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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:10 AM

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Oh lol

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What balue is that?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:10 AM

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value is 0?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:10 AM

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Nono

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Like paint a paint b comor

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Color

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The name of the field on the material editor

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:10 AM

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its white, should i make it black?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:11 AM

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Nono its fine like that

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:12 AM

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but they show up like this, which means in game thats what they look like

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:12 AM

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Hu

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Yup

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Thats exactly ehat it means

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Well not always but most of tje times

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:13 AM

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true

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but based off what i saw in game and what i see in unity, its what makes me think thats whats happening

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well, not happening, just an explantion of why its looking like that

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:14 AM

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That shouldnt@be it de

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Dw

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:14 AM

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i wasnt too worried just saw it and was like maybe it something idk

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in OAB it looks similar to this just very very dark. then on launchpad, its pitch black

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:16 AM

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Oab and flight are a bit difftent on how they are rendered

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:18 AM

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weird

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only using a normal map and it still does it

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:18 AM

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Try changing the shader

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:20 AM

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switched to standard and it still show sup like this

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:21 AM

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Work on the prefab level

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Double click it

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:21 AM

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what in the heck is this

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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And it should open a new scene

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Youre working inside the prefab

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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yup

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never done this

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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Any change made is automatically saved

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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You should always work like that when working with prefabs

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:22 AM

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good to know

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:23 AM

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But that has some limitations which sometimes are annoying

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Sir

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Why

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Does your addressaBles

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Not have

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Your prefabs?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:23 AM

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i just added them

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:24 AM

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Oh ok lmao

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:24 AM

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yup

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:24 AM

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They were there before right

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:24 AM

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yup

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i just unpackaged them

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added the big sphere

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:25 AM

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Hm

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Idk, try with that shader to see if anything changes

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:28 AM

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so i made two new materials called TEST and TEST2 using the SAME mesh and the SAME textures

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i just added a test object that has nothing added to it, its just bare. it looks very weird even though its using the same textures

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:29 AM

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AsukaDead

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:29 AM

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so upping metallic to 1 makes it look normal

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:30 AM

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Try with those materials

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Also

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Lets do something

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Unity uses chache to build the addressables

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And it doesnt know when u change things on the material

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:30 AM

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what the heck. now its just this bare no texture thing

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:31 AM

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So it will build from the cache

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:31 AM

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its like clay

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Drag and drop tbe materials into. The addressables

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This way theyll always be up to date on the addressables

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:31 AM

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then just shorten it to TEST.mat and TEST2.mat?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:32 AM

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No need

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Now try tbat

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:32 AM

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whats tbat

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:33 AM

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xD

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Now try that

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Build and launch the game

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:34 AM

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after it built the materials changed to black

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:35 AM

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Should be ok

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But if you wanna play it safe

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Also add the textures in

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:35 AM

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oab

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now with no paint

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:36 AM

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They dont look as black

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:36 AM

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its reflective-ish but not

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how does this little rocket make that?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Try only with the diffusion texture

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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diffusion is.... height/normal?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Thats the only texture you need suposedly

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Color

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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ah

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question

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Diffusion/albedo means color

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:38 AM

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what shader should i be using in substance painter?

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and would that cause issues?>

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:39 AM

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Nono dw

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:39 AM

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just asking

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:39 AM

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Thats only visual

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:41 AM

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its a mirror lol

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:42 AM

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Thats a shinny ball lmao

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:42 AM

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for realz

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sputnik looks way cooler now lol

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:42 AM

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Hoping for good news

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Lmao they shoudlve made sputnik like that

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:42 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:43 AM

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That says… something

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:43 AM

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no idea what it means

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:43 AM

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It deffinetly has to do with the shader

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Now

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Wait

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Question

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Are u declaring your parts

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In code?

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Colors. DeclareParts?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:44 AM

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son of a

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:44 AM

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No wait

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:44 AM

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i have no idea

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:44 AM

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You dont need to

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You shouldnt

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But if you it can cause problems

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:45 AM

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i dont have colorpatch and i know its in spacewarp

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but yeah thats what the plugin has

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and then ive got sizesUI.cs

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thats all its got

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:45 AM

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Do u have any other parts mod installed?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:46 AM

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i have an idea

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make sure KERN is still working

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ill just spawn all the objects ive made

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:46 AM

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Yeah xD

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:47 AM

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i know ive got maps to fix with kern

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game froze

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:49 AM

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Is kern using the same shader?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:49 AM

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yup

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:50 AM

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Try to put kern’s textures onto the baguettes

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:51 AM

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so this is one of the textures

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just use the diffusion?

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or add the others?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:52 AM

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All

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:53 AM

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all but the ao

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and no colormap cause i still have to make a colormap for inner detector

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:53 AM

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Why is the mio bias low?

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Mip bias*

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:54 AM

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no idea

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its teh default value

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:54 AM

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Put it as .8

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The default is .8

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:54 AM

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weird

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that was the only one that was low

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and it was the sphere

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everything else was at .8

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its a giant disco ball

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:56 AM

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Heh thats not the fiz im sure but it shouldnt be low

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Lmao it does look like one

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Try it in game!

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:56 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/discoball-gif-9500967

Tenor

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rave at the launchpad

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:57 AM

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If it works hten its deffinetly your textures

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AsukaDead

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Now swap all but the metallic texture

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:58 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 4:59 AM

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So FTT texture on all except, Kern metallic texture

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 4:59 AM

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swap them to what?

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ah

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:00 AM

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Yup!

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 5:01 AM

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ive got two projects from unity open (KERN & FFT), KSP 2 is running, substance painter is running and ive got gimp runing as well

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LUL

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:01 AM

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Lmao

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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so its the metallic map that's f'd

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Well

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Test in game first

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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well most likely the diffusion and metallic maps

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Yup

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Look i have to sleep at least a bit xD

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Check if your metallic channel on substance painter is L8

sick dagger Jul 17, 2023, 5:04 AM

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lol

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 5:04 AM

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It might be e porting the texture w the wrong format

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 5:04 AM

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ill need to readd the mask for paintmap

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should i rebake my mesh?

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thats what just baked

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full circle back to the white texture

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I just baked these in blender and they look 100% better than substance painter

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surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 7:28 AM

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think i figured out why it's all wild...

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even though i made a json the prefab doesn't have it

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 8:01 AM

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headed in the right direction

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when it just sits in OAB

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when i click on it to move it

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 10:18 AM

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surreal loom when i click on it to move it

Thats normal

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Kinda

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Well ill build it myself with the things u send me the other day

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:20 AM

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@surreal loom what materials have you used to create that effect?

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i wanna recreate what you've done with my export settings

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Unity

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OAB

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game

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actually forgot to change smth

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 12:03 PM

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sir

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@surreal loom

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i think i might know what it is

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i think you have a typo

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on the shader

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open the shader

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the first line

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Shader "Parts_Replace"
should be
Shader "Parts Replace"

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Found the issue

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reflection probes

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The game uses Baked reflection probes, and these probes target a certain set of shaders, which mine isnt in

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the reflection should work even if it was my shader being loaded, but since it isnt on this reflection probre white list it doesnt

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watch what happens in unity

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They probably do this in the game for performance reasons, which is totally valid, not every shader in the game has reflection, you dont need to calculate refletion for those shaders

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sorry for the headache, yesterday i didnt have much time to test this

manic trail Jul 17, 2023, 2:58 PM

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ME LIKE

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https://tenor.com/view/monkey-excited-excited-monkey-monkey-noises-excited-monkey-noises-gif-23721513

Tenor

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 10:00 PM

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LUL a typo ofc

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 10:20 PM

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@dreamy escarp new shader you posted fixed it. obvs ive gotta redo the baguette tank but thats okay. the shader works!

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 10:20 PM

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amazing, im sorry for the headache

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 10:21 PM

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dreamy escarp amazing, im sorry for the headache

all good. I don't mind being the guinea pig!

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glad you were able to improve the shader and figure out what was wrong cause i was absolutely clueless as to why it wasn't working

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 10:22 PM

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it was such a dumb thing too 😭
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surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 10:23 PM

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lol

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always is

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:02 PM

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:07 PM

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numbers ohhhhh fancy

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:07 PM

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yeah tweaking somethings

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gotta bring the metal down a bit

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metallicness

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but first its getting the color correct on the baguette

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:08 PM

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BREAD COLOR!

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:08 PM

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LMAO

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i really shouldn't...

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:08 PM

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SaySoon

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:08 PM

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but im gonna have to make an actual baguette for this mod

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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i'll finish a mod that lets you change textures

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and have multiple paint maps on parts

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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thats pretty dope

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that would be super convenient

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all you'd need is to have the files inside your mod to be able to pull from im guessing?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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well yeah you could merge all your parts into 1

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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so i have like texture_a, texture_b and then it would be those that get used

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?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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I'd prefer if you put the textures inside the addressables

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with a naming like that yeah

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:09 PM

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thats what i was saying

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it goes in the addressable

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and then if you name it properly it gets picked up by the mod

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:10 PM

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something like texture_methalox
texture_hydrogen etc

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:10 PM

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so it can use what youve added as a material

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well

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would it be material or actual texture?

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just for example

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:10 PM

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actual texture is better

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but i mean i can also make a material switcher

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i'll allow for both shrug

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:11 PM

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i think texture is priority and material would be dope

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cause then if you make 4 versions of something using materials

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it makes it easy to swap

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versus having to grab each texture

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question:

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does my color need to be the base level or top layer?

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dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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doenst matter really

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all you gotta remember is that

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layers stack

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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somehow im still messing it up

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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so if you have anything above your color

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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because it shows up white with no metallic affect

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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it will writve above it

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:16 PM

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ah

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that explains a lot then

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no way

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the stripes are rewriting it

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nevermind

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it doesnt have a mask

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so that would be why it isnt being mapped correctly?

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:18 PM

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depends

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whats going wrong?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:18 PM

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the only difference in the textures is that I have the stripes texture in cv 411

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so something is preventing the color and metallic in my maps

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so im making sure i have the maps setup correctly

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:19 PM

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huh

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the metallic texture for that is white right?

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:20 PM

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yup

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well no

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yeah. its .8 so its more white

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base color is a silverish color

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:20 PM

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show me the roughness view

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of your baguette

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:21 PM

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nothing in it

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hm

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:22 PM

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theres your problem

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remember this

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as i learned it the hard way xD

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:23 PM

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lol

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hard lessons

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:23 PM

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transparent pixels are baked as white in substance painter

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:23 PM

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ohhhh

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this makes a lot of sense

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:23 PM

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white pixel for roughness means it is as rough as it can get

surreal loom Jul 17, 2023, 11:23 PM

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so roughness is taking over

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hence why it shows as white

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the new roughness map

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look better?

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i see.. all my maps are scuffed

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gotta check all my maps before i bake

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these look way better now

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next tank im going to make sure the UV map is excellent

dreamy escarp Jul 17, 2023, 11:39 PM

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that one looks pretty good already

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:07 AM

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im a perfectionist

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lol

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weird

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not weird.

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lol

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another lesson learned... all of the little things you add need to be setup properly

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:19 AM

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oh yeah

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i also learned that one the hard way

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:19 AM

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lol

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i was like "hang on... lets look at all the maps. oh weird, why is the height map like this? ohhhhh... i see"

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is there a way to clear a mask without clearing the entire mask?

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okay so its the black texture thats screwin git all up

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@dreamy escarp does this look correct?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:47 AM

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surreal loom <@135118540377161728> does this look correct?

i mean

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i dont like the transparent pixels

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but if you want those pixels to be white yes

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:47 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:47 AM

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usually i always avoid transparent pixels

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are both white now?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:47 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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OH!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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no they've got the color and metallic

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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material settings

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wait are they right or not? xD

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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no paint

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they look very close to being 100%

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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huh

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paint map

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thdat might be it

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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last thing to do

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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how does it look?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:48 AM

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hm something is still adding white to both of them

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cause there's a hint of white in both

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now im going to see if i make the metal foil have the color and metallic values and cover the entire mesh

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if that helps

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now that the shader works properly, its definitely the fact that im not texturing correctly in substance painter

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progress.

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is that metal too dark?

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 1:04 AM

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A bit I'd say

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:05 AM

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thanks! ill lighten it up a bit. it looked dark just wasnt sure

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:12 AM

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i dont think its the color

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i think that its too shiny

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hard to tell tho

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:13 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:13 AM

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KSP2 metal color is hard to copy

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:13 AM

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the idea was to start super shiny and then rough it down

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ksp2 metal is weird agreed

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its shiny but its not shiny

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:13 AM

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well that takes some pacience that i dont have xD

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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once iget it looking decent im gonna make the next model

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thats why theres 0.2.0 and more versions

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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just in time

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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i can change textures once i have the models and mod working

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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to test my new project preset

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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true

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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hm

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:14 AM

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it has everything pretty and ready to go

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:15 AM

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thats pretty sweet

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:15 AM

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oh forget

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bro why

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i thought that it saved the layers :(

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:17 AM

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it didnt save the layers??

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so those folders are empty?

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well groups as theyre called in substance

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:19 AM

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theres actually not even the folders xD

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i wanna see if i can save this tho

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cuz they are very helpful

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i make them in every part

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:20 AM

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KEKW it looks so funny

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https://tenor.com/view/what-minions-minyonlar-sarıminyon-minion-gif-19408773

Tenor

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thats what it reminds me of a freaking minion LUL

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hm

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that really sucks

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i want to be able to have a template

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i keep forgetting to do that

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taht way the mask and everything is setup

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and all i have to do is load the mesh in

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i think thats the color

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its like a nickel color

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:22 AM

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You can group all the layers, later convert them to smart material, You can access the material you are created later on any other projects, extract the layers from the smart material. I think I am not wrong.

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:22 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:22 AM

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this might work

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:22 AM

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so yeah i think the baguette is g2g for v0.1.0

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:23 AM

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dreamy escarp > You can group all the layers, later convert them to smart material, You can ac...

that would be amazing

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ill have to test this out today

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now to fix the textures for this one then make the next model

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E2DCCE

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:26 AM

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dont

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if you're messing with textures

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save your colors has RGB at least

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xD

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:26 AM

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i figured as much

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:26 AM

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the best way to save them is as HSV tho

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:26 AM

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its why i wont be doing that til later tonight

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ive been using hex codes

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now to learn how the HSV code works

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just 3 numbers

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not bad

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:27 AM

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its easy

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HUE

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what color it is

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its a 0-360 value

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think of it like the color wheel

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Saturation, How colorized it is

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Value, How bright it is

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:28 AM

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differnt way to think of colors

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nice

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:29 AM

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and thats how you read that square

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:32 AM

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ah this makes sense

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that is easy

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:34 AM

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the whole thing with HSV is that you have more control over the saturation and value

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because, if you want things pretty, you dont make them BRIGHT RED

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nor BRIGHT GREEN

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its always a bit saturated

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:34 AM

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i feel like i didnt do srfAttach correctly

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:34 AM

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they are hard to master

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:35 AM

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i see why HSV is beneficial

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:35 AM

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basically this

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a node pointing outwards

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:35 AM

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does the .json get updated when im editing in the prefab?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:36 AM

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the json only gets updated

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when you click save json

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:36 AM

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good to know. wasnt sure how prefab mode worked

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:36 AM

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well the json is not native to unity

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tho im sure that we could change it to update with the prefab save

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but i think it would be costly performance wise

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and not every change on the prefab changes the json

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:38 AM

#

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do these look correct?

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just double checking. not sure what multi joint radius does or multi joint on single

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:39 AM

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everytime you use multijoint

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you have to set the radius offset

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else they wont work correctly

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:39 AM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:39 AM

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the way they work is something like this a sec

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:39 AM

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explains why i was having issues with it

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:40 AM

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purple is the node

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blue is the offset

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what it does is

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it creates extra joints

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X offset from center

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N number of times

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so in your case, youre creating 3 extra nodes, with 0 offset from the center

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put something like .5 and you should be good

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you also dont want the offset to be outside your part cuz it will behave way too strong

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:42 AM

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i see

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so for srfAttach i want to have the offset

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but for the top and bottom, no offset

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right?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:42 AM

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nono!

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you want to ahve offset lamost always

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for your srfAttach, depends

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should your part be strongly connected to another?

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i mean the baguette doesnt have that much area of contact

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:43 AM

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true

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:43 AM

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so imo it shount have a strong connection on any side

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but if you want to put it feel free

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:43 AM

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what i want to achieve:

four attachment points on the sides of the circular tanks

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so a total of 6 attachment points

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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Wait but, what for?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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but i wasnt sure how srfAttach would do that

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and its hwy i ask

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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oh you can only have 1 srfAttach

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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i may not need it

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as long as they can attach to each other

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radially

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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well i mean

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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unity crashed

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😦

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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xD

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you might be mis uderstand srfAttach

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:44 AM

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i think i am

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i was thinking it added a node to attach to

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:45 AM

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think ie mistery goo in KSP1

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it only has 1 attach node

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a srfAttach

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:45 AM

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oh

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and it can attach anywhere

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:45 AM

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which alows it to be surface attached to other parts

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not the other way around

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so when u set the srfAttach

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ur setting the contact point between ur part and other part

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when u wanna attach it to the side of other part

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ie

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a sec unity opening

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ksp2*

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the round dot is the srf attach

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:47 AM

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yup

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my brain was thinking i needed 3 more of those nodes

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:47 AM

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that point is the contat point

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ie the baguette

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has no stakc nodes

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:48 AM

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and mine do

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hm

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something ot think about

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:48 AM

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and you can still put 6 of them togheter

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all 6 attached via srf attack nodes to the middle one

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:49 AM

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this makes sense

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i was overthinking srfAttach lol

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:49 AM

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surreal loom and mine do

thats up to you if you want to put them tho xD

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you dont need to make them 100% equal to the stock ones

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:50 AM

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multi joint and multin joint max correct?

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oh i was planning on the top and bottom

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i like it. i get annoyed when trying to line them up myself

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if i want to mount radially awesome. other wise if i want it to connect to something, its super useful imo

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also i think for the tutorial screenshots of settings would help tremendously

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:51 AM

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surreal loom multi joint and multin joint max correct?

put a small radius on the multi joint radius offset

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:51 AM

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so when you explain the attach nodes, having a screenshot for someone to look at would be nice. just an observation is all

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0.3 ok?

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is my mesh collider too big?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:53 AM

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naah

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its fine

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might be a bit wonky in game tho

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you should make a cylinder in blender

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and use that

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:54 AM

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oh

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clever

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actually

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cv 411 is a cylinder

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well

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its got the round tops

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dang

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the inner part is a cylinder

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its what im jusing

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using

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so the mesh is the cylinder

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:58 AM

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i mean it works

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depends on how acurate you want the colider to be

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:58 AM

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oh

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so a cylinder with 64 sides would be more accurate

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:00 AM

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well

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wouldnt recommend

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that many sides

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for a collider

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maybe 24

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:00 AM

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for my reference cause im messing up 401's texture right now lol

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24 alrighty thats easy to do

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 3:52 AM

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KEKW

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need to fix the collider and the attach nodes

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alright time to design @quartz dagger tank

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how about a shape like this for a xenon tank? it resembles one of the xenon tanks we have in the game already, but it think i would look dope with some nice silver foil on it :)

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:00 AM

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🔥

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:00 AM

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we going for xs or small?

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:04 AM

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you know what, lets do small :p

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:05 AM

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dope!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:32 AM

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@quartz dagger ?

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before texturing

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thats just the model with a very basic color and metallic added

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let me know if i need to alter/change anything in the model

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:44 AM

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nope, looks great! clean and simple

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altho maybe it needs some kind of attachment plate at the bottom for the Dawn?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:45 AM

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hm

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got a pic of dawn. i can look it up but not 100% on waht the dawn look slike

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:45 AM

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sure, one sec

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xs and s sized xenon tanks for scale

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:56 AM

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ah

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so basically a bottom that lines up and is flat

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or realy the top

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since it attaches to the engine

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or

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something else hm

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ill come up with something

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:57 AM

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the top of the dawn is exactly XS-size, if that helps

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:58 AM

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I really wanna add a red and blue wire on the outside of the tank lol

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actually

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ill make the red and blue wire attach at the base i make

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ah

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but if you use multiple itll look weird

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dang

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hm

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 4:58 AM

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surreal loom ill make the red and blue wire attach at the base i make

oh that'd look great!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 4:59 AM

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well

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technically the engine attachs the wires

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if oyu look at the top part of the engine, it attaches to a box

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:00 AM

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yeah, the wires go inside the engine like this

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:03 AM

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thats cool that it does

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glad they did that lol

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:05 AM

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it really is a nice little engine, but i'm not really a fan of the look of the stock xenon tanks haha

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:05 AM

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haha

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i get that

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well soon.tm ill have a model working and friday youll be able to use it!

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do you want the metal to be similar to the engine or more like the image you showed me?

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quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:09 AM

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looking forward to it ;)) and feel free to choose yourself, but i personally think the darker metal would provide some nice contrast. and the engine can be painted in any color anyway, the one in the pics is just the standard unpainted look

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:10 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/stitch-maniatic-laugh-risa-malvada-laugh-gif-13172371

Tenor

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if i let them be painted in any colour...

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just kidding ill let them be painted

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theyll just be the first painted metallic objects in the game

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:13 AM

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all tanks in FFT or just this one?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:13 AM

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not sure if all

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CV-401 is not paintable. CV-411 has four stripes that are paintable

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it depends on how i texture and model it.

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:14 AM

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i'm not sure this one should be paintable actually

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:14 AM

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with what i textured cv models in i didnt see the point in having them be painted

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:14 AM

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especially if it saves you some work :p

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:14 AM

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its not hard esp with the shader that lux made

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this is in blender

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so it won't look like this in game but just an idea

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ill make a colormap and see how it looks and you can decide if you want the paintmap or not

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 5:17 AM

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looks a bit like a balloon now haha

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no no i'll let you decide, i have no idea what actually looks good or not xD

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 5:19 AM

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in substance painter ill do more but for now this is an example of just metal but a very light metal

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 6:46 AM

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@dreamy escarp what is xenon fuel called?

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ah ha! https://wiki.spacewarp.org/wiki/Resources

Resources

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i probably need to add module_generator to this since xenon uses EC

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surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 8:00 AM

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upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 8:00 AM

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Oh gods the slight rotation between layers is killing me

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 8:01 AM

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ah damn i didnt line them up correctly

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looks pretty good stacked together. thats a medium engine

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 8:02 AM

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Yeah, other than the misalignment they do

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 8:02 AM

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lol

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agreed

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there you go cheese

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looks cool on a lander

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there we go.

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now to get the SP-701 working

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i wanted to mess around with some stuff lol

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📎 LogOutput.log

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[LOG 03:37:09.225] [Debug] This 9f4eadb2-766d-46e0-98d5-7a263590ecb8 is connected to 478d0e3c-b541-4a12-ab5e-281263f71910
[LOG 03:37:09.232] [Debug] This eef8e2a7-b9f8-49d8-a3a5-2a4ec085f113 is connected to 793d75bb-ca14-48c1-8cfe-4c1929bbcae0```

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[EXC 03:36:35.457] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    KSP.OAB.ObjectAssemblyPlacementTool.<ShowSpriteForPartByName>b__133_0 (UnityEngine.Sprite obj) (at <57799b60a4cd4df8b3c9aec811d65aed>:0)
    KSP.Assets.AssetProvider+<>c__DisplayClass11_0`1[TAsset].<Load>b__1 (UnityEngine.ResourceManagement.AsyncOperations.AsyncOperationHandle`1[TObject] handle) (at <57799b60a4cd4df8b3c9aec811d65aed>:0)
    DelegateList`1[T].Invoke (T res) (at <11e2f4eda1124a9f83368725a730d057>:0)
    UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
    DelegateList`1:Invoke(AsyncOperationHandle`1)
    UnityEngine.ResourceManagement.ResourceManager:Update(Single)
    MonoBehaviourCallbackHooks:Update()```

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do I need to add something in my plugin for assetprovider to find the asset or do i just need to add using UnityEngine.Sprite; to my plugin? @upper summit

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 8:44 AM

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It should be in the addressable bundle?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 8:44 AM

#

#

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not sure if I named it correctly or if the CV-401_icon.png is incorrect

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maybe i need to remove the "-" ?

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or is there a label i need to use like parts_data?

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 8:45 AM

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Idk off the top of my head

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Ask lux?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 8:46 AM

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no worries. def will @dreamy escarp when you get a chance. i wanna make sure I've named my partsname_icon.png correctly and setup the addressable right.

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keep messing up a texture or the mesh is bad. not sure

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📎 Ksp2.log

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[ERR 03:50:33.818] [System] Exception passed from Unity.Addressables! [Unable to load asset of type UnityEngine.TextAsset from location Assets/FancyFuelTanks/Icons/CV401_icon.png.]

[ERR 03:50:34.990] [System] Exception passed from Unity.Addressables! [GroupOperation failed because one of its dependencies failed]

[ERR 03:50:35.010] [System] Exception passed from Unity.Addressables! [ProvideResources failed]

[ERR 03:50:35.018] [System] Exception passed from Unity.Addressables! [ChainOperation failed because dependent operation failed]

[ERR 03:50:35.030] AssetProvider unable to find assets with label 'parts_data'.```

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 9:52 AM

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📎 LogOutput.log

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📎 Ksp2.log

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 10:03 AM

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Wait @surreal loom where are you setting the path variable

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:03 AM

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thats the thing

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i realized i made a typo with my repo so i renamed everything and updated github

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and now when i build my addressables it's all messed up

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so im going through my unity project to see how to fix it

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:28 AM

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ah! i remembered! thats where i change it

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:30 AM

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surreal loom no worries. def will <@135118540377161728> when you get a chance. i wanna make s...

Yup that!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:30 AM

#

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thats what ive got. i went on a re-naming spree and finaly got it all situated

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:30 AM

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Well

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:30 AM

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the pain of renaming things

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:31 AM

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Rmo e the whole path

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You dont need to rename the material

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Only the icon

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:31 AM

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oh thats not what i went on a renaming spree for

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i just spent the last 2 hours renaming my mod on github and remembeirng how to make the change in unity so my addressables would be corret

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i named the repo "FTT"

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so i was like "ah how did i screw that up!"

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everything is now FFT

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but i think ive got the icon named correct

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partname = CV401

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Nop

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Remove the path

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:34 AM

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ah so its like prefabs and jsons

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does it still use parts_data?

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This value should be unique in the whole game, a good practice is to make your part name something like `modName_partName`this way you avoid it conflicting with any other part in game. Example `sorry_m2_rcsBlock`.

Note that Mk2 and Mk3 are written as `m2` and `m3` respectively on the partName```

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:37 AM

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Doest use label

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Amd ues like prefab ad json

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:37 AM

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i keep looking at the tutorial

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Sorry i just woke up xD

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PartName_icon

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:38 AM

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for the life of me i cant remember where i saw it said to do partname_icon

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Well

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The my first part tutorial

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:38 AM

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ah yes

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its in there

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i havent gotten to localization yet but thats up next

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after i get the sp701 tank working

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xenon fuel is a pain.

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AYEEE

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gotta figure out how to make it look better but for testing today, that works

upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Get a render at the 45 degrees away from and to the right with the sun to the north kinda view that other fuel tanks have

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:42 AM

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also @quartz dagger SP701 in the OAB and on the launchpad.

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Love it!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:43 AM

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oh i took a screenshot below didnt think about doing it in the scene

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obviously i have a lot of texturing to do

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and to figure out how to make it use xenon fuel correctly

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:45 AM

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upper summit Get a render at the 45 degrees away from and to the right with the sun to the no...

This + isometric

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:51 AM

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how does one render something in unity?

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:51 AM

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Thats tricky

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:51 AM

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i figured use the main camera

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then adjust it

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:51 AM

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I wont recomend u dive into that

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Just do that and printscreen

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It will be the same thing

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:51 AM

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thats what i was thinking

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i just cant remember how to move a camera in unity. lol

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nevermind

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 10:56 AM

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Looks great

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 10:57 AM

#

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not sure why i get jagged edges like that

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there

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surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:40 AM

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Parts/Title/CV411,Text,,CV-411,
Parts/Subtitle/CV411,Text,,ATOMIC'S BAGUETTE,
Parts/Manufacturer/CV411,Text,,FANCY FUEL TANKS by CVUSMO,
Parts/Description/CV411,Text,,"Tired of vanilla fuel tanks already? Model CV-401 is Cvusmos personal fuel tanks. Welded together like starhopper and requested by Atomic.",```

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Check the line ending

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Must be LF

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:41 AM

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i don't know what that means

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does it literally just end with xx, xx, xx, LF

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zzz,yyy,xxx CRLF```

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 11:43 AM

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huh

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would this work @upper summit

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:43 AM

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im just googling LF and .csv

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its what i found but its more on using .csv for excel

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📎 CV411.csv

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thats what i have so far just dont know how to convert it to LF and i dont even know what LF is

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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depends on what ur using to edit it

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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visual studio code

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but i could use anything

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need to download a csv thing

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

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notepad++ works

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any file editor actually

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and im pretty sure u can just click on that CRLF

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and change to LF

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try it

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:46 AM

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LUL

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yup

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so easy

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sheesh

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 11:47 AM

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and save

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 11:47 AM

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📎 CV411.csv

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saved it with LF

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Parts/Subtitle/CV401,Text,,METHALOX FUEL...,
Parts/Manufacturer/CV401,Text,,FANCY FUEL TANKS by CVUSMO,
Parts/Description/CV401,Text,,"Tired of vanilla fuel tanks already? Model CV-401 is Cvusmos personal fuel tanks. Welded together like starhopper.",

Parts/Title/CV411,Text,,CV-411,
Parts/Subtitle/CV411,Text,,ATOMIC'S BAGUETTE,
Parts/Manufacturer/CV411,Text,,FANCY FUEL TANKS by CVUSMO,
Parts/Description/CV411,Text,,"Atomic wasn't happy with the baguettes. Atomic wanted a silver baguette. Cvusmo made a silver baguette. It may or may not be edible.",

Parts/Title/CV401,Text,,SP-701,
Parts/Subtitle/CV401,Text,,SPACE PEACOCK TANKS,
Parts/Manufacturer/CV401,Text,,FANCY FUEL TANKS by CVUSMO,
Parts/Description/CV401,Text,,"Ever heard the legend of The Space Peacock? Model SP-701 is named after TheSpacePeacock.",```

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forgot to change the picture for one lol

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damn. didn't do the .csv correctly

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@quartz dagger

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upper summit Jul 18, 2023, 12:11 PM

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hmm, it may be closer to 30 degrees?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:11 PM

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ill get the thumbnails down later on

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for now they're placeholders but they may be 30

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also forgot to put Key,Type,Desc,English at the top of my .csv

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:13 PM

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its 45 for engines, 30 for tanks

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basically the game "shows the PoI"

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in the engines is the nozzle

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in the tanks its their size

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a have a semi functional setup for that but not near completion

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:14 PM

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no worries

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ill get them nicer looking but thatll be in a later update

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for now i just want them functioning so ive got a picture, and description of the tanks

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@manic trail @quartz dagger still gotta get the text for sp701 in

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-fix mass, temp, impact tolerance on all tanks 
-texture sp701
-.csv info for sp701
-model 2x hydrogen tanks
-model 3x methalox tanks```

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:19 PM

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btw

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i made the smart material

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:20 PM

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OM LAWD

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:20 PM

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literally just drop it on the part, on the start of the project, i'll show u

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:20 PM

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that is incredible

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how hard was it?

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bro thats sick

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:21 PM

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a sec, its outidated AsukaDead

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easy fix tho

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:22 PM

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no worries

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im about to eat dinner and unwind

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eyyyy @quartz dagger anything you want to change for the description?

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alright got my to do list and references. time to eat dinner and chill

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-fix mass, temp, impact tolerance on all tanks 
-texture sp701
-sp701 doesnt use xenonec. see if it uses xenon or xenongas
-model 2x hydrogen tanks
-model 3x methalox tanks```

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 12:39 PM

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it automatically sets almost everything

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all you have to do is work on the right layer

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and this is the result

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og what i just did

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 12:40 PM

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nailed it

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ill look at that tonight! this should speed things up

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-texture sp701 (watch lux's video and do what he did)
-model 2x hydrogen tanks
-model 3x methalox tanks```

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:04 PM

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its even better now

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fixed the paintmap, this is how it should look actually

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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What the heck. Those maps are awesome

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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yup! and all you have to do is paint on the right channel

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and they'll pretty much all come together

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its still missing a couple stuff tho

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a sec

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 1:28 PM

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after 2m41s of render

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 1:36 PM

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surreal loom eyyyy <@429988774898958370> anything you want to change for the description?

Hahah its perfect! I’m flattered :))

quartz dagger Jul 18, 2023, 1:38 PM

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surreal loom nailed it

Perfect fit too😂

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I’d maybe add ‘Because Xenon tanks need a little love too.’ to the discription to add some flavour to it

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 1:55 PM

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dude thats amazing

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:01 PM

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a sec let me send you the smart material

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:01 PM

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(obvs not sleeping yet or chillin because modding is lyfe)

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:01 PM

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xD

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no need for sleep

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Base Material folder is where u set up the base, so like, drag and drop watever material you feel fit

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Paint map, well its paint map

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Heightmap has 4 layers
Nails, Edges

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and then, if you want to add more detail you have the + and the - (high or low)

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:03 PM

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dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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and emission

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you paint your emission

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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so quick question

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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the Grunge mask, if you want you can adjust the opacities of the elements on the mask

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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since its a smart material, itll adjust to the settings i have on substance painter?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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nop

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smart material basically means that is a collection of layers

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now

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i recommend you use it on a new project, since it has everything already setup

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:05 PM

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kekw

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:05 PM

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i mean ti works xD

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ok

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:05 PM

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its easy to just hide a folder

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:05 PM

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so now, bake all the textures

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and see the magic happen

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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4090 lets get it boii

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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you can change your gpu from gaming to work setup

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and its like 5x faster

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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how??

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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but i dont recommend since its shitty asf for gaming

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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oh

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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well idk on nvidia

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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and with modding thats annoying

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:06 PM

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also its easy to switch back and forth

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:07 PM

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having to swap back and forth

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oh

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if its easy

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thats not too bad

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:07 PM

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but you have to restar tthe computer

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:07 PM

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thats lame

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it bakes fast on the 4090

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:07 PM

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yeah, but it is significantly faster for 3d software

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:07 PM

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literally everything is maxed out

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takes 2 mins or so curious how long this bake takes

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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probably 30 seconds

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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no lol

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everything is at 8192

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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You dont need that definition

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actually you shouldnt

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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what?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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for small parts use 2k

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for big parts use 4k

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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hm

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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above that its just killing the player's performance

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:08 PM

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i figured for everything use max

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ohh

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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i mean you can

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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well, rip PC master race

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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OH wait

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you mean for baking

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or the export texture?

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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yeah

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baking not the actual textures in unity

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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oh that doenst matter much

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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in unity i make stuf 4k

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:09 PM

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but you also wont see that much diffrence

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4k-8k you only see a diffrence if you REALLLy zoom in

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:10 PM

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so its like the 120fps vs 244 fps

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:10 PM

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but you can still work with ti shrug its up to your liking

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yeah you could say that

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:10 PM

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since my pc is a powerhouse it makes me feel like im making the 4090 pay itself off

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lol

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do i need to bake these mesh maps after everytime i make changes to the textures?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:11 PM

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nop

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only if you change the meshes

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:11 PM

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i was baking the mesh maps first, and then i would do my maps

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:11 PM

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usually you bake them before you make your textures

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:11 PM

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okay cool i was doing it in the right order

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

Tenor

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:19 PM

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surreal loom <@727602572407603330> <@429988774898958370> still gotta get the text for sp701 i...

I'd prefer if you refer to me as AtomicTech, not Atomic lol

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Btw, it's looking awesome 🙂

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:19 PM

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ok Atomikku-kun UwU

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:20 PM

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ez fix!

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:20 PM

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manic trail https://tenor.com/view/who-pinged-me-ping-discord-up-opening-door-gif-20065356

https://tenor.com/view/cat-spiritus-summon-vintage-fountain-pen-gif-22872604

Tenor

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:20 PM

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surreal loom https://tenor.com/view/cat-spiritus-summon-vintage-fountain-pen-gif-22872604

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-doom-summoned-victor-von-doom-power-gif-15859330

Tenor

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:21 PM

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dreamy escarp ok Atomikku-kun <:UwU:644600946118098944>

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:21 PM

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this acceptable, good sir?

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ATOMICTECHS BAGUETTE

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:22 PM

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you should make that the name

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:22 PM

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Is it possible to do AtomicTech's Baguette?

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:22 PM

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the subtitle is meant to give a brief description

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:22 PM

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yes

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:23 PM

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Y'know, the ' thingy

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:23 PM

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so Xenon fuel tank

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or something like that

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:23 PM

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lol

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:23 PM

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surreal loom this acceptable, good sir?

Asides from my brief suggestion, it's more than acceptable my fellow gentlemen

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https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-salute-hat-off-condolences-jack-sparrow-hat-off-gif-18163964

Tenor

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:24 PM

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i dont see why id need to name it the type of fuel in the description since it's already categorized in the methalox category

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i mean

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i could be like AtomicTech's Baguette (Meth fueled)

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KEKW

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:25 PM

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surreal loom i could be like AtomicTech's Baguette (Meth fueled)

https://tenor.com/view/caos-bob-esponja-crisis-patricio-gif-23199341

Tenor

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:25 PM

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manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:25 PM

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surreal loom i dont see why id need to name it the type of fuel in the description since it's...

You can add the name of the fuel

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Upnate day is my favorite day

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Here's some examples of stuff that I've written for KSP

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ONe mo

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"Grab any old RTG, preferably a damaged one, and pump fuel through its small hot radioactive core into a nozzle. The result is a very small nuclear rocket engine. Thrust is low, cost is relatively low, but ion drive fanatics won't mind. Warning: Warranty void if exposed to radioactive materials."

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"The direct predecessor of the AT-TREL "NERVO" Solid Core Thermonuclear Rocket Engine, the AT-TREL "NERVO KR" Experimental Solid Core Thermonuclear Rocket Engine, originally the JTR-XPL "Eeloid" Solid Core Thermonuclear Reactor Core Engine, is an experimental prototype that ran a lengthy series of tests in the post Kerbin Konflict II, Kold War Era, proving that Thermonuclear Rocket engines were a viable propulsion solution. PorkWorks would later adapt this technology into the KANDL engine while Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spacecraft Parts Co. would recase the engine and create the wildly popular LV-N "Nerv" Atomic Rocket Motor and AtomicTech Inc. would adapt the Nerv to create the NERVO. Later, as soon as AtomicTech Inc. purchased the rights to the J-Tech Catalouge, the JTR-XPL "Eeloid" Solid Core Thermonuclear Reactor Core Engine would once again see the light of day again as the AT-TREL "NERVO KR" Experimental Solid Core Thermonuclear Rocket Engine, ready for flight."

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:27 PM

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good lawd

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got any descriptions you want to use for your fuel tank?

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:27 PM

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I really miss writing part descriptions 😢

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:27 PM

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surreal loom got any descriptions you want to use for your fuel tank?

Lemme look 🙂

surreal loom Jul 18, 2023, 2:27 PM

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dope

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:27 PM

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"After the invention of the Multipurpose Propellant, the engineers at AtomicTech Inc. rushed to make all different kinds of ice cream from all different kinds of snacks. Eventually, someone suggested their use in the place of the particularly dangerous and expensive Hydrazine. Warranty void if attacked by giant spiders or if spilled."

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Here's an okay one

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"Originally from the SpaceTux Industries catalog of acquired assets, the engineers at AtomicTech Inc. converted it into a state of the art resource conversion module for surface bases. This module was named after the fictional town from Neil KeGrasse Kyson's Planet Earth in which the character Homer H. Hickam Jr. first began his career in rocketry. This module was adapted from the Advanced Research Laboratory and uses its ample space to refine raw ores into valuable resources. WARRANTY VOID IF USED TO PROCESS COAL OR OTHER FOSSIL FUELS."

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Here's one for a habitat lol

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"Through exploitation of the natural decay of Klutonium-238 with the help of some specialized chemicals, this somewhat elegantly simple power generator can provide consistent, stable power for a really long time. This highly recommended that you build this using either SimpleConstruction and Extraplanetary Launchpads on your base/station instead of trucking it to your desired location."

dreamy escarp Jul 18, 2023, 2:28 PM

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surreal loom i dont see why id need to name it the type of fuel in the description since it's...

well thats how the game does it

manic trail Jul 18, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Here's one for a glorified RTG

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Man

#Fancy Fuel Tanks DEVBLOG