Lux's Devlog

[tiny blaze]

its all pretty much there

@sly tangle what u think?

[verbal olive]

go sleep ffs

[verbal olive]

imagine not living in europe

[acoustic lava]

Imagine not measuring everything in Barret M82s

[verbal olive]

imagine not using the metric system

[acoustic lava]

ew

the metric system?

really

[verbal olive]

it's better than the drunken imperial one

[acoustic lava]

no

https://tenor.com/view/freedoms-internally-freedom-freedoms-eagle-america-gif-23711012

[ripe crow]

The imperial system is what the brits use

The USA uses the customary system

If your gonna criticize a shitty system criticize it right

[sly tangle]

That's downright sexy!

[tiny blaze]

[ripe crow]

Add ecorocket??

[tiny blaze]

its already in game wym?

(whats that mosntrosity)

[ripe crow]

Arca space/ami exploration asteroid mining rocket powered by good ol h2o

Not liquid h2 and liquid o2

But liquid h2o

Water

Its a kettle rocket

[lofty jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4edxgmumxo excuse me wtf did I just watch

[uncut yarrow]

An absolute abomination

[acoustic lava]

wtf

[lofty jacinth]

oh god, so it's basically a cryptoscam

[acoustic lava]

omg bro

[uncut yarrow]

yeah. Arca is nothing more than a huge meme within the spaceflight community lol

[ripe crow]

I hope they win

Just to spite all the haters

Does anyone know a crypto billionaire i can convince to invest in arca

[acoustic lava]

They really took MOAR BOOSTERS to another level

[verbal olive]

It needs moar boosters tbh

[old pelican]

one of their main selling points is that they only create steam as a byproduct (which also happens to be the case with hydrolox anyway)

additionally, water vapor is just as damaging as greenhouse gasses at high altitudes, so their extremely inefficient mechanism*** serves zero purpose*** at all

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-gif-24660602

[ripe crow]

It serves one purpose

And that is to make us laugh

[acoustic lava]

yes

ver much

[ripe crow]

Is this

[ocean trellis]

Anyone got a guide on how to add in animations?

[rotund gyro]

actually i live very high up in altitude so i get free water every launch trust

[ripe crow]

Is this still being worked on

[tiny blaze]

obviously

i'm making the plumes for the vtols but im not very pleased w them

#🔴mod-dev message

i suffer from a condition

where i can't seem to release something that looks horrible or that works badly

[ripe crow]

Ah cool

I think airbags would be a cool addition to sorry

They were used in a lot of reusable concepts

[tiny blaze]

airbags?

as in those for landing?

[ripe crow]

Yes

[fair wraith]

Lux are you still working on that one vab mod?

LUXs OAB Extensions

Just wonderinf if you ever got custom tabs to work

[tiny blaze]

Well on and off but yes

I stopped modding for like 3 weeks for academic reasons and only got back a week ago

[tiny blaze]

plumes fixed, now gotta make the last plume

[tiny blaze]

also gonna release a unity package for anyone who wants to make their own plumes

(that is if the shader works for everyone, which it might not since it was made in shadergraph)

[ripe crow]

A 5 meter engine would be cool...

[tiny blaze]

methalox?

[ripe crow]

Ofcourse

Ablatively cooled tho (needs orange plume)

[tiny blaze]

idk if it fits SORRY's theme but i'll try to make it work

[ripe crow]

Sea dragon was semi reusable....

[tiny blaze]

@lofty jacinth sealevel plume for Merlin Vac?

ill record it a sec

[lofty jacinth]

that's looking pretty nice!

[tiny blaze]

i'll also post this on the IG server to give some hope for the plebs (\j obviously)

but what yall think? (cc: @lofty jacinth)

1st one being atmo climbing 2nd being throtthling down

[lofty jacinth]

I was trying to find some good reference from like an MVac static fire but you don't really get to see the plumes much in the camera shots of them

smh

[tiny blaze]

yeah xD, i figured so

it might be too colored tho

[lofty jacinth]

I think the color is alright, but I honestly don't know well enough to be able to tell

[tiny blaze]

well its an easy change tbh, what about the shapes and transition?

its a bit different from the RaptorVac's plume cuz im trying with a new (and hopefully improved) shape

[fair wraith]

Lux does your fx overlay the fog? In the renderlayers

[tiny blaze]

how so?

the fog you mean clouds and such?

[fair wraith]

If you zoom out in ksp2 does the fx look like over the fog? Ill send a example hold on

[tiny blaze]

pls do! havent tested that yet tho i think

[fair wraith]

I have to change its render layer which is a current bug in my mod

see how the mountains in the background are beneath the fog

[tiny blaze]

oh yeah i see

well, i dont have FX that size so i dont think its ever a problem

you should look into the tags

[fair wraith]

Alright. Ill tell you if I find a solution. I will probably just put it in findings

[fair wraith]

tags dont have much to do with the render layers

[tiny blaze]

they do

[fair wraith]

?

[tiny blaze]

cameras can act diffrently depending on tags

[fair wraith]

Is that why my custom camera wasnt rendering planets in orbit

[tiny blaze]

ie the camera that renders the fog can look for certain gameobjects with tags

could be

doubt tho cuz planets dont really have special tags tho

but you can look into that

actually, to have a definite answer look into the mapview's camera

compare to yours

[fair wraith]

Ill add this conversation to the bug fix in trello for when I do fix this bug

[ripe crow]

Bruh wtf did u do to the ksc

[fair wraith]

I dont want to talk about what I have done to the ksc during development of this mod

[tiny blaze]

plume rework ig

[tiny blaze]

@lofty jacinth how we feeling about BE?

might be the wrong gif

it is

...

there ^

[lofty jacinth]

wait BE-7 or BE-4?

BE-7 is the lunar lander engine

[tiny blaze]

BE-4

the sealevel lifter

[lofty jacinth]

oh yeah, I pulled up a BE-4 video to compare and this looks awesome

[tiny blaze]

<3 thx, gonna make the transitions now, then up to Raptor and Merlin and im good for the update :D

[lofty jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-jenner-youre-doing-amazing-great-gif-8764163

[tiny blaze]

BUH.4

LETS FUCKING GOOO PLUMES

only 2 more to go

all of them in their glory

[ripe crow]

Mk2 vtol looks awesome

Are your plumes convex or concave

[tiny blaze]

i always get those mixed

the egg shape

which means concave i think

[lofty jacinth]

concave yeah

well actually

but also

I always get them mixed up as well tbh

[tiny blaze]

ok so now that SORRY's update is pretty much done, next thing will be LOABE's categories and then
FINALLY
colony mod

[uncut yarrow]

say what now

[tiny blaze]

yeah i been working on and off on it for a while, im gonna go "full time" on it now

[uncut yarrow]

Any details on what will be in it you want to share? :p

[tiny blaze]

theres still nothing playable xD but it'll have colony-colony resource transfer, kerbal life support and (maybe) kerbal reproduction

also there'll be orbital colonies :3

[uncut yarrow]

That sounds amazing!! Cant wait to see that🤩

[tiny blaze]

LFO's page looking better now

[acoustic lava]

THE ENGINES ARE OFF CENTET

NOOO

but looks great good job!

[tiny blaze]

they are just noticed 😭

[tiny blaze]

should i remove the "start" sound? @lofty jacinth

its the sound from the start of this https://youtu.be/QMcj58TbsyU

[tiny blaze]

munix is ignoring me

[lofty jacinth]

just got out of the pool lmao

[lofty jacinth]

idk I like it

is there an option for a shutdown sound?

I'd LOVE to hear the Raptor honk when the engine is shut down lmao

[tiny blaze]

if i can find a honk sound

ill look for it

there's even gimbal on and off sound

and out of fuel sound

[acoustic lava]

In my opinion you should make it longer

[tiny blaze]

you gotta remembe rthat if a player activates the engine for only 1 second, that sound will still play

so if i make that sound longer, it will keep playing until it finishes

[acoustic lava]

Yeah maybe just a micro second but I do like the plumes

[lofty jacinth]

oh damn, compared to Raptor 1 startup, it's so much faster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2dEpe8WS1A

[acoustic lava]

Idk this is my opinion

[tiny blaze]

and i appreciate it! :D

[acoustic lava]

:()

[lofty jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbmGzHcHg2M

[tiny blaze]

it sounds like a fart 😭

[lofty jacinth]

lmao

it's so iconic

[tiny blaze]

now that i think about it

we would hear 33 honks

at the same time

i hope that the sound doesnt stack up

[lofty jacinth]

lmao

well not exactly, I imagine they'll shut down the 20 outer circle engines, then the 10 middle circle, and after Starship hotstages, the remaining 3 will shut down

actually I'm wondering if they'll even shut down the 3 engines or just keep them running to flip for the boostback immediately instead of using RCS

it would make more sense to keep them running instead of shutting them down and then restarting them a few seconds later

[tiny blaze]

@lofty jacinth

something like this?

the honk unfortunately is not as "defined" as the other sounds

but i did some mixing to get it closer

[lofty jacinth]

oh yeah that sounds great!

[acoustic lava]

GAWT DAM

[tiny blaze]

HONK

[acoustic lava]

HONK HONK

[gritty spruce]

that's perfect!

[acoustic lava]

How do you make those sounds

[tiny blaze]

i just simulated the engine test

cut them and mixed them so they loop

made 2 (i have to make more) so that it doesnt get repetitive

also added a couple other effects etc etc

[acoustic lava]

What software

[tiny blaze]

storing this here for a future chroma plugin #1039965578754007060 message

[tiny blaze]

akwise

it has a 30 days free

[acoustic lava]

Alr

[tiny blaze]

im pretty much missing the point of SORRY not being a remake of IRL engines with the sounds and the plumes being like this

but tbh im having a lot of fun making these engines

and learning a lot

[acoustic lava]

Yeah but I think that’s some of the fun. And also basing it off some real life engines can give you a base thrust to go off of. But I do love the engines

[tiny blaze]

the update is pretty much done

just, for some reason, when an engine is destroyed, the sound keeps playing

even if you go to VAB or other scene

[tiny blaze]

fixed

packing new version of sorry :D

[fair wraith]

Was gonna tell you the solution but you got it lol

I had to face that problem also

[tiny blaze]

i added it to OnDestroy but somehow

the game thinks that when a part collides and IS DESTROYED it shouldnt trigger the OnDestroy

[gritty spruce]

ETD?

[tiny blaze]

not long just field testing the update on normal game

instead of the dev game

prob like 30min to 1h

[gritty spruce]

yey

[tiny blaze]

bro istg i have the wierdest bugs

[Error  :Spaceplane and Orbital Recovery and Reusability companY] System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'LuxsFlamesAndOrnaments.LFO' threw an exception. ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at LuxsFlamesAndOrnaments.LFO..cctor () [0x00000] in C:\Users\costa\Desktop\LuxsFlamesAndOrnaments\LuxsFlamesAndOrnamentsProject\LFO.cs:24 

fixed already but like????????

this doesnt get logged anywhere

its so wierd

[tiny blaze]

my stupidity sometimes amazes me

[acoustic lava]

Y’all are out here making the best mods for ksp 2 and getting everything to work while I’m just over here wondering why code and no oab button no worky

[tiny blaze]

no oab button probably you just need to update spacewarp on your game

[acoustic lava]

I did 🥲

[tiny blaze]

Great Success

i'll pack the new version and send it off to yall :3

[lofty jacinth]

nice!

[tiny blaze]

oh great just uploaded all the files and realized that i forgot to add localization to the MK2 Rcs Block

[tiny blaze]

and repos updated

[tiny blaze]

welp time to look into colonies

interesting

its doable

i'll try to abstract the shit out of it so that i dont get fucked once they add more colony parts

[ripe crow]

How will you add colony parts without, yknow

The whole entire colony system

[tiny blaze]

There is a colony system in the game

[ripe crow]

I thought it was coming out with the update

[tiny blaze]

Oh young padawan

@lofty jacinth i made a starwars reference

:Ddddd

[lofty jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[tiny blaze]

The devs just dont bother to remove the code that isnt in parts yet or not implemented, as long as it doesnt fuck up the game they have no reason to remove it 🤷‍♂️

Also i think they use unity to build the game, and unity has no way to make that distinction

Im jot sure tho cuz u ity projects dont usually look like what the game’s folder is

[ripe crow]

Interesting

Is it like

Fully functional?

[tiny blaze]

har to say

[ripe crow]

Have you tested it out

[tiny blaze]

The basis of colonies is, cresting the colony, adding parts to it etc

And also the “build a vessel in the colony” aspect too

Other than that havent tested much

Mostly because theres stuff missing

As in assets, they can cut those things out easly because they are addressables

But cutting code off the release is way harder

[keen prawn]

Especially if you have a non trivial amount of coupling

[tiny blaze]

^^

But yeah the assets its the easy to add

[tiny blaze]

i was gonna start designing the Space Station parts today

but got distracted with a detailed guide on how to make parts for KSP2

https://luxstice.notion.site/KSP2-Part-tutorial-almost-from-scratch-1f336b7c97ae4280afb6a4e3aa6080b2

enjoy

[acoustic lava]

Thanks man I have been gaining the motivation to make a parts mod for the game

[gritty spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-yes-yes-yup-agree-i-like-it-gif-15387382

[acoustic lava]

Yes brother

[tiny blaze]

feel free to show me some spacestations for me to guide myself

[acoustic lava]

This looks futuristic. It might be worthy for ksp 2

[tiny blaze]

cant see

[acoustic lava]

Working on it

[lofty jacinth]

ah yes Orbital Reef

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/dxgw8oL7i5VytGmbkUzB6M.jpg

[tiny blaze]

i like it

tho, i think that for ksp it shall ahve a bit more details

tho i love the idea

and works great for KSP's modularity

idk, do you prefer something simplistic like that or smth more detailed?

[acoustic lava]

Maybe a new capola esc module like the one on this

[lofty jacinth]

Axiom, Northrop Grumman, and Lockheed Martin private space station proposals

[tiny blaze]

also

• inflatable storage
• 3.75m- 1.25m parts
• domes
• agriculture spots
• rings

[lofty jacinth]

some other realistic commercial stations as a reference

[tiny blaze]

NGs seems the most kerbalesque imo

maybe actually Axiom

[lofty jacinth]

yeah I gotta say I love the look of the Axiom one lmao

[tiny blaze]

i might base mine in axiom

[lofty jacinth]

very SpaceX-esque

[tiny blaze]

tho, obivously it will be paintable

gotta also think about a Spaceyard set of parts, tho i already have a plan for that

OHhhhhh get your reusable rockets ready, this will be legendary

[acoustic lava]

I still need help making reusable rockets. And docking so I need to learn that before your update comes out, I think i still have a while

[lofty jacinth]

if only a certain someone stopped being a lazy fart and went back to work on https://discord.com/channels/1078696971088433153/1083052239435862105

👀

[tiny blaze]

oh dw it will take a while

xD, i have so much on my plate that i cant even offer to help you on that lmao

[lofty jacinth]

lmao it's ok

[tiny blaze]

practice and more practice ngl, play the game and have fun, you'll understand what you need to make ur rockets reusable in no time

tho, i hope that flight plan (or any other mod) gets to the point that they can auto land boosters

[lofty jacinth]

my list somehow only keeps getting longer as I work on stuff, weird

[tiny blaze]

then its just a matter of adding a new player to each booster so they dont despawn, and let the code take control

mechjeb was able to do that on KSP1, but they'd despawn from physics range

[lofty jacinth]

I know that some people did fully automated KOS Falcon Heavy style launches where both boosters landed in sync on the the landing zones next to each other

probably using Physics Range Extender though

[tiny blaze]

yeah i saw that too, and yeah i think so

i had a similar script, it was very good

not created by me tho, it was sme else who wrote it

had this dumb design of a Shuttle-esque 2nd stage on top of 3 boosters

2 would detach at around 25km, and the 3rd would ferry the load to orbit, and deorbit itself to KSC

god i miss doing that... I need to make that possible asap in KSP2

[lofty jacinth]

oh yeah that sounds cool

[acoustic lava]

Tbh I took a break from ksp 2 cause all the modding and getting angry at my monitor really soured the game for me. But I think I’m starting to enjoy it again

[tiny blaze]

if youre stressing w modding then its not worth

modding is suposed to be fun

[acoustic lava]

Yeah I do enjoy making progress but I just can’t get most things to work and I just took a break from it

Also not to mention that I’m not that good at coding in anything

[tiny blaze]

coding is a matter of learning

you only need to be good at it if you wanna excel

most software engineers are horrible at coding

[acoustic lava]

Wow

Idk why I’m learning many things at once like html or css

Or python

[tiny blaze]

focus in only 1

once you learn one the others are easy

[acoustic lava]

Yeah

[gritty spruce]

I was watching a movie

[tiny blaze]

no problem! what movie?

#1085910413239140416 message

we have these 3 nomiations and orbital reef

Orbital Reef
Axiom
Northrop Grumman
Lockheed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085910413239140416/1130249176786145280/IMG_6448.webp
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085910413239140416/1130249995103260692/Axiom_modules_connected_to_ISS.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085910413239140416/1130249995388457081/Commercial-Space-Station-Hero.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085910413239140416/1130249995749175386/QGgqeXaYewdkzK5y7ncYwT.png

[gritty spruce]

Elemental

[tiny blaze]

Axiom seems to be leading but feel free to recommend more

[tiny blaze]

oh heard its an amazing movie

[gritty spruce]

just give me some minutes

[tiny blaze]

np

[gritty spruce]

really nice movie, my mom ended up crying lol

[gritty spruce]

Vast "Haven 1", Tiangong (both small and big configurations)

[acoustic lava]

How about all space stations ever

[keen prawn]

Yeah cuz that doesnt take time to do :3

[tiny blaze]

i like vast for a 1.25m-1.875m set

like a moon focused space station set

Axiom for a 3.75-5m one

[uncut yarrow]

might be worth it to mention that Lockheed/Voyager's Starlab design has been updated since their original proposal, it now uses Airbus' 8m diameter habitation module instead of an inflatable one

[tiny blaze]

i like the design

i just feel that its too simplistic for KSP2

tho thats a lot of space

[uncut yarrow]

fair point tbh

[tiny blaze]

also 8m diameter prob is very hard to get to space

[uncut yarrow]

you could probably make something like this with a fairing

[tiny blaze]

im ok with a simplistic design for the smaller space stations

[uncut yarrow]

irl or in the game?

[tiny blaze]

but 2.5+ deff cant be just a plain cylinder

[tiny blaze]

irl xD

[tiny blaze]

deffinetly

[uncut yarrow]

it just so happens that starship is 9m in diameter. such coincidence! :p

[lofty jacinth]

yeah, but the payload door probably won't fit 8 m wide payloads

[tiny blaze]

starship its a beast of its own xD

im sure that they design a new payload door just for a spacestation ferry vehicle

tho yeah i'd be better for it to be the ifnlatable one

which makes me wonder if starship will ever get a wider version

like a StarshipX

with a bigger payload bay

[lofty jacinth]

for stuff like space stations it'd probably be easier to launch an expendable ship with a regular (or even larger than 9m) separating fairing

[uncut yarrow]

according to their users guide, it actually can (but its from 2020 so may be a bit outdated at this point)

[lofty jacinth]

yeah I can't really see them being able to build a payload door like that

at least not anytime soon

[uncut yarrow]

they kinda have to, or half of their cargo bay volume will be worthless

will be interesting to see what they'll come up with

[lofty jacinth]

I'd say this is much more likely

[tiny blaze]

well i mean

those are test vehicles

[uncut yarrow]

in the short term, definitely

[tiny blaze]

im guessing they'll make the whole hinge mechanism only after they get a sucessfull launch

since they have to test it in vacuum

[uncut yarrow]

but iirc those stations arent slated to fly until atleast 2027 or something, so they have some time to figure it out

[tiny blaze]

bro ill ber 50 by then

they gotta hrry

[lofty jacinth]

the biggest issue is that that hinge will have to bear the loads of both ascent and reentry

[tiny blaze]

or i might not even see the first man to go to the mun

[uncut yarrow]

this starship talk has reminded me i still need to revisit my replica in KSP2 and check out those sweet new SORRY engine sounds 😉

[lofty jacinth]

though I imagine there'd be some additional supporting locking mechanisms on the sides and at the top of the door, but still

[tiny blaze]

im guessing a locking mechanist along the whole payload door rim

isnt terran payload door similar?

why does this chat always turns into a discussion about rockets xD

[lofty jacinth]

well, not anymore

[tiny blaze]

literally, from the birth of this channel, it always deviates to dicussing rocket's designs and mechanism

[lofty jacinth]

since it's now just a F9 clone basically

lmao

[uncut yarrow]

the old one is, the new one just uses fairings i believe

they ruined it😢

[tiny blaze]

i wonder if they found problems with the payload door

or just cut RnD costs

[uncut yarrow]

i doubt it, they're not using a reusable second stage anymore so a payload bay like that would be worthless

[lofty jacinth]

the image on the right seems also like a plausible type of a payload door, especially for Mars and Moon lander Starships

[tiny blaze]

fair

[tiny blaze]

tho again, that inutilizes most of the volume of the payload bay

you could only use it for small crafts

it would basically be a cargo spacecraft

as in, boxes of materials and supplies

[lofty jacinth]

this is definitely one of the biggest question marks hanging over Starship

[uncut yarrow]

hm, for the lander version not so much since the payload would probably consist of multiple smaller ones instead of a single monolithic one. you could stack them up then unload them one by one

[lofty jacinth]

it's nice that its payload capacity is nearing 300 tons

[tiny blaze]

i mean obviously

[lofty jacinth]

but how in the hell are you going to get all that mass in and out of it

[tiny blaze]

but isnt starship suposed to also ferry spacestations to orbit?

[uncut yarrow]

its basically meant to do everything lol

[tiny blaze]

lmao

well to be fair

starship is very cusomizeable

its not like you have equipment up there

its pretty much an empty can

[uncut yarrow]

lifts and trolley carts?

[lofty jacinth]

I don't know of any specific plans to use Starship to get stations into orbit

[tiny blaze]

so you have as much space as you want to put locking mechanisms and fail safes for a bigger door

[lofty jacinth]

but I do know that there are some plans to make space stations out of Starships

since their payload bay volume is as large as the whole ISS

[tiny blaze]

lmao

40 years and we are launching ISSs daily

well not yet but soon

[uncut yarrow]

the more you think about starship, the more ridiculous it gets lol

[tiny blaze]

ikr

but it seems like its gonna work

[gritty spruce]

NASA wanted to use the Falcon Heavy for launching the Gateway LOP

[tiny blaze]

tho im sure that the first 10 deorbits wont work

[lofty jacinth]

afaik that's still the plan for the modules that don't need Orion as a tug

[tiny blaze]

im betting ona 10+launch before they land it

and that i will reach orbit and the booster recovered by the 4th launch

[lofty jacinth]

recovered as in safe splashdown, or caught by tower arms?

[gritty spruce]

ah yeah you're right

[lofty jacinth]

because that's a big difference 😆

[tiny blaze]

now that you say that...

8th launch for caught by chopsticks

10th launch for completly reusable stack back in land and ready to use

[lofty jacinth]

hi B15 👀

[tiny blaze]

LMAO

B15 and SN55

thats my bet

[lofty jacinth]

damn, 30 more ships?

[tiny blaze]

or maybe musk makes a le funny and SN69

well not all ships fly

at least not all stacked

[lofty jacinth]

true, the next one after S25 will most likely be S28

[uncut yarrow]

but Lux

dont you know

Starships were meant to fly?

[tiny blaze]

i mean yeah but...

Fly in one piece

[lofty jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-nikki-niki-starship-gif-21387246

[tiny blaze]

and stacked on top of Booster

OH WHAT THE FUCK ITS A MEME

im gonna...

[lofty jacinth]

no, it's a Nicki Minaj song lmao

[uncut yarrow]

ITS A SONG lmaoo

[tiny blaze]

im sorry Queen

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-queen-gif-8365830

[uncut yarrow]

i still remember when they blasted that through the PA when they stacked a ship on a booster for the first time

[tiny blaze]

forgive me thy i sinned

[lofty jacinth]

oh lmao

that's great

[tiny blaze]

either way gonna catch some Zs as tomorow is beach day

i hate the beach but my friends invited me and i havent gone out w them in 2 months lmao

[lofty jacinth]

smh

I'd love to go to the beach (or have friends)

[tiny blaze]

im low on money, gotta save to go see my gf who lives 200km from me

[uncut yarrow]

man i love the look of the Reiptors, great job on those Lux!

and have fun tomorrow :))

[tiny blaze]

<3 does the sound and plumes work well?

[lofty jacinth]

wait what, is that engine mount new?

[uncut yarrow]

i'll let you know in a bit!

[uncut yarrow]

no, its custom made using fairings haha

[lofty jacinth]

oh damn lmao

that looks really good

[tiny blaze]

i could deffinetly do that with my PEC

now that i think about it...

tho gotta go! cyall
i'll probably be back to see peacock's screenshots tho xD

[lofty jacinth]

good night

[gritty spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/carl-wheezer-scooby-doo-shaggy-shaggy-scooby-doo-dance-gif-25589348

[uncut yarrow]

dont stay up for those, you can look at them tomorrow! night :))

[uncut yarrow]

okay, did some testing. the good:
-Reiptor Vacs fit beautifully now!
-The engines no longer emit light in the VAB
-Engine audio is great, apart from sounding a little high pitched at startup
-plumes look incredible!!

the bad:
-there seems to be something off about the brightness. the flare follows you even if you zoom out
-weird flashes of light sometimes appear on the top right probe icons and when on the map view
-the engine audio keeps playing when the game is paused
(also dont mind the horrendous framerate, my laptop gets a bit mad at me when i try to run 33 engines at once lol)

here's a vid of the flashes happening, i couldnt manage to capture them with a screenshot since they happen so quickly lol

audio fade and plume expansion work great! and here's another pic that shows the problems with the flare shader a bit better :/

and finally, the engine flares also seem to take a while to fade when viewed through other parts (sped this up a bit because again, SPF instead of FPS😅 )

those problems aside, great work on the update Lux!! i love those new RCS blocks

[tiny blaze]

heh, the flares wheren't even suposed to be there xD It seems like KSP automatically adds flare to most lights in the game... or maybe its unity, even tho they look pretty, they are also a bit buggy, i'll work on that tomorrow

the flashes might also be caused by that

as for the engine sound not stopping... gotta investigate that, tbf i dont even pause the game so didnt catch that xD

can't sleep 🙃

so checked them edarly

your starship looks amazing

[tiny blaze]

Ends up that they canceled 3 hours ago lmao

But since i rarely chek wpp only saw it now

[tiny blaze]

I love this for ksp ngl

That might be a better 1.25m-1.875m station

[tiny blaze]

Just so i dont loose it

[gritty spruce]

Falcon Heavy for the Gateway components, SLS for the crew (and some other components)

[tiny blaze]

I’ll also think about a crew and cargo set of parts for the upper stage of rockets

Something like what the dragon module is used for, but probably wont take inspiration from it

[gritty spruce]

like that

[tiny blaze]

Yup, just so, when u have the modules docked to the space station, it still fits the station’s style

Obviously u can still dock other crafts, but its a nice touch i think

[gritty spruce]

I would love (although it is a lot of work), to have inflatable modules that you can inflate once connected

[tiny blaze]

Oh its not that much work

And i plan to

Hab module and storage module for sure

Maybe also agriculture module

[uncut yarrow]

Lux you should be sleeping!

[uncut yarrow]

And thanks :))

[tiny blaze]

Oh dw it was canceled xD

[uncut yarrow]

Ah okay, but still haha

[tiny blaze]

I will go back to sleep in a bit tho, its 4am here

[gritty spruce]

bruh damn

[tiny blaze]

Any other recomendations for inflatable modules?

Lmao thats my usual sleep time

[gritty spruce]

roll-up solar panels, expansions in stages (stage 1 for 7 kerbals, stage 2 for 12 kerbals and so on)

[tiny blaze]

Sure, makes sense

[gritty spruce]

iirc the soviets wanted to do that with their colonies on the moon

by Airbus

[tiny blaze]

Something that would be cool, is to make the stages cost resources

To upgrade at least

But thats something for the future

[gritty spruce]

sounds cool, at least to have it enable in career mode (when available)

[tiny blaze]

Ill actually try to make the whole resource system work :D

Basically you’d have to mine x resource to be able to contruct parts in colonies

But yeah if i cant it will be in carrer for sure

And also ill make it toggleable on sandbox mode

[gritty spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-i-like-that-rhino-love-live-serve-good-idea-gif-19003960

[ripe crow]

Would inflatable fuel tanks be possible?

Like a fuel tank that can expand yo the size of the big h2 tank

[tiny blaze]

For normal vessels?

Or for space stations

The answer is yes for both tho

[ripe crow]

Why not both

Could useful for fuel depots

And large interplanetary and interstellar craft

[tiny blaze]

Oh true

Yeah ill probsbly do tsnks too

[ripe crow]

Awesome

[tiny blaze]

• fixed the lights
• flashes, might be fixed
• looking into the audio rn

[tiny blaze]

flashes fixed

[uncut yarrow]

Ooohhh

Nice!! :))

[tiny blaze]

sounds are a beast of their own ngl

i think it might not be possible since its all done inside wwise

but gonna try a few more things

[tiny blaze]

Sound fixed, hacky, but fixed

[acoustic lava]

Damn lux

[tiny blaze]

it was one of the first topics

this is probably 3 months old by now

[acoustic lava]

I know but damn

[lofty jacinth]

Also we love to come in and spam it with engine talk and references

[tiny blaze]

^

[proper nebula]

⌨️

[tiny blaze]

Me wonder why plumes no work on flightmode

can you spot the mistake?

[tiny blaze]

Ok so finally LOABE thigs

actually no

i need to fix the PEC

[tiny blaze]

idea for SORRY's landing leg @lofty jacinth

i dont want to flatout copy F9 legs

[acoustic lava]

Maybe have it be like one part and ring that attaches to the bottom like this

[tiny blaze]

probably will shrink the middle section a bit

[acoustic lava]

Looks cool!

[ripe crow]

Built like a penguin

[tiny blaze]

I’ll make the painting ressemble a penguin too lmao

[acoustic lava]

How do you make your rocket plumes

[tiny blaze]

not yet available

[tiny blaze]

heh

i dont know if i like it tbh

[lofty jacinth]

the edges are a bit too sharp

I think it'd look ok if it was a bit smoother

[tiny blaze]

hmm fair

i was trynna get a similar style to the big landing legs on KSp2

[tiny blaze]

@lofty jacinth better?
worse?
Its a remodel, i still have the old one

im mostly trynna improve my skills thus me making this remodel

[lofty jacinth]

It it going to have a bit of a curve to "hug" the appropriate diameter tank?

[tiny blaze]

yeah obviously

still dont know how much tho
might make it enough for 8 to fit radially

[lofty jacinth]

I would do it at least somewhat in a similar ratio to width as the Falcon

But it's up to you!

[tiny blaze]

no yeah probalby better

[tiny blaze]

thyong to give it a bit more personality

[tiny blaze]

looks mediocre

gonna put it in game

just so i can test how landing legs work

[tiny blaze]

At least i got a LOT better at normals and topology

[slender haven]

Looks good but it kinda looks like the Star Trek logo lmao

[tiny blaze]

yeah a bit lmao

[slender haven]

im currently working on some legs as well does it use animations or does the game handle that

[tiny blaze]

it uses anims

and suspensions and a few other things

im trynna figure out how all of it connects together

[slender haven]

ie only done the blender donut animation

[tiny blaze]

depending on the legs you use
Base
Lock
Boogey

oh i mean you can animate on unity too

but its all pretty much the same

keyframes on what you need to change

[slender haven]

ill go watch a couple tutorials shouldnt be to hard

[tiny blaze]

heh

could be a bit bigger

but looks decent in game @lofty jacinth thoughts?

also need to make it not sit on its tippy toes lmao

[lofty jacinth]

Haha yeah

[tiny blaze]

never thought that making an elevation/suspension system would be so much work

[tiny blaze]

We're so winning

now to animate all this

@lofty jacinth

[lofty jacinth]

Ooh nice

[tiny blaze]

i actually really like how they look in game

maybe a bit small

but i'm working on it

[tiny blaze]

now to model the MD, LG and XL version

yes each one will have a diffrent model

cuz im tryna set up my modding game

IG hire me

[sly elbow]

Did you say your making colonies mods that can make ships is that on other planets? Or a space building dock?

[tiny blaze]

yup that also!

you can make ships

and editor your colony

[sly elbow]

Cool I can't get the big ball shape fuel tank in space so that make it easier

[tiny blaze]

just add a couple raptors and it will get to space in no time xD

[median canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-energy-sword-gif-24926188

[gritty spruce]

that's perfect

[tiny blaze]

thx :D

[sly elbow]

Any sneaky peak at conlony

[tiny blaze]

#🔴modeling-and-art message

im not focusing colonies as of now tho

[quiet birch]

[ripe crow]

Pro

[lofty jacinth]

noticed an... interesting thing happening when I time warp with the RCS nosecone

[tiny blaze]

You dont need it euther way so its fine

Its already in the vaccum so

Lmao

Ill look into that

[opaque citrus]

Best part is no part - Elon Musk 🙂

[tiny blaze]

@slender haven @steep lichen the drag cube exporter

you need both

just click on the part that you want to export the cube to BepInEx/plugins/Patchouli/Debug/DragCubes/

it exports as partName_#.json

then just copy to wherever you want

also you can search for the localized name

and for the partName

to search just for the partname, untick Localized Name

[slender haven]

im not sure what the issue is but i cant seem to load the dragcube generator both mods are installed in the plugin folders and im using spacewarp 1.4.0

[tiny blaze]

Ah great its happening on urs too

Go to the bepinex/plugins/patchouli/patchouli.moddingtools/swinfo

And check if it has spec 1.3 at the top

If so remove that line

[lofty jacinth]

That's not a good fix

[tiny blaze]

I know lmao

But its not a release yet

I have to look into that but was already too late

Any idea what it might be?

Its being detected as codeless

[lofty jacinth]

It tells you the ID is mismatched

Sounds like your BepInEx GUID and your swinfo.json ID are not the same

Which they have to be since 1.3

[tiny blaze]

But they are 😭😭

Gotta doble check

Bepin is the one on my plugin info?

[slender haven]

Thanks for the fix i can now get the menu up for it but im not sure how to export the cubes

[tiny blaze]

Just click on the name you want

It will export to Patchouli/Debug/DragCubes

Oh, the part has to be on the oab

So just put the part in the oab and it will appear

[slender haven]

does anything happen when you click it ingame

[tiny blaze]

Nop

I should add something tho lmao

Ill add like a Cube for partName Exported

[slender haven]

Ive look in the plugins and my whole harddrive with Patchouli and all that comes up is the zip mod and the extracted mod in the plugins folder

[tiny blaze]

wait

How did u install the mod

There should be a patachouli folder under plugins

Patchouli

[slender haven]

i put both mods in the plugins

[tiny blaze]

Oh i see the problem

Might be on my part

Put both Patchouli.Core and Patchouli.ModdingTools under a new folder called Patchouli

Oh btw

Your cubes are in that Debug folder there

On your printscreen

[slender haven]

oh lmao

u didnt even notice it

i

[tiny blaze]

Yeah xD i need to fix the zip for it to install correctly

[slender haven]

all good it works thought!

[tiny blaze]

🙏🙏

Then just copy those into unity

This helps with performance as the game doesnt have to calculate them

[slender haven]

I made a few too many copies wouldnt you say lmao

[tiny blaze]

Llmao yeah it makes 1 per click

Because if you have animations you need cubes for the deplyed and retracted position

[slender haven]

none of my parts in game have animations until i get that landing leg but yeah when i first tested it i clicked a bunch

[tiny blaze]

found the problem

i changed the namespace

and myplugininfo generates on the default namepsace

so it was using spacewarp's myplugininfo

[slender haven]

Nice! you found that pretty quick

[tiny blaze]

:D I'll upload it to a github to make it easier to get it

[tiny blaze]

the CoM is here btw

just in case you didn't know

somehwere here

dont ask me where

also

[opaque citrus]

well that's definitely correct 👍

[rotund gyro]

pissworld

also sorry for like

abandoning the uh

starship thing lmfao

[tiny blaze]

lmao dw

its ok

[rotund gyro]

might continue it

maybe

idkf

idfk

[tiny blaze]

lmao dw about it fr! like is more important!

Im adding a lock feature on gridfins so you can lock them and not be able to Extend them or retract in flight

so they act like Starshipts

[ripe crow]

Deb deb leaked

[acoustic lava]

deb deb

[slender haven]

Damn this looks amazing!

[tiny blaze]

making the body paintable was a mistake lmao

[lofty jacinth]

love it

[tiny blaze]

emissive is too strong i think

[lofty jacinth]

maybe a bit, yeah

also I don't think the turbopump exhaust pipe should get that hot?

but idk

[quiet birch]

its really not supposed to have any emissive

merlin has those cooling channels in the nozzle

reminds me of the ksp2 vector

it has emissive yet has those liquid cooling channels

[tiny blaze]

So they dont get red at all?

[tiny blaze]

Oh btw the attachment node is offset in a way that it clips

So that its easier to build rockets

The stack node is as it shows on the printscreen

But the surface node is like the one on top of the middle tank

[quiet birch]

nope

mvac only gets red because it doesnt have the cooling channels

[lofty jacinth]

btw the Tundra Merlin is actually 0.625

just checked

[tiny blaze]

.625??????

Thats so small lmao

And the falcon is 1.25m?

[lofty jacinth]

I mean it's 0.92m in real life

[lofty jacinth]

no, 2.5m

[tiny blaze]

I mean yeah but 😭

Heh makes sense since the merlins arent that close together irl

[lofty jacinth]

as a rule of thumb, KSP parts are ~0.625*real life size

and choose the closest "standardized" size to that number

[tiny blaze]

I mean i might make the nozzle .625 but eith the turbopump it goes to a .9275

[quiet birch]

only if its really close to another size

[lofty jacinth]

Falcon 9 is 3.7, and 3.7*0.625 is 2.3125, so the in-game F9 is 2.5m

[quiet birch]

some mods like bdb and sep go for sizes not stabdardized

[tiny blaze]

Well at least so it has a fairing

[tiny blaze]

Why 😭😭

[lofty jacinth]

yeah I mean I consider those "standard" as well

3.125m for Delta IV for example

[quiet birch]

in ksp theres many parts mods with many different rockets
so a slightly smaller rocket would be the same size as a slightly larger rocket in game

so thats why small subsizes are needed

especially in bdb lol that mod has like all the rockeys from 20th century

[lofty jacinth]

yeah, for example an Atlas V fits in 2.5m size, Saturn I fits in 3.75m size, but Delta IV is between them, and it would be weird if it was the same diameter as one of them

[quiet birch]

yep

[lofty jacinth]

0.3125, 0.625, 0.9375, 1.25, 1.5, 1.875, 2.5, 3.125, 3.75, 4.25, 5, 5.625, 7.5, 10

I would consider those the "standard" sizes

[quiet birch]

7?

[tiny blaze]

No 9m

[quiet birch]

id say 7.5m is more standard than 7m

[lofty jacinth]

ah maybe you're right, I didn't remember that one exactly

[lofty jacinth]

I mean, what sort of rocket would fit in that category?

that would be ~14.4m diameter

I know that 7.5 and 10 also don't really have IRL counterparts, but they're at least like "round" numbers

[quiet birch]

yeah 7.5 and 10 are more for like original parts

like a heavy launch vehicle parts mod

[lofty jacinth]

also I somehow forgot 5m in that list lmao

when that's literally stock parts

[acoustic lava]

No it wasn’t

[opaque citrus]

What's the status of switch-a-roo (or how do you spell it 🙂 )?

[tiny blaze]

I was looking for a better implementation of variants, it works as of now but a bit messy

Rn landing legs susspensions are kicking my a

[tiny blaze]

the main problem is that its not easy to find a good way to apply to everything

you einter apply the changes on OAB, or on OAB>Flight load, or SaveLoad, Or just to the corepartdata or just to the modules

theres no all in one place (yet)

i've been trying to look for a better solution tho

i think i'll just use my transpiler, it worked very well

the main idea behind it is for anyone to be able to create their own Variants to their needs

and have something like a Community Variant Kit or smth like that

ie, you create a scansat mod, and you want to add a new type of variant that switches between a high altitude scanner or a low altitude, but more precise one

you could jsut create your own Variant

and have a dropdown in game

[opaque citrus]

Maybe I missunderstood what switch-a-roo would be. I was thinking about a mod that would add new/custom resources to, for example, tanks or command pods. So switch resources from fuel/lox to the custom resource. Is that the intent for switch-a-roo? Or is that for the patch manager?

[tiny blaze]

i mean that too

basically B9 part switcher

but it has to have some reliable code behind it xD

basically it will be a in-OAB switcher, so if the modder wants, he can have a no gimbal version of the engine with more thrust that you can just select on the OAB

no need for a new part

or ie you'll be able to switch the engine's collar mesh (or even disable it) and thje part will move accordingly

or change the fuel tank to any other fuel you want (including custom fuels)

since the scope is pretty big its a bit hard to target everything with the minimal harmony patches/complexity

[opaque citrus]

Alright, I'm looking forward to it 🙂 . Although for my immediate use case, it doesn't need to be selectable in OAB. It would be ok if it's only in compile time (patch) that resources are selected/defined.

[lofty jacinth]

That sounds more like a job for Patch Manager then, though that's still WIP

[opaque citrus]

yes, Im also thinking patch manager would be more appropriate for this. Ill be following both to see the progress.

[tiny blaze]

We are indeed getting somewhere

[tiny blaze]

We are indeeed getting somwhere

we're so fucking back

i really need ot find a way to fix the resource manager cuz its driving me nuts

[acoustic lava]

Nice

[ripe crow]

Are we barack

[acoustic lava]

No we’re obamb

[tiny blaze]

https://i.imgur.com/MEq58Jw.png

all the colar options

as of now

[acoustic lava]

Nice now send me ea for the mod

For

Testing purposes

[tiny blaze]

https://github.com/LuxStice/SORRY/releases/tag/v1.0.0pre @lofty jacinth if you want to try it too

the landing legs still need balancing

its pretty hard to get them to work properly like this ngl

[acoustic lava]

Yes

[floral glacier]

So um, I tried them and when my vessel blew, ultimately landing... The camera focus became a single leg. Flying thousands of meters high from the ground. That's a TWR right there for you 😄

p.s how to use and apply the colars? (sorry for the stupid question)

[tiny blaze]

No its ok xD thats from another mod! Ill release a test version asap

Let me just get to the computer!

[tiny blaze]

xD these landing legs are a bit special

[tiny blaze]

Oh

a sec

gotta do something

hm

its a bug on spacewarp

but i'll give it a fix on Parts MAnager too

[floral glacier]

Ha, Always bug finding. You're doing a great job with KSP2, Mod community is literally keeping it alive!

[tiny blaze]

there! those 2

[tiny blaze]

Thx :D I try my best xD

i love KSP1 modding scene and im trying my best to remake it on KSP2 asap

[acoustic lava]

ded

lux has died

[obsidian hound]

I hope not

[floral glacier]

He's not. Also Loving Parts Manager!!!

[tiny blaze]

All working well on it? Any bugs yet?

[floral glacier]

I've not noticed anything. I've maybe only had 4 hours of play time though! Lifes chaos!

Especially with 2 young kiddos

Am I right in saying you're working on a TweakSize type thing. Like auto scaling of tanks + contents? Guessing that's something that Parts Manager will work well with is all.

I wish I knew how to dev, Work in IT Infrastructure and do various hardare stuff. But not much on dev.

[tiny blaze]

🙏

[tiny blaze]

If you work on that its pretty easy to get into dev! But start with the basics cuz else youll be overwhelmed

[tiny blaze]

Parts manager can deffinetly do that as well, but will take a bit more work since tweak scale allows for pretty much any value, and as of now, parts manager only allows for modder selected values

[floral glacier]

Okay, so I just spent some time doing things, Seems Parts Manager doesn't allow Monoprop tanks to hold monoprop.

[tiny blaze]

😭

Might be an easy fiz

[tiny blaze]

Does it even have a monoprop option?

[acoustic lava]

@tiny blaze Idk if you know this already but Or oab extensions mod makes the mirror part unusable and acts like it's 2 way symmetry

[floral glacier]

Nah no option for Mono Prop

[floral glacier]

Can also confirm, Also I've noticed sometimes (not always) when grabbing and placing multiples of parts even if it's set to place 4 parts it'll try place 20 of it if I've just added 20 engines lets say it'll then try adding 20 strutts or grid find. Rather annoying

[tiny blaze]

Already fixed on newer version

[tiny blaze]

That i’ll need some research, the picks 4 places 20

[tiny blaze]

We're getting somewhere @lofty jacinth

[lofty jacinth]

oooh I see fire

[tiny blaze]

vollumetric even 🙏

[lofty jacinth]

it is going to be more performance-heavy than the mesh-based ones? I would assume so but I don't have much experience

[tiny blaze]

yeah much more

tho, it depends on the settings

it can still be pretty light, or pretty heavy

i was actually thinking about doing a voxel based with real time fuild simulation but..........

you can imagine what 20 engines with that would look like

[lofty jacinth]

lmao

yeah

though I imagine that would work really cool with multiple engine plumes interactions

and stuff like retroburning

[tiny blaze]

yup, would be way more natural and a lot less headache for devs (me)

[quiet birch]

👍

[quiet birch]

just simulate one and reuse that sim at different playing times

[lofty jacinth]

but then that would remove the benefit of the plume interactions

[tiny blaze]

i could probably do it with a compute shader ngl

baiscally uses the GPU to calculate instead of the CPU

and the GPU Is like 500x faster (maybe not that much)

i have an idea for fuild simulation

light wieght

with quadtrees and raymarching

[lofty jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-listening-go-on-jon-stewart-gif-7666771

[tiny blaze]

during my reserch i stumbled across this

they basically have a 3D grid with each cube containg the fuel, density, temperate etc

https://cs184-firesim.github.io/final-report/#ref-9

to see it animated

it looks so fucking realistic

https://youtu.be/cubqTUT3Pgo?t=38

the idea is to create a Quadtree (basically splits a dimension into points of intrests) and having the mean direction, force, density and temperate, and raymarching the flame with that

[lofty jacinth]

oh nice, that does looks really cool

[scenic hull]

Lux on his way to implement a FEM for KSP engine plumes 😁

[tiny blaze]

i might lmao

ok so im getting somewhat decent results

the compression

lmao you cant shee shit

let me record with obs

[scenic hull]

How do you envision implementing supersonic effects such as shock diamonds? I guess the supersonic fluid simulation might be a bit too uncomputable? (genuinely curious)

[tiny blaze]

the idea of the fluid sim would handle that pretty well, since it would also take into account atmo pressure and all that fun stuff, and it would pretty much be all in 1 formula

but as for the current thing that im working

im gonna probably make a shader only for that

[median canopy]

This looks so good lux!

[median canopy]

It's all from 1 class. If you look at FFT's dev build look at RefreshVesselData class. I borrowed the shell from Micro Engineer. It gets all of the calculations for atmo, pressure, velocity, etc

It may help but you may already know about it

[tiny blaze]

starting to get something very fucking decent

i only have a problem with some rendering issues

@lofty jacinth @quiet birch

[quiet birch]

nice

but the noise tiles a lot

[tiny blaze]

yeah its just a test noise for now

as im using a 3D noise

idk if i can use a 2D noise w/o it looking wierd

gotta test

[quiet birch]

i use 3d noise in mine

the trick is to scale it not just uniformly in all directions but have different scales for vertical and horizontal

and also adjust contrast

[tiny blaze]

now to translate this into hsls

[acoustic lava]

gooooooooooodddddddddddd

DAMN

[tiny blaze]

done

[tiny blaze]

@pastel edge this is my main issue with non vollumetric plumes

they dont work well with expansion as you can see

for anyone who wants to start making some plumes

you can use this "dev kit"

tomorrow i'll clean up the actual editor

but you can start shaping them with this

@median canopy @quiet birch @potent aurora

who else was making engines?

@slender haven

just copy everything on the zip into a unity proj and start ideating

[quiet birch]

ok

awesome

[median canopy]

dope. Thank you lux!

[potent aurora]

Some of us (me for example) may need just a bit more guidance...

[tiny blaze]

yeah im making the video rn xD

[potent aurora]

Awesome!

[tiny blaze]

also updated zip

[potent aurora]

I'm working on a brand new blend for a bigger better engine. I messed up the last one and really didn't want to recreate it as there were issues with it anyway.

This one is a nested hall thruster modeled after the real one the University of Michigan made called X3

This one is 0.8 m in diameter and about 0.1 tall, so much bigger

I could make a base for it so that it works better on a 1.25 scale.

I could also take off the outer ring and get it down to 0.625 pretty easily

[tiny blaze]

ohh cool cool

thats how you improve in 3D modelling

just doing things over and over again

also, i dont have nitro rn so i can send the video through here 😭

fixed alpha not letting through

also

wait

this is way more intuitive

@potent aurora basically you just do this

and then go layering everything till you havea something pretty

play with the settings and get a feel for what they do, i can tell you what they do too! just ask

tomorrow i'll make a better tutorial tho

[potent aurora]

Cool! This looks like fun! Can you layer them so that a single engine has multiple plumes? Is there any way to get an annular plume (i know that’s a crazy weird request, but these crazy electric thrusters are like that

[tiny blaze]

yeah

what is an annular plume? xD

as for the 1st question, yeah

just add more layers :D

and move them do wtv you feel w them

ah i see

well, annullar plumes will be better in volumetric

but yeah you can do them on this shader too

[potent aurora]

Cool! I’ll have to give that a try! First though I have to get the damn thing to bake…