Kimberly

[lethal tundra]

So if you're playing Kimberly well you're not supposed to need it right?

[delicate cave]

It's still left up for debate between high level Kims if she needs it or not

All I can tell you is she's at least worth investing in

Her lack of good tournament results made give push for her to get a big buff in the next balance patch in a few months

(she's also very fun to play regardless of her weaknesses, which is another motivator to consider picking up maining)

[karmic root]

How do you deal with this character.

Seriously I fought a kim who did sweep > throw > sweep > throw

[lethal tundra]

I told my preferred gameplan in #💪﹒general once and they all told me that if I ever tried Kim because she's all I like

[lethal tundra]

I decided to give her a try

Any good place to start?

Any guide or player to watch?

[delicate cave]

https://youtu.be/cGHHeQRhcSg

She also has some pretty good combo trials from what I remember

[lethal tundra]

Man I don't know how to play with Kimberly

I'm like a duck

[lethal tundra]

Nah this is absurd

[lethal tundra]

Man she's fun

After almost three hours the thing changes when you start getting the hang of it

I still got a lot to learn

Especially in neutral

[delicate cave]

Yeah she's one of the harder characters to get into since she has a lot of things you need to learn, but once you figure her out she feels much easier to play

[lethal tundra]

Best bomb ever
https://streamable.com/piqhi1

[delicate cave]

That was the most random read ever, unless he put a bomb there on accident

[lethal tundra]

It was me lol

Definitely by accident but it looked like a massive read lmao

[delicate cave]

Oh I thought you was the other guy, but rewatching it I see where I got wrong lmao

Yeah I throw out a bomb on accident sometimes, especially when im mashing light punch

[lethal tundra]

Yeah I'm still New Challenger with her. Just played a few casual matches

[lethal tundra]

I don't remember what I tried to do there but I sometimes get a bomb when I mash a crouching button after a run stop for example

[lethal tundra]

What I've found interesting is that even though you spend a lot of meter I didn't find myself in burnout too many times

[delicate cave]

Yeah that's how it was when I started out as Kim

Once you get to Diamond-ish rank you'll be spending meter like crazy lol

[lethal tundra]

Which is theoretically better after a blocked st.mk DRC?

St.hk or cr.hp into run stop?

[delicate cave]

I mainly go for cr.MK after DRC nowadays and been having better results from it since a lot of people don't block low

DRC cr.HP run-stop cr.mp is a good option as well since you'll still be plus during the run-stop

[lethal tundra]

Why doesn't this server show up in the menu?

Ok now it does after I sent the text

I was following so I don't know why disappeared

[hard badge]

My dhalsim chat does that sometimes

[ocean fiber]

When its inactive for a while it goes away

[lethal tundra]

When the time becomes the second challenger
https://streamable.com/ww1xfd

[cursive frigate]

ftr Meaty 2HP can be +3 at best on block. And most setups are aiming for +2/+3

[elder river]

i need noob support :<
When i try to do 236HP --> drive rush into target combo, i always drop my combo after the 2nd punch (medium), has anyone had the same and know what was being done wrong?

Sometimes i succeed, so it might just be a timing error, but i thought target combos were more lenient
Edit: I think performing the target slower makes it connect

[lethal tundra]

That's weird

That never happened to me

And I think I do it kinda fast

Maybe it's because of how you delay the drive rush?

@elder river

[elder river]

I'm not sure what's causing it, i try to do the 5LP 5MP 2HP 5HK one, and sometimes it just doesn't register the third hit, even tho it's on screen when i'm in training mod, maybe it's a mis-input and i'm not doing the correct combo

always works when i do it on ground, but off a drive rush i'm assuming i just need more practice

Now that i think about it, maybe it's the 5LP that i'm doing too fast, and it just does the smaller target (Medium heavy), which would make sense actually

[lethal tundra]

Yeah that could be it

You can DM me a video showing off the combo

To see what may be happening

[delicate cave]

I had a similar issue this when first learning it, I found to solve it you'd hold down on the MP of the combo instead of the HP and then let go of down once you get to the HK

Tell me if you need a video example, ill post one later tonight when I get home if you do

[elder river]

Thanks for the advices, i'll try this later and let you know

[elder river]

I think i'm being more consistent at it now, focusing on hitting the first jab and it seems to all connect, idk why when i do it fast the jab just disappear, thanks for the help!

[worn lodge]

anyone willing to teach a bronze player (looking to play semi-competetively in the future) how to learn kim

[lethal tundra]

It's so cool when you dodge a DI with a 214P or the jump back of the 236K

[elder river]

I'm silver and i use way too many tatsu's, and you have no idea how many DI's i have escaped by accidentally tatsu'ing to supposedly whiffpunish them

[lethal tundra]

What's the oki after level 3? Is there anything meaty or guaranteed?

[delicate cave]

You can microwalk st.MK for the meaty, I think st.HP works too but I just go for st.MK for more range

[lethal tundra]

Got it. Thanks!

[lethal tundra]

Ragequit Any% Speedrun
https://streamable.com/ona41h

[delicate cave]

you ever gonna try for ranked?

[lethal tundra]

Yeah I want to do it. It's just that I want to feel comfortable with the character before I do it, but I couldn't play that much lately so I've been postponing it

[delicate cave]

Yeah that's understanndable

[lethal tundra]

Why do you ask? @delicate cave

[delicate cave]

There's a lot of really good players who have 200-500 hours on casuals or battle hub but never try ranked, was simply curious on why

[lethal tundra]

If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably because people in general care too much about points/ranks and they don't want to be "labeled" as any rank. I don't care about it so I change from casuals to ranked and viceversa depending on how I'm feeling that mode that day. There are some days where I get tired of the people I find online so I change modes just to see if I find "better" people. That's why my ranking sessions with my characters are so slow. I think I could get to Master but my average rank is Diamond 2-3 if you count every character I have a rank with

[delicate cave]

Ah I don't really care about points and etc., I just simply like fighting people at my skill level, but yeah like I said before I understand where you're coming from

[lethal tundra]

Yeah that's the best way to play

Btw do you want to play some sets someday?

I could learn some things from our sessions

[delicate cave]

I got 2 tournies today, but sure ill ping you after im done

[lethal tundra]

No I didn't mean today

I can't play

I should be free this weekend

Good luck with those tourneys

[delicate cave]

Thanks, ill cya

[lethal tundra]

How well did the run go?

[delicate cave]

one went decently learned a lot, the 2nd one got postponed for later tonight

gonna take this to DMs so we dont get in trouble for off topic lol

[lethal tundra]

Sorry, my bad 😅

[lethal tundra]

Man, there are a lot of options with Kim
https://streamable.com/930ar7

[worthy bison]

Question,what are some pressure strings that are good on block ?

Having a hard time with people jumping over me during my strings

[lethal tundra]

MP~HP Drive Cancel cr.HP catches people mashing and jumping i think

You can also run cancel after cr.HP and still be plus, and if you hit cr.HP you can combo even after run cancel

[worthy bison]

Ok ill try it

[chilly rain]

Hey can I get an invite to the sf6 Kimberly server?

[young oriole]

After unexpectedly maining A.K.I. and getting her to Master, I have finally returned to the dojo with Kim. I've watched a copious amount of your videos and transcribed an insane amount of handwritten notes. Thank you for creating such excellent content. Now to work on execution and gameplay.

[young oriole]

https://youtu.be/DpAlmI03uPE?si=JwBhmeRwqVIrLzti

Been trying for hours to get the first set up to work. Seems inconsistent getting tatsu to keep them in the air long enough to trigger bomb. Anyone have tips? Is this too outdated?

[sage hatch]

Came across this footage on YouTube, can anyone identity why Kim is OD flashing despite not using meter, is this some kind of glitch or a move not mentioned in the patch notes: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxlAlEat8gpA2s4y-11HiN0xvFsbFpbmCR?si=SV0taH9bkNzCGaKb

[elder river]

I don't think she's flashing, looks like it's just the reflection of marisa's vfx's

[sage hatch]

Could be, good point 👍🏾

[steady jackal]

Uploaded a one-sitting session of me going from 1500 MR to 1600 MR with Kimberly if anyone wants to steal my routes 😂
Feel free to give me a like/follow on YT and Twitter! 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET9JeSUgtLU

[hallow egret]

I gave you a sub! I’ve also hit a wall and I’m not sure what I should be doing to get better

[steady jackal]

Ayyye I appreciate it! I'll be going to MaxMode later this month so I'll be training 🫡

[final cairn]

Anyone have good guides for beginner Kim stuff? Basic combos, mixups, etc.

[hallow egret]

I’ll see you there!

[young oriole]

Check YT. Tons of Kim guides. Follow Diaphone, Deznere, and Zykles. Really good Kim players.

[final cairn]

🫡

[hallow stratus]

good guide

dont bother til they give her buffs

character diff takes the fun out of her

[delicate cave]

she's plenty fun

[paper grotto]

Got to plat today I just think I gotta get used to her S.H.P’s to combo

[chilly rain]

can I get an invite to the SF6 Kimberly server?

[paper grotto]

Oh same

[fickle spade]

could anybody help me get better?

I play on Modern controls and Ps5

[paper grotto]

Do you have the same thing with me where you have to practice your auto medium hit into drive rush cuz thats the best I got for you other than that its just spacing and knowing ranges and stuff

[regal marten]

people asked for the kim discord does it even exist?

[delicate cave]

It exists but its against the rules to post character discords on the official discord

[regal marten]

oh 😢

[rare folio]

Did they ever buff our girl?

[spare sleet]

why isnt tatsu coming out in the air

[hard badge]

Probably cant neutral jump into it

[spare sleet]

the jump is inputed after the target combo

[hard badge]

What target combo

[spare sleet]

lp mp hp 236 pp

[hard badge]

236 pp doesnt link after that tc

[spare sleet]

er what its just the mp hp

its the two hit one that sepcial cancels

[hard badge]

Im hitting the tatsu fine

Have you tried pressing j.MP before it? Could make the timing easier

[slender solstice]

Anyone else think Kimberly should have better combo game with her Spray-paint bombs? Or am I just doing it wrong?

[paper grotto]

maybe

[tepid glen]

I only ever use spray cans for corner pressure and even with the corner I'm not preforming anything crazy

I just use it to convert of moves that usually don't allow for it, and if they block successfully its free plus frames for me

[thorny kernel]

it's all about the corner pressure for sure

the combos are solid, I think it's fair for the pressure you get on block

and they're some of her highest damage routes

[tepid glen]

also I know that without resources her conversions can look kind of weak

but corner carry is very easy in SF6 and even easier for kimberly imo

so I dont think it's the end of the world for her

[final plume]

Has anyone made a kimberly guide in written / typed format?

[hazy path]

gold 1 ryu looking for mu exp anytime. central us, dm if you wanna run some

[obsidian lake]

Some goofy ass confirm I’ve just realized I should’ve done before

[hard badge]

You can do 5HK before the target combo

[obsidian lake]

Oh cool

[tepid glen]

i usually like to do drive rush 5HK after 5MP instead of the target combo into ex 236P

cost one extra bar of drive but technically youre saving meter if youre gonna spend extra on ex spin kick anyways

[paper grotto]

. is that 45%?

Guess I need to learn that then

[spare sleet]

5hk doesnt combo into 236

[tepid glen]

5KH combos into 2HP

the drive rush version at least

[verbal ibex]

Hey. Any Kim players here that can teach me how to play the character? I wanna learn her.

[verbal frost]

Is Kim’s jump kick meant to be able to combo into anything because otherwise I don’t understand it’s existence

Leap kick? Hop kick?

[verbal frost]

It does if you aren’t a coward

[hard badge]

It can combo if you do DR/get a PC if i remember right
In corner you can use it after EX non cancelled run K and follow up with j.MP -> 236MP

[verbal frost]

K as in rider kick or k as in HK

[hard badge]

Hold up

[verbal frost]

Dr with it or Dr after. I’m asking how to confirm off stray hits from moves she can get stray hits off of

[hard badge]

Edited it

[hard badge]

Dr with it

[verbal frost]

Fuck

[hard badge]

A good use for it is after EX air grab

It juggles into f.HK and then into the combo mentioned

The follow up at least

[verbal frost]

Does her air grab have a vacuum effect? The wiki doesn’t show a grab boxes and I have no idea why I would ever use it except when I’m expecting a a2a whiff

Other than as a meterless combo ender from launch

[hard badge]

Good reads

Thats why youd use EX air grab

If you know when they like to jump

[verbal frost]

okay i think i have a jank ass funny combo but i've been unable to use the whole thing as a single combo yet and its totally not worth it
5HK, 214PP, J.HK, (5MK>214MK/Taget combo/5MP~HP>(any follow up))

[obsidian lake]

I should’ve did more on this (I did beat this jp afterwards)

[tepid glen]

Yeah its always safe to use 5HK as your combo starter

Maybe the only time it isn't smart is when you're very low on drive meter

[spare sleet]

wrong chat

mb

[hard badge]

What chat did you think you were in

[spare sleet]

Guile

[obsidian lake]

True, if I was it would’ve been a whole “fukkit I ball” kind of moment

[verbal frost]

is it not stubby and slow

or do you mean when you are in optimal kim range of breath smelling

[tepid glen]

has better range than the animation make you think

[young oriole]

Here's my Playlist of Kim videos. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxn5tjECx1ONy-q21LESF-lM8f4sRmEAF&si=tRiCH69dnziHzPYy

[young oriole]

Organized it from beginner to advanced.

[paper grotto]

Awesome

Videos I can look at on the side

[young oriole]

Here's a Quick Reference Kim Oki Sheet for when you're training and need options from various Knockdowns.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B_mMV1Qdra6RTT8V_qU0TzrQt1V7nBgw6cmzfCGyDLo/edit?usp=drivesdk

[summer canyon]

humbly requesting an add to the kim discord server, if one exists

[wary phoenix]

check dms since i dont think i am allowed to send one here

[royal dragon]

Should I be ending combos after lights with 236LP or 214MK

[tepid glen]

Both are fine

I think if I had to give a definitive answer, 214K is better

But sometimes not going for the knockdown is nice

Not as plus but you get to apply pressure quicker and sometimes that throws off the opponent

might not work against more experienced players but it works for me

[young oriole]

Any tips for memorizing the various Knockdowns and their options for Kim?

[arctic obsidian]

hey guys - which buttons do you practice hit confirming with?

[paper grotto]

medium standing kick id assume

[arctic obsidian]

makes sense

I have a bad habit of using MP too much

hit confirming with it feels impossible

[obsidian wind]

Is there a DR combo for her?

one for cash out

and one for corner carry

[tepid glen]

i used the same for both

5HK > 5MP > DR > 5HK > 2HP > DR > 5HK > 2HP > 236HP > 236LP

[arctic obsidian]

What is your guys go to stun combo?

[obsidian wind]

Heavy kick?

[tepid glen]

ya my fault, let me edit that

[obsidian wind]

You good

I'm just tryna get her basic combos down

so I can freestyle from there

[obsidian wind]

That's PC?

On PC that's 5052

dmg in total

into the level 3

normally that's 3000+ thousands

[tepid glen]

This is what I would usually do after a jump in or punish counter DI

If I wanted to dump all my meter and kill

As for what super I go for kinda depends if I got the super meter to spend and am willing to spend it

Here's a simpler hit confirm off 5MK in neutral that gives good corner carry and good knockdown

5MK > DR > 5KH > 2H > 236HP > forward jump > j214K

If you manage to bring them to the corner, and you most likely will, this is a guaranteed safe jump

[obsidian wind]

Ouuuu okay

tryna play sometime and help me get this down?

[tepid glen]

I won't be able to this morning

But ill probably be on later this afternoon

I'll @ you if I'm on

[marsh root]

Would it be possible to get OD 214K at the end?

[tepid glen]

only reason to use air OD 214K at the end is for comboing into lvl 2 and lvl 3

so if youre going for damage I would go for a full combo

[hard badge]

Does Kimberly still get the universal 2MK scaling nerf even though she cant cancel hers?

[tepid glen]

Seems like arc step won't automatically activate if you're holding forward now

yall gotta any guesses for why they made this change

[elder river]

I'm guessing they wanted to make Kim more "flexible", you have more control over what's happening

[distant cove]

are there any new changes for the patch

[elder river]

#📢﹒server-announcements message

the links are there

[rare folio]

Did our #1 babe get buffed?

[clear crescent]

https://studio.youtube.com/playlist/PLuxyJYTyUarHSx69vmaPvdA3Rsfh2Ln_Z/edit

Kimberly Buffs ^^

[delicate cave]

according to a lot of pro kims she got some pretty strong buffs

not enough to make her top tier, but maybe A or at least B+ tier now

[rare folio]

Thanks.

[rare folio]

That’s good enough for me

[sage hatch]

I agree, I’m really liking the buffs they gave her. The best thing is they are fun and creative buffs as well. 💪🏾

[arctic obsidian]

What’s some stuff you like the most?

[verbal frost]

None of the buffs were the ones I would have expected except for the elbow buff and the super 1 buffs. But they allow her to actually play neutral now instead of hoping your enemy just gives up at round start so you can lock them into an infinite corner

[arctic obsidian]

Which changes help her with neutral?

[verbal frost]

Reduced pushback on some of her buttons, she has a weirdly high amount for a character that wants to be smelling your breath, and meter gain that allows her to not just hoard for sa3

And light elbow is only jab punishable which is still bad but it’s something

[arctic obsidian]

This was my favorite change for sure

The extra damage here and there is nice too

[verbal frost]

It’s apparently safe on block at max range

[arctic obsidian]

Oh

Interesting

I really wish they made her slide a bit more plus

[verbal frost]

So you can use it to pressure but not consistently

[arctic obsidian]

Right

I can’t totally feel a difference to be honest

But akumas are free right now lol

Maybe meter build is better?

[slow trout]

is there a discord for kimberly tech?

[delicate cave]

Same, the buffs are feeling nice so far

[delicate cave]

Yeah it's also +1 on a burnt out opponent if you hit it from that range

[sage hatch]

Grounded OD tatsu being cancelllable into SA2, has opened up the way to some nice damage off of her lights for example:

1. Overhead > cr.LP > OD tatsu > SA2
2. Drive rush > cr.MK > cr.MK > st.LK > OD tatsu > SA2

Also 214H > OD nue twister gives her a solid mid screen bomb setup

The more subtle changes like more meter gain & less pushback have been great too. I still need to experiment with light vagabond edge.

[clear crescent]

Agreed, I think the buffs to Od tatsu are the best in her patch, you can now close out on a light confirm easier

And it feels good to do, its a fun route, thats also important imo

[arctic obsidian]

You can do overhead into cr.LP???

is that new?

must not be

the damage boost to SA2 is nice as well

I still think its best to rush for SA3 with the 10% damage boost and speed

I keep forgetting that I can OD izuna drop after heavy elbow

are there any good uses for less push back with her lk?

[delicate cave]

that's always been a thing, you can also tatsu after the cr.lp

[arctic obsidian]

that's crazy

total game changer

I do love me some cLP into tatsu

has anyone found a use for holding forward during sprint?

[lapis pike]

Not sure but I think it lets you keep running even if they neutral jump over you

I was reading the patch notes about l.elbow, does Capcom want me to throw that out in neutral instead of 5mk? idgi

[arctic obsidian]

Ohhhhhhh that’s interesting

[arctic obsidian]

Max range is safe

[cerulean peak]

I tried mixing in (non EX) Izuna drop after heavy vegabond into my game in the weeks leading up to the patch. I ran into issues where it would whiff in situations where it should have landed. I was hoping these issues would be fixed in the patch, but last night I was even having EX Izuna drop in some select times.

I think some of the issue is after DI going into HP xx Heavy Elbow and having waited a bit too long into the crumple, but it even happened in other situations. Is anybody having this issue?

[arctic obsidian]

dude I have issues with DI HP > Heavy Elbow ALL THE TIME

I don't know why I drop it so often after DI

[cerulean peak]

I assume if they've already started crumpling, then the hitboxes are just not going to line up, or maybe it's still a juggle counter issue if you wait too long.

If my memory is correct, last night I also whiffed Izuna drop after counter hit HP xx teleport, HP xx Heavy Elbow, Izuna Drop last night. I don't know why that whiffed.

I was just too salty about it. 😅 Not even our cherished buff is working as advertised. 😭

[arctic obsidian]

the move sometimes doesn't come out

think I need to be more intentional / hold the button longer after the screen freeze

I don't have any issues with the izuna personally - not sure what could be going on there

feel like it does a pretty nice job activating

[arctic obsidian]

Something I just noticed - when you do heavy elbow > OD izuna doing the hisen kick > jMP doesn't work

still works fine when you do the OD inzuna from a bomb setup

whats the best follow up from that then?

[tepid glen]

when you say heavy elbow are you talking about 236HP?

or do you just mean HP

[cerulean peak]

This is the principal situation I'm referencing.

[tepid glen]

pretty sure if you drive rush before heavy punch you can get the command grab

i dont remember why this is

but off wall splat i do this:
parry drive rush > 2HP > 236K > LK > forward jump > OD 236P > 6HK

[thorny kernel]

yeah it's because drive rushes make the juggle count better

DI wallsplats make every hit part of a juggle so you need to use moves with higher juggle potential

[tepid glen]

yeah i dont really understand juggle limit i just kinda of accept it

[thorny kernel]

It's very nebulous because of drive rush

[cerulean peak]

thanks. I would have been working on converting from DI wall splat quicker instead of taking the frames to drive rush.

[sand iris]

What are some kimberly strategies I'm stuck in iron 1

I have like no combos and I'm new to the game I just know her move list idk how to extend

And even though I'm putting in the right inputs her hidden variable doesn't like to work

I tested it in training and she either does her punch or her senpuyaku

[cerulean peak]

hidden variable is the spraycan teleport, right? I almost only use that when fishing for counter hit. So, like throw them on the ground, walk up like you're going to throw them again, but walk back and throw out a HPxx214HP, HK, MP->HP 236 HK.

If you're getting her tatsu(senpuyaku?) it makes me wonder if you're using Modern controls. I think her teleport is back+special on Modern.

[arctic obsidian]

yes

[arctic obsidian]

the tough thing about kim - is playign fast is kind of where she shines

use a lot of MK in neutral

you can DR into cMP > MP > HP > Sprint K (slide)

push them in to the corner

[sand iris]

I'm using classic

[arctic obsidian]

her cMP is great for confirms

[sand iris]

I use her mediums a lot

[sand iris]

What's dr

[arctic obsidian]

drive rush

have you done her combo trials?

its not the best, but it gives you some basics

OR watch a pro and take notes

pick a couple thing to practice and use

and then slowly add more stuff

[sand iris]

I got stuck on one of the advanced ones

[arctic obsidian]

play for 30 minutes, watch your replays for 30, watch pros for 30

that's fine you dont need them r/n

find basic stuff that knocks them down

[sand iris]

Oh yeah whenever I use it I do her lp-mp-hp-hk

[arctic obsidian]

cool yeah

that's a great auto combo to start

seriously watch a bunch of kim matches

it'll help you see what you need to be doing

find easy stuff you can do

[sand iris]

Any counters to akuma

I can't hit him when he does his dash

Idk if kimberly has anything

[thorny kernel]

you can hit him when he does his dash

you have to hit him

[sand iris]

He goes through my supers and punches tho

[thorny kernel]

no invincibility I'm afraid

[delicate cave]

Eh I start using it as a mix more now that I figure out moments the opponent want react to teleport once they're conditioned, but people are starting to find safejump routes with it

[thorny kernel]

It's just a movement tool that gives him access to his command throw

[delicate cave]

It goes pass supers at close range I think, but you can jab it

[thorny kernel]

Yo Phenom it's good to see you

big fan

It's just avoiding the supers because it's moving out of the way, right?

[delicate cave]

if you want we can do some sets real quick to see where you're at, but I cant do a long session atm

[delicate cave]

Wrong Phenom 😂

[thorny kernel]

oh lmao

master rank and being in all the big servers had me bugging

[delicate cave]

Thats why I changed it to Phen

[thorny kernel]

anyway I'm pretty sure it's just because of this

if you get crossed up and do the super at the wrong time it can whiff

this is true for any move

getting crossed up by teleport can confuse your character and make them whiff moves if done at the wrong time

[delicate cave]

Yeah I havent tested it yet, I havent even fought a Akuma as Kim yet lol, may run into some later tonight

[sand iris]

What's the best control for a newcomer classic or modern

[delicate cave]

I just know when I used Akuma on ranked yesterday, his teleport dash went through another Akuma's level 1, felt nice

[sand iris]

That'd be epic

[delicate cave]

k gimme a minute or 2, also ingame name?

[delicate cave]

Tbh either one is fine dependent on how you feel about the gameplay, but personally I would say in the long run to go for classic especially if you plan to play other fighting games in the future

[sand iris]

SaiyanGamer14

[delicate cave]

But overall it all comes down to preference

[cerulean peak]

There's some fun tricks you can pull with Modern, but for starters I don't think it's a good control scheme for Kimberly. I also think it's a poor scheme to learn the game on as you'll be hard pressed finding tutorials and other information to learn from in using it.

There's a bit of a donut hole with Modern. Great for casuals to pick up and enjoy the game. Fun for experts to abuse in specific cases. However all-in-all really bad to learn the game due to lack of options and lack of knowledge resources.

[delicate cave]

k sent an invite

[sand iris]

Accepted

[sand iris]

Ok so I did the right thing picking classic

[delicate cave]

Yeah that's another thing, modern tutorials is scarce since most guides are built around classic due to modern being a relatively new concept(not completely new, GBVS had easy inputs for years now), plus modern kim has the worst WR in master out of any other character

[delicate cave]

k one moment

@sand iris you get the invite?

[sand iris]

Where do I find it

[delicate cave]

fighting grounds->custom room->view invitations

[sand iris]

Joined

[delicate cave]

k imma take to this DM to not spam up the chat btw

[velvet swift]

Any cool new Kimberly tech

[lapis pike]

Been using overhead --> 2lp --> OD tatsu--> SA2

[arctic obsidian]

Also Heavy elbow > OD Izuna > sprint LK > OD tatsu / SA2 OR light elbow into SA3

Both are incredibly powerful midscreen or corner

Can just do can setup too

[cerulean peak]

Light Vegabond is now safe on block if it connects on last active frame. I'm a little skeptical on how useful that is at Master level, but for Platinum Scrubs like me it's something I plan on mixing in; especially on matchups I have a hard time getting out poked. Like Ed (after all the Ed players stop playing Akuma.)

[distant cove]

I'm on intermediate combo 7 and I'm struggling to meet the input requirements for the overdrive air grab

are there any tips to help me beter hit the timing

or should i just brute force it

[arctic obsidian]

Went 3-2 at CB today!

[thorny kernel]

Amazing! Great job

[arctic obsidian]

Thanks!!! It’s really hard to execute in that environment

[cerulean peak]

Recompleted the trial. Although I don't think it's necessary for this combo, I'd advise performing a "tiger knee" input for the EZ Izuna Drop. What that means is input the quarter circle forward on the ground (for this combo at the end of the throw animation) then hold up and tap two punch buttons as soon as you jump.

In numberpad notation that would be 2369MP+HP

Like I said, I don't think it's super important in this combo, but it's especially helpful when comboing into Izuna Drop after Heavy Vegabond (236HP, 2369MP+HP)

[arctic obsidian]

I found something last night that already existed but never see anyone use… might be good in very specific situations but you can do cMK > cHK on punish counter

It has nice poke range and might be good in burnout? Get the knockdown

Or when you’re in the corner and need to get out

[valid reef]

Is the combo trial Intermediate 2 even possible. I'm trying to do 3MK > 2LP > 236LP but Ryu blocks the second I hit 3MK

[thorny kernel]

you need to space yourself out

3MK is more advantageous on hit the further away you are

[valid reef]

ok thanks

[arctic obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVFnAg0wH_c&t=384s

dunno if ya'll saw this

[lapis pike]

I tend to use 2mp > 5hp > OD arc step > cmd grab > whatever you like

It's not guaranteed after arc step, but generally they'll be too mentally stunned by the PP to jump out or reversal

Half life combo off PP, it's pretty great. I've used it on a legend and gotten away with it 😆

[arctic obsidian]

Anyone having way more trouble with gief this season?

He used to be pretty manageable

[frank lantern]

Some useful links
These sources are trusted, but information might not be fully accurate or up to date.

• https://www.streetfighter.com/6/character/kimberly
• https://ultimateframedata.com/sf6/kimberly
• https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6/Kimberly

[west idol]

His drive chip is crazy

[ember ginkgo]

Yooo are There any Kimberly players who did advanced trial 1

Hello

[near helm]

Which YouTuber should I watch if I want to know how to play Kimberly?

[near helm]

I have

[ember ginkgo]

@near helm yoo

Cyclone

Been trying to get past advance ed 1 but that sprint secretion keep getting me off guard

[near helm]

Hold the medium kick

Is it the sprint slide?

Or the OD dash cancel?

For the OD dash cancel press any punch button as soon as the yellow glow comes out(basically immediately after you press both kick buttons. That type of timing)

You don't want to be slow with it. Then press the crouching medium punch almost immediately after the dash cancel

[ember ginkgo]

Is the Od sprint

[near helm]

Yeah just press the punch immediately after the double kicks.

Don't mash it

[ember ginkgo]

I'll show you a video where I'm doing it wrong

[silk crow]

hey, could anyone help me learn a simple combo for kimberly lv1 and for lv2? I use c.LP x3 > qf.LP xx lv3 and the default LP > MP > HP > HK combos but they're not always the best options

[slender pendant]

Man

[cerulean peak]

You mean wallsplat, forward+hk xx jump+hk, DI?

[slender pendant]

Yes

[cerulean peak]

You just counter DI. It's a reset not a combo.

[slender pendant]

I was mashing DI and still got wallsplat again

[cerulean peak]

mash harder? 🙃

You can also do an invincible reversal, if you have one.

[thorny kernel]

mashing isn't the most consistent way to get a move out

try timing it

[delicate cave]

You can also parry it

[karmic root]

Any sauce

[near helm]

What's Kimberly's option against fireballs?
Her teleport doesn't work against it it seems

[hard badge]

You can slide/sprint slide under them

[paper grotto]

Elbow drop can control yourself on jump VS fireballs sometimes you can get a whole punish bc DP range

[mint rain]

ok this is the sickest thing Ive seen in sf6 since a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG8VMoyyVp4

[warped nova]

Anyone with a link to a Kimberly discord pls dm me

[sage hatch]

Can I post tech clips there? One of the major downsides of this channel for me is that it’s taking ages for me to have clip sharing privileges.

[warped nova]

Yea

[sage hatch]

Nice, let me drop you a DM then. Thanks for the reply 👍🏾

[lone veldt]

Is her EX tornado kick the only wake up?

[cerulean peak]

Drive Reversal is the only wake up.

[lone veldt]

Thanks

[dusty tundra]

Spar anyone?

[mint bison]

how do you throw the bomb with kimberly on modern

[cerulean peak]

Down, Down + any of the 3 attack buttons.

[mint bison]

thank you my good sir

[ionic wasp]

does anyone have a max damage Kimberly route?

I managed to get 7050 with

22LPMP, PC 2HP > 236KK~LK, 236K~LK, 236KK~LK, 236KK~MK, 236LP > 236236P

I found one that does more on YouTube but it needs tk od Tatsu at the end

and those are hard for me on pad

rip

[lone veldt]

Can someone provide me some Kimberly low punch starter combos

[ionic wasp]

like light punch?

[lone veldt]

Yea

[ionic wasp]

2LK, 5LP, 5LK > 214HK/236LP
2LP, 2LP, 5LP, 5LK > 214HK/236LP
2LP, 5LP~MP~HP, 214MK / 22P Spraycan (corner only)

[lone veldt]

Thanks bro

[ionic wasp]

yeah that's just some basics

[cerulean peak]

I hate the Ed match-up and I'm sure Ed players hate the Kimberly match-up too. Have to play it so lame.

[lone veldt]

I have no problems

Now the Zangief matchup is what be killing me. Can’t pressure like I want to cuz he so strong, armor moves, etc

[dusty tundra]

Found OD TK tatsu crossup oki that works against crouching opponents

https://youtu.be/JqIS6lt69gE?si=G56j5AkMEhf1yWhj

[dusty tundra]

https://youtu.be/eThuWaRMoT8?si=7TMfSdi7HiWOH96E

[willow silo]

New to Kimberly! Any basics?

[lucid sparrow]

St. MK, Cr.MP are decent pokes. Try very early on not to get into the habit of sliding or teleporting all the time at long range.

Learn only 2 bomb set ups for the beginning, and focus more on getting used to her fake pressure mostly. The quicker you learn incorporating run-stop the better you'll get. Also her LK from her run is +1 on block. You can trick a lot of people with that.

[pseudo thorn]

Raw drive rush is your best friend

Crouching HP is a great anti air n can lead to left right mixups

Theres not many moments where cashing out level 3 is a bad idea unless you're all in on closing with it

[steady jackal]

Here is some general tips and Master Rank Kim play if anyone wants to learn something new!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTLji4J0Maw

[gaunt tide]

Make sure to keep up a steady diet of glue and crayons

[slow hawk]

Can i do the intermediate 6 Combo with out my enemy is jumping? I do the Combo on the ground. Cant do the bushin senpukyaku after sprint torso cleaver

[lost apex]

@ionic wasp hi i'm a New in sf6 you have Channel ofrece twitch or YT ?

[ionic wasp]

hey I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner, I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean

[lost apex]

I am new to playing SF6. I would like to know if you have a YouTube channel or profile on a social network to follow you and take into account Kimɓerly's matchups... Thank you very much, greetings from Argentina

[icy moon]

suggest some Oki options for kimberly

[ionic wasp]

I don't have one unfortunately, but that's actually not the worst idea so I might make one. Valmaster has a very good Kimberly guide on YouTube, maybe check that out

[cinder moth]

just found out about sprint->slide->SA3

who allowed this

[shy cloak]

what should a modern gief do to counter kimberly? the buttons gief has do not seem fast enough to poke her out of stuff

[paper grotto]

Kim has to get close to just check the drive rush?

[rancid wolf]

Sweep sometimes charged HP

[low parrot]

I hate this character

[slow plover]

I love this character.

[cerulean peak]

[dusty tundra]

I hate how much I love this character

What does she say after using the bomb on her level one?

[delicate cave]

She says "Take that!"
I tried to transcribe her supers on the Kimcord months back and heres what she says for all of them

[bright oyster]

does anyone have any good kimberly guides that hold up with the season 2 patch? im looking to get back into the character since i havent played her since season 1

[dusty tundra]

Not much has changed from S1 to S2 but I'm sure there are guides out there on YouTube.

[orchid oyster]

ok im dumb

after i DI a blocking opponent into a wall whats my follow up?

[thorny kernel]

I believe it’s 2HP - run HK - elbow

[fickle flame]

Is there a kimberly discord?

[dusty tundra]

After DI crumple you can go for a few different options. HP/2HP - HP elbow tatsu(j.hp safe jump)

[thorny kernel]

we weren't talking about DI crumple

we were talking about DI wallsplat

[delicate cave]

You can also 2HP->run HK->airgrab, EX airgrab works as well

[thorny kernel]

awesome

[sinful acorn]

Got a question

Does light spray can meaty after 5HK 2MP 236MK 5MK ?

Mid screen btw

[orchid oyster]

fought a modern kimberly and the combo looked cool

in theory can i do this combo as classic?

replay ID is AL8MHBD3Q

[thorny kernel]

there are no modern combos that you can't do on classic

in fact, it's vice versa; modern has less combo access than classic

can't watch rn but if nobody gets to it i'll watch later

[dusty tundra]

Do we run mirrors here?

[paper grotto]

@orchid oyster what combo the
HK, MP, DR, HK, MP, DR, HK, MP, HP, 236L, Lvl 3

[orchid oyster]

I did not know you can combo from HK to MP

that is big tbh

[orchid oyster]

fyg i just learned you can set the dummy for having it act like it got punish countered

which means drive impacts

[cinder moth]

it's a link

it gives you a pretty good bnb tbh, meaty st.HK, st.MP->HP, 236K (close) or 236K-MK

or ig it's not a bnb but

you can just do st.HK without the meaty

[dusty tundra]

St.hk is +7 st.mp starts up in 6.

[heavy hill]

y

[sinful acorn]

What's Kimberly best option to get a safe jump?

[dusty tundra]

https://youtu.be/JWfBziYfIhw?si=0EZPMpo-UGH5yCpe

Safe jump from HP elbow. Auto timing.

[thorny kernel]

^

very practical

[ionic wasp]

they reduced the scaling on the cans this patch, I'm gonna test to see how much damage is possible

[paper grotto]

Good luck on your test

[sinful acorn]

Thank you 😭😭😭 I been a Kimberly since the beta but I really didn't know any actual useful stuff with her

[thorny kernel]

Kimberly deserved more but the scaling change was a good start

will be fun to rly get some reward off the cool mixups

[delicate cave]

eh its a mini-patch so ill take it over nothing

characters like poor manon literally got nothing

[thorny kernel]

yeah

[dusty tundra]

Dropping kim for Terry 🤷

[ionic wasp]

i got 7295

im tryna get more

no ch

or no pc

that was just 7295 with level 3 buff

holup

7455 with punish counter

thats with run loop

im tryna test the other route

yeah she easily gets 7k with the double cans

[delicate cave]

I could only get 7.3k lol

[ionic wasp]

with level 3 install and off a counterhit

do

2 cans, counterhit 2hp > 236kk~lk, 236k~lk, 236kk~lk, 236kk~mk, 236lp > 236236p

[thorny kernel]

this is #1078606188045938697...

dont taunt us with damaging combo routes...

[sinful acorn]

My bad I just realized won't happen again tho 🗣️

[thorny kernel]

I won’t be so forgiving next time.

[ionic wasp]

but it deals MAD damage

and damage is fun

i play bison and slayer what do you expect from me

[thorny kernel]

nah i was talking to Ghst they posted a terry route

[ionic wasp]

oh LMFAO

[steady egret]

How You Should Day 1 A Character In Street Fighter 6: Kimberly to Master Ranked Guid https://youtu.be/uC_du9UWcPQ

[delicate cave]

Sorry for the extremely late response been a busy week, but you're right it does crazy damage

Took me a solid 30 minutes and numbing my hands to do it consistently, that 3rd upkick wouldnt connect for the longest lol

[ionic wasp]

needs to be frame perfect inputs that's the only thing lol

I tried a tk Tatsu route

but it does less damage

[delicate cave]

yeah I only do add in TK tatsu for fun lol, it used to be optimal in S1 but kim has easier routes nowadays

[ionic wasp]

it was optimal in S1 but now that route scales too hard

[delicate cave]

@ionic wasp Appearantly a 7.5k route got discovered today
https://x.com/totooru20/status/1840747944489681287

Totooru (@totooru20) on X

Nex max damage with kimberly #SF6_KIMBERLY

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 1:38 PM

[ionic wasp]

word?

damn I thought I cooked

oh I see

yeah I thought about doing that but wasn't sure cause of the meter cost or if it'd scale

all that extra work for 70 damage more

I don't know if it's worth it

I think you can get more damage than that

[delicate cave]

Same, I value consistency over damage

[delicate cave]

Actually testing it out I find it easier than the other route

The only hard part is adding TK tatsu at the end, because my PS5 controller hates doing TK tatsu lol

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Placements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRyT_KF34DY

[dusty tundra]

Yall really doing those 7k combos in real matches?

[delicate cave]

I wouldn't really do it unless I got the wall stun and it wouldn't hit 7k unless its a counterhit, but these combos are pretty easy to do if you're practicing them regularly

I could go for 2HP and hope they mash on wake-up for the counterhit, but I rather not risk it and just use mediums for meaties

[dusty tundra]

Oh kool kool. The requirements/resources needed are too much imo. Double cans, full drive, lvl3 buff n CA.

We should get a kim mirror sparring session. So we can learn from each other in battle.

[delicate cave]

If a Kimberly has a lvl 3 buff+CA then it's probably round 3 or the very end of round 2, 9/10 times this would be a game winning combo.

If you want to save your gauge you don't have to go for the cash out. You only lose 300 damage if you don't add in the OD TK tatsu, and you probably will lose even less if you add in the light vagabond.

As far as can usage goes that's an entire other debate. In concept yes losing both cans puts you in a less-than-ideal position if you're not winning the game with it, but it's heavily dependent on who you are fighting's gameplan is.

[delicate cave]

Sure I can run some later, you'll probably whoop my ass though lol

[dusty tundra]

Not just us but any other Kim's in here available. But I'll also be able to run some sets later although I'm currently building the blue print for my terry.

[delicate cave]

Same, been playing Terry like crazy lol, but right now im back on my Kim grind

[dusty tundra]

Let's run a few sets. I'm not that good though...with kim or terry.

[delicate cave]

Back and sure, just tell me when

[paper grotto]

Gonna get kim grind again gotta get to master with the home girl but first combo practice I got to diamond without any bomb set ups and at this point I need to learn em

[dusty tundra]

Add CFN: ZionSoljah. I'll be hopping on in a few.

[delicate cave]

PSN is down for everyone right now and I play on PS5 so we'll have to do it whenever their servers come back up, sorry

[dusty tundra]

Psn down?

[delicate cave]

Yep https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/1ftb7xr/playstation_network_is_offline/

[ionic wasp]

nah its more so just proof of concept cause i like to know cool combos

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--fDohzJ6iE

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CTtDErIb90

[orchid oyster]

is that combo even practical?

like it comes off in the corner and from her 2 HP?

[ionic wasp]

its a setup

so oftentimes you threaten with a throw after the can

right

so you can catch them teching

and that gives you the counterhit 2hp

obviously youd only use 1 can in a real game

and you wouldnt have level 3 buff

damage would be lower

but its good to know because it shows how you can take the game just off 3 interactions

interaction 1 combo to set up can

interaction 2 meaty throw can combo that sets up another

interaction 3 they want to tech and die for it

[ionic wasp]

@delicate caveI found another easier 7.5k route

only 14 less damage than the one in the video

2 cans
ch 2hp > 236kk~lk, can explosion, 236k~lk, dr~2hp > 236kk~dl.lk (delay it a few frames), dr~2hp > 236kk~lk, (delay a few frames) 236lp > 236236p

7514

easier for me to do than tk tatsu

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwPIRXRepto

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TggKAvq_UkQ

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Fto1OaBaQ

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Kimberly Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 1 | End https://youtu.be/f0w6Ol5L7ME

[steady egret]

Street Fighter 6 | Terry Day 1 to Master Ranked Guide | Day 4 | Part 1 https://youtu.be/D5hcyNeQ5go

[thorny kernel]

You should post that in #1275559770249494601 perhaps

[wanton tree]

is there a kimberly discord

[dusty tundra]

This is it.

[delicate cave]

Nah there is a Kimcord, but posting character discords is against the rules here

[paper grotto]

dm the link I need it xD

[granite arrow]

I am severely lacking Kimberly MU knowledge. Would appreciate if someone would do a few sets with me during my warmup phase in my streams.

If anyone is interested I'll be available tomorrow around 13:30 CEST (Swedish time). Feel free to DM me if you wish to.

My sponsor mate keeps eliminating me from tournaments with his damn Kim lol

[lucid drum]

Is kimb hard to play/learn

[slender bough]

I think so. She’s lacking a lot of the general tools that make neutral and exerting pressure way easier (no cancellable low, no invuln reversal, stubby normals, very negative on most specials). You have to be very solid on defense to prevent getting mauled and a lot of her offense is stymied by parry and dp.

That being said, extremely fun character and once you delve into it; I think she has the most offensive options in the game that are very skill expressive.

[thorny kernel]

it also defends on what level you're planning on playing at

at a low level she's not that hard

[slender bough]

That’s true. Mashing on kim isn’t as effective as others in the cast but can still be pretty fun

[delicate cave]

My bad, meant to send it but got caught up in something, but it seems like you found it lol

[paper grotto]

Yes sir 👍

[delicate cave]

Starting off I would argue she's one of the easier characters to play, but she has clear weaknesses(stubby normals in a neutral focused franchise, low damage, etc.). She has a lot of knowledge checks that people below Master don't know how to deal with, plus DR cr.MK into her BnBs is strong because of the run cancel 50/50. Plus Season 2 gave her an even easier plus powerful BnB so she's even easier to play right now.

But while easy to play she's hard to Master. To keep her offense you need to be creative with your mixups and a lot of her oki tech is hard to find since a lot of Kim guides are outdated. You won't have to worry about optimizing her till ironically Master, cause like I said no one knows how to block against her in lower ranks.

[hidden oriole]

W sticker

[spare sleet]

Hi everyone. I recently got Guile to masters and realized I had zero concept of how to play the game without a fireball so I decided to pick up Kimberly (Until Mai comes out next year). I was wondering if there is anything that I should immedately be aware of gameplay or combo wise.

I currently only have a level 2 and a level 3 combo as it seems level 1 does very poor damage

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/iZp5FAxnqtJv7BdQj?invite=cr-MSxRYjMsMjUyODIyNTUxLA

[thorny kernel]

Don’t recommend that level 2 combo

It works, but her level 2 does mediocre damage and her level 3 gives you a permanent damage buff for the rest of the round; unless it will kill, saving up for level 3 is normally the move

[spare sleet]

Yeah I always route for level 3 first

[thorny kernel]

also, from that launcher you can get REALLY good oki if you don’t go into level two; jumping and going straight into H tatsu asap gives you a midscreen or corner safejump with jumping heavy kick

That’s def something you should be aware of

Then I also recommend learning her corner can setups; do you know those?

[spare sleet]

yeah Icy showed me some yeasterday

[thorny kernel]

Awesome

[spare sleet]

I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate neutral without a fireball

so simple bnb routes are mainly what im looking for

[thorny kernel]

Totally

Id say bnb is

[spare sleet]

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/iZpiEAW03DW-SmkZB?invite=cr-MSxYdlgsMjUyODIyNTUxLA this is the main spray can set up i go for

+3 after

[thorny kernel]

2MP 5MP-hp-run mk
5MK 66 5hk 5HP 236hp j.214hk
2lk 2lp 214hk/236lp
any 236hp j.236pp run lk 236lp (midscreen or corner)

[thorny kernel]

This is the one for sure

Although they kind of have to be fully cornered to capitalize

Did you learn the throw combo after?

[spare sleet]

i usally just do like

jump throw

[thorny kernel]

The thing about that setup is if you’re not doing the full combo it ends up doing less damage than a normal throw

The full route is j.236pp 6HK-j.mp then an ender of your choice (medium elbow typically)

[thorny kernel]

Is this what you were looking for btw

[spare sleet]

Yeah glad to see that those are my main bnbs already

how do i get the j.mp

it wiffs

are you doing 6.hk and holding 4 8 or 6?

[thorny kernel]

Oh yeah sorry

You have to hold 6

[spare sleet]

You are fine this is already really helpful

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/iZpr79EiikVLCCecJ?invite=cr-MSwzQVMsMjUyODIyNTUxLA

This?

wait can I do tatsu after j.mp

[thorny kernel]

No ):

Not enough juggle

And yeah that’s the combo but you’d do that after throw

[spare sleet]

ah i saw that j.mp is technically special cancelable

[thorny kernel]

It would be like can-instant throw-instant air grab

[spare sleet]

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/iZpBo7w0qtB8Rc8rd?invite=cr-MSxQODgsMjUyODIyNTUxLA There we go I put the whole sequence together

obviously not everyoen is going to wake up DI

but

[thorny kernel]

Fire

Off a raw hit since you’re more plus you can get more sauce

You can do run-lk j.236pp then either run-lk 236lp or 6HK-2HK

This is applicable in stuns cause the optimal is can-2HP-236mp into that

[spare sleet]

so off of raw can hit with PC

do run-lk

[thorny kernel]

Off any raw can hit, no need for PC

The reason you have to adjust the route for the throw combo is cause you’re really not very plus

You have just enough time for airgrab and nothing else

[spare sleet]

also sometimes shk doesn tlink into shp

[thorny kernel]

Yeah you have to drive rush or punish counter

Normal hit go into target combo

[spare sleet]

ye

also her shp feels a little stubby but it might be that i've only ever really played Guile

[spare sleet]

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/j04T3W98bJt8cv06I?invite=cr-MSwwcDcsMjUyODIyNTUxLA

thoughts

[thorny kernel]

Good but the drive rush cancel ends up using all your meter and decreasing the overall damage

Kimberly has enough scaling as it is

If you want to drive rush there, do 5HK-5HP 236HP or something like that

Also you can do that with normal 236k-lk there instead of OD if you want to save meter, although I understand saving the meter for a bit of extra damage

[spare sleet]

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/j05mlswKgIoN1Bz5P?invite=cr-MSx2ZUQsMjUyODIyNTUxLA yeah I did this and I got like 14 extra damage

also you cant combo until super 3 from 236k-lk or at least I cant seem to get the cancel

oh wait

youc an

nvm

[thorny kernel]

5Hk kinda scales the combo to shit

Honestly recommend omitting the drive rush cancel entirely

And using 5HP instead of 5Hk after the teleport

[spare sleet]

2hp does more damage

so

https://medal.tv/games/street-fighter-6/clips/j05zwXhEGia8M1YUC?invite=cr-MSxBTVMsMjUyODIyNTUxLA ur right btw

two bars spent only 12 less damage

[thorny kernel]

Awesome

That’s a good and practical combo

[wet yoke]

whats the best way for kimberly to deal with cross-up jump ins.
I feel like if I DP or 2HP I still get wrecked

[delicate cave]

Kim doesn't have a DP

But perfect parry or cross-cut tatsu

[wet yoke]

whats a cross-cut tatsu?

[delicate cave]

same as cross-cut DP but Kim can do the same with her tatsu

its unreliable and I rather PP, but its an option

[hard badge]

A cross cut is when you do an anti air while theyre crossing you up and you correct the anti air to hit on that side

It can be achieved by just delaying the button after you do the motion

[vague trail]

Guys who's a better ninja Kimberly or Ibuki

[sinful acorn]

we a lil biased here Kimberly🗣️ ( ibuki solos her sadly 😭 )

[vague trail]

So Kimberly?

[delicate cave]

It depends one what you're asking? Gameplay-wise SF4 Ibuki>>>Kimberly>SFV Ibuki(not sure on SF3), lore-wise Ibuki is arguably the most skilled ninja in the franchise

[vague trail]

I like sf4 and 3 Ibuki the best

But like design and moves

[delicate cave]

Yeah design-wise I still like Kim the best, but Ibuki has some cool looking moves in SF4

[vague trail]

Yeah and sf3 where she comes from

[wet yoke]

sick, thank you

[hidden oriole]

Just hit platinum with kim

😮‍💨

[orchid oyster]

Can't wait to see these upcoming adjustments

[lucid sparrow]

What are people thoughts of the changes?

I think it's good to stop people mashing Cr. LP before 236 K

I'm curious as to how 6HK will be used by top players

Forward mk changes seems like no brainers. I never use it except for one meaty

[lapis pike]

I love the 3mk change and l.elbow is a little bit safer now which is nice

[daring tusk]

James Chen pointing out the implications of the Kim changes. https://fixupx.com/jchensor/status/1863578860727800151

[daring tusk]

Here's another video that goes over the changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QsU69X8mw8

[sinful acorn]

Kim Nation rise up 🗣️

WE SO BACK

[coarse stream]

https://x.com/chewing5gumz/status/1863684733080687009?s=46

Gadi (@chewing5gumz) on X

Quick chart for pokes, download for better res🔎 #Sf6_kimberly

Twitter · Dec 2, 2024, 8:40 PM

[lucid sparrow]

How do you see the 3mk affecting things besides a fireball counter? I haven't had time to test the new frame data

[lapis pike]

It's +1 on hit now no matter what distance it connects, so I'm using either crouching jab or throw after connecting, and I think it's plus even on block off drive rush

It's not as minus on block either so it's a lot safer to throw out and gives her a good ranged low option or as a whiff punish

Just toss it out in neutral sometimes and see how it goes, I've been using that and l.elbow as ranged pokes and it's going pretty well so far

[steady jackal]

Hey Kim Nation! Dropped a pretty in-depth YouTube video on Kim's changes with the patch. It'd mean the world to me if some of y'all check it out!

https://youtu.be/C5z1CU-kY5U?si=_nRdqBUXbiP4s8Wn

[vague trail]

LETS GOO

[daring tusk]

https://fixvx.com/chewing5gumz/status/1864383028555907187
https://fixvx.com/chewing5gumz/status/1864469934727741813

[hidden oriole]

W

[obtuse violet]

Do you guys recommend any players or place I can get the most optimal combos? Like whats the most optimal punsih counter and what not

[vague trail]

W

[kindred quarry]

brand new to Kimberly, about to hop in character guide right now and learn her, does anybody have any small tips that can go a long way for me? it would be appreciated

[feral rock]

Hi, I tried the following combo: Bushin Tiger Fangs --> EX run overhead --> super art but it only works with level 3 super and level 2 super. does anyone know if level 1 super can also be used in this combo or nah? I cant seem to get it to work in practice mode

[sinful acorn]

Hi, and no it doesn't ( I believe) I've tried and I don't think it does

[sinful acorn]

Btw HOW TF YOU GETTIN LVL 3 OFF THAT 😭🙏🏻

[feral rock]

Idk but it worked for me, the opponent bounces from the ex run overhead and allows for level 2 and 3 from what I’ve seen

[young oriole]

KIMBERLY GUIDE LINKS
!!! Note: I need to test her Oki as she received buffs in the December 2024 patch.

OFFICIAL FRAME DATA
https://www.streetfighter.com/6/character/kimberly/frame

FAT APP DATA
https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/framedata/SF6/Kimberly

GILLSTOLEMYRIDE's OKI GUIDE
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Eh5ERv7IPMVlMW6N0d3I_TmJMoB5zRk1EFf4w6tR6GE/htmlview

KIMBERLY OKI QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lb9utpSjAl3ulvilKAmypkBEAGzXtmsyaqCmiS_hME4/edit?usp=drivesdk

CAZ's COMBO GUIDE
https://caznomis.notion.site/d658b34f1873452bac1f4322fb99dcd2?v=6b096db6f84a418a9cabb7025b3117cb

STRATEGY
https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6/Kimberly/Strategy

SEASON 2 NOTES
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2024/may/21/sf6-season-2-patch-notes/

DECEMBER 2024 NOTES
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2024/dec/01/street-fighter-patch-notes-december/

[thorny kernel]

Ping an admin lets get this pinned

[young oriole]

I messaged one. We'll see what happens

[young oriole]

Fixed ALL guides for everyone to access

[cinder tapir]

I don't understand why u can't punish that jump elbow from kim it's minus 3 or 2 when u block high...

[spare sleet]

-4 is punishable

[crystal wasp]

Parry is an option

[rapid meadow]

She’s like the Miles Morales of SF6.

[spare sleet]

That’s gotta be racist

[cerulean peak]

Her SA2 is Ultimate Spider.

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-spider-ultimate-attack-spiderman-ryu-gif-5254178

[rapid meadow]

You see what I mean lol 😂

[vague trail]

literally

[cerulean peak]

Also worth mentioning, Kimberly's motivation is driven by avenging her uncle and is opposing sinister corporations. That's just generally Spiderman. Peter Parker or Miles Morales.

Wish there was a Spider Woman costume for Kimberly. The hair would be amazing.

[rapid meadow]

If there’s ever a MVC5, Kimberly should be a part of that roster

[fickle forge]

I need to learn anti Kimberly strats. Anyone down to play a few sets?

DM if you want to play. I need the practice

I'm a diamond 1 Chun Li in case it matters

[fickle forge]

This place is dead 💀

[fickle forge]

Deder than ded 💀

[fickle forge]

DEEEEEDDDDDDD Someone say something!

[thorny kernel]

No

[spare sleet]

If you keep spamming I'm gonna report you

[sinful acorn]

Guys

Her air grab ex normal combo into Run > kick > spray can into heavy kick meaty it's real?

Cuz it so inconsistent for me

I just want to know

[cerulean peak]

It kinda depends on what you mean by "Run > kick". I'm guessing your mean her Run xx LK I don't go for that if I'm going to mix up. I only do that when converting into super.

Instead as far as I'm aware the standard mix is to do Run xx MK (which will whiff), but then put you in place for a whole manner of mixups. Primarily going for either MP xx Medium Vegabond or throw after placing medium cans on the ground.

I also like tricking them up by placing light cans and doing instant air EX Tatsu, or not doing the run mk whiff and throwing medium cans then drive rush into overhead.

It's not meter efficient, but deals suitable "mental damage". 😝

[sinful acorn]

Thanks

[fickle forge]

Any kimberly wanna go?

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/coward-cowards-school-gif-15952436

[topaz oriole]

😂

[fickle flame]

anyone can dm me the link to the kimberly discord

[tardy goblet]

How the fuck do yall play this shit character?

I LOVE HAVING NO DAMAGE

[tardy goblet]

i think the issue is i was thinking too hard

i always held kim in high regards cause i thought she was really deep and mechanically challenging

but shes really not

she just has like 5000 setups

[sinful acorn]

We just mix up till the game ends ( gotta put extra more work than other characters)

[orchid oyster]

are there any videos to showcase some of kimberly's new bnbs

preferably that goes from easy to hard

[orchid oyster]

probably better combos but i do like
j HP, 5HP, DRC, 5HK, 2HP, 236 HP, jc 236 P

[cerulean peak]

I don't ever think about starting combos from a jump attack anymore. Even on a full punish scenario. With Kimberly and with Punish Counter frames you can HP xx Teleport crHP. Or if you want to spend meter HP xx EX Teleport HK, crHP. From there go from Vegabond to Izuna or some other combo the situation may call for.

Going for jump attacks really only make sense if you conditioned your opponent to not DP because of elbow drops. Even then you can expect them to block and should be thinking about frame traps, shimmying, etc. Not a max damage combo.

[wraith fjord]

what's an optimal route to get to level 3 starting from drive rush -> 4hk?

trying to do this with 4 bars of drive guage or less

Starting with four bars of drive gauge, I would like to perform a the highest damage combo whose first hit is drive rush 4hk

it's about 2330 damage (not including level 3 for an additional 2k at the end)

[ionic wasp]

so drive rush starter + 1 drive rush, or drive rush starter + drive cancel?

[wraith fjord]

Starting with four bars of drive gauge, perform the highest damage combo possible whose first move is drive rush 4hk.

[ionic wasp]

i gotchu dw

im labbing rn

[wraith fjord]

Actually also stipulate that this is a corner combo

❤️

[ionic wasp]

well yeah i figured

i think what you found is optimal without any fucked up microwalks lol

real way to get more damage is reset into run command grab

cause they never jump

can also squeeze out 20 more damage by cheating

mkvd damnit

cause this is technically with 4 bars

[wraith fjord]

not the instant tatsu, lol 😭

i throw in the command grab as a mixup sometimes. once they've jumped once i basically play strike/throw/shimmy with them - i just wait for the jump and do drive rush 2hp

Is it possible to slip in a light vagabond edge after tatsu?

[cerulean gull]

hey i'm plat 5 stuck RN and was wondering if anyone has any tips for neutral play & maybe some safe jump set-ups. i was trying to look that up online but didnt find a lot of helpful stuff.

[ionic wasp]

nope

no juggle potential for it

[ionic wasp]

Kim has shockingly good whiff punishment with 5hp and 5mk, her drive rush is also quite fast so you can mix that in too with drive rush jab for example

her walk speed is good to bait whiffs

in neutral tho the main pokes I use are 5lk, 2mp, 5mk, and 5hp

[cerulean gull]

i usually use 5hp as my main combo starter but i felt like it lacks the range to reliably whiff punish

[ionic wasp]

her buttons are shorter than most

but it is good for whiff punishing

what you can look to do is set up spacing traps

people in plat like to mash

so find what their comfort button is

and set up the according spacing trap for an auto whiff punish lol

learn the range of her button by using the UI elements to "line it up"

ykwim?

find the range where their buttons will whiff and you can still hit them back

you can use the drive gauges on the top of the screen as a sort of ruler

and space yourself accordingly

[cerulean gull]

aight imma try that out Thanks

[ionic wasp]

very basic run down

but that's kinda how I look to play neutral

also in terms of safe jumps I don't really use them but after heavy vagabond, instant j.mp > j.214k should work and set up a safe jump

[cerulean gull]

sorry j.mp?

[ionic wasp]

jump medium punch

I don't remember off the top of my head but I saw punk doing that when he played Kim on yt

[cerulean gull]

Ok yeah

i like to got after heavy vagabond into either j.mp > OD j.214k > LVL2
Or i do OD j.236p > run lk > 236lp do you by chance know if i can optimize that?

on the second one i also like to go either LVL1 or LVL3 instead of light vagabond

[ionic wasp]

you can cancel the 236lp into sa3

and I only use supers to close out rounds with Kim since if I'm ever in burnout from a misplay earlier in the round I save the meter for that too

she needs level 1 as a reversal lol

[ionic wasp]

this is pretty optimal as far as things go

you can do 6hk~9~j.hp for a safe jump

j.hk for a DI reset too

[cerulean gull]

got 'll tray that

Thanks you've been a big help

[ionic wasp]

just sharing what basic stuff I know lol

I'm still learning kim she satisfies my lab demon tendencies

[cerulean gull]

XD

[tame anchor]

yo is there a kimberly discord where i can find a up to date beginners guide?

[ionic wasp]

just got my Kim to master in an hour and a half

things I learned on the way

how to react to DI, again

a lot of cool mixups

how to pressure in the corner better

improved my whiff punishes

[ruby solar]

What are Kimberly's abusable things against burned out opponents? Like block strings that end plus on block. I can't seem to find much that has tight enough strings to beat jabs.

[ionic wasp]

2lp, 5mp > run overhead

trades with jabs I believe

but that knocks them down

and if they hold it you're +1

so you can loop it pretty well

the supercombo strategy page has a bunch of stuff for abusing burnout with kim

[ruby solar]

Thanks!

[ruby solar]

5mp > run overhead can be jabbed, but if you just let the run hit normally then jab will get stuffed, so it's still quite risky for them. One other thing I found is that hisen kick is +1, and most people can't react to it well so it'll get you close to them for free and be +1

[ionic wasp]

i meant ex run overhead, my b

you could even do ex run lk

[cerulean peak]

It can be jabbed, but not on reaction, so if they start jabbing after your pokes you can abuse that. I typically do 5mk xx Run for pokes and if I get jabbed I'll either just do 5mk [wait] 5mk run or recently I've been playing around with 5mk [wait] light vegabond.

The biggest threat honestly is DI though. Gotta be ready to reverse a random DI more than someone trying to jab your "poke runs". If they're smart enough to jab check you, they're probably smart enough to know it's not a great solution and they'll just let you poke into run all day for free.

[clear crescent]

https://youtu.be/OepGnXGuFMg

made an 18 minute advanced guide for her 🙂

[wraith fjord]

kimberly has imo the best drive rush low in the game, as it combos on hit into her heavy bnb, and on block is +5. she also has very good strike/throw with run stop.
in general, at the level of diamond and even like sub 1700 MR, just be aggressive and bring the fight to your opponent. of course, don't be reckless - but definitely play actively.

if you message me privately i'll send you some clips from when i was platinum and improving quickly that are fairly illustrative

6hk -> 9hk is also kind of diabolical; it puts your opponent in a state where they land on their feet, as opposed to hitting the ground, and it means you can rush at them with basically any mixup you want. i find drive rush overhead/low to be very effective here, personally. i've gotten a lot of mileage out of it.

[ionic wasp]

I was pinged?

@wraith fjord did you reply to the wrong message or sumn

if so all good

[wraith fjord]

yes

[ionic wasp]

checks out

[ionic wasp]

after OD Air grab doing 6hk > 9hk you can do DR overhead for same side, and empty drive rush, 2lk/2mk for side switch mix

in the corner I usually just restand them into a DI reset

something to consider rather than just overhead low mix

[wraith fjord]

after restanding them i usually go for a drive rush mix up, where i can strike/throw, and the strike part of the mixup can be overhead/low. usually in the corner if i land this i just cash out to level 3

[ionic wasp]

this is left/right on top of overhead low is what I was trying to convey

in the corner I'm always going for the bomb setup tho

[wraith fjord]

i like her bomb setups. just another option.

[ionic wasp]

oh for sure

I haven't been playing much Kim lately

will definitely get back into it tho

[wraith fjord]

usually i go for bomb setups a little more if i'm getting into the corner from a string that's not her heavy bnb

like if i slide into the corner i'll throw a bomb, most likely

[ionic wasp]

same

sometimes I use her bombs to force burnout

cause she can do that when they're at 3-4 drive gauge

[wraith fjord]

one of my go-tos in the corner is just mp -> hp -> light vagabond with a bomb on the ground. very effective

but it's probably not optimal

there is also alternatively mp hp -> run stop

[pearl bridge]

Do any high diamond-low master kimberlies wanna do a first to 5? I suck complete ass against kimberly and wanna get better against her

[wraith fjord]

hey, nadir. i'm technically only diamond 1 rn, but i usually do v well against master opponents in battle hub. both my practice partners are 1800+ MR (one manon/lily/juri and one guile). hmu if you ever wanna do friendlies

[pearl bridge]

Do u wanna hit up a f25 in line an hour?

[wraith fjord]

I'm working until 5 but I'll be free tn if you wanna play later

[pearl bridge]

What timezone?

[wraith fjord]

Central

I'll be home soon

Like 30 minutes

[wraith fjord]

i'm home now if you wanna run it

[pearl bridge]

Gimme like 20 minites

[wraith fjord]

@ionic wasp do you know if the following string is possible as a side switch? (kimberly on right side in this example)

DI (punish counter) -> 236p (frame kill) 2hp (gets opponent character into airborne state) -> run stop -> 2369pp

i've whiffed this like three times now, but i know that the same string ending in heavy tatsu works

[ionic wasp]

off a punish counter DI do this to side switch

neutral jump heavy kick

dr~2hp > 236k~p, 214hk

[wraith fjord]

yeah, that's basically the string i'm trying to modify

though instead of jump hk i'm starting with just 2hp

i want to know if it's possible to insert 239pp and get an air grab combo instead of tatsu

[ionic wasp]

you need to get under them to side switch, idk if it has the juggle potential to od Air grab but it should

[wraith fjord]

actually it does seem to work when i include j.hk and drive rush 2hp

[ionic wasp]

you can do it off an anti air DR~2HP like in the combo trials

yeah lol

[wraith fjord]

ik about getting under them - that's what the teleport frame kill is for

if you wait for the opponent character to drop to their knees you get the airborne state

[ionic wasp]

you can just forward dash for this btw

[wraith fjord]

but every time i pop the air grab it just whiffs

[ionic wasp]

so you need to drive rush to have enough juggle potential

otherwise the Air grab whiffs

[wraith fjord]

lame

[ionic wasp]

the drive rush makes the normal not reduce the juggle potential

[wraith fjord]

thanks

[ionic wasp]

I gotchu

[wraith fjord]

@ionic wasp help me lab something please?
i want to punish DPs with the following string:

(while they're still falling back down) hp -> 236kk ~ lk -> micro walk 2369pp -> 236kk ~ lk -> 2149kk -> 236lp -> level 3 (or just level 3 if it's not possible to land the vagabond edge here.)

i'm having absolutely no luck getting the instant air tatsu

[ionic wasp]

which DP do you want to punish cause I know there are some character specific things

[wraith fjord]

i'm practicing on ryu rn

[ionic wasp]

ok one sec

I'll lab for ryu

[wraith fjord]

i think the only characters that complicate this though are like

deejay?

idk who else

oh ik lily is weird

but for most characters this should work

[ionic wasp]

ken, cammy, luke

their dps push them further from the corner

ryus has little lateral movement

[wraith fjord]

i'm working on this rn from center anyway

in the corner i imagine you probably could even swap out hp with 2hp for a little more damage

[ionic wasp]

I think this might be a corner only thing cause tk air Tatsu sends them pretty far no?

[wraith fjord]

i wouldn't know, i literally have only ever landed it like once, lol

it's such a hard input for me

[ionic wasp]

ah ok

it's not that bad

[wraith fjord]

idk what to say, i can't get it

[ionic wasp]

buffer the qcb during the last frames of recovery of the last move, then jump forward and press kicks

also I'm on leverless which is easier to execute on tbh

[wraith fjord]

i'm on an xbox controller

i'm mostly interested in if this string even works

if so, how much damage does it do?

if it works then i'll figure it out one way or another, but rn i really just want confirmation that it's even possible

[ionic wasp]

alr I've got the game open

time to lab

@wraith fjord it works but you can't get light vagabond it seems

[wraith fjord]

how much damage?

would light vagabond work in the corner, or is it like a juggle count thing?

[ionic wasp]

5909 no CA

[ionic wasp]

juggle thing

give me a second

I'm gonna try something

okay yeah that's more damage

cool

[wraith fjord]

what'd you do?

[ionic wasp]

no your route is more

I was comparing it to the normal cashout

[wraith fjord]

record it pls?

thank you so much btw

[ionic wasp]

one sec

I can't land it again

the air Tatsu is really hard to connect tbb

tbh*

[wraith fjord]

o how much better kimberly would be if instant air tatsu were an easy input

(probably not that much better but i can dream)

[ionic wasp]

it's not used much