscid wave]

They both have a learning curve

[quasi warren]

ok then

[viscid wave]

I will look into Blender, if it does not work out I will change to Gimp

What are the sheets of textures called?

@quasi warren

[quasi warren]

wdym

[viscid wave]

This

How

[quasi warren]

they're the colour textures i made

i used planes

and then went to the shader editor and put a bunch of nodes together

[viscid wave]

But they dont work right?

[quasi warren]

no they should, im mainly just fixing them to work on spheres

which wasnt hard to work out

im mainly just reconfiguring the uv coordinates and whatnot

example a

im doing that to avoid the stupid little texture cut in the middle of spheres

shown here

[viscid wave]

Any good way to learn this?

I mean

[quasi warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOUoMi8ATU&t=13s

ive learned most of blender without tutorials though

but this should help

[viscid wave]

Ice world is not exactly the hardest type of planet

Ok

So learn through that, then make my own icy texture for my planet Eisig

[quasi warren]

yeah it should get you a basic start on working with nodes

mainly noise textures and color ramps should help

[viscid wave]

Noise textures?

Color Ramps?

Man I have a while to go

[quasi warren]

you'll be fine

[viscid wave]

Just Time

[quasi warren]

im sure you can get the hang of it after a bit

[viscid wave]

Guys

Progress

MORE PROGRESS

@quasi warren Where rendered view?

Oh not big

[quasi warren]

oh my golly man im trying to do my assignment 😭

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Mb

[quasi warren]

reworking this texture

it looks little off

much better

[quasi warren]

converted all to spheres

now i gotta rework a bit of the biome maps to avoid the purple tint

and then bake all textures and i should be good to go

[quasi warren]

enough work for me today

[viscid wave]

Dude

I am so cooked

No way I can make that

[quasi warren]

Progress report for today, ive officially begun the baking process for all textures

[quasi warren]

• teaser trailer

[main quail]

silly question

is there a way to bake without it take eternity

[quasi warren]

nope

[viscid wave]

Where?

[quasi warren]

not made yet

[viscid wave]

Ok

[quasi warren]

does anyone know how one could project a spherical texture onto a rectangular projection in blender

[viscid wave]

Yesnt

[quasi warren]

okay initially while i work out the process of fixing the Gurke system, I will end up working on a small system in the meantime to release for now

Trinus - Small white dwarf in which has finished its cycle of being a K type star
Konem - An icy rock being the subsided remains of an old civilisation that had not been able to escape their home system in time, now being a desolate world of only ice and rock

Belka - A small ice giant with many small moons

all i could come up with for now

[quasi warren]

Worked this one out by myself

turns out i really just needed to uv unwrap the spheres for a sphere projection

and then go to the uv editor and make a 1024x2048 texture to bake the spheres thing on

[quasi warren]

by the way, you can turn on cpu and gpu utilisation in blender so it uses both

might make baking significantly faster

would reccomend using smaller resolution too

so nothing like 4096x4096

usually takes longer to bake

[quasi warren]

yeahh

continuation on the gurke and korka system will happen after this release

[quasi warren]

Almost done with the Trinus system
all 6 bodies of the system have been added im now just tweaking the parameters to make it look good

[quasi warren]

Belka

[viscid wave]

Oh

Very Nice

I want

To send probe already

[quasi warren]

im aiming for a release today

so you'll be able to

[viscid wave]

Oo

Very Nicer

Although

My save with my progress will not work

With it

Very sad

Btw how many systems are there?

[quasi warren]

only one at the moment

[viscid wave]

Ok

I will probably get it, but I will progress on my unmodded save for the time being.

[quasi warren]

#1348167683643936838 message

released

[viscid wave]

Anything I need to do?

Other than install.

[quasi warren]

should be as simple as installing unzipping and putting it in your game directory

[viscid wave]

Ok

What I thought

[quasi warren]

should mention this too

[viscid wave]

I did that?

I think

[quasi warren]

is it put in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program 2\Planety ?

[random flax]

Heya, just one thing, would you mind specifying the license in the #1168292144507793488 post? We have it in the rules that all downloads for mods must either have it on the download page or here

[quasi warren]

ah yeah mb can do

[viscid wave]

Oh shoot

How do I get a license?

[quasi warren]

no its a thing we need to do when releasing a mod

[viscid wave]

Ik

[quasi warren]

to specify if its available for creative use and whatnot

[viscid wave]

I am making one

Sorta

[random flax]

https://choosealicense.com/ this website is very helpful for picking one

[viscid wave]

Not exactly working on it actively.

[viscid wave]

Thanks

It works alright @quasi warren

[quasi warren]

cool cool

lemme know if theres any bugs

[viscid wave]

Although I can presume you tested it.

[viscid wave]

Ok

[quasi warren]

yeah no i went over it a bunch

one think to note is the sunflares are a tiny bit buggy sometimes

[viscid wave]

What about my unmoded save?

[quasi warren]

shouldnt be affected

you dont have the mod enabled on your save so it shouldnt do anything

[viscid wave]

No I mean I cant use the mod on it

[viscid wave]

That is the problem

Main save is unmoded

I want moded

Hmmm

[quasi warren]

yeah i dunno

[viscid wave]

Uncapitalized btw

[quasi warren]

yeah ik

i'll fix it at some point

[viscid wave]

Ok

I am on exploration

Science

I might be cooked

200 hours just to get there

We need colonies so I can launch stuff from Eeloo

Also this @quasi warren

[quasi warren]

i just didnt add a description

thats all

[viscid wave]

Synopsis of Taiko

[viscid wave]

Ok

[quasi warren]

i'll add descriptions at some point

just taking a small break while im at it after texturing on blender and then chucking it onto ksp2

[viscid wave]

Ok

Fair

[quasi warren]

(LH2 ENGINE XL)
5000 KN of thrust in vac
1000 KN of thrust in atm

working on the design still

[viscid wave]

LH?

[quasi warren]

Liquid hydrogen

[viscid wave]

oh

So nuclear

[quasi warren]

erm

no

[viscid wave]

No?

Is that not hydrogen?

[quasi warren]

i dont know

im not a huge rocket engine nerd

[quasi warren]

k yeah something similar then

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Ok

[quasi warren]

considering this i might end up moving the Trinus system significantly closer to the kerbol system that way its easier for one to reach it instead of it taking like a billion years
to help one also get there I am developing 3 engines to be used

1. an XL LH2 Engine which should fit on the XL LH2 Tanks
2. a spike kind of engine which also runs on LH2 and its more powerful
3. more sophisticated xenon engine thats very reliable

im mainly going to do this later though

i'll most likely start on it when im on a 2 week break

[viscid wave]

I see

[main quail]

I WAS ONLY USING MY CPU THE ENTIRE TIME

i am an idiot

[quasi warren]

progress soon

just not in the mood to work on this atm because im sleep deprived lmao

[quasi warren]

I have a 2 week break of school soon

3 weeks from now iirc

so I will continue development during my break

[viscid wave]

dang

[quasi warren]

its a tuesday today, currently deciding if i wanna work on WOCFMP or do nothing today

[viscid wave]

Umm, no?

It is monday?

But go ahead

It would be very cool if you did more interstellar modding

[quasi warren]

ahem

timezones

my guy

[viscid wave]

You live in East europe?

or asia?

mb

Most people you will find online live in the US

I think

[quasi warren]

i am Australian

[viscid wave]

Woah

It is way later then I thought

nvm

that is everywhere else basically

So it is 5,6 or 7 am rn for you?

I dont know

Hey

Do you know of the Campaign For North Africa, the game?

[quasi warren]

1:41pm

[viscid wave]

Wrong way

[quasi warren]

i do not

[viscid wave]

I did it the wrong way

maybe idk man

[viscid wave]

Google it

Funny game

Takes

A """Small""" amount of time

only

2 months

straight

[quasi warren]

little something

[quasi warren]

revival

got bored so im gonna work on this again

removing the Trinus System for now
will return in the future

actually feel like making a roadmap

uno momento

i need this pinned here

[quasi warren]

WOCFMP Teaser

you wont get another one for another month

[quasi warren]

ah what the hell one more

[quasi warren]

4 planets of the Corsile system

[quasi warren]

Expanding corsi's planets a bit, considering making it a single star system

[quasi warren]

Progress, noticing my kind of style so far
Kerbol system Revamp? 👀

[crude rain]

gurke: yo

[native gate]

gurke: cucumber

[quasi warren]

Gurke: revamp

[umbral condor]

I'm pretty much on board with this (Mainly since I'm a fan of Kerbolar System revamps)

[quasi warren]

a Kerbol system revamp will likely happen when planety 0.3.0 releases, I'd need to leave kerbin as the same though because I'm not really aware how the game would react to missing kerbin.

some monuments on planets and moons too may be removed likely

[quasi warren]

tis a friday evening
Corsi system in development now + kerbol system revamp testing (yet to make textures)

that also means this

[quasi warren]

WOCFMP 0.2.0 Checklist - Corsi System Release & Trinus System Revamp

• Textures baked ✅
• Textures rescaled ✅
• System added to ksp2 ➖ (partially, diagnosing why entering an SOI crashes the game)
• Ooh Shiny added ❌
• Atmospheres and oceans added ❌
• Cloudy Support ❌
• Play tested ❌
• bug fixing ❌

Trinus System

• Textures baked ❌
• Textures Rescaled ❌
• System added to ksp2 ❌
• Ooh Shiny added ❌
• Atmospheres and oceans added ❌
• Cloudy Support ❌
• Play tested ❌
• bug fixing ❌

---

Sunflare Mod - this is a huge maybe in terms of being released with 0.2.0, unsure how to properly do this yet

• compiling remove sunflare assets into a mod ❌

---

Kerbol System Revamp testing (not expected for release for awhile)

• Textures baked ❌
• Added revamped planets ❌
• Ooh Shiny added ❌
• Atmospheres and oceans added ❌
• Cloudy Support ❌
• Play tested ❌
• bug fixing ❌

WOCFMP 0.3.0 Checklist - Gurke: yo (Gurke System release)

• Revamped textures ❌
• Baked textures ❌
• System added to ksp2 ❌
• Ooh Shiny added ❌
• Atmospheres and oceans added ❌
• Cloudy Support ❌
• Play tested ❌
• bug fixing ❌

[quasi warren]

yikes

i wonder how much GB wocfmp would be when it's finished lmao

@crimson egret how big is CYFTE in terms of storage?

[quasi warren]

all i did was convert the biomemaps to a 8192x4094 scaled image

[quasi warren]

progress

[crimson egret]

currently 837mb but its very bloated with old and unused textures

[quasi warren]

not as bad

[viscid wave]

I could play test

Maybe

Just a little

[quasi warren]

I haven't even made the system yet, will let you know when you can

still got a bit of redux collaboration work as well for a radiator which should be hopefully this week

[quasi warren]

0.2.0 Will include Ooh shiny support, and will likely release as soon as Planety 0.3.0 comes out

[native gate]

(it already has ooh shiny support)

[quasi warren]

i keep forgetting this

we often have dementia the planet pack

[viscid wave]

K

[hot knot]

Love the mod art

[quasi warren]

thank you, all made on blender and gimp

[hot knot]

Blender?
I was talking about this one

[quasi warren]

ah yeah that was all gimp
blender was used for the planet textures

tbf, i might end up redesigning the wocfmp banner lmao
needs a good redesign to fit the vibe of the pack

[quasi warren]

new wocfmp banner

[quasi warren]

WOCFMP Progress by the way

[dense crest]

@quasi warren for future reference how did you make the ring texture (i already know its just a strip with some lines on it, just wanna know your process of making a strip with some lines on it)

[quasi warren]

ripped the ring assets from the akitko template and just played around with it in gimp

[dense crest]

akitko?

[quasi warren]

whatever template planet @atomic birch made for planety

[dense crest]

where can i find

[quasi warren]

spacedock

[dense crest]

ah

goo

lagoon

[quasi warren]

revamping textures squared

im learning how i could make some planet textures better and unique instead of looped noise textures and voronoi textures

• skybox shenanigans

[quasi warren]

considering fusing some actual planet maps into wocfmp textures, and i'm definitely gonna spend more time on a singular body each so they all have some work put into them with effort

[dense crest]

thats what i do for most of my planets

[quasi warren]

i found it easier to do

[dense crest]

take ureski for example which is a heavily modified color map of jupiter

[quasi warren]

i did this today

[dense crest]

(spoiler alert: this might become uranus in MOP)

[quasi warren]

fused a makemake and mercury planet texture w a noise texture

[dense crest]

dude thats sick

can you tell me at least a long story short version of the process you use?

[quasi warren]

i have a natural talent at blender lmao

yeah for sure

[dense crest]

i have three years in blender and i still suck

[quasi warren]

mainly uses a bunch of colour ramps and colour mixing nodes with image textures or whatever texture you want to use

[quasi warren]

damn im going on 5 years so far

[dense crest]

nice

[quasi warren]

so this section here

mainly responsible for fusing both textures together

[dense crest]

do those feed into an image or something? how do you export it?

[quasi warren]

you see its 50% fused as both

[quasi warren]

havent exported it yet

but

you need to do uv unwrapping ona sphere to a map projection

or some kind

its complicated and takes an annoyingly long time to work out

[crimson egret]

how do u get heightmaps from it tho

[dense crest]

what i do is even more annoying i can assure you

[quasi warren]

put it in gimp and export as a GRAY16

yes that is the way i do it

[crimson egret]

also are you using equirectangular projection or just the uv sphere

[quasi warren]

the projection

i think

[dense crest]

i throw something together in gimp, usually a modified existing color map, i then think i fixed the seams, export it to blender to project it onto a UV sphere, only to find out i in fact did not fix the seams, take it back to gimp, actually fix the seams double check with blender and then i save it and it gets all dusty because i never end up using it

[quasi warren]

thats roughly a same process i do usually

i need to fix the seams on most of the textures i exported for the newest wocfmp system

anyway heres a baked image of the sample planet

rather not a baked image

[crimson egret]

looks nice

[quasi warren]

render

[crimson egret]

wouldnt it be very

noisy

from afar tho

[dense crest]

how many different maps do you need for a KSP 2 planet, im used to making KSP 1 stuff

[quasi warren]

yes slightly

[crimson egret]

just color and height for now

kinda sucks that theres no normal support

yet at least

cuz theres a lot more from what i know

[dense crest]

womp womp

[quasi warren]

the capabilities with planet modding is most certainly hidden to an extent as far as i know

[dense crest]

how do you make terrain textures?

is it just a normal map or is it a height map?

[quasi warren]

ive seen quite a lot when snooping around at the CelestialBody scripts

[quasi warren]

either blender, gimp or photoshop

[dense crest]

ik but what is it

[crimson egret]

ambientcg

[dense crest]

what does one look like is what i'm asking

i guess

[quasi warren]

rough idea

i just call it a colourmap

[dense crest]

no but like the texture of the rocks and stuff on the ground, like the little lumps and whatnot

idk how to explain

[quasi warren]

scatters?

[dense crest]

no not the scatters

[crimson egret]

he means

ground textures

[quasi warren]

ohhhhhhh

i dont touch those

[dense crest]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[crimson egret]

i never actually used them cuz hated how noisy they are

[dense crest]

lmao

[quasi warren]

i found them just a pain in the ass to add

[crimson egret]

i mean

[quasi warren]

its such a waste of time 90% of the time

[crimson egret]

i tried to add them

but i couldnt navigate throug my planety file after adding them to just one planet

so gave up

hopefully someone one day figures out the multi file thingy

[dense crest]

so its one of those "i'll add it as an update if i feel like it but i probably wont lmao" type things?

[quasi warren]

yes

[crimson egret]

i mean

[quasi warren]

@atomic birch did you end up finding how to get your atmosphere LUT yet?

or whatever it was

[crimson egret]

nvm cant find them

had a test file somewhere

with ground textures

but seems like i removed them oppsie

nvm

if thats even what u wanted

[dense crest]

nice

[crimson egret]

and thats how they looked in game

[dense crest]

did you make that?

[crimson egret]

not the textures

i think those are actually from the files oopsie

but

ambientcg has free textures

that work

i know some people in ksp1 modding use them

[dense crest]

now

call me stupid

but personally i cant use someone elses work even if its free

which is weird coming from someone who (in the past) has pirated multiple softwares

[quasi warren]

does your crafts always fall apart upon landing?

[dense crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-ksp2-kerbalspaceprogram-kerbalspaceprogram2-gif-26708100

[crimson egret]

ovin 4g's

[quasi warren]

that makes sense

[quasi warren]

ive only seen the new blender update today

and they added changes to the bump node :D

• node editor changes

horray

[dense crest]

oh sweet what did they do?

[quasi warren]

made it slightly more improved, and less low quality so it shows more detail while still bringing out a 3d feel

[dense crest]

ooh

[native gate]

blender always cooks on updates

[dense crest]

yeah

blender is probably my favorite software on the planet

[quasi warren]

little something

Nitra is planned to be something fun to explore, with some suprisingly unique planets and moons

one planet i will tease is Koral, yes exactly how it sounds it will be a habitable world though overrated it may be something unexpected

[quasi warren]

nearly finished documenting characteristics for the Nitra system, its just dwarf planets to finish and then start finishing the Corsi textures

[quasi warren]

just need opinions on this

[quasi warren]

I will note the 3 systems being added into one update will extend development time
(not like there was much of a hint towards a release date anyway )

||before the end of 2025||

There will be the extra 4 systems after this, but i plan on releasing them one at a time, and yes i have the next system names planned out already just havent added any characteristics

[pine swan]

favorite mod maker with a teto pfp

[quasi warren]

only peak content from a teto pfp

[pine swan]

Real

[quasi warren]

a draw

i'll let the wheel of names decide

so the Nitra system is planned to be released somewhere later this year then in wocfmp 0.3

[quasi warren]

wocfmp will continue development soonish, i have too much things i willingly volunteered to do at school
hopefully will continue septemberish

also kinda wanna wait for planety to update

[quasi warren]

Considering this by the way, I might completely revamp the Trinus System bc I don't like the current concept of a white dwarf at the moment

might end up being a star similar characteristics to kerbol, but slightly bigger

and 8 planets

we'll see I'm still planning that out

meanwhile beforehand I continue development I'm open to community Planets for the trinus system

so suggestions are welcome

planet is located in the habitable zone of Trinus

[pine swan]

Ok a cool idea I’ve seen is a habitable planet with atmospheres made mostly of fluorides, causing plastic plants, like in this video by Artifexian

https://youtu.be/fwauz9uIl9M?si=AVvOvXxfpWS7ifyW

[quasi warren]

this is a very interesting concept, I might look into it lowkey

[quasi warren]

i keep forgetting that ksp scale is 1/10 of the actual solar system

meaning i have to fix about 90% of the scales ive already applied

[quasi warren]

also heres a starmap teaser from version 0.1 to 0.3 of wocfmp
also added CYFTE stars just for the aesthetic purpose

[quasi warren]

middle star is kerbol i completely forgot to add that

[quasi warren]

Visual Revamp which was a mod i was going to make is now deprecated and being integrated into wocfmp's workflow for now

[quasi warren]

im already realising this may be a draw again

[dense crest]

lol

[quasi warren]

2 hours early but it looks as upsilon may win this vote

I will also bring out another poll for the characteristics of this planet

If you pick Binary then I technically already have the second planet's name thought out (Epsilon)

[dense crest]

@quasi warren will the other ones be used in this pack?

[quasi warren]

wdym

[dense crest]

from the last poll

[quasi warren]

yes

[dense crest]

sweet

[quasi warren]

lowkey giving this gaseous-giganticus tool a try

i couldve used hyper-v but for some odd reason it disabled itself off my pc after enabling it on a home edition

[dense crest]

how did you figure it out

i couldn't do it

[quasi warren]

like installing it?

[dense crest]

yeah

[quasi warren]

which linux distro first of all

bc i was using mint

and i havent even worked out what im doing yet

[quasi warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyA1j3RMQcI

[dense crest]

ubuntu

[quasi warren]

this may help

[dense crest]

thx

i'll save that

[quasi warren]

im not too sure yet im following it only now

the repo isn't as easy to get a handle of bc i dont use linux as much

[dense crest]

me neither

i havn't used linux since 2020 for like a month

[quasi warren]

all i know is what sudo does

and for installing software

sudo apt-get install git if you havent done so already

[dense crest]

i installed a VM on my PC with ubuntu just to run gaseous giganticus

[dense crest]

ive cloned git already

[quasi warren]

should be fine then

goodluck to you

[dense crest]

likewise

[quasi warren]

some work on the corsi system

finally getting back to it

now im gonna work out adding planety planets to ooh shiny which i hope doesnt take to long

[quasi warren]

@native gate does ooh shiny have a config or anything

and also does it work with planety planets at all, bc i dont even think it is

[native gate]

no

it works for everything

[native gate]

well your surface has to be shiny for it to actually reflect as far as I know

[quasi warren]

how on earth do i do that

is there an example or smthing

[native gate]

idk ask the planety dev

[quasi warren]

@atomic birch i remember you mentioning there are some unused parameters that may potentially work earlier this year, was there a reflection parameter?

[native gate]

try gloss

[quasi warren]

yeah but i dont know how on earth i apply glossy as one

actually wait

i might

[native gate]

it's just a float

planet.gloss_strength = 5; or something, I can't remember how the planety stuff works

[quasi warren]

it did not work

[quasi warren]

im having a peak through the planet code for this

gloss_strength is defined for the biome map bits

not sure if its defined as a proper thing you can do yet though

though i will note there are some key code things i noticed with planety involving skybox and flares

for like where they are found

which is kind of useful

[dense crest]

DEATH TO THE SUNFLARE!

[dense crest]

how do you modify the skybox?

something i've always wanted to do for KSP 1

[crimson egret]

idk why would a planet pack change ur games ghraphic

make another mod that does that

but make it separate

[dense crest]

yeah fair

[quasi warren]

actually fair point, I do meant to say that the mod isn't integrated with wocfmp but separate ad an optional install

[crimson egret]

we often crave for better ghraphics

[quasi warren]

complicated but lightingmanager is responsible for skyboz iirc

[crimson egret]

actually

[quasi warren]

planety has it mentioned somewhere so I might look into it at some rate

[crimson egret]

we often crave for visual enhancements

sounds better

[quasi warren]

beautiful name

wocfve

I might make it a configurable mod, for sunflares and whatnot

the skybox might take me a bit to work out so it might be added when the redux modding thingy is out

sooo that could be CYFTE configs

[dense crest]

idk about that

EVE sounds a lot better than WOCFVE

WOCFVE sounds like something a crackhead would say on his deathbed

[crimson egret]

thats the point

[quasi warren]

where do you think wocfmp came from

the point is silly abbreviations

[dense crest]

fair enough, my mod is called MOP

nothing will ever beat OWCA tho (Organization Without a Cool Acronym)

[crimson egret]

OWCA means sheep in my language

[dense crest]

i was wondering why i got a bunch of sheep when i looked it up

[quasi warren]

i hate how ugly my planet texture looks upon a descent

[quasi warren]

heres some notes i was jotting down yesterday

these arent 100% final, so take it with a grain of salt

[native gate]

You need some surface textures

[quasi warren]

biomemaps crash game

when entering soi

so i cant

[native gate]

Was it encoded in RGBA? Same resolution as the planet texture, etc?

[quasi warren]

same resolution as the planet texture?

also yes it was encoded in rgba

but now that you mention it i might give that a go

[native gate]

Is it like the same size as the main color map

[quasi warren]

no

colour map is like 4096x2048
biome map is 2048x1024

[quasi warren]

wdym by ect too

[native gate]

Also I'm pretty sure the planet textures are supposed to be square
(4096x4096, 2048x2048)

[quasi warren]

no i dont think they do?

im pretty sure thats only height

[native gate]

Doesn't hurt to try

[quasi warren]

valid point

still crashes

:/

[quasi warren]

@native gate should i try making the biomemaps square too?

[native gate]

Yeah

[quasi warren]

im curious, bc i realised the colourmaps are in rgba as well and i wonder if i make them rgb instead that it might solve the problem

[quasi warren]

wait no, you cant add rgba to jpgs

[quasi warren]

guess what

it worked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048679587401437196/1391615922552438784/Kasane_Pearto_Original.gif

[native gate]

[quasi warren]

still an eyesore though

i like the mountains but this hurts my eyes

[native gate]

well yeah adding biome maps won't make it look better you need surface textures

[quasi warren]

im getting to that

[quasi warren]

guess I'm learning c# today

[quasi warren]

pole textures 🎉

3rd planet of the corsi system i will note, haven't worked on the second yet lmao

i did put a bunch of effort into this too, it looks really nice

[quasi warren]

So wocve (thank you arekusu for the name suggestion its perfect) will be an additional mod compatible with many planet packs to be released (opm, cyfte, mop, ect).
wocve will be configurable with the option to change sunflare properties to your liking with scaling, colour changes and most importantly sunflare elements which means unused ksp2 sunflare textures can be used.

Skybox's will also be a major addition if i ever manage to work it out, which will also be configurable to give users the option to change the skybox how they please whether they prefer the pure void that is space or very brightening stars and nebulae.

this mod is still currently being planned, i'm very much open to suggestions for what could be added

[quasi warren]

either i'm doing something wrong or reflections are just buggy as hell for some reason

[native gate]

I have no idea what it's trying to reflect there

[quasi warren]

me either

oh okay i worked out why

if you put this >1 then it completely breaks the gloss

so this properly reflects atleast

no clue about planets yet though

like lowkey wheres the reflection here

[cloud imp]

That planet looks familiar

[quasi warren]

elaborate

[cloud imp]

looks almost like Dres

[quasi warren]

like what?

what are you talking about

[quasi warren]

i dont see anything

[cloud imp]

what

but its there

[quasi warren]

wdym

@native gate do you see anything

[cloud imp]

for real tho you should call the planet Panns

[quasi warren]

I might call another planet Panns, love the name though

[cloud imp]

but it sounds like Pants

[quasi warren]

lmao i have the perfect story for the origin of that name

[cloud imp]

yippe

Im claiming some land tho

[quasi warren]

gas giants dont have land

[cloud imp]

Then why i can I land on Jool

[quasi warren]

because jool has a surface

technically it's just a very large rock

[cloud imp]

but it called a gas giant?

[quasi warren]

arent most planets just giants with gas

im right though arent i

[cloud imp]

wouldn't the sun just be a tiny iron ball with a massive atmosphere above that

[quasi warren]

yes

[cloud imp]

im gonna go convince the US that theres oil on the sun cause we can technically land on sun then

[quasi warren]

technically you can, but gravity is too dense

[cloud imp]

Reminds me when I tried to land on Ovin (I crashed the atmosphere was too thin :( )

[native gate]

land at night

[quasi warren]

elite ball knowledge

im kind of scared for the final file size after the trinus system revamp and corsi system release

note that its 1.29gb with only two planets and 4 moons added

[quasi warren]

its still not going well as i did beforehand, back to tutorials ig on making a random 3d game

i was reusing old visual revamp code, got somewhere relatively but i need more knowledge so i know what im doing

[quasi warren]

Corsi planet 2

I'm aiming for like 2 moons with this one that are relatively warm environments

or maybe scorched

who knows

[dense crest]

MOP mentioned

[quasi warren]

cool as hell btw

[cloud imp]

hot laythe

[native gate]

That does look pretty cool

[quasi warren]

unironically when atmospheres and oceans come out, wocfmp is going to look 10x better

and even with wocve combined

[quasi warren]

someone give me good c# tutorial, lowkey I can't follow one without giving up in less than 5 minutes

[quasi warren]

I sort of think I might need time to plan this mod out more effectively and I kind of want to push the release of wocfmp 0.2.0 soonish depending if i want to wait on the planety update or not
so wocve will likely be developed after wocfmp 0.3.0

[cloud imp]

Are we able to give planets/moons ideas cause I got a moon idea for a gas giant

[quasi warren]

for sure

[cloud imp]

So its the first moon of a gas giant and it has an atmosphere thats thick (Like 2.5x Sea level pressure of Kerbin) and extremely stretched to like 200km or higher. The surface gravity is near 4.7 m/s. It has some lava on the surface and a equatorial ridge with a few volcanos in it. The poles however are much cooler and have cryovolcano's and some pools of liquid water

[quasi warren]

yeah I'll definitely look into something like that for a future system

likely for 0.3

[cloud imp]

Yipe

[pine swan]

Earth if it hit the gym basically

[cloud imp]

not really its gravity is almost half of kerbin/earth

[quasi warren]

alright see you guys in a few months

[cloud imp]

HOW WILL PANNS EXIST THEN

[quasi warren]

technically its been added already

[quasi warren]

what do you think the gas giant here was

[cloud imp]

not Panns

i think im servearly confused

[quasi warren]

nope definitely panns

[dense crest]

@quasi warren how did you make the banner?

[quasi warren]

gimp

[dense crest]

sweet

[quasi warren]

We often crave for more planets (wocfmp)

[quasi warren]

yes wocfmp will continue development soonish, i'm currently having a very very busy week but if i really feel like it then I will continue posting updates every now and then

[cloud imp]

I must land on Panns

[dense crest]

Wait a second

Assetto corsi

WOCFMP cars confirmed????

[quasi warren]

you know too much

[dense crest]

IT WAS A JOKE I SWEAR

[quasi warren]

mmmmmm

[quasi warren]

so how on earth do you make an asteroid

because i am struggling

[quasi warren]

corsi system so far by the way

considering if i want to add two more planets or 3 more

i thought of someting funny
wocfbf

we often crave for basic fixes

genius

i also fixed the name of WOCFVE so its no longer WOCVE otherwise it would've been called We often crave visual enhancements

back to work

[unkempt oriole]

We often crave more Engines ???

[quasi warren]

this would be seperate from your mod

i dont intend to copy anytrhing you do its mainly just silly much more future related engines

[unkempt oriole]

Yes ik

[quasi warren]

eg; warp drives and whatnot

[unkempt oriole]

Yeah fuckin sick mate

If you ever need help with making Engines (modeling, Textures etc ) I'm here.

[quasi warren]

for sure man i'll hit you up if i need anything

with proper credit added for sure

[cloud imp]

Holy shit its real PANNS

[quasi warren]

of course

[quasi warren]

Something nice that i'm doing is this moon called Logia which orbits the 5th planet of the corsi system actually incorperates logarithms to create the landscape it has

Its called Logia for that reason

[quasi warren]

heres the full node setup if you want to try something similar

[quasi warren]

Meloda and its moons

[cloud imp]

Is this the gas giant with my moon idea? Or is it in another system?

[quasi warren]

your moon idea is still planned for a future system

this is currently still the corsi system, i haven't fully started on 0.3 quite yet

[cloud imp]

Have you worked on 0.4 yet

[quasi warren]

perhaps

[viscid wave]

Nooooooo

Its been less than a month right?

also hi

[quasi warren]

im still working on wocfmp from time to time, still expected to release 0.2 this year

[viscid wave]

Yayyyy

How much fuel could you put into like an interstelar mother ship with landers?

Like as much as you want?

Just less fast, right?

[undone spear]

Are there any current plans for any music that will play on the new planets/moons?

[quasi warren]

yes there is, though i'm not a music artist so i have no clue what im going to do there

[undone spear]

I think I know a guy

[quasi warren]

you mean yourself

[undone spear]

mayhaps

using klueless after each sentence has become a staple of the ksp2 community

[cloud imp]

[unkempt oriole]

[cloud imp]

[unkempt oriole]

[cloud imp]

Did this work

I changed my name to :

[unkempt oriole]

Redux clone ngl

[undone spear]

All jokes aside I would totally write some tracks in the ksp2 style for all the new planets

[quasi warren]

I sent you a dm

[quasi warren]

Meloda progress

[quasi warren]

Corsi system so far
one more planet to go

and then its the trinus system revamp next

Kerbol - 16 places to explore
Corsi - 19 places to explore so far - adding 3 more
Trinus - 15-19 places to explore

[cloud imp]

Why is that soi so small?

[unkempt oriole]

thats not the Soi thats a Blender Render

He forgot to disable hud

[cloud imp]

Then why does the one on the left look like it has an soi?

[unkempt oriole]

wait nvm it is an Soi

idk

i thought this was the 3d cursor

[quasi warren]

its a moonlet of a moon

so the soi is expected to be a bit small

[cloud imp]

I thought it was a double moon system for a second

[quasi warren]

nope, haven't worked binaries out yet

[cloud imp]

I know how to do those

Thats how I made whatever the hell this is

[quasi warren]

well i know how to do them, its just the soi's of both bodies are the main problem

i haven't experimented them enough to know quite yet

[unkempt oriole]

normally you use one Soi for both planets in a binary right ?

[cloud imp]

Have you tried ajusting the surface gravity for the barreycenter

[quasi warren]

no both planets are going to have an soi

including the barycenters soi itself

[unkempt oriole]

oh ok

[quasi warren]

yeah, but idk a good value quite yet for a barycenter without it being like 900g's or 1g

• having a stable size to fit both planets soi's

[cloud imp]

welp only solution is making it 900+g

[cloud imp]

laytin.surface_gravity = 3500000000000; This is the barreycenters surface gravity for Laythe and Kerbin. I check the mass of both objects and combine them and try to make the barreycenter close to that

[quasi warren]

splendid, i'll look into a binary potentially for trinus

[cloud imp]

Heres the pack for reference if needed

[quasi warren]

confirming this, you can make stars have rings almost like asteroid belts

this is actually really niche

[crimson egret]

oh wow

cant wait to use it on my debdeb

once i stop procreasting

[quasi warren]

your WHAT

[crimson egret]

tuun

tuun

sahur

[quasi warren]

im currently debating if i want to
finish an assignment
work on wocfmp
or play silksong

adhd is a curse that is also a blessing

[quasi warren]

assignment first, silksong after then wocfmp later

and i'm using ksp2 for my assignment for a demonstration

[cloud imp]

I mean it is Rocket science and orbital mechanics, kinda

[quasi warren]

i ended up never using it

[cloud imp]

just yap on how to land and return from Eve

[quasi warren]

my assignment was about atmospheric entry

[cloud imp]

Eve got alot off that sooo it could workkkk

[quasi warren]

maybe next time

[cloud imp]

[quasi warren]

planet 6 of the corsi system is done

[unkempt oriole]

amazing

[quasi warren]

view from Yog

i worked out how to makee somewhat an asteroid

horray

[unkempt oriole]

YOG !

[quasi warren]

motivation for you to make interstellar engines

i'm proud of yog

[unkempt oriole]

Fission Pellets soon

[quasi warren]

hell yeah

[unkempt oriole]

Famous last words

[quasi warren]

don't worry

warp drive soon

(i've never made an engine in blender before)