KERN - Kerbin Council for Nuclear Research (Particle Accelerator) | KSP2 Redux | Page 2

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:53 PM

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back to occlusion tho

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when u build addressables, it uses cache to save time

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i think thta its not detecting the material changes since your material is not on the addressables

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thus when u click build addressables it goes like
"is this guy a dummy he made no changes 😠 "

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:54 PM

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lol

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so like that?

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wait i need to add my material to addressables?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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no need

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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okay phew

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lol

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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i mean you can if you want tho

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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not right now lol

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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but unity already packs them behind the scenes

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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this week i focused on learning paintmaps

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:56 PM

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either way

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theres a way to do a clean build

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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its on the Build> submenu but im not sure what option

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yeah a clean addressables build

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ck1-game-of-thrones-go-t-thrones-what-is-this-sorcery-gif-8071854

Tenor

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 10:57 PM

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makes sense

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i purged it jsut now

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wusing clean build

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https://tenor.com/view/purge-button-press-fast-gif-17107922

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when creating a frame and bolt look like on an airplane, what do you use in substance painter to do that?

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nope its still doing that thing

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where it doesnt actually paint, puts a layer of base paint over it but doesnt paint the part

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so the male connector actually paints and it has a bunch of stuff that it doesn't need to have

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like ao and emission

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:06 PM

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wierd wierd

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:07 PM

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I break everything lol

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:08 PM

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lmao naah its probably something that im missing

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hmm

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it does seem like its still not updating the material

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which is wierd

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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make a new material then?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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no need

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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hm

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:09 PM

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maybe remove the paint map texture, and build the addressables

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to see if it anything changes

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:10 PM

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how would i see a change in unity?

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willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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nop

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:13 PM

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so it paints but without paintmap it just paints the entire thing

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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lol

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:15 PM

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and with paintmap, it doesnt paint

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https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

Tenor

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:15 PM

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my guess is that somehow its using the wrong material

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:17 PM

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i dont need to have color added into the pm channels right?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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nop

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:19 PM

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LUL

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i think i know why

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could this have messed up the paintmask?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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that should be ok

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nop

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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dangit

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:20 PM

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since its at the bottom

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hmm

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honestly im a bit clueless since it never happened to me

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double check the part's materials on unity

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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it's so weird. with the paintmap, it just doesnt work lol

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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this is of one of my parts ie

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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why is B red?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:29 PM

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that makes no difference

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actually

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not for you rn

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but it will in the future

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:30 PM

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good to know

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:30 PM

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i have a version where you can see the painting in unity

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:30 PM

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thats cool

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:30 PM

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i have to rewrite the shader so everyone can use it tho but yeah

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tho you probably couldnt reproduce your problem

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beucase this shader is very buggy rn, it doesnt replicate the game's 1:1 yet

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:31 PM

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no worries

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it couldnt be the shader either

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becuase the shader works fine with other parts

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made a new material

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deleted the old one

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i figurted it out

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i had two materials named the same thing

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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you're changing one but the part had another?

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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no

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i had two materials named Base

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one was being used

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the other wasn't

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wouldnt that cause issues?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:37 PM

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shouldnt cause

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:38 PM

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nope didnt fix it. dang

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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its still taking the main diffusion texture

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the boltplate is orange

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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so

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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theres something wrong with the shader or the paintmap

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:40 PM

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thats whats causing the issues

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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one of those

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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hm

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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try changing the paintmpa texture

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to a all white texture

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you can get one from google or just make one in photoshop

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:41 PM

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k

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paintmap is the issue. i removed the diffuse map entirely

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:44 PM

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well that doesnt say it is the issue

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if it was

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then the all white texture

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would make that be the accent color, so the whole part would be blue

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:45 PM

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hm

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what i did first was to test without a diffuse map

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without a paintmap, it paints but it paitns everything

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without a diffuse map, i still get the same effect where the paint is overlay'd but doesnt actually paint anything

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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wait

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you didnt make it 100% alpha?

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it still has transparency

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gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:46 PM

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yeah, didnt you make that texture opaque bfore?

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:47 PM

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no but i can see what happens

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:47 PM

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put the alpha to 1

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:47 PM

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amazing

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first time ever seeing that because ive never used unity properly LOL

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i can either check or uncheck. i cant set it to one?

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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oh no

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on substance painter

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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ohh

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:48 PM

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then copy the result to unity

gleaming junco Jun 30, 2023, 11:50 PM

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redid it in substance painter, imported it into unity

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haven't changed anything yet

willow prairie Jun 30, 2023, 11:57 PM

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yup!

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:05 AM

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two things:

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its transparent and is causing issues where it doesnt change teh color of hte part, it just lays the color over it kinda

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and this is the map i used, but it still didnt work properly

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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notice how te blue is still transparent?

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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yeah

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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it shouldnt do that

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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agreed

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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probably not the root cause tho

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:08 AM

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i had to manually paint things

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but anytime i make the paintmap, i end up with everything transparent

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:08 AM

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you can use the polygon fill tool

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from substance painter

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theres a settings that allows you to paint the whole part

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or just squares

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:08 AM

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yes but when that exports as a _pm i still get a transparent image

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:08 AM

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remember, the transparency comes from the pm_alpha

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:09 AM

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so even if i do use the polygon fill tool it doesnt fix the issue

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pm alpha is set to 1

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so is that full transprency?

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:09 AM

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full opaque

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but you can paint the mask as only .5

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ie, if you paint a part of the mask as .5 and the rest as 1

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that .5 part will always be half the rest

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so even if you set the pm_alpha to 1

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:10 AM

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oh shiz

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:10 AM

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that .5 area will still be .5

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:10 AM

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what i did is i painted EVERYTHING with pm_alpha

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and EVERYTHING with pm_dirt

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:11 AM

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that should be right tho

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:11 AM

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this is what i get when i open it up in gimp

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all of these are set to grayscale as well

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the _pm is wrong for some reason

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i just made a new RGBA and this is what i got

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:14 AM

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gleaming junco all of these are set to grayscale as well

they should

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hmm wierd

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:14 AM

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yeah

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super weird that hte template was doing that

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but remaking the RGBA and it works

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well

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well, we'll see if it actually works

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:15 AM

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check if it works in game

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yeah

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:18 AM

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here we go

novel star Jul 1, 2023, 12:18 AM

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You mean, "here, hold my beer"?

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:19 AM

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wtf.

novel star Jul 1, 2023, 12:20 AM

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It's so not red...

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Well, the outer rings are a duller red...

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/yes-lawd-my-precious-gif-13073178

Tenor

novel star Jul 1, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Excuse me? I'd like to speak to the management. I specifically ordered an extra large linear accelerator with RED support structure... This aweful primer colored metal is going to totally clash with the rest of my livingroom decor!

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:23 AM

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now the game is setting my accent color to teal?

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novel star Jul 1, 2023, 12:24 AM

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I think that last one looks a bit... poxy

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So... the accent does the bolts, and the base does the ring?

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:24 AM

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well

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base = v base thing and ring
accent = boltface + male connector extrusion part

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but i cant get the base to change color

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it just puts a shade of color over it

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made a new diffuse color texture

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weird

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welp, starting from scratch.

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boltplate = all 4 channels
basefloor = 3 channels no accent

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 1:48 AM

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i have zero idea @willow prairie

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@hexed wigeon any suggestions?

hexed wigeon Jul 1, 2023, 1:59 AM

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I was summoned ?

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Ideas for the colour or new parts ?

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 2:00 AM

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hexed wigeon Ideas for the colour or new parts ?

I'm not sure what's happened or why a model I've made doesn't want to apply the paintmap properly.

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figured i'd ping you and ask if you had any ideas why without a _pm it paints the entire model just fine but with a _pm it doesn't paint

hexed wigeon Jul 1, 2023, 2:04 AM

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I don't even know how to do that, I've stopped at making a model in blender

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 2:05 AM

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ah no worries i appreicate such a quick response!

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 2:55 AM

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getting closer. just need to separate the accent now

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 4:06 AM

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so confused. this paints everything with the base color and NOTHING from the accent is added

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 7:28 AM

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i now can use the base/accent colors BUT not how i want

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sad

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 11:58 AM

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FINALLY!

hexed wigeon Jul 1, 2023, 12:17 PM

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may I suggest making a collider ring to eventually make antimatter ?

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:17 PM

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thats the plan

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wait one

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so this is the linac

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i plan on adding all of THAT and then itll ahve muon experiments, neutrino experiments etc

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that attach to it

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but first gotta get the linac functional and it shooting particles

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this is the first BIG experiment that im going to mod once i get the particle accelerator working

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:54 PM

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@willow prairie

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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🙏 good

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good job :D

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 12:59 PM

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willow prairie good job :D

It was worth all the pain.

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Basically something was wrong with the model. I recapped the UV and rebuilt the whole model. Did substance paint and boom fixed the issue

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Not sure what was wrong with the first model. Maybe UV map was scuffed idk

novel star Jul 1, 2023, 1:41 PM

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Nice work! I love how the supports can be colored.

willow prairie Jul 1, 2023, 1:42 PM

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gleaming junco Basically something was wrong with the model. I recapped the UV and rebuilt the ...

it looked like the model was dupped but im not sure, tho im glad you fixed it!

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 10:19 PM

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novel star Nice work! I love how the supports can be colored.

Same! I still need to do some detail texturing to the model but the frame is almost done!

gleaming junco Jul 1, 2023, 11:39 PM

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gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 3:15 AM

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still more to do but its getting there

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 7:12 AM

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i just spent 2 hours texturing the wrong model

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https://tenor.com/view/ok-crying-sad-emotional-sentimental-gif-20646670

Tenor

novel star Jul 2, 2023, 1:27 PM

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You just spent two hours practicing and honing your texturing skills on something that you don't care if you fuck it up so that when you do the real thing you'll be ready to do it right the first time.

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 1:49 PM

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look at this masterpiece

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its a bit too glossy

novel star Jul 2, 2023, 1:51 PM

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What's it made of, plastic?

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Looks like epoxy resin

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 1:52 PM

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its just painted metal that im playing with

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but wanting something different than just scratchy paint

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i wanna see what this looks like in game now

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potato:

willow prairie Jul 2, 2023, 2:15 PM

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you wont see the full potential in unity

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 2:15 PM

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i assumed but had to know

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lol

willow prairie Jul 2, 2023, 2:17 PM

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i mean with the test version of the shader you are able to see its full potential

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but im focusing on LFO's in game editor

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thus not much progress on the shader for now

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 2:17 PM

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no worries on my end. im still learning how this all works

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 2:40 PM

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I've learned theres a few problems with my model that are causing issues when I texture it

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so having to rework the model

willow prairie Jul 2, 2023, 2:48 PM

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thats how u learn to always take UV mapping into consideration when modelling lmao

gleaming junco Jul 2, 2023, 2:48 PM

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never realized how important a good UV map is until now

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cries internally

willow prairie Jul 2, 2023, 3:14 PM

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fortunately making a good uv map is not hard, its just a matter of knowing where to place seams

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you can make the most complex mesh in the world have a good uv map with the right seams

gleaming junco Jul 3, 2023, 12:33 AM

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everything gets a seam. klueless

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getting distracted by math and learning how ibeams bend

novel star Jul 3, 2023, 12:53 AM

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Welcome to third year Mechanical Engineering. At least that when I think I got Statics and Dynamics for the first time...

gleaming junco Jul 3, 2023, 1:05 AM

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lol i went electrical

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explains our relationship in a nutshell

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https://tenor.com/view/did-we-just-become-best-friends-did-we-just-become-best-friends-meme-step-brothers-best-friends-besties-best-friend-gif-23405805

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novel star Jul 3, 2023, 2:00 AM

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Well this does explain some things! You can’t spell geek without EE… 😉

gleaming junco Jul 3, 2023, 5:36 AM

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few things to tweak and the texture is done!

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-remove RG from bolts on finPlates
-change frame color from green to a neutral color```

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@willow prairie thank you for all the help. It finally make sense! I think the texture is starting to look good.

gleaming junco Jul 3, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Really thankful I have a 4090

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willow prairie Jul 3, 2023, 12:44 PM

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gleaming junco <@135118540377161728> thank you for all the help. It finally make sense! I think...

np! i dont know why it wasnt working the fisrt time, what you have there is the same thing, but reversed xD

gleaming junco Jul 3, 2023, 12:44 PM

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willow prairie np! i dont know why it wasnt working the fisrt time, what you have there is the ...

Im 99% sure the issue was entirely bad UV mapping that caused a lot of issues

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Now the template is baking fine and I've got no issues with masks and paintmaps

gleaming junco Jul 4, 2023, 8:10 AM

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getting final details done. the waveguide has all the new textures and the detector has the old version

gleaming junco Jul 4, 2023, 1:13 PM

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Complete redesign of the detector. decided to go with more of an Atlas experiment look

gleaming junco Jul 4, 2023, 4:17 PM

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this is the atlas detector

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so this is like a baby version of it because the atlas detector is 4 stories tall

novel star Jul 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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gleaming junco this is the atlas detector

I know what that is! It's the worlds biggest (and most expensive) Pachinko game!

mighty ocean Jul 5, 2023, 2:03 AM

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gleaming junco look at this masterpiece

Your bolts have too many poly

gleaming junco Jul 5, 2023, 3:41 AM

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mighty ocean Your bolts have too many poly

High poly to texture. Low poly for game

gleaming junco Jul 5, 2023, 4:28 AM

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This way I get more detail for the models and still get good performance. If I model low poly textures I'm limiting myself. It is more work to do it this way BUT I also have the time to do it this way as I still need science mode and colonies before this mod makes it into the game.

mighty ocean Jul 5, 2023, 9:34 AM

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I know the procedure it’s just that in this case it’s not really necessary

gleaming junco Jul 5, 2023, 12:24 PM

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This is my first time modelling with substance painter and blender. I've modelled with autocad and solidworks. I'm intentionally doing it this way because I want to get better at modelling and I enjoy high poly

mighty ocean Jul 5, 2023, 12:29 PM

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oh alright haha. Yeah it a totally different workflow to model in poly coming from CAD

gleaming junco Jul 5, 2023, 5:32 PM

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mighty ocean oh alright haha. Yeah it a totally different workflow to model in poly coming fr...

yeah it is lol. im so slow with this but enjoying it.

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so much to learn

gleaming junco Jul 5, 2023, 8:46 PM

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gleaming junco Jul 6, 2023, 2:24 PM

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gleaming junco Jul 6, 2023, 3:44 PM

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this is why i wanted a high poly to texture with. I can just polyfill things in. I think it will be faster and more accurate than trying to do this with a low poly model. its also very enjoyable. Taking what I've learned of masking the paintmap and applying it to different colors on the model

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green is just so i can see what isn't painted yet because black was too hard to see

willow prairie Jul 6, 2023, 4:07 PM

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u can do it with a lowpoly too

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but you have to have your model well segmented

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which in your case its pretty complex to do xD

gleaming junco Jul 6, 2023, 7:08 PM

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willow prairie which in your case its pretty complex to do xD

I have my workflow down to a science.

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https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

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gleaming junco Jul 7, 2023, 11:42 PM

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hexed wigeon Jul 8, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Umbrella Corps is that you ?

gleaming junco Jul 8, 2023, 12:15 AM

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hexed wigeon Umbrella Corps is that you ?

Preserving the health of the people!

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Working on getting base colors/Metallics how I want. Then adding electrical wires and more details to it

gleaming junco Jul 11, 2023, 7:05 PM

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gleaming junco Jul 12, 2023, 9:42 PM

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I've been on holiday this week so not much done with KERN. I am working on the height maps for the detector though

white shale Jul 13, 2023, 3:41 AM

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Hey another update! Keep up the good work

gleaming junco Jul 14, 2023, 12:55 AM

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@willow prairie tips on how to smooth the edges? do i just use photoshop and turn antialias on to smoothen it out?

willow prairie Jul 14, 2023, 12:55 AM

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thats

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you mean the edge between the sides?

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these?

mighty ocean Jul 14, 2023, 2:11 AM

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Looks like that’s just bad UV unwrapping. The sides being separate for some reason and different resolutions.

willow prairie Jul 14, 2023, 2:39 AM

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Thats what i was gonna say, that should be unwraped either in one piece or seamless

gleaming junco Jul 14, 2023, 5:41 AM

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these lines

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this is the UV map

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this is the height map and the basecolor

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without the copper wiring that i have as a placeholder

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this is what i was asking about. fixing how everything lines up isnt hard to fix

gleaming junco Jul 14, 2023, 7:23 AM

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novel star Jul 14, 2023, 11:24 AM

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Looks almost like you're designing a Millenium Falcon section now...

willow prairie Jul 14, 2023, 12:28 PM

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gleaming junco these lines

Ah well you can just blur the edges so they blend better

gleaming junco Jul 14, 2023, 11:25 PM

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willow prairie Ah well you can just blur the edges so they blend better

Thanks Lux. I'll get working on that soon.tm

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:43 AM

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@gleaming junco if you want your parts to be paintable on unity https://github.com/SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools/blob/main/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.shader

GitHub

KSP2UnityTools/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.s...

A collection of Unity editor scripts and the like to make developing Kerbal Space Program 2 mods easier. - SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools

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bear in mind that the current version of spacewarp does not support this

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if you want it to be supported (for now) change the 1st line to
Shader "Parts_Replace"

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:44 AM

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hm

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:44 AM

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it also works with color transparency

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and emission and all that fun stuff

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:44 AM

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I've got the shader you sent me a while ago

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Does it now not work properly?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:44 AM

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can you paint your parts inside unity with it?

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iirc no right?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:44 AM

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im not sure

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let me load up unity

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:45 AM

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im 99% no xD that was just a placeholder shader

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:45 AM

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pretty sure

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which also makes me sad

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but also happy

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:45 AM

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this one you can do all that tho

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its pretty much a copy of whats in the game

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:45 AM

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i have no idea how you wizard'd that into existence

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:46 AM

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oh, so on your material

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go into KSP2, then Parts and select Paintable

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:47 AM

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currently what i have that you gave me

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im guessing i need to install the new paintable parts

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:48 AM

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you need to just download what is on this link https://github.com/SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools/blob/main/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.shader

GitHub

KSP2UnityTools/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.s...

A collection of Unity editor scripts and the like to make developing Kerbal Space Program 2 mods easier. - SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools

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and paste it wherever you want inside the assets folder

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:48 AM

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paste the script into the assets folder

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like so?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:49 AM

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exactly

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can you see it on the material now?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:50 AM

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going to reimport ksp2.exe cause it doesnt show up yet

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:50 AM

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oh no

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dont!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:50 AM

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k im ont

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not*

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:50 AM

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theres no need for it to work

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📎 Paintable.shader

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try this file instead... wierd its not showing

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:51 AM

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remember who you're helping... i break everything LUL

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:51 AM

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xD no i think its totally my fault

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:51 AM

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i dont see KSP2 as an option

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:52 AM

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husK

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:52 AM

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could the shader I had before cause issues?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:52 AM

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oh i see

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did u add the .cs?

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its suposed to be .shader

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:53 AM

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ah

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:53 AM

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thats on me xD shouldve been more specific

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:53 AM

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no worries

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learning sitll

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still*

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im back from holiday so this weekend im playing catchup

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:54 AM

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oh xD where did u go?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:54 AM

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which shader do i pick? or do i just save the .cs as a .shader?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:54 AM

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willow prairie oh xD where did u go?

daughter and i checked out nasa and space x it was awesome

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:55 AM

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Oh that seems awesome! glad u had fun

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:55 AM

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gleaming junco which shader do i pick? or do i just save the .cs as a .shader?

nono

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just rename the file

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to wtvyouwant.shader

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:55 AM

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oh so shader.shader instead of shader.cs?

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OHHH

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:55 AM

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yes!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:55 AM

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this makes sense

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no need to set a class or anything?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:56 AM

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xD

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replace everything isnde the file

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:56 AM

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k

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:56 AM

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with whats on the link
https://github.com/SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools/blob/main/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.shader

GitHub

KSP2UnityTools/Assets/KSP2UnityTools/Shaders/KSP2/Parts/Paintable.s...

A collection of Unity editor scripts and the like to make developing Kerbal Space Program 2 mods easier. - SpaceWarpDev/KSP2UnityTools

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btw on github you can download files by clicking here

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you dont need to copy their contents

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:57 AM

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thats convenient

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i was copy pasta

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there we go that looks way better

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works like a charm

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:58 AM

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great

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can you paint your parts?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:58 AM

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thank you lux!

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well see

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 4:58 AM

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inside unity

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no need to fire the game

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also, dont forget that alpha means no color!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 4:59 AM

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thats what im trying to figure out, how to paint in unity lol

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:00 AM

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if you scroll down a bit you'll see the colors!

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A = Base
B = Accent

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:00 AM

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yup

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i also realized

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i need a working paintmap on the part

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:01 AM

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xD

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ok so last thing

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that shader wont work on the current version of Spacewarp (but will on the others), and since you're probably still gonna work on your parts before the next version of spacewarp

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open the LuxShader.shader

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:02 AM

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true

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:02 AM

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#1112981422836301844 message

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:02 AM

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opening

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:02 AM

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and do this

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might have linked the wrong message xD

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no its right

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:04 AM

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so that link use that instead of the sahder info i ahve now

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:04 AM

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now it might complain about the old shader, if it does just delete the old one

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:04 AM

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gleaming junco so that link use that instead of the sahder info i ahve now

what? xD

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:05 AM

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works

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thats what im using as shader

📎 message.txt

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when i launch the game, will this load the color it's set to?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:05 AM

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ok, just replace the 1st line with
Shader "Parts_Replace"

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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gleaming junco when i launch the game, will this load the color it's set to?

nop, the game prevents that

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the game autosets what colors you already have selected there

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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Parts_Replace "KSP2/Parts/Paintable"

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like so?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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replace the whole line!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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willow prairie nop, the game prevents that

still this saves SO much time

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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so it will be
Shader "Parts_Replace"

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:06 AM

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done

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woah it got angry

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:07 AM

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gleaming junco still this saves SO much time

yeah! no need to open th game to check small changes

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because you have the old one still!!

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delete it

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:07 AM

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ah

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if i can find it lol

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:07 AM

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its maybe under Assets/KSP2UnityTools/

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:08 AM

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found it

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i put it in a folder called LuxShader

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:08 AM

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:D

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this will be packed with KSP2 Unity Tools

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but for the time being ur safe

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tho remember that if you update KSP2 Unity Tools it might complain again

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and then just delete that one, the one on KSP2 UT will be the updated one

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:09 AM

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thats what i need to find

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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usually it says where it is on the errors

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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oh thats a diffrent error then

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:10 AM

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ah

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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thats on the shader i sent u

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?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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yup and when i compile and show code it pulls up what you sent me

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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can you send me it?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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📎 message.txt

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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oh ok

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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this is it. all i did was change line 1

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:11 AM

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you need quitations on Parts_Replace

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so
Shader "Parts_Replace"

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my bad again AsukaDead

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:12 AM

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good to know. also what language is the shader wrote in?

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it works like a charm

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omg so much time is going to be saved with paintmaps

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thank you luxs

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lux*

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:12 AM

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shader lab

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:12 AM

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lul

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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its unity's own shader language

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-am-not-worthy-not-worthy-respect-bow-gif-14777001

Tenor

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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but its very close to hlsl

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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interesting

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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which is the language that most people write shaders in

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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glad you know all about unity

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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waterfall is written in hlsl

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xD its years of experience

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 AM

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i had no idea that there were languages for writing shader stuff

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i know of C#, js, py, C++, and C

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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i mean you have to talk with the GPU

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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doesnt mean i know them, i just know of them

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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shader languages are basically GPU focused languages

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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i dont mind talking to my 4090

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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you can use c# i think ,but its so slow

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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all good

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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shader languages are what allows gpus to be so efficient and fast

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:14 AM

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this speeds up having to load a model in and test it

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literally only reason id load the game is to test the shaders

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:15 AM

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xD

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well no more need for that

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 5:15 AM

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nope!

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thanks! saves so much time now

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 5:15 AM

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np!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 7:42 AM

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also that blur effect makes it look way better.

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 8:33 AM

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#

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 6:30 PM

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@gleaming junco https://www.notion.so/luxstice/Module_Drag-7f4c074d81ad4a80a04989b6ba281a9d

Pedro's Notion on Notion

Module_Drag

As of now, i’m developing a tool for you to able to generate the dragCube and store it here. For the time being, you can use the game’s automatic drag cube generator by putting on the game objects that have mesh renderers that you want the drag cube to be calculated the layer Render.DragRender (layer #29).
For this to work your Data Drag>Cubes h...

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for you to generate your dragcubes

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but tbh i dont expect people to fly that monster w/o a fairing

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:34 PM

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sweet ill add that

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thats kind of why im trying to make it big and also its going to be heavy af. itll take a hefty rocket to get it into orbit if you're going to take it off kerbin

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by the time you unlock everything youll have to unlock better engines is the plan

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OMG you have a part bible

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:41 PM

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you can also just oyu know

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biuld it in situ

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with the LUXS COLONY PARTS MOD MADE BY LUX SaySoon

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the name wont be that, im most probably not gonna put my name on it

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:44 PM

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i want to attempt to make sure that the science mods I make function with mods you make

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so as I get into the programming side of it, itll be interesting to see how I can make sure it works with mods you have

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:45 PM

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oh dont worry, the colony stuff is stock from KSP2

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:45 PM

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cause what i hate is having a mod that doesnt work with other mods

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lol

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:45 PM

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dont worry, as long as u use the stock modules and stuff like that

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everything will work seamlessly

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:46 PM

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so do i add my mesh to the cube list?>

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putting on the game objects that have mesh renderers that you want the drag cube to be calculated the layer Render.DragRender (layer #29).

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oh is it this thing?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:48 PM

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nono!

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you dont need Drag Cube Generator

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:48 PM

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hm

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:48 PM

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u know what, a sec, i'll make ti easier

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:49 PM

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no worries

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theres a lot more I need to learn with unity

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:50 PM

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yeah, this is meant to be easy to follow for people who dont use unity too

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thus some of the pages having gifs guding you

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:50 PM

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gleaming junco theres a lot more I need to learn with unity

refresh the page

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:53 PM

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got distracted

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:54 PM

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sir

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:54 PM

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I need to make the detector have a resource and function like an engine

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:54 PM

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your part is not an engne xD

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well, then follow my video tutorial because theres more than just that

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#🔴tools-and-resources message

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:54 PM

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cause ive been thinking about the functionality of it

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it needs to consume a resource (fuel), generate heat, consume electricity, and then from that convert it to anti-matter

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so i figured before science mode comes, engine_module may be a way to experiment with it as Ill need some of what module_engine uses

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otherwise it will take a custom module to work

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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oh thats a ISRU

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i think you can already add all that in game

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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whats an ISRU?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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even the antimatter

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InSituResourceUsomething

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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i have all of that in game now which is awesome. i saw the antimatter as a resource option

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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basically a resource converter

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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and thats a module in the game already?

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thats awesome

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:56 PM

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yes, Module_Converter i think

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you can try it out, its already functional

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:57 PM

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also data transmission is awesome, cause i want to make sure it transmits science/info

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module_resource covnerter

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ah

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:58 PM

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ok

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dont worry

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its not hard to understand that

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at least not when you've been doing this for 3 month already AsukaDead

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:58 PM

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nope

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 10:58 PM

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add a formula definition

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basically all you need to add

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 10:59 PM

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i pick up things pretty quick. my issue is just finding where things are, understanding how it works is fairly simple i think

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whats difference between formula and emissive material?

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now ive gotta make sure i name thse fuels correctly.

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:00 PM

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gleaming junco whats difference between formula and emissive material?

huh

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they have nothing in common

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they are totally separate things xD

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Emissive material is what makes ie engines glow

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:01 PM

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when i see emissive i think of emit maps

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AH

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thats cool

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:01 PM

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yup!, you can use it by putting your material name there

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should work from the go

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:01 PM

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so the name of ther material would be whatever material you have

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so just whatever material youve made, that name, goes there

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:02 PM

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exactly

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Tho

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for that you need your emissive material set

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:02 PM

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this makes sense

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if it doesnt ahve it, then it wont use the map and then it doesnt work

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 PM

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huh either that or your whole part will glow

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 PM

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which means i need to make an emission map real quick

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 PM

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well you can test that with my shader :3

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 PM

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i can?

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thats EPIC

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 PM

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just change the Emission Color

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btw emission most of the times is a color, dont put it white xD

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:04 PM

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white is the presence of all color

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false

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yes

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when it comes to RGB

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:04 PM

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depends

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:04 PM

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but with light white is the presence of all color

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:05 PM

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additive no, subtractive yes

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:05 PM

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husK the amount of things that go into textures is astounding

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:05 PM

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yup xD

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:06 PM

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RGB is additive. MYC is substractive?

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:08 PM

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other way around iirc

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imagine like this

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if you have paints of diffrente colors and you start adding them together and mixing them

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they'll end up being browish/black

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cuz ur adding more pigment to the color

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:09 PM

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ah this makes sense

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k now how would i test the emission?

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OH

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thats so cool

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:24 PM

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huh

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:24 PM

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haha dope

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:24 PM

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yeah thats pretty much what u use emission for

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did u set it on the resource converter?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:24 PM

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think I did it correctly

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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actually it might not work since it only works when you have temperature

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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put material name in it, and when i change the color of the emission changes

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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yeah but thres no temperature in the game yet so yeah

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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yup

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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it is set up correctly tho

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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so it wont work in game

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BUT when they add heat

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it "should" work

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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exactly

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it most deff will

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM

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heck yeah

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thats fucking rad

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easy way to create effects

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:26 PM

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yup! tho take into consideration that those are temperature depedent

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:26 PM

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yup which is fine

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:26 PM

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so it will only glow that bright whenever its at its hottest

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:26 PM

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nice

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a lot to tweak with

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thatll be fun to mess with and for now getting a basic idea down will help

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the thing is the inner detector is 1.9K (-271.3C)

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:27 PM

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yup! i can make a way for you to test it in unity later, should be easy

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:27 PM

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so its ridiculously cold. it doesn't get hot BUT to make it look cool in game im adding heat

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but im curious if theres something that uses cold

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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you can use it

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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if heating also has some cooling aspect to it

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like could i go negative with the temperature

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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oh wait maybe not yeah

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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i have no idea

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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well its up to modders to add that

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:28 PM

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so for now i was like "eh well stray away from cooling right now"

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that was something i wanted to add later was cold

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but first gen of KERN is going to use the heat system

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then later ill change it to work with a cooling mod

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:29 PM

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shouldnt be hard so dont worry

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mosty you'll just have to change 1 line

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:29 PM

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which should just be a custom module that plays off the heating

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not too shabby

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i havent finished the textures for this yet buut getting close to being done with the detector

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then ive gotta add more models ive worked on

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:30 PM

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which reminds me that i have to rework the models and textures of sorry

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thx!

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:30 PM

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haha

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no worries

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textures are always so niche

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and the little details i feel like we're the only ones who know about it

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most people dont look into the details of models but i really want every detail to look good in what i make

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well time to watch some football and then after matches back to working on KERN

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:32 PM

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well the game is way better looking than before

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so now more than ever you have to have attention to details

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:32 PM

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you're a life saver! thanks for the shaders and making the bible

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:32 PM

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np MisatoPray

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gotta share my knowledge

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:32 PM

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oh!

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how ive been making my heightmaps is just tracing them

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is that a good technique?

white shale Jul 15, 2023, 11:33 PM

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Idk even know how to make height maps

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:33 PM

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gleaming junco how ive been making my heightmaps is just tracing them

heh

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you should use heightmaps for bolts, metal edges and things like that

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:34 PM

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willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:34 PM

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what r u using it for?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:34 PM

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im trying to map this out neatly so that it looks good. its got a few pipes/wires

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:34 PM

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its hard to know where u used it xD

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oh the pipes?

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:34 PM

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it looks okay but a bit jagged

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:35 PM

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i see

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yeah thats a good use

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:35 PM

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i added the blur and it helped smooth it oout a bit

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:35 PM

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smoothness is very dependent on your brush as well

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:35 PM

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im also going to change the color of the metal as it's too blue imo

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interesting

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this is the 5th version of the detector

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3rd of this generation

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i looked at the atlas detector on CERNs website and it had 16 edges instead of 12. i thought it had 12. so i had to rebuild it last night to have 16 lol

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a few things to iron out and i think itll look pretty good

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:38 PM

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heh dont forget that you dont need a 1:1 recreation

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:38 PM

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yup

willow prairie Jul 15, 2023, 11:38 PM

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take creative liberty into your hands

gleaming junco Jul 15, 2023, 11:39 PM

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thats where the components and how they look will change

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but the muon spectrometer has helped me learn how to make heighmaps, and they look cool

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still havent figured out a texture to add behind them to make it look more like a bunch of wires or something

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and you were 100% right about how textures make things easy

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instead of subdiving these into a bunch of polys i just make a simple texture to get the same effect

gleaming junco Jul 24, 2023, 1:35 PM

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Devblog3 in the works. releasing it sometime this week, definitely by friday

bitter comet Jul 25, 2023, 1:30 AM

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this is mostly great because kern is my last name lol

gleaming junco Jul 25, 2023, 1:36 AM

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Nice

gleaming junco Jul 26, 2023, 10:30 PM

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I feel like checking the stages current dV would work than trying to check the FuelTanks fuel level.

dV is what is using the fuel and its only one value.

the fuel is split into multiple values

@willow prairie

willow prairie Jul 26, 2023, 11:06 PM

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gleaming junco I feel like checking the stages current dV would work than trying to check the F...

then you'll get the wohle stage fuel

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its wierd that's getting you 0

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i'll try the scripts on my side in a bit

gleaming junco Jul 26, 2023, 11:06 PM

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no worries i cahnged it a bit

white shale Oct 11, 2023, 1:55 AM

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sdawdasdawd

#KERN - Kerbin Council for Nuclear Research (Particle Accelerator)