diablo-4

[glad canopy]

diablo 4 exists?

[heady laurel]

Not yet... Still no release date yet

[granite badge]

we could still get a blizzconline end of this year

in which case a d4 release date could be announced

and of course, The Game Awards is always an option

[wild canyon]

That's not going to happen. They're hoping to have a BlizzCon 2023.

[granite badge]

the blizzcon site only says that there won't be a february 2022 blizzconline, right?

https://blizzcon.com/en-us/news/23738004

has there been some other official update cancelling all blizzcon activities for 2022? if so, it's not on the blizzcon website as the above article is the most recent one

[wild canyon]

Educated guess.

[granite badge]

right. i'll operate on official word even still

it's gonna be interesting to see if any changes happen now that XGS owns essentially 3 conventions/expos/conferences:

quakecon, blizzcon, and the bethesda/microsoft conference including Xbox FanFest

any others i'm forgetting?

will those all continue separately, or could there be consolidation?

with blizzard retiring WCS and Hots, that already feels like a significant downsizing of things

Maybe Immortal could end up functioning as a slingshot for D4 though. That could help any competitive pvp plans

[granite badge]

feels weird to own d4 merch from 4 years before release

[pale merlin]

Feels bad, when D4 will be a bad game.

[regal pond]

Based on?

We haven’t seen much gameplay yet, so forming an opinion this early feels extremely ignorant

[granite badge]

felt fine when i played it 🤷🏽‍♀️

but who knows i guess

i don't think they'll do with d4 what they did with immortal at last minute, but i don't see any promises of that

[regal pond]

I mean - I’m pretty sure they said cosmetic micro transactions only

And that’s sorta all they need to do

It’s not like that isn’t industry standard at this point

Doesn’t make it okay but it’s not XP boosts or anything

As long as the base gear still looks good

And tbf to D3, that game made a ton of money and didn’t have MTX

We got a ton of cool cosmetics in D3, I’m sure that will still be the same in D4 since they clearly plan to continue seasons

I do hope that once the game reaches EoL they add offline play though

Or before - I’m not a huge fan of online only

[solemn flame]

Yeah what a weird take

[regal pond]

I’m still worried about endgame since they’ve been pretty vague about that, but as long as we get more than rifts and adventure, I’m probably going to be happy

Would be nice to be able to bind more abilities too but that’s often an intentional limitation

[exotic spruce]

I always give the benefit of the doubt when it comes to endgame content on new releases, personally. I'm sure there will be plenty of time for it to get fleshed out after working on different classes

[regal pond]

It’s still a core part of Diablo though

So there’s gotta be something

It can’t be as bad as D3 at launch

[exotic spruce]

Oh, ofc

But I generally expect content to get better after launch, especially with Blizzard games

[regal pond]

Lol quarterly updated talking exactly about this

[granite badge]

d3 has mtx. the necromancer is mtx

actually idr any other mtx besides that

[granite badge]

most people want diablo to be less like wow i think. or at least a large proportion

[regal pond]

more like micro dlc tbh

[regal pond]

i mean - im not asking for 20 abilities

just more like PoE

8-10

[granite badge]

This is doable on d2R already

left trigger or bumper is used as a Shift button

most controller buttons are remappable in-game

unlike d3 which has no pc controller support

[granite badge]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23816415/diablo-iv-quarterly-update-august-2022

[granite badge]

though there are definitely cool ways that wow deals with utilizing old content that could be used in d4

[regal pond]

i dont think the diablo franchise has problems dealing with old content and keeping it relevant

they already stated that they plan to have seasons and an alt leveling method for D4 AT LAUNCH, which is such a huge improvement over 3 that im sure itll be a huge success

[cosmic harbor]

Just came here and saw this message. Couldn't agree more!

[twilit carbon]

Idk, I would classify Necromancer as DLC. Not really a "micro"transaction

[regal pond]

That’s where I put it

I’ve never seen anyone consider additional gameplay content as a MTX

And yeah, it’s almost guaranteed D4 will have post launch class/content DLC

There’s no crusader

[twilit carbon]

I wonder if they will go with Crusader or Paladin

[regal pond]

Is there a difference? I thought crusader was the Diablo pally

[twilit carbon]

Paladin is the Diablo Paladin from D2

[regal pond]

Ah

We don’t have monk in D4 either right?

[twilit carbon]

I dont believe so

[regal pond]

And I guess there’s D3 witch doctor but I don’t see that one coming back

So I think the big expac for D4 would maybe have either Crusader, monk or both

And then a new area or maybe a few new ones

And maybe some new endgame activity

[twilit carbon]

Witch Doctor was awesome

Would fit right into the darker D4 looks with spirits and pestulance and beasties.

[obsidian sedge]

Feels like Rogue is a mix of DH + Monk with daggers.
But yeah I'd agree that for future content it would make sense to bring the beloved classes back. Maybe even a completely new one?

If you could pick any class/fantasy and put it into diablo (one that has not been done yet)- which one would come to your mind?

(general question for everyone here)

[royal moss]

Diablo 4. Can’t wait.

[delicate dagger]

I don't need my favorite class's origin story to be fulfilled. It just needs to have a legitimate story of some depth that explains why we would delve into such an evil place. D2 was masterful in its cinematics and choice of a coward for a storyteller who had to follow. That's the kind of game I'll spend money to play. And play.

[granite badge]

At the 2022 Xbox Games Showcase we foretold Lilith, the Blessed Mother’s return.

uhhh it was foretold at BlizzCon 2019 actually

[signal aurora]

Beta invites going out, just got one in an email

[regal pond]

Isn’t is closed beta?

I thought you can’t talk about it

[sharp yoke]

It's not a secret is it?

[sour thunder]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23827587/developer-update-closed-end-game-beta-draws-near

[regal pond]

Guess not

You just can’t share any info

[signal aurora]

The test itself is under NDA and they don't want you to share the email cause it's got a unique invite code, but the existence of it isn't secret

[tepid nexus]

It's time. good luck with beta guys, i will follow the NDA so im not gonna post any info of the beta but i implore all of you to report all bugs and if gameplay feels off, tell blizz. We want this game to be good.

[spare niche]

lets gooo

[regal pond]

You can’t even mention you have access my dude

It violates the NDA you signed

[cloud turret]

He is not the only one ^^ https://twitter.com/Stevicules/status/1582804188702027776?s=20&t=6FWbdPM3_5Ao-phbkxriiw

Steve Krömer (@Stevicules)

Und Ihr so? #Diablo4

Twitter · Oct 19, 2022, 6:41 PM

[regal pond]

if they lose access, they lose access ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cant fix stupid

[molten prairie]

Tweet's even deleted xD

[cloud turret]

ya now xD but hastag d4 had a lot of people saying they are in xD

some event had screenshots and told how good they think it is xD

[regal pond]

great way to get banned and potentially lose your entire account

[molten prairie]

stupidity really ain't fixable

[smoky field]

Lmao, get over it. Talked to a blizzard cs agent. We can talk about being in the test. It's just like any other beta.

[smoky field]

Wrong again

[tepid nexus]

how u guys get beta keys and when they will launch the game , any rumors??

[rose sky]

Beta invitations were granted based upon previous Diablo seasonal play - D2R, D3, and Diablo Immortal were all said to be considered.

In other words, it was invitation-only based upon each players' (or accounts') experience playing Diablo games. Even then, many players who played A LOT recently have not received invitations. So there was likely more to it than that, but that's all they revealed in this announcement: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23827587/developer-update-closed-end-game-beta-draws-near.

[smoky field]

Correct. I was in the Diablo 2 beta so I got an invite. Nuff said

[regal pond]

no one was even talking to you - idk why you responded saying correct to a post that literally describes blizzards literal description of how people get access

like - blizzard literally said "here is who we are giving access to"

you dont need to comment "correct" and then talk about having a beta that you arent really supposed to talk about having since its under NDA

[solemn flame]

by that logic i was in the D3 and D:I beta, yet i got no access to this one yet. /shrug

[smoky field]

Understood. Not everybody gets in but I was referring to the post where he said about past testers.

[smoky field]

I ain't going to argue with you. We can say we are in but that's it.

[pallid glen]

High-level demon hunters reporting for duty

[smoky field]

Apparently, as of today,for some strange reason, somebody posted there are no nda's. Don't ask me why or how but I ain't too sure there was any to begin with because I did some checking and nobody has seen any written notification about a d4 closed beta nda.

[solemn flame]

I mean, was there a form you had to agree to before accessing the beta?

That would be the quickest way to remember if there was an NDA or not

[regal pond]

There absolutely is an NDA when you log into the game and in the email that gives you the link to activate your beta

So whoever said there isn’t will get there account banned when the client ID watermark is found in any info they post

[solemn flame]

Ah yes also the telltale water all over the screen just in case anyone decides to share some video or SS

[smoky field]

Dude, I have been a part of closed beta testing on the Diablo series and I have never seen an nda, and I brought it up to blizzard myself due to your own insistence there is

[smoky field]

And also, don't you think technology can beat anything?

The list of names on d4 closed testing is due to be released soon just like the d2 list was

There's not enough in this testing to even worry about an nda.

Kinda stupid of blizzard to say hey, closed testing will begin and invites went out but yet you can't talk about it to the public when they disclose how to get in it. Food for thought. They should have kept their mouths shut then sent out invites

[exotic spruce]

This is the dumbest fucking back and forth on the entire server

Channel needs a refresh tbh

[solemn flame]

hate to break it to you bud but it's a confidential testing phase which means you're not allowed to share info from testing

[solemn flame]

What we really need is some D4 info to drop so the conversation can truly shift away from this topic lol

[smoky field]

Be patient. It's coming

[hearty musk]

U dont need to activate the beta through a link. If you are chosen, the game will appear as its own tab in the Blizzard launhcer.

[smoky field]

It is when you have someone that thinks he knows it all. Been testing in the Diablo series for a long time, since d2 and I am credited with that on the internet.

[exotic spruce]

You're responsible for half of this nonsense. People want to talk about and hype for D4, not listen to your unnecessary peacocking about nothing. Nobody cares if you're friends with Ben Diablo himself

[smoky field]

What is it with you. You're talking to me a guy who has been beta testing in the Diablo series since D2 and you wanna tell me I am wrong? Get real.

[solemn flame]

bro, no one cares. literally no one cares. it's a confidential testing phase whether or not you believe there was/is an NDA is your own problem. if you're so confident there isn't an NDA then share some screengrabs and put your money where your mouth is.

[regal pond]

All they are going to share will be the list of names from old D2 stuff

It’s all they do

[smoky field]

And you are going around like a Mr know it all

[solemn flame]

of course he's going to ignore my statement

[exotic spruce]

Nobody cares. You're just sitting there bragging. Nobody wants to read about your brags, we want to read and hype over D4. That's the point you're not getting. You're acting like we should all bend over and be thankful you're mansplaining how things work to us

[smoky field]

First it's the content delivery, then it's d4, cool your jets peach,

[regal pond]

Wut

[smoky field]

And I don't care what you think.

[solemn flame]

the fact that there isn't screengrabs of D4 all over the place right now means there is in fact an NDA active.

[regal pond]

^

[smoky field]

Liar

[exotic spruce]

If there isn't one active, then post stuff

[solemn flame]

okay

post them mr i'm in the beta of D4

[exotic spruce]

Either put up or shut up

[smoky field]

Don't have to. I know what's going on and I ain't falling for it

[regal pond]

If there’s no NDA you can post. Otherwise you are just circlejerking

[smoky field]

Kma

[solemn flame]

yeah, okay

[regal pond]

Oooo, a conspiracy theory

[exotic spruce]

<@&299347348847329281> This behavior isn't appropriate and is disruptive to the channel topic as well as the server

[smoky field]

Yes it is and you are harassing me

[regal pond]

How

How are you being harassed?

Because people ask questions and you don’t answer and then you get called out?

[solemn flame]

if anything you're harassing us by restating the same thing day after day

[regal pond]

^^^^

[smoky field]

Best thing to do is not even reply to me.

[regal pond]

It’s disruptive af

Then why say anything?

[smoky field]

Because it's from experience, something you don't have

[solemn flame]

....right

[regal pond]

That doesn’t even make sense

Like as a response

[solemn flame]

cause you've shown such restraint from keeping your mouth shut too

[regal pond]

“Don’t reply to me because I have experience”

[smoky field]

Content delivery? Knew all about it before you even opened your mouth to me about it peach.

[solemn flame]

what in the world does this have to do with the NDA for D4?

[exotic spruce]

Nothing

[solemn flame]

oh okay

[smoky field]

Just stop it! Somebody else told peach he was wrong TODAY as well

[exotic spruce]

Just gonna resort to 🆗s at this point, guys. They're either this into their own behavior that they don't know any better, or they're actively trolling and being disruptive. Engaging with them obviously is just going to make them dig in their heels and keep acting like this.

[smoky field]

Look in the mirror before you call me a troll

[solemn flame]

"hey guys i'm in the D4 beta and there's no NDA. what you want proof? no way you'll not get me that easily"

[smoky field]

I am older than any of you so back off

Last warning

[solemn flame]

like age has anything to do with it my guy

[solemn flame]

honestly what are you gonna do?

[exotic spruce]

Emotes, daniel. Emotes.

[solemn flame]

no, i truly wanna see what he thinks his age and beta access will get him over me

[exotic spruce]

It's really just an "ok boomer" moment

Thinking age matters in this situation is just 🤡 mode

[solemn flame]

if anything i started in this "fight" to let him know there is in fact an NDA and i wouldn't want to see anyone lose access to beta over something so silly but he refuses to see it

[smoky field]

Learn what the word means before using it

[solemn flame]

huh, seems he's all talk. oh well like i thought l literally nothing to be done. anywho. can't wait for some more D4 info.

[exotic spruce]

There was some discussion of actual leaked D4 beta feedback here which I found interesting: https://youtu.be/EbcbCfG-zUk

(originally I was just watching this for EVE info)

[solemn flame]

gold will actually be useful?

that will be something lol

[exotic spruce]

Aside from upgrades and transmog, I know

[smoky field]

Congratulations you just discovered what I have known for days. People are going to datamine d4 so what good is a nda? SHEESH!

[exotic spruce]

I wish I was this dedicated to making people not like me

[solemn flame]

we will just have to hope that it stays useful through the lifecycle of the game and hopefully not used as a currency for fast travel lol

[exotic spruce]

Meh, even then

As long as you're not doing some dumb rookie rpg mistake like buying gear from merchants then the gold should stockpile quickly

[smoky field]

Sometimes you have to, it is what it is

[regal pond]

World tier stuff sounds interesting

Sounds kinda like how New World does difficulty except it’s Diablo and as a result hopefully wont be as frustrating

[solemn flame]

world tiers just seem like D3s difficulty slider with special drops and locked behind actually having to kill the world boss to go up to a higher difficulty. not that i think it's a bad idea

but i do see world tier 100 is the "end of the endgame"

well....will get you to the end of the endgame

[regal pond]

Well they said level 100 to unlock the final world tier

Not world tier 100

Could be 8-10 tiers for all we know

Remember, you’re supposed to finish the campaign around halfway to level 100

[solemn flame]

ah, i see

well yeah i'd say 8-10 tiers leaving room for an expansion to add 5 more

im pretty excited for D4. i'll have to move the xbox back to the big ol'TV for casual lazy days off the computer lol

[stoic fiber]

who cares if you tested D2 ? it's a D4 channel

you are just looking for drama

[solemn flame]

https://tenor.com/view/me-myself-irene-charlie-ohboy-gif-7369802

[hardy bough]

l33t hax bro, dupe me an enigma in d4 plz

[blazing peak]

Hard to argue with this point, no matter what 😄

[exotic spruce]

You gave your "last warning" last week, I don't think anyone respects or cares about anything you have to say about Diablo 500, Torchlight, or Titan Quest for that matter

[regal pond]

<@&299347348847329281>

Can you do something please? All this guy does is insult people and talk about the wrong game

This is the D4 channel

[exotic spruce]

I can't believe he's still on this either

[regal pond]

It is literally all he posts

Not hyperbole

Insults or saying “I tested D2 back in the day so you HAVE to respect me” when he isn’t even saying anything to respect or disrespect in the first place

[exotic spruce]

Or that we have to respect him because he's "older than us"

[regal pond]

Don’t forget that you can flag a message directly to the moderators - I just did that

[solemn flame]

my biggest issue is how disrespectful he is to others. he's constantly telling people who he has no idea how old they are that they better respect him cause he's older and calling people son implying they are younger than him. he also demands respect because he beta tested a game over a decade ago. he also threated me with "last warning" despite all i was trying to do was just help him not get him by the NDA.

oh i see

[exotic spruce]

(Looks like he's gone, my only shared server with him is TSL now)

[solemn flame]

well good luck in there lol

well thank you mods. if you removed him or he got scared and left.

[exotic spruce]

So back to D4 lol

Fingers crossed about the April launch rumors

[stoic fiber]

Nice to see him gone, i was lurking this channel from time to time to see if something interesting was posted and this guy was just drama queen boomer

I cant wait to have d4 images and footages ! I want to play druid so badly

[regal pond]

Messages are gone too

Good riddance

D4 looks interesting

[exotic spruce]

Unfortunately not all of them, just ones going back a week or so lmao

[regal pond]

Not sure what to think of how they’ve changed the skill trees

[exotic spruce]

Yeah that'll be watchworthy

[stoic fiber]

I think that's the default parameter when someone get banned

[regal pond]

I kinda liked the skill trees that looked like trees but I have no idea how they played

[exotic spruce]

World bosses and the adventure mode 🥳

[regal pond]

Still a bit worried about the limited paragon levels too

I liked being able to always make some progress

[exotic spruce]

Honestly I think that's a thing that will come out with content updates

[regal pond]

I hope not

Then it’s just gimping new players because new content will be too difficult

[exotic spruce]

I mean, unless there's a similar system

[regal pond]

I mean - if they’re building the game for seasons I guess it isn’t that bad

Since a character would really only matter for 3-4 months

[exotic spruce]

True, but too much of an advantage towards grindcore players can also be off-putting to a certain extent

[regal pond]

I’m curious about world tiers vs nightmare etc difficulty levels

[exotic spruce]

I wonder if they'll do a ng+ system relating to seasons--I know my D3 seasonal characters felt like they sizzled out too quick

[regal pond]

As I mentioned before - kinda reminds me of new world

[regal pond]

That was a thing in D3

You could restart the character

Didn’t really count for much tbf

[exotic spruce]

Well that's what I'm saying, something with a little more oomph for D4

[regal pond]

The bigger issue with D3 seasons is most of them only touched endgame and weren’t very significant until you were far along in end game

[exotic spruce]

At the very least in adventure mode

[regal pond]

I want PoE style seasons where there’s a new thing throughout leveling that evolves further as you head further into endgame

And then they can decide to add that to the game - like they did with Kanais cube powers

[exotic spruce]

Oh, yeah, something that will flavor the meat of the content

[regal pond]

Honestly I just want a beta where people can share gameplay - I want to see stuff, not just press releases, old screenshots and interviews

[rose sky]

There's leaks all over the place if you look for it.

[lone thorn]

Any hypers ? pre order is supposed to be this week ?

[regal pond]

Im not going to preorder until I see more gameplay or I get to play some kind of beta

If I preorder

There is no benefit to a long term preorder

[solemn flame]

Eh, depends on what the preorder is and when it’s dropping didn’t they said it’s supposed to be Q1/2 this year but I remain skeptical since we haven’t seen a lot.

But I DO wanna be hyped for it.

[regal pond]

Game is releasing by March

[solemn flame]

June 6th let’s go

[sterile plank]

What options available in nz/aus. I wonder. Want the mount… Wish they’d have concrete info before opening pre release stuff only

[solemn flame]

Can’t you not preorder on bnet launcher?

[sterile plank]

Not buying digital and physical

[solemn flame]

Okay well physical editions get it when the game launches on June 6th like it says the info dump

[sterile plank]

But they announce something available in aus/nz but not exactly what it is

Unless it’s just exactly that box and you have to buy a physical game there at the same time. Kinda wierd

A step back from other wow Diablo collectors editions for sure.

[solemn flame]

Yes, that D4 CE box thing doesn’t include a game

[merry agate]

Doesn't it cost less, though?

[solemn flame]

I think it’s 96$ usd

[merry agate]

Aren't you happy Blizz is becoming less greedy?

Oh.

Nvm.

[solemn flame]

Which is 4 dollar less than the ultimate edition of D4 without D4

[merry agate]

Insignificant.

[solemn flame]

Which is great for super fans of D4. I’m just glad I can buy the D4 ultimate edition and not get a bunch of stuff I will ultimately not need

Like I don’t need an led candle

[sterile plank]

200 dollars for a box without a game is not good

Lmao

Slowly watched collectors go from 120 here to 190. More a “premium” version at this stage than collectors

[solemn flame]

I mean you can buy the ultimate edition for 99$ usd and get the in game goodies and the game

If you are uninterested in the other 96.66$ worth of stuff they don’t force you to buy that like it used to be. This is a win in my books

[sterile plank]

I need to spend nearly 400 here to get what would typically be in a collectors box

[solemn flame]

Imagine that, it takes money to be a collector

[sterile plank]

Obviously there is some additional items in this collectors box but game + wings + mount + art book should be available as a collectors

[upbeat loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C7NYqTVDgU&ab_channel=Sylhepnia

This WoW mount is awesome!

[solemn flame]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the art book as a solo purchase down the road

[sterile plank]

Look at all the other wow collector boxes and Diablo box sets

Why is that style not available here ?

[solemn flame]

Also what about gamers who mainly play on console who also want the fancy box but that only comes with the PC version and they don’t want to spend an extra whatever to buy a version of the game they aren’t gonna use. The collector stuff being a separate purchase elevates that.

[sterile plank]

Sure. But now you have 2 collectors items each distinct.

Digital has shifted to premium from collectors which is a sad move

[last quartz]

No pre orders for consoles?

[sterile plank]

Paid (digital only) game, paid battle pass, paid collectors and to top it off “up to 4 days early access” ( also known as if you don’t pay you play 4 days after release date) is a rort imo

[solemn flame]

Again it takes money to be a collector. You either spend you money on the in game items then you can decide to really go in and get the extra stuff but I’m glad I don’t have to spend $200 to get all the in game items and get a box of stuff I’ll shove in my closet and pull out 5 years later

[sterile plank]

But what are you getting for your money. You receive the standard digital items that would typically come with the game

[solemn flame]

Not the extra stuff

[sterile plank]

It’s a smart move from them for sure. Take $100 of items and sell them as 3 individual packs ages for $70 instead

[solemn flame]

You can get the base game with the base items or you can get the extra items with the ultimate edition

[sterile plank]

And you still don’t get the collectors items you got for the same price in previous box sets

Book mousepad pin and poster and Highest level game are STANDARD collectors items lol

[solemn flame]

I can’t.

[sterile plank]

Lmao this is coming from someone who already has every collectors item. You can try spin it as yo u like

[solemn flame]

They literally made these packages off off data they collected off surveys. The general notion now is majorly of people do not want that and would rather spend the 100 bucks and get in game goodies and not something to put on a shelve but instead of dropping that completely blizzard added it on as a optional purchase for the collectors.

[sterile plank]

So include the game in the box

[solemn flame]

The. They would have to charge $60-70 more dollars

[sterile plank]

No they wouldn’t

But they can so why not

[solemn flame]

…

Just buy the base game and the collectors box then

[sterile plank]

It’s literally a collectors box that has been released for decades in this form

Minus the game

[solemn flame]

You spend $160ish and get everything you got before accounting for inflation you should be somewhere in the same place

[sterile plank]

😂

[solemn flame]

Change is bad

Change is scary

[sterile plank]

No ripping people off is. My 200 collectors editions are now approaching 400

[solemn flame]

Then don’t buy it

[sterile plank]

That’s not change or scary

[solemn flame]

If it is unreasonably priced for you then you obviously value your money more than the collector items. (Which is fair)

[sterile plank]

No. The cost of the collectors items has been artificially doubled

[solemn flame]

But don’t force the people who want just the digital items and nothing else into buying it to get all the digital items

[sterile plank]

You can buy digital only for both wow and Diablo already

[solemn flame]

whoosh

[sterile plank]

No the whoosh is on you my friend

If you can’t see it there’s a problem lmao. I have no problem spending the money. The problem is how they have split $100 to make $160

Great business decision

[solemn flame]

I have no problem cause I’m not getting physical items that are just gonna sit in their box

[sterile plank]

So buy digital deluxe exactly as you did before

Nothing changes there lol

[unborn mauve]

https://youtu.be/KsNDMHvz98M

So epic

[mortal lion]

I cant wait

[obtuse nymph]

I've only really been able to find articles saying Diablo 4 is online only, but I don't have PlayStation+

And I've seen it say that the game can be played solo still but you need an online connection

So basically, anyone know for certain if I'll either; have to have ps+ or I'll just need a connection and won't see other people

Or is console treated different. I know with D3 I didn't have ps+ and it worked fine

[junior bolt]

when is the beta

[regal pond]

No clear info yet afaik

[regal pond]

Unknown - not soon

[white fractal]

Dude the release trailer is amazing

It’s so beautiful and epic

I love tyrael

I know I’ll be watching this over and over lol

[regal pond]

pretty sure its inarius

i thought it was tyrael originally too, but tyrael gave up being an angel in D3

and the D4 preorder stuff focuses on inarius

[merry agate]

Fairly certain Tyrael is dead in D4. He never went back to being an angel, and D4 is a 100 years timeskip.

Sure, he became Wisdom, but not the Archangel of Wisdom.

Also, Maltheal is flippin' awesome.

https://tenor.com/view/malthael-head-tilt-diablo-gif-9703117

[white fractal]

Ohhh

Looks just like tyrael though! Well maybe Inarius or whoever took on the mantle of being Archangel of Justice.. it’s standard gear for the title.. haha

[exotic spruce]

Or he dies and becomes an angel again

[white fractal]

You can’t escape your fate

[merry agate]

Escapes fate anyway

[white fractal]

Wow, escape your fate! gods hate this one trick…

[inland skiff]

Since we have promotional art from months ago for Inarius i'd say it is indeed Inarius and with Tyrael since he was the first of his kind to do that we don't know that after his death where he would go, Would he become an Archangel again? or die like a normal mortal. Hopefully we'll find out more once we get the book of Lorath in April.

[silver zodiac]

i'm getting the game for free due to the hell's tattoo i'm wondering if ill get the mount to... can any one else help answer this

[solemn flame]

i'm assuming you would since the only thing is owning the game so if they give you a code for the game on bnet it would just give you the basic redeem but i'm sure it's a code for the ultimate edition. which tattoo did you end up getting?

[wild canyon]

Yeah I'd say it depends on the level of code given. I'd assume base, but maybe they were more generous than that.

[solemn flame]

weell the mount comes with every edition of the game right?

so unless it's a different type of redeem for just the game then no but i don't see that happening

[silver zodiac]

spider

and yes it's the ultiamte

[solemn flame]

yeah then you're getting the mount

[silver zodiac]

i just haven't got the code yet

[solemn flame]

unfortunately it's one of those cases where they don't really need to give you the code until at the very least june 6th

[silver zodiac]

i get early accesss with it

[solemn flame]

but it think if it works like the DF preorder stuff you could probably preorder another edition of the game and then when you redeem the second code it will credit you Bnet balance like the other stuff does

oh yeah well then june 2nd.

[silver zodiac]

email tell's me not to pre order

[solemn flame]

but then you'd also miss out on beta so i'd assume you'll get the code before the beta is up and probably before the end of the year

[wild canyon]

I hadn't kept up with the information on the rewards, my bad and thanks

[silver zodiac]

yeah all of that

[solemn flame]

np, lol i was surprised to see it on every edition honestly

[wild canyon]

Yeah I assumed it wouldn't be lol

[silver zodiac]

i'm just wanting my rage dog mount for now hence me asking since i'm getting to and not acculkly "pre ordering"

[solemn flame]

im just so thankful for cross progression so i can casually play with the wife on the box and also play on the pc with pc friends

[silver zodiac]

thats still great

[white fractal]

share a pic of diablo tat! I wish I could get one. I'd probably get more than one diablo tattoo. hah.

[silver zodiac]

not sure of the best chat channel for that

[solemn flame]

butt tat? 😂

[wild canyon]

As long as it's not inappropriate I don't see a problem. You can DM it to me if you want me to confirm first.

[silver zodiac]

@wild canyon sent

Here ya go

[solemn flame]

hell ya pretty pog.

[last quartz]

So I don’t get this shit I got the base edition on Xbox and I didn’t get the mount on my Warcraft account what’s up with that

[regal pond]

are they the same account?

and youre playing retail wow right? not classic/wrath?

[solemn flame]

also i believe you wont get the preorder bonus for xbox until the actual release iirc

[regal pond]

^this might also be a possibility

different refund rules

[solemn flame]

i believe it had info on it in the page for it

@last quartz

[twin pond]

yay 70$ for a mount

[solemn flame]

Don’t like it don’t buy it, you act like that’s literally the only thing you get for the purchase when you get a whole game and the mount is a bonus

[amber blade]

Leave him alone he's just trying blizz-doom

[copper iron]

In all fairness... the price for the game is a joke, mount included or not

[solemn flame]

ah yes, the new normal price for games is a "joke" uhh...sure.

[copper iron]

I mean it is

Especially for an ARPG

[solemn flame]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

we the consumer can show them what's a fair price or not by not buying it

[copper iron]

AAA 3rd Person games, and First Person games, I can warrant paying the 70, but for an ARPG, or a RTS game, that price is just abysmal. Expected nothing less from Blizzard tbf

[solemn flame]

well...i hope you get ready for most AAA titles being 70 bucks

[copper iron]

That's like releasing Pokemon Blue in the modern day with the same graphics, and charging 60+ for it...

[solemn flame]

but if you don't value the game that much then don't buy it

[copper iron]

I will wait until its released before purchasing. CDKeys will probably have it for around 55-60

[regal pond]

Pokémon blue at release was $40 - that’s the equivalent of ~$75 today

Also, what makes a story based ARPG worth less than a single player rpg?

What about single player Arpg?

[copper iron]

Yeah, but today, those graphics wouldn't be worth the money. Back then, when it released, it was.

Also, there is far more work that goes into a Single Player RPG than there is going into a Top-Down ARPG

[regal pond]

So what matters is the graphics?

[regal pond]

That’s blatantly false

So you would say all top down games are worth less? Also Diablo is isometric - it still has 3D environments

That would include all crpgs - so pillars of infinity, baldurs gate 3, etc

[copper iron]

It's not even remotely false. Gameplay and Mechanics might get the same treatment. But visuals, effects and dialog doesn't get anywhere near the same as a AAA RPG. Hard facts.

[copper iron]

If its an 8-bit game released today and charging $70? Yes, the graphics really do matter

[solemn flame]

Again you’re putting your own values on something. To you D4 isn’t worth $70 bucks but to others it is and that’s simply okay.

Someone could easily say CoD isn’t worth $70 bucks because I don’t like shooters but they will gladly spend that money on D4 because they love games like that

This isn’t a copy and paste rerelease or “updated graphics”. This is a new game with new gameplay and story. If that’s not your cup of tea that’s fine. No one is forcing you to buy it at $70

[copper iron]

And thats fair

Still doesn't mean that when comparing the work put into it, with another game thats a third person AAA game like GoW: Ragnarok, that Diablo 4 is worth the same price.

[solemn flame]

So you’re saying all the people working on D4 doesn’t work as hard as GoW?

So because their game is a different style or gameplay mechanics than the other the value of their work is less?

[regal pond]

^this is my problem with your argument

[sterile plank]

YIKES

and an extra 40 to get the digital items

Oops that’s ps5 version but pc was the same

For reference, dragonflight collectors was 189 nzd including physical and digital items

[regal pond]

Doesn’t this have a statue or something?

[heavy veldt]

it has a electronic candle instead of a statue

[sterile plank]

Sure a $120 candle

Just trying to justify it in my head now. Like what’s different here from prior Diablo and wow collectors to justify a nearly doubling of the price

If the red circled products came in a typical collectors box which includes the game and digital items I’d gladly pay the $200-220. Seems like they value these (in green) prints and map at about 120 relatively

[regal pond]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk - i never buy super fancy collector's stuff

dont have that kind of disposable income

[solemn flame]

If you don’t feel like you’re getting the value out of it don’t buy it

If anything you begrudgingly buying it and complaining about it just shows blizzard that that price point isn’t too outrageous cause you’ll still buy it

[sterile plank]

You don’t buy them right

Kinda odd you have the strong opinion about it when you purchase just the digital

It’s a fair concept to consider where value is coming from and how it is priced out and why

[solemn flame]

I buy collector edition things when I deem them worth the money.

This I don’t feel like is worth the additional $96 dollars. Which is way I skipped this CE box

It’s kinda weird you have such distain for the value of this collectors box that you already bought or will be buying since you “collect them all”

The value of something is much like an opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own. Like I said before it’s completely okay for you to deem this unreasonable and not pay for it but I don’t see what you are trying to accomplish by both buying it and being upset about buying it.
Like I said before being upset about it and buying just shows blizzard it’s “okay” at the price they put it at because “yeah people are upset but it’s still selling” so if you want anything to happen you best bet is to keep your money in your wallet and not begrudgingly buy it

[white fractal]

I've been fortunate in my life. $70 or even $90 is nothing to me. I spend that on a dinner for two at what I'd consider to be a cheap restaurant. And I'll play D4 for I'm sure at least 500 hours. That's 18 cents an hour.

Also imo this is a great deal for any diablo fan https://gear.blizzard.com/products/diabcl0001-diablo®-iv-limited-collector-s-box
I'm definitely getting it

[copper iron]

"no game included"

[scenic cave]

Have fun with your candle

[fast dune]

[trim hearth]

that is so bizarre that a collector's box no longer has the actual game in it. what a joke.

[regal pond]

To be fair - most people don’t have disk drives so the only thing it could really include is a code

[trim hearth]

a code would be fine, but that page suggests there is no game at all included with it.

[regal pond]

Yeah that’s kinda dumb

[rose sky]

There is no game with it. The reason is because they want to allow you to purchase the digital version with the goodies you prefer in them and then add this on if you enjoy the physical extras. Logic is sound, and they would have received even more grief from players if it included the deluxe version and cost $90 more.

[open kayak]

there's no Diablo4 closed beta yet right?

or alpha access even?

coz back in Dragonflight I was multilogging 2 accounts for RAF, my other account has the Blizzard email talking about the D4 Early access but my main account has no such email...

[regal pond]

its hard to know. There was a brief end game beta for people who regularly reached very late endgame in D3 and D2R but since then nothing openly talked about

its hard to say for sure since it could be under NDA, but its more likely not a thing since there arent any regular D4 CDN builds

so everything is internal, probably

[solemn flame]

oh i'm in the beta and there's no NDA 😂 oh good times good times

but seriously yeah it's probably mostly internal before the beta coming in march with preorders and the other gimmicks they got planned

[regal pond]

theres an active beta?

[solemn flame]

no, clearly you've forgotten about our good friend

[regal pond]

oh

you were making a joke

sorry

no tone in text

[solemn flame]

you know the "im in the beta and there's no NDA but i won't prove i'm in the beta"

"but look i'm in the credits of D2"

[regal pond]

yes

i remembered

[open kayak]

mrpeach did u get the email that has a "The Diablo IV Beta Raises Hell This March, Kanael!" header?

yep even my old RAF accounts, didnt get the email

out of 3 bnet accounts i have only this one had that ...

flipping blizz dont let me down

[regal pond]

its just a promo email for the open beta

theyre building hype

[open kayak]

so everyone has that email?

checked a brother's email account, last played before Dragonflight (and had to move to another city for work) he didnt have the email

this is the email i got which the other RAF accounts didnt have

[regal pond]

most people

literally just a promo email

it means nothing

its an open beta weekend

literally everyone will be able to play

i think you might have to have signed up for d4 new or the d4 beta to get the email

i dont quite understand why you are obsessed with the email

its an open beta

[open kayak]

i thought that account is flagged for closed beta or something, ok thanks, its nothing then.

[solemn flame]

I mean, is there a link/code for a closed beta in there? If so then yes you’ve been selected for closed beta. If not then and it’s telling you about two weekends in March then no that’s the open beta that literally anyone can play if you preorder

[open kayak]

did u get the mail lehr? its weird only ONE account out of 4 had the email and 3 of the accounts im sure i signed for the beta last year for more chances lol..

[solemn flame]

I didn’t get that specific email but I did get an email telling me about the beta and the weekends it’s up but like I said. Is there a link/code for closed beta? Then you’ve made it. If not and it’s talking about two weekends in March then that’s the open beta that literally anyone can get into

[open kayak]

no also i thought blizz arent giving codes since people are selling them on the black market

[narrow bay]

is there a specific official or community discord dedicated ONLY to diablo 4?

[rose sky]

Not official, but all about D4 and tied to the Reddit community. https://discord.gg/Sbvn8qt2

[narrow bay]

Thanks

[tepid nexus]

Satan vs Sekhmet LaVeyan Satanism

[regal pond]

https://www.gameinformer.com/2023/03/01/a-guided-tour-through-the-five-regions-of-diablo-4s-sanctuary

game informer has an article they just released with short videos of each area and some developer commentary

they confirm we do get to go back to Caldeum which had not been previously confirmed

[lone mountain]

Did WoWhead look more into this? https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/get-diablo-iv-beta-early-access-for-digitally-ordering-at-kfc-on-march-6-331518

I think might not be real.

I have a feeling this was a hoax and someone crawled reddit for news and posted it haha.

[solemn flame]

Yeah, not sure March 6th seems to be the return of the double down but nothing about any cross promotion with blizzard indicated anywhere

[regal pond]

tbf, wowhead literally just linked a rumor and said "hey theres this rumor"

clearly it was just that - a rumor

[wicked haven]

Believe me when I say that we're just as bamboozled

[lone mountain]

Hey now I don't have to feel as bad not having a KFC haha!

[wicked haven]

@regal pond is obviously right, though - rumors are just rumors

[solemn flame]

oh now it's the 9th lol

[lone mountain]

Yeah looks like it's back on haha

nearest KFC 😦

[solemn flame]

if you wanna put in a mobile order i'll pick it up for you 😛

at mine of course. LOL not that i need to eat a double down or anything

[vocal dagger]

whens the beta releasing guys?

[regal pond]

look it up

literally the easiest thing to look up

[analog stirrup]

9 days iirc?

[solemn flame]

It’s for real this time

Also for those wondering code gets sent pretty much immediately after you place the order on their app/website so if you were desperate enough for a code you could just order a double down and never pick it up /shrug

[lone mountain]

If anyone gets an extra code that they don't need, feel free to send me one. It's like a 4+ Hour roundtrip to a KFC for me haha.

That being said I just wait an extra week we all get to play, but it's more fun having 2 weekends muhaha.

[analog stirrup]

you can just order one online

and never go get

[lone mountain]

Yeah but I could pre-order the game as well and cancel it that be more value for the $$. I would of enjoyed a meal and a free key on the side.

[solemn flame]

think of it as a way to pay for an employee meal

[lone mountain]

eh

I'm Canadian so it's more like paying HQ for a meal

[sharp copper]

Boooo, I went to two KFCs today, first time in decades. One had given away the 10 they had on hand. The other mumbled that they had them, but after I got my order they said, “what are you talking about?” I’m on the fence about whether I want to buy the game, so this seemed like a nice way to try it. (The sandwich was great by the way. 😄)

[solemn flame]

"buy on the app/their website"

you don't get codes in store

[sharp copper]

Well, like I said, the guy in the first store had them earlier in the day…

I'll admit to not having read the fine print: "Early access code exclusively available with purchase of sandwich on KFC.com or the KFC app between 3/8 and 3/18, while supplies last." But then it's super weird that the guy thought he had tickets earlier he'd given away?! Gah.

[solemn flame]

he likely lied to you

[sharp copper]

KFC employees are notorious liars!

[solemn flame]

because it's an easier pill to take "sorry you weren't here fast enough" as opposed to "you had to order online not inperson"

[heady laurel]

KFC.. finger lickin' good

[merry agate]

KFC - Kentucky Fried Chicken.

[rugged rapids]

84gb on pc, yikes, i wonder how big the full game will be

[regal pond]

84gb

blizz demos usually are the full thing

they just block progression and encrypt stuff that isnt for playing

[vague pilot]

I'm trying to pull the files from the beta archive, but it fails because there is no listfile.

[regal pond]

yeah - thats sorta how that works

its not a playable beta

until its playable, pretty sure you cant pull ANY files

[vague pilot]

But wowhead already has a 3d model of the barbarian https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/diablo-iv-beta-male-barbarian-armor-sets-331897

[regal pond]

probably from the closed beta

or they have keys from that beta and can access the files

[regal pond]

either way, even if you pulled the correct model files from the retail build, you cant just load them

you would need a program that could properly process them

[vague pilot]

tried TACT, but the cdns and versions are encrypted

[regal pond]

this also isnt a datamining discord - those exist, but its not this one, and afaik D4 uses very different file setups than WoW

your best bet would be finding a datamining discord

[vague pilot]

🙂

I googled it but couldn't find it, if you have any datamining discord information, please share it with me

[regal pond]

only wow, not diablo

sorry

[lone mountain]

Neat D3 footage posted today.

I actually love how they seem to have gone back to more like D3 3.5 and enhanced it

[analog stirrup]

what?

[solemn flame]

i think they meant d4 footage

[lone mountain]

opps yes d4 lol

IDK if that was an option to make it more like D3.5 or some buggered recording or not. Everyone sounds shock by it. I kind of like it lol

[regal pond]

i assume you are talking about the UI or something?

or it could be the colors - theres a lot of additional highlighting on the console version

this is the first time we are seeing footage from console and its almost definitely got a bunch of console specific stuff turned on

most of the existing footage has been PC

PC probably also just looks better

[lone mountain]

Yeah that is true. I like the colors I plan on playing on PC, I thought maybe they had maybe color filter options or something the player could maybe modify. That being said your kind right any and all other footage / screenshots did not even look close to what we saw today, so it could also be some sort of encoding thing that happen by accident.

[regal pond]

i dont think so

i think they just have some console options enabled

stuff like enemy highlighting, floating damage numbers and the big health bars on the screen are likely all accessibility options you can enable or disable

[languid oak]

You could already datamine the files. They are not encrypted. Since wednesday you could download the beta client and check the files. Not sure if we are allowed to talk about stuff from the data files in here. Like the strings and stuff, they are kinda interesting

[vague pilot]

I tried Casc Viewer and Casc Explorer but missing listfile. how to modified?

[languid oak]

CASC Explorer is just missing 4 extension information and missing the fenrirb entry for download from cdn

[vague pilot]

could you explain the details? I download CASCExplorer-v1.0.198 from WoW-Tools/CASCExplorer, and failed to open Diablo IV Beta path. should I download the source and modify the TACT entry?

[tidal hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929969194957697034/937616284747698196/catterattacker.gif

live footage of me waiting

[vague pilot]

added <add key="fenrisb" value="Diablo IV (Beta)"/> to CASCExplorer.exe.config but don't work

[lone mountain]

Is there holiday events in D4 😉 What's for Saint Patrick's Day! 😛

[regal pond]

it wont let me in!

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[alpine osprey]

Epic fail

[night ridge]

I'm in!

[regal pond]

its open!

[alpine osprey]

Still can't play it

button is grayed out

[night ridge]

Reopen bnet

[regal pond]

there is queue

[night ridge]

Should work then

[alpine osprey]

Im in

[regal pond]

hot tip

dont cancel - it crashes

[night ridge]

Hit cancel if your in front of me in que

Fastest way for you to get in

[regal pond]

my queue wasnt working

it is now

has a ~2 min timer

[night ridge]

I'm gonna find rikaminanushu when I get in

[regal pond]

crashed midway through the intro cutscene

might take too long

anyone able to set texture quality to high?

doesnt even give me the option

[solemn flame]

no necro or druid 😦

[regal pond]

next weekend

[solemn flame]

yeah, i didn't look at the notes lol

[regal pond]

omg skill trees are a lot

theres a lot of skills

[analog stirrup]

meme or no?

[regal pond]

not a meme - compared to D3 thats a lot

[analog stirrup]

mm

[cunning stump]

Getting an error code trying to make my character?

[analog stirrup]

its prob about even

[regal pond]

yeah i just errored

[regal pond]

definitely not

[regal pond]

think the servers mightve just crashed

[analog stirrup]

they did

[regal pond]

and my character appears to not be loading

time to relog

[analog stirrup]

https://i.imgur.com/G8rR4xl.png

servers dead

[regal pond]

oh jeez

[cunning stump]

Classic blizzard launch day

[regal pond]

i mean - it IS a beta

[cunning stump]

True, but even when its not things still usually go south xd

[regal pond]

oh boy

i think the queue time is accurate

gross

[alpine osprey]

40mins in

boom

[cunning stump]

im still on character creation screen

Do I need to restart or am i good lol

[regal pond]

kinda expected - all the servers crashed and now everyone wants to log back in so login servers are full

[solemn flame]

just keep trying to enter the world. it worked for me

[cunning stump]

sweet it worked

[lone mountain]

SimCity vibes lol, Want to play solo in a dungeon crawler but must be online 😛

[regal pond]

wait - so dont sit in the 40 min queue?

[solemn flame]

no no, with the character creation whenever it times out or fails just keep trying to reenter the world

[regal pond]

oh ok

[alpine osprey]

I did that for about 10 mins, kept saying network error.

closed and reopened game, now in a 80 min queue

[regal pond]

https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/1636773810274996224?s=20

Blizzard CS - The Americas (@BlizzardCS)

[#Diablo4] We're currently investigating an issue affecting our authentication servers, which may result in failed or slow login attempts.

Twitter · Mar 17, 2023, 4:57 PM

[solemn flame]

did the first quest and then the game crash on the cutscene, 92 min queue. if yall get in i'd recommend skipping them lol

[regal pond]

anyone able to figure out how to turn off chat

[brazen apex]

Performance in this game is really bad

lots of stuttering, especially in cutscenes?

and entering new areas

[lone mountain]

none here

[regal pond]

this is new

im having no performance problems

are you running on an older computer?

or have stuff in the background?

cutscene stuttering yes, but i think thats mainly because as they said in known issues - optimization is WIP

[brazen apex]

lots of stuttering when opening chests, entering new areas, encountering new enemies. I've got a 2080 and a 9700k

[lone mountain]

wow that is quite cool.

There is a lot of meats and potatoes more then I expected in it.

[regal pond]

yeah

oh dang

found the wardrobe

[tough hinge]

Yooo - anyone get any of their pre-order stuff yet in the Beta?

Or is that down until game release

[regal pond]

release

world tier statue visually reflects your selected tier

tier 1 compared to 2

[lone mountain]

haha sweet

[regal pond]

has anyone found any life regen?

feels strange to not have it yet

[lone mountain]

This whole diff weapon types is strange to me lol

Got this cool weapon but none my skills using 2h

[regal pond]

i kinda like it

its neat to have the different weapons for different skills and encourages you to diversify your build

right now my barb uses the slashing and bludgeoning two handers

overall i really like the direction of this game - i was a bit worried and my worries have been assuaged

[lone mountain]

Yeah I figured it out and changed my skills also some skills can use other weapons had to middle mouse button on them. It's neat, it will take a bit of time to get use to. I agree better then old way use any weapon + any skill and their just stat sticks and nothing else that was kind of boring.

[regal pond]

middle mouse button?

[lone mountain]

S key then on the skills

middle mouse changes this part

(clicking not scrolling)

[regal pond]

OH THATS AWESOME

thanks

i wrote a feedback thing in the ingame bug reporter (esc menu or ctrl-B) about how that deserves a tutorial

[lone mountain]

good idea. Yeah the d4 discord has a lot people asking how to swap, etc.

[regal pond]

if anyone sees a treasure goblin, plz take a screenshot. I want to know if theyre in the beta or not

[lone mountain]

it is

I killed one I will try look in my video after

how I got my first legendary at level 8

[solemn flame]

anyone know if queue times are more reasonable now?

[lone mountain]

let us know

[solemn flame]

ok :c lol

64 mins, so no lol

guess ill go install that new light fixture while i wait lol

[lone mountain]

So my issues right now is I can't travel to the main city waypoint or use my own teleport to town ability.

[solemn flame]

welp that didn't take as long as i needed it to lol

[alpine osprey]

Game just randomly closed and back in a 90 min queue.. so apparently they don't have disconnect queue prevention like they do for wow.

[lone mountain]

tbh should not have a queue to begin with but that is just me I guess 😛

[solemn flame]

yeah, i wish we could queue into single player mode and enjoy the beta but i mean this is what betas are for. they are likely testing their severs as well as balance of classes

[regal pond]

there is no singleplayer mode

[solemn flame]

i know this

[lone mountain]

So if I don't close the game but leave the current game I'm at the start of a queue again?

My game is a bit buggy and want to relog to fix it, but I fear I will be on hours of waiting.

[regal pond]

queue doesnt actually take as long as it says

my 40 min queue took 15

[solemn flame]

yeah sure

[lone mountain]

lmao

[regal pond]

still not ideal ofc

[lone mountain]

this seems like entrapment

[solemn flame]

my 64 mins queue took almost an hour

[lone mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[regal pond]

but like - learning opportunities here - server architecture is different than D3

[lone mountain]

it's WoW

with invisible walls 😛

when going to those phased zones

if it does not load

it pushes you back lol

where in WoW it would just load empty till other things load in

leaving was a bad idea

4:31PM EST

40/15 = 2.6min = 1 min so back in 30min to get in :p

[solemn flame]

fuck, crashed again because i didn't skip the next cutscene D:

[lone mountain]

if you keep crashing you might have driver issues or something else

I have to admit one thing this game has yet done for me is crash

it's rock solid outside of silly online bug issues

[solemn flame]

it's weird cause i've never had issues with anything else

[lone mountain]

when is the last time you update your drivers for your video card for example

[solemn flame]

not sure honestly couldn't have been too long

says it's upto date ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone mountain]

4:31 - 5:13

42 Minutes 79/42 = 1.88 not bad

[regal pond]

well and the queue itself apparently isnt the issue

according to the news post the queue is intentional to prevent an issue while they fix it

[lone mountain]

if you right click the map you can set an actual path

[alpine osprey]

I'm level 12, and got 4 legendaries already.. lol

[lone mountain]

I'm also 12 🙂 sorry you are behind one 😛

[brazen apex]

can we unlock mounts in this beta?

[regal pond]

just DC'd - anyone else?

i found the Butcher

he is in D4 too!

The Asylum Dungeon

according to reddit: "The butcher randomly appears in dungeons and if you don't kill him in a certain amount of time or he kills you he leaves."

[minor herald]

anyone else stuck with no main quest? the ones being shown say I can't do them in this version but I preordered

[regal pond]

you can only play through act 1

this isnt the full game

is there a solution to this other than continuing to try?

[minor herald]

I'm level 8

I'm stuck at level 8 lol I thought u can progress to 25

[regal pond]

look around - maybe the quest is on the map

[minor herald]

I did 😦 maybe I missed it, but I restarted so post queue I'll check again ahah

[lone mountain]

btw mrpeach

what was your thoughts on them putting effort into programming the whole game version can only do act 1 and such

makes me wonder if their considering a trial/free edition

[lone mountain]

Once you get that error I think that is it you have to relog 😦

[regal pond]

yeah i searched the internet

[regal pond]

possible considering the popup when you enter the town "buy diablo 4"

[lone mountain]

I had the same error I stayed for like 10min or so and kept trying without luck lol

[regal pond]

but also its not that much work

[lone mountain]

true, but it's unlike blizzard too

they normally just break / prune stuff not really put that much effort into a temp block hah

[regal pond]

they know what zone you are in - if you get near a zone you cant be in they give a warning, start a timer and teleport you, and they just turn off XP

[regal pond]

no they dont

they normally do this

this is what wow does during its betas

[lone mountain]

was your game acting up so you decided to relog?

[regal pond]

no

DC'd

was fighting the butcher in the asylum

died

DCd

apparently the butcher is a random event miniboss now

he is extremely dangerous

he also apparently disappears if you die

[lone mountain]

so life on kill you were looking for

or well that is kill not hit but something hehe

[tough hinge]

welp, beta finished 😩

Time to grind levels

[regal pond]

actually i was looking for life regen

i dont think there is any

[regal pond]

only to 25

not much of a grind if youve been doing side quests

[regal pond]

I JUST DCd AGAIN

and i just got back in

wtf

[lone mountain]

ouch

[brazen apex]

Is there anything I can do about this error or do I need to brave the queues again?

[regal pond]

relog

though they mightve fixed it finally

[analog stirrup]

theres still a queue

not as long

[alpine osprey]

whats up with these invisible walls? i can't get to certain locations for campaign quests at lvl 18

[regal pond]

yes but the error login thing is weird

[regal pond]

try going around

which quest

if its out in the world, try going back to town via portal and taking a different route

[solemn flame]

oh cross save is running during the beta how nice

xbox queue time was only 6 mins

[analog stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/215529435250688000/1086600617717415976/My_Build.mp4

[brazen apex]

how do I choose which weapon slot I equip? If I have two weapons, it just picks one

I can't get it to choose the other

[lone mountain]

so am the Only one who thinks itemization feels a bit odd? Maybe not as rewarding? from 1-20 I got 12 legendaries during that time.

[regal pond]

That’s plenty. It’s more in line with D2, especially considering a lot of that is waiting for world tier 3. My big problem has been how hard the game is. I’m a little worried about how much my health rubberbands and how my da,age didn’t seem better as I leveled

[analog stirrup]

it thought it was pretty easy

loot is more like, more twords d3, but slightly twords d2

[lone mountain]

I'm playing a barb it's not hard hard, but I find it much more grindy not as much hero feel

I do feel like as I level though after 15+

the scaling feels a bit more harsher towards me

even though I keep replacing new gear and such

[analog stirrup]

i've only done sorc, was gunna do barb next

[regal pond]

might be playing on world tier 2

game is probably balanced around tier 1

which means tier 2 is legit hard

[analog stirrup]

i was playing as hard as i could get it

[regal pond]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

well i got to 20 on my barbarian last night

gonna try sorcerer today

not trying to get to 25 because i dont need to do every piece of content

[lone mountain]

hmm blizzard did something bad I think

[analog stirrup]

?

also did yall look at the vid i sent earlier

[lone mountain]

did they make it so when you use gems it changed min item level of something lol

[analog stirrup]

you mean like D2

[lone mountain]

n/m the item is level 20 base I guess

I might be wrong lol

had no clue they were so high most my items like many levels lower then me I noticed

nope I take it back

I checked old footage

so my legendary 1h weapons were level 10

but I put in a gem that I think was level 20 on it

and it pushed the item to level 20

even if you remove the gem it's still level 20

[analog stirrup]

that part would be a bug

[lone mountain]

Not a "big" deal besides maybe alt and recycling said items

[analog stirrup]

should still report it, or see if its been reported atleast

[lone mountain]

but I guess they don't want people to over gem anymore.... It's like their trying make people not go crazy with damage and keep them scaled like a MMO

yeah I can do that

[lone mountain]

alters of Lilith

[solemn flame]

bruh what, i literally just got up and tried to log on

[lone mountain]

close battle.net

and reopen then try

anyways boss time 😉

[torn vector]

anyone see world boss up?

[lone mountain]

boss forgot to purchase Early Access

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Diablo IV

everyone just sitting at the boss lol

https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/1637139531114639361

Blizzard CS - The Americas (@BlizzardCS)

@cyraxe_ It's being looked into, friend. Thanks for the report. ^JH

Twitter · Mar 18, 2023, 5:10 PM

[lone mountain]

now I'm relogging I had 4+ under level 10 at the boss

19 min to go

“Daylight Savings” does not exist in Sanctuary.

Get ready to face Ashava at 11am, 1pm, 11pm and 1am PDT.

[lone mountain]

this experience was ruined because of low levels able to show up and eat up the player max slots...

Well that felt more like WoW with a bad Pug then Diablo lol

[regal pond]

probably why theyre testing it

but also probably wont be THIS scheduled (ie more than once a week) and there will be several of them

[lone mountain]

Remove the Timer, add a level restriction possibly would be better.

[regal pond]

put it in the ingame feedback thing

click report a bug

[lone mountain]

ok

[regal pond]

then feedback

ive been doing that a bunch

[vagrant flare]

is there a Official DIABLO 4 discord ?

[lone mountain]

diablo4

another bug I'm going report

anyone else have issues where you click these and your char refuses to do damage

[regal pond]

yeah sometimes - i think its a desync/server issue

[lone mountain]

I find if you hold shift you know to stop and swing it works, but yeah something else is at play there.

I think I'm about to retire my Barb. Not getting much fun out of it the longer I play the more I hate myself lol

[regal pond]

usually i move then target again

[regal pond]

yeah theyre too weak at higher levels

damage doesnt increase to match enemy damage

feels good until about level 17 or so

then it gets too hard for barb

[lone mountain]

yup and so many the enemies especially bosses seem to trash all around them within melee range

[regal pond]

had to switch from fun skills to defensive just to survive

[regal pond]

yeah this is another issue

most attacks target melee, not ranged

im sure theyre getting feedback about this and will get more

[lone mountain]

Frosthron at level 22 the freeing of the Malnok town that made me cry. I actually finally got him but holy heck that was just the end for me lol

Is there a overall playtime section? You know in D3 where shows you playtime of each class and such that was fun with all the statistics.

[regal pond]

general forum consensus seems to be that D4 Barbarian is undertuned

which i would agree

barbarian already HAS to invest in higher defense due to attacks targetting melee more

and they also dont deal enough damage

base damage on abilities for barb probably needs a big buff

and so does health and armor tbh

barb should be tanky by default

[lone mountain]

yeah

😉

69 lol

[lone mountain]

@regal pondAnother odd thing have you noticed the item level of gear that drops vs your current level?

[regal pond]

it goes up to a point

i think its tied to the area level and current ilvl

[lone mountain]

ahh

also lol thought I try again

throwing it for everyone haha

[regal pond]

what do you mean?

does it scale down to the lowest player or something?

[lone mountain]

nope

it does not scale down at all min is level 25

meaning level 8 throws the fight

[regal pond]

so what do you mean theyre throwing it? are there a limited number of players?

[lone mountain]

yeah

[regal pond]

so theyre taking a slot

[lone mountain]

they limit the amount of people

yup

[regal pond]

gotcha, yeah i imagine theyll just stop letting people who arent near the level in before release

[lone mountain]

not their fault of course just saying though its throwing the fight

[regal pond]

maybe theyll have a fix for next week's tests?

but i imagine theyll fix it before release

[lone mountain]

maybe

yeah they do have a while at least

I fear our barbs will not be fixed though

[regal pond]

nah - it might not happen before release but it will happen

theres a clear consensus barb is too weak - D3 had the same problem

[lone mountain]

for D3 it did not happen till the first and only expansion lol

[regal pond]

wish i knew someone on the D4 team to ask

[lone mountain]

lmao

[regal pond]

i assume the boss is already dead right?

[lone mountain]

7min left

for those who can't kill it lol

[regal pond]

im not 25

21

oh boy

this thing does not have readable attacks

[analog stirrup]

best friend face tanked it

[regal pond]

mainly the ones where it pulls back behind it after

not a fan of those

also barb has no fucking mobility

so i just die

also dots

[lone mountain]

we just killed it

yeah I died over and over lol

and then after all my stuff broke

[regal pond]

its a mess

gold costs are bad too

[lone mountain]

oh god I forgot about that

[regal pond]

i portald to repair and the boss is gone

wtf

[lone mountain]

it's really time to switch to sorc 😛

yeah don't leave

or you lose it

they should give you a warning

[analog stirrup]

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfuDe2rrHiU

Friend doing it

he just

face tanked it all

[regal pond]

and theyre not even a barbarian

because barbarian is fucking weak by comparison

its crazy how they fucked that up again

[analog stirrup]

barb wasn't weak in d3 tho?

[lone mountain]

Yes and keep in mind that they did fix part of it over time Barbarians truly fix Came in 2.0 reaper of souls.

It sounds like Mr peaches like me and barbers his favourite character which is kind of the disheartening part of it.

I can't see them just buffing them and it works. The whole game seems engineered to be really bad for Barbs

[regal pond]

it was when it launched

they had to do a flat 30% damage reduction buff to all melee classes when D3 launched

[regal pond]

thats the problem

every boss drops stuff on the ground but its all in melee range - why isnt it spread out?

[analog stirrup]

didn't play launch d3

[regal pond]

barb has less mobility so they cant dodge as quick

[lone mountain]

ouch them repair costs haha

[regal pond]

which when a bosses attack is right in front of you, is a problem

[regal pond]

gold costs are fucked right now

[lone mountain]

and that is using crappy gear too not even close to our levels

best item the boss dropped was 17 hehe

[regal pond]

yeah thats probably not right

[lone mountain]

was level 16 and 17 legendaries

lets hope some the balance issues is just their scaling system that they over messed with for the beta.