Lux's Devlog | KSP2 Redux | Page 3

lofty jacinth Mar 25, 2023, 3:03 AM

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(the white dots)

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I like the welds though

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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I'll release with it to see what people think, but either way i'll try to make a way to change PM textures in game

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shouldn't be hard

lofty jacinth Mar 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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gives me Mk1 vibes

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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exaclty what i was going for

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but probably they are too deep

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gotta experiment

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Not too big of a fan of how many plates there are, might look nicer with reduced height

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They're very sharp lines where I think it would look alot nicer with some smoother lines

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IMO, looks like pre-painted plates that were attached together, instead of attached then painted, with a very clear and defined seam line

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:10 AM

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tldr: paint the seams and remove a couple of the tiles

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hmm ok

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makes sense

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also smoother lines, you mean the crease lineS? make them less deep?

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 3:15 AM

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Yeah

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Reduce the height level @tiny blaze

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 6:05 AM

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Why tf are control surfaces so hard to fix???????????

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wtf

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wanted to have this ready before i go out for the weeknd

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it was suposed to be as easy as changin this "CtrlTransformSign": -1.0,

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 6:22 AM

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tiny blaze it was suposed to be as easy as changin this `"CtrlTransformSign": -1.0,`

grabby

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Waiting for updates for every day lol

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 6:23 AM

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i'll release with the graphics update

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 6:23 AM

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Too bad Stage-Info is currently broken

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 6:23 AM

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i dont have anymore time anymore :(

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 6:23 AM

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Can I see your new textures?

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 6:23 AM

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yeah let me reopen the game

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they're still a bit off tbh

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but i gotta leave in 30 min lmao

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and i'm still in my pijamas

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gridfins look rusty ik

wispy steeple Mar 25, 2023, 6:26 AM

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tiny blaze

Getting there, but its way better

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 6:26 AM

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my unwrap is shit for this kind of stuff

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i wanted to do those normal streaks on the bottom

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but its impossible with a rounded uv

proper nebula Mar 25, 2023, 2:25 PM

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what would be nice is some inline gridfins. like a probe core with them embedded or a monoprop/fuel tank

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 2:41 PM

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proper nebula what would be nice is some inline gridfins. like a probe core with them embedded...

Yup was gonna model that this weekend

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I plan pn having mono, lf, ec, and maybe rcs ports with it too

keen prawn Mar 25, 2023, 2:46 PM

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Spring loaded grid fins

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Should i make a bigger variant of the gridfins?

proper nebula Mar 25, 2023, 2:49 PM

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XXXXXXXXXL

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Like the ones on the old model of starships?

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No like XL but more drag

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Hmm im thinking

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Engine that is the same height as normal lifter engines, but has wider nozzle

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You put 8 lifters and 3 of these wider nozzles in the middle

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And use them to circularize with your lifter stage, and then get back

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Might do that

lofty jacinth Mar 25, 2023, 3:16 PM

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tiny blaze Like the ones on the old model of starships?

like these?

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Yup

lofty jacinth Mar 25, 2023, 3:17 PM

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that'd be awesome

tiny blaze Mar 25, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Might make it the XL variant

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And one for L too but scaled down

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Tho it would be nice for gridfins to actually work…

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Its hard to tell how they work since currently all are procedurally generated

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Gonna debug the source code when i get home to see if i find anything but doubt

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Should i make the inline gridfins static?

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or let them rotate?

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this is the idea, but pretty , a place for the solar panels, and one for the gridfins, will make a new model for the fins, and maybe make the solar panels integrated on the part (or maybe leave for the player to add them? either way the solar panels will have opening doors)

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idk if i'll add doors th the gridfins, doesnt make that much sense

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also the gridfins slot will have the shape of the new fins

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 1:48 PM

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@lofty jacinth how do u feel about gridfins that instead of a grid its a honeycomb?

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the shape of the grid i mean

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IRL would be more efficient but would suffer way more kinetic load since the air would be impacting it at 90º angles instead of the usual 45º on angled square grids

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 1:51 PM

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not sure I follow exactly

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 1:54 PM

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usually they are this angled square

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i was wondering if instead of that square, i make it a honeycomb grid

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mostly just to make the parts look unique

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 2:09 PM

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oh yeah, I guess why not, it could look interesting

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 2:30 PM

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@lofty jacinth doenst look horrible

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it has a funny look to it

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i kinda like it

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 2:30 PM

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oh damn, that's actually really cool and unique!

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 2:30 PM

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i just need to put it on the center

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i'll rock with these for the XL variants

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my plan is to have the normal grid fin, and then these as an large variant
So you have S and then S large that would be these

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and probably will scale the ones in game a bit

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 2:32 PM

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love that idea

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 2:57 PM

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i do these artistic pieces and then find myself stuck trying to make them physically possible

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but i think i found a way

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so 2 pistons on the attaching plate extend

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since its attatched to that pivot on top it will rotate instead

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and that pivot will also work as a rotation pivot

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just gotta make the cutouts and make the animation

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or i could keep it simple since i would need Inverse Kinematics to animate the pistons

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 4:05 PM

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we have something

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@lofty jacinth thoughts?

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 4:05 PM

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I really like it

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it's so futuristic for some reason

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 4:05 PM

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edge has this "rounded" look

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yeah idk hexagons always look futuristic

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if you look at SimCity future dlc everything is made of hexagons lmao

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 4:06 PM

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😆

meager yoke Mar 27, 2023, 4:19 PM

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tiny blaze edge has this "rounded" look

It's called a "bevel".

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tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 4:30 PM

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idk now i feel about this... i felt like it was a wierd pylon in the middle and im trying to remove it

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it was like this before...

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this looks a bit better

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 6:50 PM

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Pwetty

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size comparison,

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actually might remake the OG gridfins because now i actually know how to make them

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also need to do something with the base so it doenst look like that..... idk what tho

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might just curve it

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 6:54 PM

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but damn those looks so good

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 7:02 PM

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ikr, for the inline variant i'll just remove the base and stick them directly into the part model, also this was suposed to be the M size, but i think i'll keep it as the S size, they look good like this

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its about a 1x2 tank tall

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 7:03 PM

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yeah, they work (at least visually) very well with this tank size

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I imagine the rectangular fins could be used with shorter, stubbier stages and these hexagonal ones with very long stages, to compensate for the increased mass for the same diameter

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 7:05 PM

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exactly, tho they maybe are too thin for a heavier version of the small gridfins

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i think i made it half the depth, iirc the gridfins are 0.05 and the honeycombs are 0.025

lofty jacinth Mar 27, 2023, 7:06 PM

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hm, I guess it wouldn't hurt to make them the same thickness

tiny blaze Mar 27, 2023, 8:20 PM

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idk if i should keep this level of detail... its not that costly on the GPU

wispy steeple Mar 28, 2023, 1:41 AM

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tiny blaze idk if i should keep this level of detail... its not that costly on the GPU

What texture quality is that? It looks like 4k

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:41 AM

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its 4k downsized to 2k when exporting

wispy steeple Mar 28, 2023, 1:41 AM

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AAE_ThumbsUp

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Yeah, keep it that way

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:42 AM

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maybe since the part is small+ that area occupies a lot of the texture it is like that

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either way i cant fix the metal texture looking off....

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so many shades off...

wispy steeple Mar 28, 2023, 1:42 AM

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Huh, It must be the undertexture then

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:43 AM

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nop, already tried to chaange it, it seems to be the Mettalic nd GlossScale values

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gonna try to play with them a bit

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its either too dark or too light its very wierd

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:18 PM

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@lofty jacinth idk how to feel about the inline gridfins part...

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it has shading issues and it has no bevels but still doesn't feel like it would go on a rocket

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 1:19 PM

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I still really like the idea, how does it look with the gridfins in?

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:19 PM

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do u have some references that i could look at?

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also idk if i let the player put the fins or not

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fins stick out just a bit

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i migh make them curved, but idk

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 1:20 PM

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Terran R is the only example I know of

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 1:21 PM

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i see its more of a snug fit

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thats what im missing

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its a good idea i just didnt execute it well yet

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:34 PM

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@lofty jacinth We're getting somewhere

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also i like that the insides of the gridfin slot is a different colors

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might make that the Accent

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:34 PM

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oh hell yeah that looks sleek af

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vaultpeter

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:35 PM

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i just dont know how hard it will be to integrate the control surfaces on the same piece as the tank..... since each control surface acts as its own

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:35 PM

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hm

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:35 PM

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maybe i'll leave for the player to put them, and with a collider that allows it to be in the right place

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:36 PM

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yeah that sounds like the easiest option

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just put nodes on the root part

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:36 PM

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surface attachments dont work with nodes iirc

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i could be wrong tho since surface atttchments have the node sprite on their base

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:36 PM

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How come? Afaik engines have both a node and can be surface attached

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:37 PM

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but i think they're separate nodes

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hmm actually let me check

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like, afaik, engines hve a stack node nd a srf node on the same place

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:37 PM

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oh ok, that makes sense

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:38 PM

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yup thts wht they do, i mean i cn do the same

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and add stck nodes on the sides

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My a key is not working correctly noo_why

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:40 PM

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nooooooooo

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:42 PM

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They probably will clip when rotating and when deployed, but that would need a redesing of the gridfin

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nothing to bad tho, i think ill leave it like this until i get it working

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 2:44 PM

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yeah, that seems fine

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and you wouldn't even need to redesign the fin tbh, you could just make some more hollow space for when it's rotated in the root part

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though idk how that'd look

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 2:49 PM

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yeah exactly, the whole thing with the look is it looking sleek

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it would be a big hole

ripe crow Mar 28, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Looks sick so far

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Love the honeycomb

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 5:13 PM

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we're getting there!

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tbh now its just a matter of 0.01s

lofty jacinth Mar 28, 2023, 5:19 PM

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oh yeah, that's looking real close

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 5:23 PM

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i'm content with this @cyan ferry what u think?

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base color for steel rough in Substance Painter HSV 0, 0, 0.98

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just gotta fund why its getting those black dots on the texture

cyan ferry Mar 28, 2023, 5:55 PM

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Yeah that looks pretty close to me!

tiny blaze Mar 28, 2023, 9:53 PM

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Stacknodes seem to work

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gotta fix the dimensions tho

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it will be as tall as a 1x2

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 1:50 AM

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the part is lookin pretty cool ngl

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@lofty jacinth

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 2:00 AM

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oh wow that looks so good

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 2:30 AM

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details and better paintmap

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 8:51 AM

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Deployable engines wen?

crude rover Mar 29, 2023, 8:52 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-american-actor-mind-blown-shocked-surprised-gif-17171746

Tenor

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 8:53 AM

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Probably next in line for moddeling, i want an engine for the lifter stages to use on vaccum, that can also be used in atm

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Deploy it and BAAM wider nozzle so more isp in vaccum

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 3:26 PM

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Future parts!

ripe crow Mar 29, 2023, 4:19 PM

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tiny blaze Deploy it and BAAM wider nozzle so more isp in vaccum

Theres an engine like that in the files

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Nervus engine

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 4:20 PM

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oh so they already plan on a deployable engine cool

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:28 PM

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i might keep the longer look in favor of making it more efficient ngl @lofty jacinth thoughts?

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max for 1.25m now is 260 vaccum, i might make it 290 Atm 310 Vac

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keep the size and tweak the mass

proper nebula Mar 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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tiny blaze i might keep the longer look in favor of making it more efficient ngl <@36697206...

one frosty engine.

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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make it a lifter stage engine, stack like 10 of these bellow a 3.75m tank

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:29 PM

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proper nebula one frosty engine.

for extra performance 🙏

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Lmao

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Took engine chill to the max

frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:50 PM

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tiny blaze i'm content with this <@224260670764351492> what u think?

WHAT IS THIS CAN CAN I USE IT FOR MAKING SOFI W/ NO EFFORT

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:51 PM

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frozen moss WHAT IS THIS CAN CAN I USE IT FOR MAKING SOFI W/ NO EFFORT

its already on the mod i think

frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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tiny blaze its already on the mod i think

excuse me does this mean sofi

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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oh but textures are not upgraded yet

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sofi? 😭

frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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sofi posting

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tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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oh its a tank ok lmao ashusahuas

frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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tiny blaze oh its a tank ok lmao ashusahuas

no its the foam on the tank

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its

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lemme think

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i think its

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 7:53 PM

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OH OK lmao

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well

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when i finish partswitcher prob

frozen moss Mar 29, 2023, 7:53 PM

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tiny blaze when i finish partswitcher prob

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20110014400/downloads/20110014400.pdf

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yes i unironically read nasa reports and achrive them why do you ask

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it just means the tank is orange and a little bumpy

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:03 PM

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comparison of # of engines to FuelCapacity... not great ngl

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both craft are at about 1.2TWR

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:04 PM

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hmm

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:04 PM

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i feel like they shoudl be able to whitstand 1 more tall/ medium tank + the cargo

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they already are double the mass of the stock Swivel

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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if that means anything, the Tundra Falcon 9 is 2.5m and fits 9 of the engines

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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9?????

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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well yeah, Falcon 9

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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it uses 0.675m engines then

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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yeah, most likely

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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cuz the 4 ingines one is 1.25m engines in a 2.5m tank

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if anything, i'll make the 5m size the Falcon 9 equivalent

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:06 PM

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well dayum

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the real Falcon 9 is 3.66m in diameter 😆

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not that it matters much

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:07 PM

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WTF ONLY?

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:08 PM

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yep, it's skinny and really tall

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:08 PM

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starship really is wide then

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:08 PM

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it is

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:08 PM

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either way, 5M, with 9 engines can only lift 2 small tanks lmao

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I feel like the 3.75M (middle) should be my balancing point cuz it looks so good

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and make a 0.675m engine for 2.5m

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:09 PM

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for comparison, Delta IV CBC is 5m

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IRL

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and SLS core is 8.4m

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so Falcon really is skinny

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:10 PM

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oh so Delta IV like KSP 3.75, F9 is 2.5M and SLS 5m

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:10 PM

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usually Delta IV mods are 3.125m I think, and the other two what you said

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with Starship being 5.625

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and all those are balanced for similar performance to IRL when using a roughly 2.7x scaled Kerbin

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:11 PM

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i dont like to add extra diameters

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:12 PM

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yeah I get that

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:12 PM

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just starts looking messy and you cant really use the parts properly cuz its a wierd diameter

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:13 PM

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yeah they're mostly for just building that one single family of rockets, for as much realism as possible

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:55 PM

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should i make the engines this height?

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basically make them a Vector

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:56 PM

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as in, they won't need shrouds because basically the internals won't be visible at all when placed?

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tbh the users can just move them up inside the body of the rocket to simulate this, right?

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:58 PM

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true

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also

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Merlins are 1m diameter and F9 is 3.7m

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maybe i'll make the nozzle up to 1m but keep the engine as a 1.25m

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:59 PM

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hm

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 9:59 PM

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that way they fit nicely under a 3.75m tank

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 9:59 PM

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I guess you could do that, yeah

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:00 PM

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this is te best rn w/o clipping

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also stock nozzles are smaller than the diameter so i think thats ok

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:01 PM

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but they will need tons of thrust to lift a 70m tall rocket, and the rocket should have like 9000 m/s dV with those proportions and ~18t of payload

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:01 PM

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cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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tiny blaze just starts looking messy and you cant really use the parts properly cuz its a w...

Tbf in KSP1 they added at least one of the 'intermediate' sizes (1.875m) to the game in one of the DLCs

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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(of course that is if you want to scale the performance based on the real Merlins and considering they are nearly IRL size)

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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lofty jacinth but they will need tons of thrust to lift a 70m tall rocket, and the rocket shou...

i wont make it as if it was 70m tall tbh, i just want 3 long tanks + vacumm Orbital stage + payload to Escape Trajectory

cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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For modding we settled on 0.3125, 0.625m, 0.9375m, 1.25m, 1.875m, 2.5m, 3.125m, 3.75m, 5m, and 6.25m as the 'standard' diameters

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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cyan ferry Tbf in KSP1 they added at least one of the 'intermediate' sizes (1.875m) to the ...

true, i mean if most part mods end up adding these diameters woulnd't hurt to add them too

cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Then so long as you have an adapter to the stock sizes either side you're OK

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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cyan ferry For modding we settled on 0.3125, 0.625m, 0.9375m, 1.25m, 1.875m, 2.5m, 3.125m, ...

and then the Starship mods snuck in with 5.625 😆

cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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I'd imagine the same standards will develop over time

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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and tbh probably if i add it makes it more likely that people add those diameters to their part mods too

cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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lofty jacinth and then the Starship mods snuck in with 5.625 😆

Oh yeah missed that one

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It still conforms with the others

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:04 PM

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ill work on 1,875 at least because its a good diameter

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0.3 seems too small, maybe for a sattellite focused mod, 3.125 is a good diameter too but i'll see

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i just wonder how i'll add that to the labels (XS, S, M, etc)

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s (uncapitalized) maybe?

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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it's so dumb that they just left out 1.875m parts and didn't even leave a letter for it

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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XS, s, S, m, M, l, L

cyan ferry Mar 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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Yeah not a lot used 0.3125m

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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SM?

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small-medium?

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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could be too

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but then you get to L-XL

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L-SXL-XL?

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:06 PM

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how about S+, M+, L+?

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:06 PM

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Oh thats good yeah

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i wonder if the game will order them correctly i hope so

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:06 PM

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yeah that'll be interesting to see

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:52 PM

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damn stock nozzles are pretty small wtf

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already downsized by like 20%

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and still a bit too big

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:53 PM

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it's fine like that tbh

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:55 PM

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true but still doesnt quite fit in a 1+8radial setup

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 10:56 PM

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hmm

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I guess if it isn't really meant as a Merlin counterpart, then there's no need for 9 to fit

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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its suposed to be a merlin kerbalized

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so it kinda should fit all 9

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 11:00 PM

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I mean yeah, but the proportions of the rocket will also be very different, so is a different number of engines the worst that could happen?

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 11:00 PM

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tbh not that different

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3.7M diameter F9 - 3.75m KSP2

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 11:00 PM

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yeah but I mean the height

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it would have to be 70+ meters tall

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 11:01 PM

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oh yeah true

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i could do a 1+6 if anything

lofty jacinth Mar 29, 2023, 11:01 PM

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👍

tiny blaze Mar 29, 2023, 11:36 PM

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so, testing a bit with the 9 Mirin thos would be what i think a F9 kerbalized would look like

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maybe cargo is way to tall tho

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bro merlin TWR its crazy to lift a rocket that big wtf

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i dont feel that comfortable to put such thrust in a KSP 1.25m engine lmao

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i'll tweak this craft to be have 1.4 TWR, then i'll lower the ISP to disencourage player from using it as a 1st stage 1.25m engine

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even if i half the size of the engine, it wont match the 70m, unless i triple the thrust which is dumb

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 12:11 AM

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that sounds reasonable

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:16 AM

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it works

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not as unbalanced as i was expecting

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barelly can lift it with 18 tons of payload

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going straight up doesnt go that far

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:17 AM

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Falcon 9 "recreation" - doesn't have grid fins

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nooooooooo

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:17 AM

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2900 m/s, taking into consideration that it should burn bac to the KSC

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TRUE FORGOT ABOUT THE MOST ICONIC PART WTF

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:17 AM

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kekw

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:20 AM

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fairing needs redo but yeah

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now to balance the 460kn 1.25m engine.........

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double the Swivel klueless

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:22 AM

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I mean you made it life-sized

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and irl it has 720 kN in vacuum

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munley

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so you could argue that 460kN is still not enough

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:22 AM

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i'll acc make a vaccum variant

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but probably wont need fucking 460kn

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:23 AM

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wait I was wrong, that was an older version

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:23 AM

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its fucking ridiculous lmao, tho the upper stage is there already do that mass is also acounted for

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:23 AM

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for the sea-level variant

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:23 AM

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😭 im at half just to get 1.1TWR

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:24 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

Tenor

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:24 AM

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idk tho, KSP scaling is wierd

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Well actually no, Kerbin is easier to exit so requires less TWR compared to earth

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ig Merlin TWR would be equivalent to my engine for KSP?

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:25 AM

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no idea how heavy you made it

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IRL it's 184 TWR

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:25 AM

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im saying total TWR accounting for all Falcon 9 wieght

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:25 AM

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at 0.47 tons

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:25 AM

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payload weight

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im guessing that F9 is about 1.2 to 1.3 TWR at sea level

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couldnt find that info idk why

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:27 AM

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1.35 roughly I think

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at 100% thrust

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and full payload

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:28 AM

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hmm

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so 600kn engines kekw

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wont do that im already thinking of lowering it lmao

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:28 AM

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balancing a real-life sized engine for a 10x smaller solar system gets weird lmao

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:29 AM

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I mean tbh this could be something that u unlock with 3.75m engines

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:29 AM

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yeah it's definitely an advanced engine

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:29 AM

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The worst part is that parts and fuel weight seem to be the same as irl???

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:29 AM

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in KSP terms

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 AM

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cuz if it was 10x smaller then i wouldnt need 600kn to get 1.35 twr i think

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600kn PER engine

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 AM

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honestly I still think it would work best in the 0.625 size

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it would be easier to balance

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 AM

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yeah, i probably will end up downgrading it to 0.625

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the raptor as a 1.25m

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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here's a comparison of the two

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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and make vaccum version with high ISP and a slighty more thrust

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maybe BE-4 as 2.5m?

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for 5m lifter stages?

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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that'd be cool, yeah

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hm

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or maybe 1.875

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since you'd ideally fit 7 like on New Glenn

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:32 AM

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TRUEE those intermediate sizes would work great here

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im sure that this engine i created is already very near to the 0.9 mark

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havent checked tho

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:33 AM

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yeah then it definitely makes sense to make it a bit smaller to account for the ~2.5x scaling balance

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:33 AM

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tho, i dont think that, in sandbox mode, the high thrust will be much of an annoyance to players

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but it will have to be well balanced in science/carrer tho as for when it gets unlocked

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:34 AM

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(aka the engines in the stock game have similar performance to real world counterparts when the solar system is 2.5x bigger than stock)

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so they aren't scaled 10x like the solar system

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they're OP by design

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:34 AM

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hmm that makes sense since rn the engine has about x2.2 less thrust than the real counterpart

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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yeah

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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yeah, Merlin as 0.9

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raptor as 1.8

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or raptor as 1.25

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and Be-4 as 1.8

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i think it will be good like that, also will work on the covers for the engines tomorrow

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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👍

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awesome work on all those parts

keen prawn Mar 30, 2023, 2:37 AM

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Oh shit we actually bout to be gettin custom engines?

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:37 AM

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we already have them :D

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they are usable already, just havent published yet

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also no VFX but i think i found how to make them

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        {
            MetaAssemblySizeFilterType.XS,
            1f
        },
        {
            MetaAssemblySizeFilterType.S,
            5f
        },
        {
            MetaAssemblySizeFilterType.M,
            10f
        },```

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Looks like i'll be able to add the XS+,S+, M+ and order it correctly

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maybe, since that MetaAssembly--- is a enum... i'll see what i can do

wispy steeple Mar 30, 2023, 3:41 AM

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engines alreadY?!

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 7:23 AM

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keen prawn Oh shit we actually bout to be gettin custom engines?

I tried, mine didn't want to produce thrust sadly

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 10:02 AM

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verbal olive I tried, mine didn't want to produce thrust sadly

Flip the thrust vector, that was my issue at least

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 10:08 AM

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Will try

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 10:09 AM

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Change the mode to local, the green arrow should point to the direction of the thrust

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 10:09 AM

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Well another issue was that it only had the crossfeed option, so might have to also look into that

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Planned parts:
-MK2 RCS Block (short size, 4 rcs ports on top, 4 on the bottom, angles 45º for F/B and U/D translation)
-Merlin as 0.9m engine
-Raptor as 1.25m engine
-BE-4 as 1.8m engine
-MK2 Vtol engine (Body part with 2 engines on each side and end part with forward-downwards modes)
-1.25m to MK2 adapter with intakes
-Airbrakes (Like the B9 airbrakes, slim)
-Aerodynamic Landing Legs (Falcon 9 a line)
-Inline Chutes (real chutes a like, but with tank's texture)
-Inline service module with RCS tanks, reaction wheel, solar panels and batteries
-Aerodynamic Docking port
-Aerodynamic RCS Blocks

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@lofty jacinth can you fix the message above?

lofty jacinth Mar 30, 2023, 2:13 PM

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tiny blaze Planned parts: -MK2 RCS Block (short size, 4 rcs ports on top, 4 on the bottom, ...

ripe crow Mar 30, 2023, 4:15 PM

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What parts have been added?

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:16 PM

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none on the public version yet

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but we have these to be published once they are polished

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 4:17 PM

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verbal olive Well another issue was that it only had the crossfeed option, so might have to a...

well I found out why

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:17 PM

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verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 4:17 PM

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I had basically ignored the engine module 💀

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:17 PM

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LOL that makes sense

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:18 PM

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ripe crow What parts have been added?

new large gridfins, inline gridfin tank (basically a tank with slots for the new gridfins to sit on so they dont stick out)

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and a KSP version of Merlin

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 4:18 PM

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wait you already added an engine to ksp2?

ripe crow Mar 30, 2023, 4:18 PM

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tiny blaze

Awesome, looks like terran r

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:18 PM

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that was the reference!

ripe crow Mar 30, 2023, 4:19 PM

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tiny blaze and a KSP version of Merlin

Will it have a methane plume or a kerosene plume? 🤣

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 4:19 PM

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lmao methane to fit the other ones

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but would be nice a kerosene one

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maybe if a mod adds kerosene as fuel

ripe crow Mar 30, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Yea i hope someone makes real fuels

verbal olive Mar 30, 2023, 4:34 PM

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Methalox is a real fuel doe

crude rover Mar 30, 2023, 8:50 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

Tenor

fair wraith Mar 30, 2023, 8:50 PM

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2425 messages

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2426

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My bad now its 2427

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keeps changing on me, now its 2428

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 8:52 PM

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just people talking nothing to see here mr officer

fair wraith Mar 30, 2023, 8:53 PM

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🤔 Ok... Have a good day sir

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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Raptor is forming

proper nebula Mar 30, 2023, 10:17 PM

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nice

tiny blaze Mar 30, 2023, 11:39 PM

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stuff(tm)

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gotta fit supports in this somehow

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and a couple of pressure equalizer

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 2:00 AM

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🤔

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5M tank btw

ripe crow Mar 31, 2023, 2:42 AM

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tiny blaze 🤔

They look like they have cell shading

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 2:57 AM

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oh yeah those are untextured

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just finished texturing them gonna fire the game to see how they look

ripe crow Mar 31, 2023, 3:12 AM

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tiny blaze just finished texturing them gonna fire the game to see how they look

Send pics when possible 😋

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 3:15 AM

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THEY ARE LOOKING GOOD!

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let me jst reimport the mesh

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behold

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ripe crow Mar 31, 2023, 3:20 AM

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What will they be called?

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archaeopteryx😆

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 3:26 AM

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they dont have a name yet

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i named it Reiptor-12 but just so it wasnt named "TestEngine2"

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 3:27 AM

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tiny blaze behold

i just noticed the mess of tubes and wiring, love it

ripe crow Mar 31, 2023, 3:58 AM

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Do gridfins produce drag

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 3:59 AM

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When opened yes

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Drag and lift

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Tho those values have to be tweaked by a lot, but its not worthit until we know what depth is

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They also produce very little drag when closed

crude rover Mar 31, 2023, 8:07 AM

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tiny blaze behold

This looks amazing!!!! So messy and looks just like it.

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 12:42 PM

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@lofty jacinth since you requested the engine covers, should i do only all engines the same size? or like, 8x1.25m and 3x1.8m in the middle?

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sounds dumb since they are not the same level but i could change the attach point a bit downwards so they are

lofty jacinth Mar 31, 2023, 12:43 PM

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I'd say for now just the same size

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that's how most boosters are

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 1:06 PM

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Substance Painter

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mostly Steel rough with normals on

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and about .1 normal intensity

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actally everything is steel rough, i have to get a rubber material for the cables

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also im, using 4k textures

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at least on these main parts i'll use 4k, tanks and so i'll probably use 2k

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once i get FX working

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no point in having a engine tutorial and you cant have FX on them 😭

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we're close tho

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Layer it a bit more, add yellow, orange a nd a bit of blue on the tip and were set

crude rover Mar 31, 2023, 9:46 PM

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What build should i use for the new engines/

tiny blaze Mar 31, 2023, 10:26 PM

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none yet!

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they arent in yet

crude rover Mar 31, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Ah I see. Such a tease, well im very much looking forward to them.

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 12:00 PM

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@lofty jacinth should i make the 5M the starship equivalent or leave it for something bigger?

meager yoke Apr 1, 2023, 1:17 PM

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what's the actual diameter of Starship/Superheavy IRL again?

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:21 PM

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9M

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Raptors are 1.25m in diameter iirc

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so its about 7 times larger

meager yoke Apr 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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I'd probably save the KSP version for at least 7.5m

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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yeah makes sense

verbal olive Apr 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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Are we talking engines or fuel tanks rn

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:22 PM

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well, I'll get covers for 2.5m, 3.75m and 5m and then i'll release the next update!

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this is a fuck ton of new parts

meager yoke Apr 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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IIRC, the usual practice for making KSP versions of IRL stuff is to pick the nearest size to the actual nominal diameter of the real thing, then usually decrease it by one size increment.

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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3 covers, 2 engines, 3 new gridfins and 3 Inline Gridfin tanks

verbal olive Apr 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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Jesus

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I defs will see how you made the engines work tho kekw

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:24 PM

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let me show u how they look in unity

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All Modules are on Reiptor-12

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Other than thrustTransform, everything is just MeshRenderers and filters

lofty jacinth Apr 1, 2023, 1:33 PM

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meager yoke IIRC, the usual practice for making KSP versions of IRL stuff is to pick the nea...

If we're talking Starship, that's always been 5.625m in KSP 1

meager yoke Apr 1, 2023, 1:33 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lofty jacinth Apr 1, 2023, 1:33 PM

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If you don't want such a small increment from 5m, I'd suggest at least going for 6.25 instead of 7.5

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5m would be closer but it wouldn't make much sense if Falcon will be 3.75m

verbal olive Apr 1, 2023, 1:41 PM

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tiny blaze

My structure is defs not like that jeez

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 1:44 PM

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your structure shoudl be

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for every part

Empty game object

model (empty)

meshes

collider for that mesh

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dont add too many colliders too

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and for engines should be

>model(Empty Game Oject)
>>EngineMesh(with no nozzle)
>>>Gimbal(Empty GameObject)
>>>>NozzleMesh
>>>>>thrustTransform(emptyGameObject)
>>>>>>Plumes```

tiny blaze Apr 1, 2023, 9:47 PM

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He's shy

ripe crow Apr 1, 2023, 11:42 PM

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New rcs effects? 👀

tiny blaze Apr 2, 2023, 12:04 AM

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trying to

torpid gazelle Apr 3, 2023, 12:19 PM

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tiny blaze He's shy

They look Good

tiny blaze Apr 3, 2023, 10:54 PM

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so i just accidentally posted my instagram dms on main SORRY cuz Sharex records the main screen frist then the game... disregard that lmao

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i rlly gotta get a better recording system...

meager yoke Apr 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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dude

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OBS Studio

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there's very little reason to use anything else

tiny blaze Apr 3, 2023, 10:57 PM

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well

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i cant rlly crop it

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thats what i miss from OBS

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the option to Ctrl+prnt scrn and just

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same goes for videos btw

lofty jacinth Apr 3, 2023, 10:59 PM

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tbh for quick videos to show off something, I just use the default Windows snippet tool

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lol

tiny blaze Apr 3, 2023, 11:01 PM

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wtf that records?

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thats new lmao

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OHH

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windows 11

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that makes sense

lofty jacinth Apr 3, 2023, 11:02 PM

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yeah it seems to be relatively new

tiny blaze Apr 3, 2023, 11:02 PM

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wait theres a windows store version maybe i dont need to upgrade

meager yoke Apr 4, 2023, 8:00 AM

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tiny blaze thats what i miss from OBS

right-click source > filters > crop/pad

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 12:28 PM

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ohh cool

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im guessing i cant set the crop on the fly right? its a set and forget thing right?

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its ok if it is cujz most of the times its the same crop

meager yoke Apr 4, 2023, 3:38 PM

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tiny blaze im guessing i cant set the crop on the fly right? its a set and forget thing rig...

You can add, remove, and/or change it at any time, but you have to go back into that menu to do so.

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 3:40 PM

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oh ok, yeah no biggie then, i'll probably start using that then, thx :)

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btw any sugestions for more parts on SORRY?

meager yoke Apr 4, 2023, 3:46 PM

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Falcon-style aerodynamic landing legs?

lofty jacinth Apr 4, 2023, 3:46 PM

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meager yoke Falcon-style aerodynamic landing legs?

I 100% support that

obsidian hound Apr 4, 2023, 3:48 PM

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tiny blaze Planned parts: -MK2 RCS Block (short size, 4 rcs ports on top, 4 on the bottom, ...

OOOOH the VTOL engine would be soooo good, I was struggling making a half decent VTOL plane, since every engine consumes a LOT

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Would it be electric? Since VTOLs are usually fans

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Or monoprop?

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Or maybe just methalox tbh

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 3:53 PM

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obsidian hound OOOOH the VTOL engine would be soooo good, I was struggling making a half decent...

hmm maybe that will be next

obsidian hound Apr 4, 2023, 3:54 PM

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tiny blaze hmm maybe that will be next

Yeah no pressure, it seems super difficult to make lol

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Would it be somehow connected to RCS?

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 3:56 PM

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as in, when u have RCS on they turn on too? and behave as RCS ports?

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Hmmm

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what are we thinking? @lofty jacinth

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its wierd to do an all blue plume

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i dont have much to work with

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but raptor's plume is all blue so shrug

lofty jacinth Apr 4, 2023, 9:24 PM

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starting to look more realistic, it's reminding me a bit of mach diamonds but not quite yet

tiny blaze Apr 4, 2023, 9:24 PM

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yeah, i just gotta use a different mesh

lofty jacinth Apr 4, 2023, 9:26 PM

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well to be fair, in most of its length, the plume is purple-pink

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMcj58TbsyU

YouTube

space googlevesaire

SpaceX Starship Raptor 2 engine test

▶ Play video

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but yeah the very start of it is blue

tiny blaze Apr 7, 2023, 5:12 PM

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kinda working

verbal olive Apr 7, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Kindaaa

tiny blaze Apr 7, 2023, 5:22 PM

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the calcs are right, but i was working on Vector2s instead of 3s (since the engines all are on the same plane)

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Math ROCKS!

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!WORKEN

verbal olive Apr 7, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Math is pog

tiny blaze Apr 7, 2023, 5:35 PM

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Just realized that the Reiptor-12 is marked as SM+ but it is a 1.25m engine... BE-4 is suposed to be the SM+ lol

verbal olive Apr 7, 2023, 5:45 PM

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lmao

tiny blaze Apr 7, 2023, 6:24 PM

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We're onto something ngl

crude rover Apr 8, 2023, 2:35 PM

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@tiny blaze this is amazing!

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Refactoring the Node creation code, but the Engine Plate is GTG

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i'll probably add a 4 new engines just so the new update isnt so small

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after this update i'll work on #1094320887228006450 and after that probably #1092613573290754108

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inbetween i'll make a small update on #1093732018631749662 to remove the sparkles!

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and after these i'll work on FAR for KSP2

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Lux's Devlog

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The new engines will be
BE-4 counterpart, BE-4 vaccum, and Reiptor and Kheap-0 vaccum versions

lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 8:47 PM

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tiny blaze and after these i'll work on FAR for KSP2

omg it was a joke

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everythingfine

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not saying I don't want it though lmao

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 8:47 PM

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no cuz i actually miss FAR a lot so i want it in ksp 2 too shrug

lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 8:48 PM

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#🔴mod-dev message munley

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 8:48 PM

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also already been making the code for FAR 2 on my mind so its just a matter of putting it to ~~paper~~

lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 8:48 PM

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that didn't take too long

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munleyix

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 8:49 PM

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as i said, i already have too much projects, but as soon as i "complete" #1094320887228006450 and #1092613573290754108 i'll be free

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tho FAR2 will only start next week probably

lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 8:50 PM

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you can't convince me that you're not actually a super advanced AI from the future munley

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because this tempo is not human

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lmao

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 8:51 PM

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lmao its mostly a lot of nights awake till 4/5 am, i work very efficiently late night so shrug

keen prawn Apr 10, 2023, 8:58 PM

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Lack of sleep is a helluva drug

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 9:22 PM

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hmm what

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WHY TF

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WHEN I

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MOVE THE ENGINE Y OFFSET

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2 ENGINES GO FLYING?

lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 9:24 PM

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what the hell nooooooooo

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 9:25 PM

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the thing is, the nodes are in the right place

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thats the strangest part

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 10:02 PM

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i think i just implemented a way to move the whole assembly up and down

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by mistake

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lofty jacinth Apr 10, 2023, 10:03 PM

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lmao

tiny blaze Apr 10, 2023, 10:55 PM

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Its looking decent-ish

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Also cool little QoL

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tho i still need to fix a couple of errors that this brings

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 1:26 AM

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procedural engine cover is 99% done

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its usable already

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just gotta fix that, when u add new engines, they are not being set to the same stage....

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everything els,e including NREs and other exceptions are fixed

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also, stages only update when u pick the piece but thats most probably my fault

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 3:56 PM

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@lofty jacinth should BE-4 be gimballess?

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 3:57 PM

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pretty sure it needs a gimbal

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 3:57 PM

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i dont see any gimbal mechanism on the blueprints or pics

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 3:57 PM

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since it's supposed to be used on New Glenn and you can't really land rockets without steering

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and I imagine the Vulcan also needs steering on its first stage

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 3:58 PM

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hmm ok, i'll prob add a small gimbal (1-4º)

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 3:58 PM

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tiny blaze i dont see any gimbal mechanism on the blueprints or pics

the gimbal mechanism could be implemented on the rocket itself like it is the case with Raptor 2?

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 3:58 PM

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or for americans, 1-4 Bullets per Hamburgers

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true makes sense

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 4:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvvtkR4R5Q

YouTube

VideoFromSpace

Watch Blue Origin’s BE-4 engine gimble at full power during hotfire...

The BE-4 engine is the “most powerful liquefied natural gas fueled rocket engine ever developed,” according to Blue Origin. Watch it gimble at full power in these hotfire test views.

Credit: Space.com | footage courtesy: Blue Origin | edited by Steve Spaleta (https://twitter.com/stevespaleta)

▶ Play video

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you can see it in action here

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8 degrees apparently

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 4:04 PM

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ok so this bideo was a fucking huge help for the mach diamonds

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i know how to do them now

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but yeah its a full engine gimbal not just nozzle thx for that too!

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so basically for mach diamonds i just have to make the end falloff huge, to make the first 1/6th of the mesh glow, and the rest just shimmer

verbal olive Apr 11, 2023, 4:27 PM

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still not telling us how to add the engine plumes tho smh

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(for legal reasons THAT'S A JOKE)

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 4:43 PM

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i mean lmao

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u could add the ones i already have on my engines but those look like shit

verbal olive Apr 11, 2023, 4:46 PM

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That's why I said ~~for legal reasons~~ it's a joke

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 5:10 PM

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medium piping done

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now to small pressure matching pipes and wires

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and then the frame and we're done

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heh took me like 4h

verbal olive Apr 11, 2023, 5:11 PM

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it's amazing for 4h

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Lmao

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so

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Merlin has a 1:16 nozzle extension

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and Merlin Vacuum has a 1:165...

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so i'd have to make the nozzle 10x bigger

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merlin would become a 12.5m nozzle engine......................................................................

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maybe i'll make it only 5m tho

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 7:16 PM

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huh??

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it obviously can't be wider than the diameter of the rocket, and that's just over 3m

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

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The Merlin 1D engine was developed by SpaceX between 2011 and 2012, with first flight in 2013. The design goals for the new engine included increased reliability, improved performance, and improved manufacturability.[28] In 2011, performance goals for the engine were a vacuum thrust of 690 kN (155,000 lbf), a vacuum specific impulse (Isp) of 310 s (3.0 km/s), an expansion ratio of 16 (as opposed to the previous 14.5 of the Merlin 1C) and chamber pressure in the "sweet spot" of 9.7 MPa (1,410 psi). Merlin 1D was originally designed to throttle between 100% and 70% of maximal thrust; however, further refinements since 2013 now allow the engine to throttle to 40%.[29]

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A vacuum version of the Merlin 1D engine was developed for the Falcon 9 v1.1 and the Falcon Heavy second stage.[2] As of 2020, the thrust of the Merlin 1D Vacuum is 220,500 lbf (981 kN)[38] with a specific impulse of 348 seconds,[39] the highest specific impulse ever for a U.S. hydrocarbon rocket engine.[40] The increase is due to the greater expansion ratio afforded by operating in vacuum, now 165:1 using an updated nozzle extension

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Oh im dumb

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i read expansion, but its extension

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so it will be a 3.75m engine

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or 4.3m?

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since tis 3.35x bigger

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it rounds to 3.5x which is 4.3m size in ksp

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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you made the Merlin SL bigger than it is IRL?

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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not rlly

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i just made it fit the 0.9375 size

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these are them in unity

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with the sizes that they will be in game

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 7:19 PM

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lofty jacinth

definitely 3.75m in game then

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since the IRL one is 3.3

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 7:19 PM

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yeah makes sense

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Im rlly proud of my evolution on modelling engines

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i need to revisit Merlin

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i put it at 1025kn, lets see if i got the thrust right 1st time

verbal olive Apr 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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845kn sea-level 981kn vacuum according to wikipedia
can't find it on atomic rockets :/

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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KSP numbers tend to be a bit higher

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 9:07 PM

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Ok so since BE-7 is a thing, i'll also make it as the BE-4 vaccum counterpart

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wasnt gonna make a BE-4 counterpart cuz though that it didnt exist lmao

lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 9:12 PM

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couldyounot

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lofty jacinth Apr 11, 2023, 9:13 PM

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tiny blaze Ok so since BE-7 is a thing, i'll also make it as the BE-4 vaccum counterpart

BE-3U is the vacuum engine for New Glenn, BE-7 is a smaller engine meant for the National Team Moon lander

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 9:16 PM

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even simpler

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 9:17 PM

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lofty jacinth

lmao he spoke too soon, month later SpaceX gets drafted w the mission

verbal olive Apr 11, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Yknow I'm gonna learn so much about rockets engines and whatnot from all of you, and I'm not complaining

meager yoke Apr 11, 2023, 9:34 PM

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verbal olive Yknow I'm gonna learn so much about rockets engines and whatnot from all of you,...

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWzKfs3icbT6yhDTpO1GyDlz9AXdWSiGr

YouTube

Rocket Deep Dives

I love nothing more than doing deep dives into rockets, programs, engines and systems!

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 9:36 PM

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BE3U diameter?

fair wraith Apr 11, 2023, 11:04 PM

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Lux where do you get all this freetime

tiny blaze Apr 11, 2023, 11:17 PM

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i dont, thats the problem lmao

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i do this in my free time, which isnt much

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 12:49 AM

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by the way, just in case you'll find this helpful (of course you don't need to actually use it)

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this is the 5.625 Super Heavy, with a Merlin on a 0.625 tank and a (shielded) Raptor on a 0.9375 tank

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for reference

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 12:50 AM

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lmao ok wtf that look interesting

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i migh have to downsize Raptors for it to fit then maybe

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which im not that keen to doing

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i'd rather make 9m tanks

meager yoke Apr 12, 2023, 6:00 AM

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generally when making KSP versions of IRL parts, you want to round down on the size.

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and sometimes even go one step smaller than that.

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 12:12 PM

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Plan for today
3 Vaccum engines, Releasing SORRY 0.2.5

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Starting API for #1094320887228006450
Releasing #1087665539264020540 to the public (Just waiting for benjee to check the new version)

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:26 PM

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@lofty jacinth should i do a shroud on the Vaccum engines?

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u kinda can't use them more than 1 per stage anyways

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so no need to keep them compact on the top, they would just overlap

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tho this will be optional as soon as i get #1094320887228006450 done, since u'll be able to switch models

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:31 PM

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tbh I don't know much when it comes to specifically Raptor vacuum

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:31 PM

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i mean more in a gameplay thingie

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it would look wierd just an engine attached to the tank in a upperstage

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for the lifter stage there's the Engine plates and the Engine cover

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:32 PM

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for example in this photo there appears to be some form of shielding visible above the vacuum nozzles

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:33 PM

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oh wtf true

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:33 PM

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but generally I'd say just don't bother

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:33 PM

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heh yeah, i can always add it when i have #1094320887228006450

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:34 PM

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I wish we'd get a better (and updated) view inside the engine skirt of S24

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hopefully we'll get some good camera views from it during the test flight

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:37 PM

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lofty jacinth for example in this photo there appears to be *some* form of shielding visible a...

wait in thgis pic, the middlle ones are the vac?

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:38 PM

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nope, those are Raptor 2 center engines

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(aka the sea-level gimbaling version)

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:38 PM

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lmao i was like, NOZZLE WAY TOO SMALL FOR VAC

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:39 PM

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we have another photo of the SL engine shrouds:

why-is-there-an-apparent-shroud-around-s20s-raptors-v0-1hzidh17wko81.png

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they appear to be pretty much just metallic cylinders surrounding the engine's internals

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:39 PM

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yeah i plan on doing that

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just like the KSP1's Engine plate

lofty jacinth Apr 12, 2023, 1:40 PM

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#1085910413239140416 message

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pretty much like that i assume

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 1:40 PM

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but for some reason the KSP1 engine plates didnt allow for fairing if u had that config??

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 3:48 PM

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#1087665539264020540 is 90% done, just missing serialization and deserialization of Shader Settings, and aplying them, but Shader Inspector and editor is already done

tiny blaze Apr 12, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Change of plans, im almost finishing TUFX for KSP ( #1087665539264020540 )

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I'll then replace all my engines plumes with the stock shader's plumes for now, until #1092613573290754108 is done

tiny blaze Apr 13, 2023, 6:15 AM

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2 day break, but TUX is 99% done, just need to find a way to load the textures….

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@tepid stirrup do u know how could i get the game’s textures? AssetProvider.Get only has 1 resourceLocator

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Resources.Load doesnt seem to retrieve the texture… tried with and w:o extension

tiny blaze Apr 13, 2023, 6:21 AM

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tiny blaze <@160509516641861632> do u know how could i get the game’s textures? AssetProvid...

This 1 resource locator is SORRY’s caralog

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I rlly need to start bringin my pc to my gf house so that i can mod here too

tepid stirrup Apr 13, 2023, 11:12 AM

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tiny blaze <@160509516641861632> do u know how could i get the game’s textures? AssetProvid...

I funny what AssetProvider is, but you load most of the games assets via Addressables.LoadAssetAsync

tiny blaze Apr 15, 2023, 9:46 AM

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Back to work

tiny blaze Apr 15, 2023, 11:01 AM

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@tepid stirrup so....

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as you can see this goes right back to Addressables.LoadAssetAsync

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and still returns null...

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[Error : Unity Log] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.Texture2D' and key of 'engine_1v_methalox_swivel_d'.

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as you can see the key is probably that right?

tiny blaze Apr 15, 2023, 11:03 AM

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tiny blaze <@160509516641861632> so....

u have the key here

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ok so i think that since it is on the prefab, i need to address the prefab instead of the actual texture.................. WHAT A FUCKING PAIN IT IS BRING BACK GAME DATA

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seems to be that

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yup exactly that, damn this will be a pain in the ass to mod

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i'll deff add this to my API

tepid stirrup Apr 15, 2023, 12:47 PM

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the feels off

tiny blaze Apr 16, 2023, 10:52 PM

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about right munley

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:01 AM

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So, 9 Merlins, no payload, 1.6TWR? @lofty jacinth maybe a bit too high no?

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:06 AM

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Omfg that dry mass/wet mass ratio

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(not your fault, the game's really)

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What is the thrust on those engines?

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:07 AM

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rn 375 iirc

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they were 250, just did 1.5x to get that thrust

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Try putting on like 7t of payload, that should be about right?

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:08 AM

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yeah max LKO is 8tons

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:08 AM

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How much TWR with that?

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:08 AM

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heh its too high

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9 ton payload (short 2.5m tank) 1.567twr

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Falcon is 1.3 TWR right?

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:09 AM

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Yeah

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Maybe tune it for 1.3 at full payload

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:09 AM

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will do!

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the emission looking nice

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Ooh nice

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Got that healthy glow

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As they like to call it on streams

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munley

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:23 AM

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lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Omg that actually looks so good what

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:23 AM

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disregard the fact that the engine is not producing any thrust rn lmao

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i fucked up somewhere

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:23 AM

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lofty jacinth Omg that actually looks so good what

it does right! i wonder how it will look on a Starship's upper stage since this is a Raptor Vaccum Engine

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:24 AM

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Ohh what size tanks are those?

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:24 AM

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2.5m

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the nozzle is short of 2.5m in diameter

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i scaled the Raptor Engine's by 3x tho

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:24 AM

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It's like if SpaceX made a Falcon Raptor

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Which i think they were planning at some point actually

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:25 AM

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yeah lmao it fits

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:25 AM

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To switch F9 to methalox

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:25 AM

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i just imagine the work that they need to put just to make that

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:25 AM

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Before they scrapped that idea and just went for Starship

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:25 AM

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idk if its worth it

pastel edge Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 AM

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tiny blaze the emission looking nice

Why we don’t have glow in stock nooooooooo

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Looks really good

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 10:23 AM

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pastel edge Why we don’t have glow in stock <:nooooooooo:1084232259105718282>

we do tho!

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or you mean on modded parts?

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:37 PM

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@lofty jacinth Starship's configuration

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seems to fit nicely

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on a 5m

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:37 PM

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Looking good

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:37 PM

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lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:37 PM

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Nice

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Now make 33 fit for booster

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munley

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:38 PM

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1TWR

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i think they fit ngl

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let me try

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:38 PM

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tiny blaze 1TWR

That's good

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:39 PM

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just missing the skirt

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so booster 4 talk tanks

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starship 1 tall tank and 1 nose cone

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1.6TWR with 33 engines

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100t vehicle

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vvvvvvvvvvvvvv

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maybe i should lower the thrust and make it 3 tall tanks long no? @lofty jacinth

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it look way longer than suposed with 4 tanks on the booster

lofty jacinth Apr 17, 2023, 12:51 PM

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Well Starship is only like 1/2 tanks

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The rest is skirt and payload bay

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So it looks too short with just the nose cone

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But yeah even then the booster is probably too tall

pastel edge Apr 17, 2023, 12:56 PM

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tiny blaze we do tho!

Yeah my bad, my memory is failing me, I will appreciate details more next time

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 12:57 PM

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oh its ok dw <3

tiny blaze Apr 17, 2023, 1:31 PM

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welp forgot to add control to this

verbal olive Apr 17, 2023, 1:35 PM

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Lmao

tiny blaze Apr 18, 2023, 10:50 AM

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I wanna bring back ksp1’s part info when u open the parts manager

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So what should i do? Name, mass, thurst, what else?

verbal olive Apr 18, 2023, 11:30 AM

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capacity (resourcecapacity/capabilities), EC, gimbal, EC generation, control point, docking force and I think that's it?

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oh wait no - decoupler/seperator force too

tiny blaze Apr 22, 2023, 5:06 AM

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Cool beans

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now we have

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unlimited amount of cluster rings

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instead of just 3!

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and with rotation, position and height offset for each!

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it is all already working, i just need to add a UI for this

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but yeah! CUSTOMIZABILITY!!!!

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also new texture for the cover as you can see

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i should probably also add a Heatshield varian later

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but yeah this is something

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next version of SORRY probably at the end of sunday?

keen prawn Apr 22, 2023, 11:51 AM

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You need to add pad destruction upon launch before that

tiny blaze Apr 22, 2023, 11:51 AM

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I wonder if the pad already has a destroyed mesh

lofty jacinth Apr 22, 2023, 12:32 PM

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damn that's looking so good

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the fact that this mod already does stuff that was never done in KSP 1 is amazing

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 1:15 AM

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hmm @lofty jacinth

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it has the same engines

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probably less fuel tho

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 1:18 AM

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well damn

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by the way, have you seen Carnasa's newest video where he uses SORRY?

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 1:19 AM

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yup! the engines had way less thrust there

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also waterfall is a MUST lmao

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 1:19 AM

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yeah that was what I was about to mention, it's weird that Micro Engineer reported it as having TWR of 1.7

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and then it didn't even lift off

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 1:20 AM

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i think its cuz micro shows vaccum thrust only

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but yeah i've been guiding my balancing mostly from the game's TWR from the engineer's report

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 1:20 AM

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still, when you look at your screenshot, the TWR is 1.75 in vacuum and 1.66 in atmosphere

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so 1.7 and < 1 is still kinda weird

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 11:05 AM

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I've just noticed one thing - when you group parts by size in the OAB, the custom sizes have no label

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 11:05 AM

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Probably due to localization

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 11:06 AM

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lol

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 11:06 AM

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Actually 99% sure of that

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It was suposed to show the term but 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 1:18 PM

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SIZES!

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2.5m>3.75m>5m

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with kheap, reiptor, BE-4

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 1:28 PM

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nice!

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 1:50 PM

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just noticed this

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 1:52 PM

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oh fuck

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i might have missed some colliders

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that doenst affect gameplay or framerate

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unless that collider is colliding with something

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which for parts is almost never

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unless that part is in contact with the planet (aka you use it as a landing leg)

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 1:54 PM

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yeah it's not spammed or anything, it just gets logged once per each engine when it's instantiated

fair wraith Apr 23, 2023, 2:18 PM

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Lux do you know anything about creating a custom dropdown in a tab group

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in the oab?

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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wait wym?

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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fair wraith Lux do you know anything about creating a custom dropdown in a tab group

like those dropdowns like
Methalox
Methane?

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that will require the same patches i did for the label sizes, but i want to include that on LOABE's api too

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if its really urgent i can tell u how to do those patches

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else you can just wait and i'll add it to LOABE

fair wraith Apr 23, 2023, 2:28 PM

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tiny blaze like those dropdowns like Methalox Methane?

Yeah

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Ill wait for LOABE

opaque citrus Apr 23, 2023, 5:09 PM

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tiny blaze i think its cuz micro shows vaccum thrust only

No, it shows the 'Actual' TWR, which in Carnasa's case was sea level TWR

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 5:09 PM

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huh wtf

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why tf didnt it takeoff? since its 1.7twr

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i gotta take a deeper dive into that then

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btw i'd advise u to maybe change it to kn? instead of plain N

opaque citrus Apr 23, 2023, 5:10 PM

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don't know. I would have liked to see the craft file so I could test it out

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 5:11 PM

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or maybe, if > 0.1Kn show as Newtons, else show as KiloNewtons

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 5:11 PM

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opaque citrus don't know. I would have liked to see the craft file so I could test it out

exactly, i'll see if he still has it

opaque citrus Apr 23, 2023, 5:11 PM

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tiny blaze btw i'd advise u to maybe change it to kn? instead of plain N

yep, working on that

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:01 PM

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i might have an idea on why it didn't take off - I've had a similar bug with the towers

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usually happens when the first stage only has the engines and not the towers

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but the towers "deploy"

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your vessel will go up for a bit

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reaching some maximum speed

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like 6.2m/s

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then start going down

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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towers?

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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hmm yeah he only deployed after a while

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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the instability is probs from COM or gridfins having goofy physics

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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clamps*

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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lofty jacinth towers?

tower clamp thingys

lofty jacinth Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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oh ok

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:03 PM

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verbal olive but the towers "deploy"

think it's more common when you revert to launch and do some stuff with the staging (either before or after the revert, not sure)

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 6:04 PM

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about the engine covers, got them to work on save/load inside the OAB but not on flight...

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 6:24 PM

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i might remove the Top node configuration since it doesnt make that much sense

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:27 PM

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how will you snap/attach it without the top node-

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 6:28 PM

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top node configuration

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not the top node

verbal olive Apr 23, 2023, 6:29 PM

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ah

tiny blaze Apr 23, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Engine covers are done!

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just gotta make the textures for the other sizes and we're good!

outer badge Apr 24, 2023, 12:15 AM

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tiny blaze exactly, i'll see if he still has it

I can send it to you :)

tiny blaze Apr 24, 2023, 12:16 AM

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Please do! :D

tiny blaze Apr 24, 2023, 1:38 AM

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Lol

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didnt even want to, but made gridfins also deploy on the OAB

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let me see if it persist into flight, it should

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:( it doesnt

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it actually does but the animation doesnt get triggered

tiny blaze Apr 24, 2023, 2:03 AM

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@lofty jacinth #1094320887228006450 's variants being under a dropdown on the PAM?

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just like the clamshell depoys etc?

lofty jacinth Apr 24, 2023, 2:04 AM

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yeah that makes sense

tiny blaze Apr 24, 2023, 2:04 AM

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or better to be on a different window?

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oki

lofty jacinth Apr 24, 2023, 2:05 AM

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yeah I wouldn't put it in a different window

tiny blaze Apr 25, 2023, 1:37 AM

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2.5m terran looking good tho @lofty jacinth

lofty jacinth Apr 25, 2023, 1:37 AM

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ooh yeah

tiny blaze Apr 25, 2023, 1:38 AM

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also idk if i ever showed the 1.25m details up close

ripe crow Apr 25, 2023, 2:32 AM

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Sick

meager yoke Apr 25, 2023, 8:13 AM

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You've got some scalloping along the top edge that looks rather odd.

median canopy Apr 25, 2023, 8:17 AM

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Neutron style four way nose cone.

ocean trellis Apr 26, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Hows everything going so far?

tiny blaze Apr 26, 2023, 11:48 PM

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hey! well!

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so yeah i have the SORRY parts mod and im developing also a colonization mod

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any parts you feel like helping with?

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 12:34 AM

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starship i've made with sorry mod, it looks good? (i've made super heavy too)

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 12:38 AM

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ohhh that looks good

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can i see super heavy?

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 12:38 AM

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tiny blaze can i see super heavy?

yeah

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just wait a sec, my ksp is closed

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~~crashed my pc a bit, got a green screen of death here~~

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 12:45 AM

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oh damn xD

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you can show me other day when u play the game again too!

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 12:59 AM

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here its, fully stacked ~~falling~~ starship

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 1:00 AM

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OHHHHH IT LOOKS GOOD

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tilted just like the real one lmao

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 1:05 AM

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tryied to save sn32 (thats why its white huh)

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now its landed on the trees

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 1:08 AM

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polar jewel here its, fully stacked ~~falling~~ starship

now not tilted

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 1:26 AM

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love it so much!!

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i really need to add the flaps to the game!

polar jewel Apr 27, 2023, 2:25 AM

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tiny blaze i really need to add the flaps to the game!

i've loved the idea

rotund gyro Apr 27, 2023, 4:11 PM

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yo @tiny blaze i can help with some 3d modleling if you need it

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 4:25 PM

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rotund gyro yo <@135118540377161728> i can help with some 3d modleling if you need it

please do! I'm in need of some Falcon-like landing legs!

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no need totally like it btw!

rotund gyro Apr 27, 2023, 4:26 PM

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tiny blaze no need totally like it btw!

alr

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oh yeah if you want me to i can make some starship parts

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some MODULAR starship parts

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Oh i'd love it THE MODULARITYYY lmao

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please do!

rotund gyro Apr 27, 2023, 4:30 PM

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Its probably gonna resemble a biconic pod

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just

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round

rotund gyro Apr 27, 2023, 4:50 PM

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@tiny blaze what if the starship flaps were procedural lmao

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could you make them rotate like the ones on starship?

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 4:50 PM

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rotund gyro <@135118540377161728> what if the starship flaps were procedural lmao

they will be, dont bother w them if you dont want to :D

rotund gyro Apr 27, 2023, 4:51 PM

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aw siick

tiny blaze Apr 27, 2023, 4:51 PM

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i'm working on the engine plumes now but i have a lot in mind with the new part modules, prodecural engine skirt, procedural flaps, etcetc

rotund gyro Apr 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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@tiny blaze pre-texturing

tiny blaze Apr 29, 2023, 10:42 AM

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rotund gyro <@135118540377161728> pre-texturing

Ohohoh i like itt!!!

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Good job!

floral glacier Apr 29, 2023, 1:48 PM

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I hate to ask if it's already been asked but the engine sections you show, There anyway to get them or are they not yet released?

Love your Mod's!

tiny blaze Apr 29, 2023, 4:43 PM

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floral glacier I hate to ask if it's already been asked but the engine sections you show, There...

tbf i was trying to get the plumes prettier, but maybe its better to just release what i have since the plumes might take a couple days

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i'll add plumes that i already ahve to the new engines and release a new version!

median canopy Apr 29, 2023, 5:04 PM

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how do you take the models, attach a name to them, and then reference them with your scripts?

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curious how that works

floral glacier Apr 29, 2023, 5:11 PM

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I've about got all I can out of KSP2 without updated MODS and MOREEEE parts! IT does feel a little lackluster the ammount of parts included be we have wonderful souls like y ourself gracing us with parts! I mean not to rush you however the Engine Mount with custom rings etc will be awesome!

median canopy Apr 29, 2023, 5:12 PM

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im pretty happy with the parts we have. there's a lot you can do with what the vanilla game has given us

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the parts lux have added are epic as well

tiny blaze Apr 29, 2023, 6:22 PM

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median canopy how do you take the models, attach a name to them, and then reference them with ...

Addressables! referencing is a bit more complicated, you have to do Addressables.Load with the right key (usually partname.prefab)

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on my tutorial i show how to setup addressables

tiny blaze Apr 29, 2023, 6:22 PM

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floral glacier I've about got all I can out of KSP2 without updated MODS and MOREEEE parts! IT ...

yeah np! the Engine Mount is already done so im ok with releasing it (even tho maybe i should test it a bit more but i'll leave it to the players :P)

rotund gyro Apr 29, 2023, 6:42 PM

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please add the front part of the toyota prius to ksp 2 🥺

median canopy Apr 29, 2023, 6:58 PM

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tiny blaze Addressables! referencing is a bit more complicated, you have to do Addressables...

ah interesting. ill read up on that. thats pretty cool!

tiny blaze Apr 29, 2023, 7:06 PM

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rotund gyro please add the front part of the toyota prius to ksp 2 🥺

new nosecone? :O

rotund gyro Apr 29, 2023, 7:12 PM

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real

verbal olive Apr 30, 2023, 8:01 AM

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Very real fr

tiny blaze May 1, 2023, 8:10 PM

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update on the new version:
So i had some troubles with adding the plumes onto the new engines, so i kinda redid the whole plumes thing to be wayyy better now (see it as an #1092613573290754108 plume)... So i got them pretty.....

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also been busy the last 3 days so couldnt really work that much on this :( thus only now getting something

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They still need a bit of noise and brightness corrections

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@lofty jacinth thoughts?

lofty jacinth May 1, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Oh yeah that looks nice

tiny blaze May 7, 2023, 6:31 AM

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Next thing in dev: #1093732018631749662

Angle snap
Remove offset limit
Remove VAB Limit
Auto-level Vessels
Fix Symmetry bugs

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after that #1097243212898390096

Add support to texture2d Arrays
Add support to planet shaders

rotund gyro May 7, 2023, 6:43 AM

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idea i had for modularizing starshi

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p

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dunno if it would work

tiny blaze May 7, 2023, 6:43 AM

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you mean each blue suqre is a part?

rotund gyro May 7, 2023, 6:44 AM

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those are windows lol

tiny blaze May 7, 2023, 6:45 AM

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oh yeah no go ahead!

rotund gyro May 7, 2023, 6:45 AM

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each black outline marks a seperate part

tiny blaze May 7, 2023, 6:45 AM

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hmm okidoki!

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just make sure that the separation in the cone is one of the form factors if you can

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so like, maybe if the ship is 5m, the line in the cone be 3.75m?

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