wow-help

[keen pewter]

You can just try them 😛

Even if you don't pay, you can go up to level 20

Which doesn't sound a lot but it should provide good enough of a sample to know whether a class as a whole is your style or not

[short cloak]

ahhh i gotcha

[upper tapir]

I made a support ticket with Blizzard was not able to get any help for my problem ... ((( I have joined Kyrian Covenant ))) and Im 22 renown on my toon ... but the campaign quest line telling me to join Kyrian Covenant and gets bugged ... anone had this problem? I cant do campaign quest line stuck

[pallid fulcrum]

someone posted it yesterday

[polar wasp]

If abandoning the quest and retaking it doesnt work,try switching covenants and see if that fixes it

[coral rampart]

switching covenant gets you a lockout

its best to wait for blizz to respond

seems to be a bug

blizz can be slow sometimes so play something else or another toon while you wait 😛 and its weekend so ...

[pallid fulcrum]

what is the name of the item that lets you tame undead pets as a bm?

i need to buy it cos i just found the skelly raptors

and they look cooler than my white ones

[supple warren]

Tome of bone-binding. It's bind on pickup. I got mine in theather of pain.

[neon star]

can i get dark iron dwarf as a blood elf dh?

[coral rampart]

if you transfer faction sure

xD

dark iron is alliance race

[prime elbow]

if you mean race transfer, no. dhs can only be either night elf or blood elf.

[coral rampart]

🤔 i may have missunderstood that question

[prime elbow]

i just filled in the blanks, in case he meant either 😛

[sage hornet]

How do you pick up Daisy? I'm afraid to leave her alone crawling around Oribos

[polar wasp]

./beckon

[sage hornet]

thanks!

[cobalt escarp]

Hello All

Can someone tell Me if they have gotten rid of Legion recipes? The Panda is gone in Dalaran, and so is the table there.

I just came back to the game after a long absence.

[pallid fulcrum]

can anyone tell me how i deactivate, that my camera turns with A and D? just started a few minuted ago and this annoys me a lot

[cobalt escarp]

Hmm, I would have to look. I just got back. I use the mouse to move and turn. and the A and D moves Me sideways @pallid fulcrum

[winged cedar]

w

[cobalt escarp]

WOWHead doesn't help at all with the Legion Cooking. It's outdated. Oh well.

[pallid fulcrum]

if i fight against an enemy i wanna be able to move to left and right without turning my camera away from my enemy

and i dont wanna hold down rmb the whole time

[cobalt escarp]

I gotcha, I would look in the settings. I'm not sure why it's panning the camera @pallid fulcrum

[pallid fulcrum]

wait a minute i figured it out

[cobalt escarp]

But this removal of cooking recipes in Legion is enough to keep Me from paying another month of this. Tired of them chaging things in this all the time when they come out with a new expansion.

[pallid fulcrum]

moving left and right without the cam is q and e

[cobalt escarp]

Ok cool @pallid fulcrum

[pallid fulcrum]

sadly i have no idea about your problem

[cobalt escarp]

It's ok

[cobalt flint]

You must first learn six (or maybe four, but probably six) cooking recipes from the Broken Isles before Nomi appears in Dalaran. Also, make sure you are in the correct version of Dalaran; it may sound stupid, but a couple of people didn't know what to do because they confused the two.

[cobalt escarp]

Im at the dalaran that you can fly to the broken shore @cobalt flint

Are You saying I have to go to the broken isles to get these recipes or something @cobalt flint ?

A quest?

I have Legion coooking it says, but there's no recipes in it at all.

[cobalt flint]

Basically, after you learn your first Legion cooking recipe, Nomi will approach you to learn more recipes. Only after you do that he will start accepting work orders in his kitchen.

Those first recipes can be obtained from some quests and as drops from monsters.

[cobalt escarp]

Just food of Draenor. the one above in my cooking window just say food of broken isles

Ahh

Ok thanks. I guess I will go do some more hunting then, thanks @cobalt flint

[cobalt flint]

If you dig in through the key binding menu, you can rebind strafing (AKA moving sideways without turning the camera) from Q and E to A and D. Then you can rebind Q and E into something else, like maybe some of your abilities.

[cobalt escarp]

@cobalt flint Just to be clear cause I have been gone a very long time. Legion is the Broken Isles, right?

[cobalt flint]

Yep

[cobalt escarp]

Ok thanks. Just wanted to make sure. Cause I have killed a lot of things in Broken isles, and have never gotten one single recipe

[cobalt flint]

Although some quests may send you to older zones. Especially class order hall ones.

[cobalt escarp]

All I have is the "Food of Broken Isles" in My cooking window. and it has a level of 1. and no recipes.

Ahhh

Maybe i need to go there and look around

[cobalt flint]

This should help explain things https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/legion-cooking-leveling

[cobalt escarp]

Ahh, thanks

Cheer ! @cobalt flint This will get Me started on the right path. Thanks again 🙂

Ok, AFK now. 🙂

@cobalt flint I got a recipe, thanks again. Now I go meet Nomi in Dalaran. 🙂

[pallid fulcrum]

im kinda stuck. im at lv 6 now and i cant release my last pet to tame a new one

because its my last pet

but when i try to tame a second one so i can release it, it tells me i cant tame anymore pets

so am i stuck with my pet now?

[cobalt flint]

@pallid fulcrum Which pet you are using doesn't matter at this low level. Wait until you get the quest to tame your second pet. They will also teach you how to use stable masters then.

[pallid fulcrum]

its just because ive read that i want a ferocious pet

[pallid fulcrum]

ye i checked that its bop

[obtuse aurora]

Hiya, I've installed bartender4 to help me with my bars, but I've lost the blizzard bit with bags, talents, spellbook etc in the bottom of my screen. Does anyone know how I get that back or keep it in the bottom right of my screen?

Ah, micro menu. I found it 😄

[cobalt escarp]

@obtuse aurora 🙂

[pseudo laurel]

When does the anima reservoir unlock? I'm doing threads of fate and I'm getting drops that give anima that I can't use

[gritty basin]

Guys, i need your help, please!
I am playing WoW with a friend, we have both the trial version so we need someone to create a group for us. Are you availble to help? We are in Eternity Well EU server

[ionic fractal]

Is unlocking the void elves as big a time sink as the nightborne?

[cobalt flint]

Not really, Void Elves are pretty quick. Not as quick as Highmountain or Vulpera, but still rather quick. Nightborne are one of the worst.

[ionic fractal]

Okay cool. Just unlocked Zandalari today. I've got 3 Allied Races on each side unlocked

[cobalt flint]

After getting them all after patch 9.0, Kul Tirans are probably the worst.

[ionic fractal]

So I just need Void Elves, Light Forged Draenii, High Mountain and then the orcs

[cobalt flint]

Void Elves and Lightfoged share the same requirement, so you are esentailly working towards both at the same time.

[ionic fractal]

That's cool

[cobalt flint]

If you have Zandalari already, then Maghar should already be unlocked, you're just the final questline away.

[ionic fractal]

Ah. Cool

[desert jackal]

any1 able to help me do the send my fahter a message quest its so hard and im clueless @everyone

[pallid fulcrum]

dont ping everyone

[fluid thicket]

best dps pet for marksman hunter?

[pallid fulcrum]

if i were you id go to the hunter discord

[pallid fulcrum]

None

And all pets do the same damage

[fluid thicket]

@pallid fulcrum which would you recommend?

[pallid fulcrum]

None

[fluid thicket]

@pallid fulcrum are you trolling?

[pallid fulcrum]

No

[Lone Wolf]

[forest lily]

Lone Wolf - https://www.wowhead.com/quest=44921/lone-wolf - Live 9.0.5

Lone Wolf

Live 9.0.5

[pallid fulcrum]

Ugh, wrong thing

Thanks for nothing wowhead bot

[fluid thicket]

@pallid fulcrum thx

[cobalt flint]

Basically, Marksmanship Hunters get bonus damage when they use no pet

[pallid fulcrum]

Marksman hunters have a passive trait that when not using a pet they gain a 10% dps buff to compensate for not having a pet. While there is no damage loss with or without a pet in single target scenarios, during AoE the 10% is much more noticeable

[fluid thicket]

@pallid fulcrum ohh good to know

@pallid fulcrum so no pet is better than having a pet?

[pallid fulcrum]

Use a scalehide or a gorilla for solo PvE content, a raptor or bird of prey for PvP, and NO PET for group content

Dude don't ping me with every message it's annoying

[fluid thicket]

ok thanks mate

[pallid fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/WhvvNGeHHME

[hallow cloud]

covenant for retri pala ?

Kyrian

[pallid fulcrum]

Or Venthyr

Ashen Hallow is pretty nice

[final canyon]

Hi I'm new here I hope this is the right channel to ask.

So I recently picked up wow again after playing it a little bit in the past. So I'm not so familiar with all there is to know and I wonder If I could get help solving an issue I have.

Its like this I'm a nightelf and Im in stormwind. I just got my black saber (or something like that was the name.) Mount. And The npc said that I could buy more mounts from there. Well I clicked the npc and all other npcs nerby related to mounts but none give me an option to buy more.

I have a paid subscription.

My question is am i too low level or am I still in tutorial mode somehow?

I think I read something about nightelfs stable masters were in another place like theres some exeption to them or maby that was skill trainers? Can have been an old post. Any ways so I'm wondering how to unlock the function of buying more mounts from the stable master.

[pallid fulcrum]

Still on the tutorial. The other Night Elf racial mounts are sold specifically by a Night Elf mount vendor. Racial mounts can only be purchased by members not of that race if they have exalted reputation with that race's reputation faction

There are different mount vendors all over the place, not just that one. That one there in Stormwind was placed specifically for the tutorial to get a mount and riding training smack at level 10

[final canyon]

Ok. But I mean just regular normal mounts. Dosen't have to be racial ones.

[pallid fulcrum]

Racial mounts are the "regular normal" mounts

[final canyon]

Okay, so I should finnish the tutorial then where can I find another vendor woth more mounts for me?

[pallid fulcrum]

There are too many mount vendors to list on one discord message

[final canyon]

Ahhhhaaa see I didn't know that. I tought all races could have all kinds of mounts except a few mounts.

[pallid fulcrum]

@final canyon
https://www.wowhead.com/guide=3822/lord-of-the-reins-the-complete-mount-collecting-guide

[final canyon]

I mean wich mount vrndor is closest to stormwind? Except for the tutorial one.

[pallid fulcrum]

Read this

[final canyon]

Oh thank you

[pallid fulcrum]

It's... way more complex of an answer than you realize you're asking for

[final canyon]

Hrm Intressting.

Ill check the link out then :)

[pallid fulcrum]

You should

This is the wowhead discord server, and wowhead itself is an excellent resource for guides and information

When in doubt, check wowhead for a guide

[final canyon]

Hihi that kind of rhymed :)

So the thing you said about racial mounts confuses me. Cuze Ive seen allot of people trying to gett like all mounts in game. How is that possible if thryre race bound? Maby I misinterpreted.

[cobalt flint]

@final canyon "Race-specific" mounts are a small fraction of the total. Most mounts can be used by any character. Some mounts are limited to one faction as a whole. Those basic "race-specific" mounts are actually available to any race in that faction. You can obtain them either by getting the exalted reputation with that race or by simply making a new character of that race and just buying those mounts on them (which will add those mounts to your account-wide collection).

[final canyon]

@cobalt flint Oh ok that was what i tought from the beginning but I tought @pallid fulcrum meant that night elf only can have racial night elf mounts. Maby I misunderstood.

Yes what youre saying now was my guess before hand.

Also the guide gumball gace me is good but it only shows me all mounts not anywhere to buy them.

Isnt there aby mount vendor that has a few I dont beed aby particular one id be happy to get any att all ^^

Gave*

[pallid fulcrum]

Like a human could go to the mount vendor in Elwynn Forest and purchase all of the horses there, but a dwarf trying to do the same would need to be exalted with Stormwind City

[final canyon]

Im a foreigner what does "exalted with stormwind city" mean.

[pallid fulcrum]

You not only misunderstood me, but you clearly didn't read enough into the guide as the guide DOES show you where to purchase different mounts

[final canyon]

Maby I need to look a bit deeper then.

[cobalt flint]

Exalted is the maximum reputation level obtainable for a faction.

[pallid fulcrum]

You do.

[final canyon]

Ah yes so If I want other races mounts I have to be besties with that race first.

xD?

[pallid fulcrum]

That's what we said.

[signal latch]

im new to wow and have only played a trial. it is currently $78 to play for 6 months. are their any alternatives?

[pallid fulcrum]

$15 monthly subscription, 60-days for $30, or a WoW token for 30 days for gold

[signal latch]

how do you personally pay?

[pallid fulcrum]

i saw you talked about allied races erlier and mentionned that Kul tiras is the worse .. i thin i saw on reddits that it's the only allied race where you still need rep in order to do some quest so that some npc spawn the right way or something like that ...

if that's true i don't think i will farm them at all x)

[pallid fulcrum]

Subscription supplemented with buying WoW tokens for gold

[signal latch]

isn't that a big grind for gold

[pallid fulcrum]

No

Not with initial time investment

There are as many ways to make gold as there are to make money

Hell, most of my other Blizzard games I buy using gold since you can redeem WoW tokens for Blizzard balance instead of gametime

[signal latch]

what the hell

so you can buys games with wow?

[pallid fulcrum]

I sell maybe 2-5 trained battle pets for each token, but that's how I personally do it

Yeah you can

[signal latch]

holy

[pallid fulcrum]

It's how I paid for Overwatch, WC3 Reforged, StarCraft, and everything but the base version of Diablo 3

[signal latch]

thats cool

so what would you say for me to do

[pallid fulcrum]

Spend $30 on a 60 day

Easiest, least amount of effort or commitment

[signal latch]

then play enough to sustain wow tokens?

[pallid fulcrum]

Sure

[signal latch]

how did you say you made gold again

[pallid fulcrum]

My method doesn't work for everyone

[final canyon]

So do i need to be any specifik lv to obtain mounts? I mean I get that some that drop I must be a certain lv to kill the mlnsters dropping and some may be locked behind a dungeon or something but other than that.

I started yesterday so Im under lv 10 hahah

[signal latch]

whats the normal way

[pallid fulcrum]

The guide answers this.

Go read it.

[polar wasp]

There is no "normal" its pretty much like earning money IRL theres millions of ways to do it xD

[signal latch]

well idk

[cobalt flint]

@pallid fulcrum Fortunately, no. Or at least I don't think so, as I haven't encountered any reputation-related roadblocks. I think you might need to do the Tiragarde Sound quests until you complete the Freehold section, maybe a bit more, because Flynn is not available to you then or something.

The annoying thing is that not only you need Tides of Vengeance achievement (like for Zandalari), which is a bit annoying itself (as you have to earn it separately on Alliance, if you only did it on Horde), but there are also A LOT of dungeons needed to obtain the Pride of Kul Tiras achievement, including the Heroic-only Siege of Boralus. If you are doing it on a level 50 character, have fun waiting in queues.

[signal latch]

im level goddamn 11

[pallid fulcrum]

@signal latch That's why I said this

[signal latch]

ok

[pallid fulcrum]

Oof , thanks for clarifying

yeah ... doesn't sound fun at all !

[final canyon]

I tried again but it isnt telling me what i want it to xD maby I need to do a deep dive later.

Thanks for all you guys help :D @gumball#3011 @Vengir#9680

[pallid fulcrum]

You need to read and click on links within the guide

[cobalt flint]

If you have a good level 60 character, you can probably solo those dungeons. Even though I was only 50, I was lucky with the Siege of Boralus, because I tagged along with some level 60 guy who was boosting her sister through there. Otherwise I don't know how long I would have waited, as heroic level 50 dungeon queues are very long.

[pallid fulcrum]

can i buy an ilvl 200 set for 200k?

more or less

[tight elbow]

No

[whole briar]

Hi i just got exalted with the Nightfallen, because i want to earn the archievement Insurrection Archievement. But i cannot find the quest A Change of Seasons

Can someone advise me what do do and what to check?

Valtoris does not have the quest jet.

[keen pewter]

Have you tried to relog?

[whole briar]

Oh... 😄

[keen pewter]

Also requires you to have completed A Growing Crisis and the subsequent quest The Stuff of Dreams

and completion of The Stuff of Dreams by killing Xavius in the Emerald Nightmare -- not just A Growing Crisis! If you only have the reputation, you won't see it. (I'm Exalted, for example, and I can't get the quest yet)

[whole briar]

So if i kill Xavius i will have the quest pop up?

[cobalt flint]

You didn't need to become exalted to get it. They removed the reputation gate during some patch in Legion.

[whole briar]

Oh lol :x

[cobalt flint]

There is a quest that asks you to kill Xavius. Don't just kill him in the hopes of getting a quest if nobody asked you to.

[whole briar]

I see so if i have completed that one,

change of seasons pops up?

[cobalt flint]

It is definitely required at some point. I just can't remember at which point exactly.

[whole briar]

hmm lets see

thanks anyways

[cobalt flint]

You don't need to do the Court of the Stars and the Archway dungeon quests.

[whole briar]

By the way

are allied races account bound

or realm bound?

[cobalt flint]

Also keep in mind that that quest was changed, so instead of going to the raid instance, you are provided a portal to a soloable version.

Allied races are account wide.

[whole briar]

nice i just saw that i had unlocked 2 alliance and 2 horde onses allready

darenei, void elf, tauren and orc

did not know

xd

[haughty dome]

Does anyone knwo how to change the unitframe hot override in elvUI, i want to be able to see the hots im using on the unitframes when healing rather than elvs color dots

[near iris]

Hey, trying to buy a 30 day gametime but there doesn't seem to be an option for it anymore? Only managed to find recurring 30 day sub :c

[keen pewter]

Yeah

[keen pewter]

yeah on the filters

let me log in wait

[neon cedar]

game time can only be purchased for 60 days now

you can sub and immediately cancel to get a single month

[pallid fulcrum]

Yup it was changed about a month ago or close to a month. My suggestion is if ur buying 1 month just buy the reccuring and the cancel it if you wanna do it like that

I need help with 'The Tides of Vengeance' questline. nathanos isn't showing up on the boat and idk what to do.

[near iris]

Ah alright, weird. I usually only play for a month.
Thank you though! ❤️

[pallid fulcrum]

No worries happy to help!

[keen pewter]

@haughty dome what's the unitframe for the hots again? updated elvui and can't find it xd

ok nvm

Just make a filter for your spells and make it be the priority

textured icon will show the spell icon with a cd

[pallid fulcrum]

@near iris They went back to only doing the $30 60-day prepaid option, otherwise you have to sub

[cobalt flint]

It was pretty much exactly 1 month ago. I was gifted 30 days game time hours before they changed it and it expired yesterday.

[pallid fulcrum]

Oh wow thats a neat bit of info haha

[frank bolt]

Can anyone tell my why my touch of death doesnt one shot anymore?

im new

[tight elbow]

Touch of death kills only instantly kills things with less health than you

[frank bolt]

ye but i have 3k hp and cant one shot a 1k unit?

[pallid fulcrum]

It has a CHANCE to instantly kill

Mathematically it should unless they still have enough health to survive

[frank bolt]

Wait so still even if the unit has lower hp than me i, theres a chance it doesnt one shot at all?

because it one shotted always before,

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm sorry your win button isn't working. Thankfully there are still plenty of other ways to secure the kill

umm the 1k unit

was it at 100% hp?

[frank bolt]

ye

[haughty dome]

ty

[frank bolt]

If there's a catch then im sorry, due to i recently only started WoW yesterday

[pallid fulcrum]

should i do tailoring and enchanting as a warlock for professions?

[bold oyster]

Doesn’t matter too much

Professions are close

[ionic fractal]

Okay. I'm at The Orgrimmar embassy. I've earned the "Ready for War" achievement. Where do I start vision of time to unlock the orcs?

[sweet stump]

Is goldenmanes reins worth anything

[spare oar]

apparently yes

check the AH for exact prices?

[sweet stump]

None on my ah

Says 628k on wowhead website

Wasn’t sure if that was correct

[cobalt flint]

Try to relog first just in case.

[ionic fractal]

Log out and log back in?

[cobalt flint]

Yeah

[ionic fractal]

Okay.

[cobalt flint]

@sweet stump Check on Undermine Journal for historical prices. If there aren't any, you will have to name your own price.

[ionic fractal]

Eitrigg is still in the main.... wherever Lady Sylvanas and her crew hang out in Orgrimmar. Do I need to do his stuff first

[pallid fulcrum]

No

Shouldn't have to. If you have everything green and checkmarked on the embassy banner for that race, then you should have the quest there in the embassy

[cobalt flint]

@ionic fractal Are you sure you are in the Embassy and not Warchief's throne room?

[ionic fractal]

Okay. Bc the last quest I did from The Banshee's Wail was "Paying Respects" but I have the Ready for War achievement

I was at the embassy. But there's nothing there - I mean Eitrigg isn't there to start Vision of Time and Ji doesn't have a quest market above him either

[sweet stump]

Yea undermine said 700k

[cobalt flint]

@ionic fractal Have you checked if Ji Firepaw doesn't give you this quest?

[tight elbow]

Check on YOUR AH

[sweet stump]

There weren’t any @tight elbow

[pallid fulcrum]

@ionic fractal What level is the character you're currently on

Out of curiosity

[cobalt flint]

Undermine allows you to select your realm. And has almost up to date as well as historical data.

[ionic fractal]

I'm level 50

[pallid fulcrum]

odd

[sweet stump]

Yea undermine worked. Said 700k

[ionic fractal]

That's what I meant when I said Ji at the embassy didn't have a questmarker. Thought Ji was his first name lol

Let me log back in

[whole briar]

do you also need to do arluins request before you can do change of seasons?

[pallid fulcrum]

If relogging and having the achievement requirements and being level 50 doesn't work then I'm confused

[ionic fractal]

Yeah, it's weird

[cobalt flint]

Oh yeah, I missed you mentioning Ji.

[pallid fulcrum]

And you've done The Call for Allies as well, right?

[ionic fractal]

Sorry

No worries

[pallid fulcrum]

Because that has to be done before any of the recruitment quests can be done

[ionic fractal]

Well. I've unlocked Nightborne, Vulpera and Zandalari

So.....

[pallid fulcrum]

Hm

Weird

[ionic fractal]

shrugs

[whole briar]

i have problems starting insurection lol

[ionic fractal]

Did I miss something?

[pallid fulcrum]

Because to even get Zandalari you need the same stuff from Mag'har

You probably missed something somewhere

[ionic fractal]

Right

The only thing I didn't do was the raid at the end

[cobalt flint]

Maybe you did some of their quests already and you forgot in the meantime.

[pallid fulcrum]

Hell, check your quest log and make sure you don't already have the quest and just aren't tracking it 😂

[whole briar]

dont think so, only got this xd

[cobalt flint]

@ionic fractal Also try the following command. Paste it in the chat and check if it says true or false. If instead a window pops up, click accept and paste it again.
/script print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(53466))

[ionic fractal]

Ah okay. So I'm on Caverns of Time, which is the following quest

Lmao

I didn't even remember doing anything for them yet

[pallid fulcrum]

Called it

no offense to u jer but this

[ionic fractal]

I'm so sorry

[pallid fulcrum]

is everything okay here

are you okay?

[whole briar]

why xd

[pallid fulcrum]

It's not about the mistakes we make but how we deal with them, you're good 🤣

[cobalt flint]

Vision of Time is just some "talk to this guy here". It's easy to do it and forget about it.

[pallid fulcrum]

hp bar/energy bar/mana bar/other bar blue/green bar/ on ur profile

xD

[whole briar]

Haha

its good like it is

xp bar is also there

xd

[pallid fulcrum]

hahaha

[tight elbow]

My UI on my DK

[foggy whale]

that middle part looks really big, what size monitor you running

[tight elbow]

47" HD TV

[pallid fulcrum]

Big enough to fit all that panda bu- oh wait we're still in help channel

[foggy whale]

ok that kinda makes sense now

[tight elbow]

[foggy whale]

Hopefully you arent sitting like 2 inches away from the screen

rip neck

[tight elbow]

About 2 feet

[foggy whale]

gamer setup

[tight elbow]

Yee

[foggy whale]

move closer to achieve gamer neck

[pallid fulcrum]

I bumped my monitor stand at some point and now one of my 3 is crooked and I can't find my level

[tight elbow]

I dont like itty bitty monitors

[foggy whale]

Size doesn't matter.. it's how you use it...

Don't shame me for my 24.5

[tight elbow]

When I go to upgrade, it'll be to a newer TV with a higher refresh rate

I won't settle for anything less than 45"

[pallid fulcrum]

What a size queen

[foggy whale]

I would use my tv on my pc but the input lag kinda feels rough depending on the game

on wow it would be fine though

[tight elbow]

I mean, I'm a Panda

I wanna see my fuzzyself in all its glory

[pallid fulcrum]

omg can we stop before this gets out of hand 🤣

[tight elbow]

[foggy whale]

just get a 6 foot panda cutout

[tight elbow]

6 foot Pandaren Realdoll

[foggy whale]

😏

[pallid fulcrum]

🗞️

[foggy whale]

would probably run you a lot of money

a worthwhile investment however

[pallid fulcrum]

NO

NO, BAD

[tight elbow]

[foggy whale]

how many panda emotes do you have I think I see a new one every day

[pallid fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[foggy whale]

Im impressed

[pallid fulcrum]

I uh, will return later

THREE PANDA SERVERS

[tight elbow]

I love Pandas

[foggy whale]

That is some serious devotion

[tight elbow]

My favorites are definitely the ones with Ruu in the lil Duckie costume

[foggy whale]

those ones are pretty cute

[cinder palm]

is wow f2p now?

Ive gotten past lvl 10

[cobalt flint]

@cinder palm Only up to level 20.

[cinder palm]

ah ait thanks

[pallid fulcrum]

It's been a subscription service for 16+ years. Even the level 20 cap isn't all you're limited on in the Starter Edition account status. You also can't participate in numerous social features and several different in-game systems. It's just a trial

[cinder palm]

ah ok

does it limit mounts too

I'm lvl 10 so got my mount pass thifn with the quest line but no option to call it in if it where

[prime elbow]

you can, however (if you have completed bfa or reached lvl 50 on any other character), play on any expansion up until the latest one.

[pallid fulcrum]

Well since you're locked at 20 you can only get mounts that someone up to level 20 can get, and you also won't have flying or anything past the second tier of mount training

[pallid fulcrum]

Aside from any instanced content. Try walking into even the Emerald Nightmare at level 20 and see what happens

[cinder palm]

maybe cause I gotta buy a mount first

[prime elbow]

i didnt say you should, i said you can

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah, ideally you have to buy the mount before you can have the mount

🙄

ffs

[prime elbow]

ye, lvl 20 for the first mount upgrade and when you can buy regular mounts

[cinder palm]

yeh lol

I'm new to this genre and pretty thick sometimes

played a small bit of osrs and the closest thing I've spent alot of hours on is destiny 2 lmao

[cobalt flint]

In the case of Emerald Nightmare specifically, you literally can't. You need level 45 to enter at all.

[cobalt flint]

You should get your very first mount from a quest, provided you didn't skip the capital city tutorial.

[prime elbow]

ik. any raid content is not scaled in the same way. he can do some dungeons tho, abide only a selected few

[cinder palm]

yeh I did, was in my inventory and I like "used it"

[cobalt flint]

Without Chromie and limited to level 20, that would be only Freehold and Dazar'alor.

[cobalt flint]

Good. Now it is in your collection menu.

It's the small horse head icon near where you have your bags.

[cinder palm]

yeh ok

and I'd scroll through that to find it

Well navigate

[pallid fulcrum]

Mounts you have collected are at the top of that list

By default

[cinder palm]

I see

[pallid fulcrum]

You drag that mount onto a bar to use it like an ability, or just click the mount button on that window

I'm pretty sure the tutorial should have shown you that

With golden windows pointing at it

And text explaining

[cinder palm]

ah yeh ok

[pallid fulcrum]

ofc, unless you skipped through it or turned tutorials off or didn't read anything

[cinder palm]

must of missed that part

[cobalt flint]

I feel like the tutorial is not doing the perfect job explaining how mounts work. If you don't read the boxes carefully, you will miss it. There is no quest in the tutorial that strictly requires you to mount up to test your knowledge.

[pallid fulcrum]

@cinder palm
https://www.wowhead.com/guide=3367/world-of-warcraft-for-new-players
https://www.wowhead.com/guides/new-players

Take some time to read up

[cinder palm]

thanks 👍

[pallid fulcrum]

I recently played through the new starting experience, with tutorials on, just to test things out so I'd better know how to help new people get into the game since I'm helping out 3 recruits. I think it's more of a mindset with certain types of new players

The "why should I read quests and windows" crowd

[cobalt flint]

True. Although it would be nice if Blizzard accounted for them.

[pallid fulcrum]

The same type of new players that say shit like "Well in League..." or "Well compared to CoD..." or comparing any other different type of game with irrelevant comparisons

Meh. If people are being willfully ignorant then it's their own fault

The information is there for them to take in. If they elect not to, that's on them

Willful ignorance is a more disgustingly toxic and destructive trait than just being plain ignorant. Different issue entirely when the info is there and they choose to ignore it

[foggy coyote]

Hey, I'm trying to level through Maldraxxus with my friend. He picked Threads of Fate but this is my main, I haven't gotten anyone to 60 yet. He's on a lower-level character. We party-synced and both got to Maldraxxus but he's stuck in the 60 phase and it won't let us quest together. If we undo and redo party sync, I can share my quests with him, but we still don't show up to each other, and also he's level 55 and everything is 60 so it just kills him. Is this a known issue with ToF? Is there a way to cancel ToF?

[bold oyster]

No way to cancel

[foggy coyote]

That seems like a terrible, terrible idea. So if you picked Threads and you want to level with a friend you're just plain SOL?

[bold oyster]

Think so

[foggy coyote]

My friend and I often joke "Blizzard hates fun" but it's starting to seem like that's their actual business motto, and considering they're a game company, that seems like the worst possible strategy

[prime elbow]

Well, there is also lore reasons to why that isnt possible.

[pallid fulcrum]

@foggy coyote That's why there's a large disclaimer for selecting Threads of Fate when you select it

Why do you think it would be mentioned and you'd have to even type in a chat box to confirm if it wasn't a big decision

If you select ToF, then you're accepting everything about ToF

[prime elbow]

When you select threads of fate, youre basically jumping through in time, to current events.

[pallid fulcrum]

It tells you you can't swap back

[foggy coyote]

Maybe I would know what you're talking about if I had any characters at max level and took ToF

Good reading comprehension there

[pallid fulcrum]

The information is still available to you. Your ignorance of the game system is not the fault of the game system

[bold oyster]

Your friend had a notice that said they couldn’t cancel it

[pallid fulcrum]

Yep. Your friend should have been aware of the situation as well.

[prime elbow]

So basically, this info should have been relied on your friend, but cause that person didnt, so you come here...

[foggy coyote]

*he

[prime elbow]

*it

[foggy coyote]

OK transphobe

[prime elbow]

...

[pallid fulcrum]

I use they them pronouns please respect it

[foggy coyote]

he's got a theory it might have something to do with there being a WQ in the arena where the first Maldraxxus quest happens, so the game is like "oh you're here for the WQ right?" though that doesn't explain why it's locked him into the level-60 phase when he is level 55

[pallid fulcrum]

Because he's in a separate game mode

[foggy coyote]

which, you know, is still terrible game design

[pallid fulcrum]

No it isn't

[prime elbow]

Youre in a party right? it syncs the quest related things to the party leader.

[bold oyster]

Tof sends you to the 60 phase

That’s what it’s supposed to do

[foggy coyote]

…he's level 55

he gets one-shot and can't kill stuff

[pallid fulcrum]

The separation of the game mode is elaborated and behind multiple confirmation windows

[foggy coyote]

how is that not terrible game design

[bold oyster]

It skips campaign, and you do level 60 stuff

[foggy coyote]

shouldn't it be scaled down to level 55 since he's not 60?

[pallid fulcrum]

Because he's fighting elites in max-leveled zones designed for max-level characters

[foggy coyote]

also apparently he didn't think he would be grouping with anyone

[prime elbow]

not when youre doing campaign. campaign is linear

[foggy coyote]

hell he didn't think he was gonna come back to WoW after they changed the gametime model

[pallid fulcrum]

It was one thing, and they went back to what they were already doing in the past

You can sub, you can get 60 day prepaid, or you can redeem WoW tokens. It's simple

[prime elbow]

Its one of those once-in-a-lifetime situations that they have never accounted for, for a returning player.

[pallid fulcrum]

Returning players also should accept the responsibility to read up on changes and systems for the current patch, just like any other player

Knowing how to play the game in 6.1 doesn't mean you know how to play the game in 9.0.5

[foggy coyote]

tl;dr my friend can't help me with group content, I can't get help with group content, so we're both just boned?

[prime elbow]

So either he changes his character to one that hasnt picked threads of fate and you wait for him or just wait to group up to do world stuff until max level

[pallid fulcrum]

You and your friend are playing two separate game modes

[foggy coyote]

Yes, you've made that abundantly clear.

[pallid fulcrum]

Then what's the issue

[foggy coyote]

quest: "kill 10 elites"

me: "hahahaha yeah that's gonna happen"

[pallid fulcrum]

He can do it with someone in his game mode

You're not in his game mode

[foggy coyote]

and apparently I can't do it with my OTHER friend if she's also in ToF

[pallid fulcrum]

There's a reason that Threads of Fate is behind multiple confirmation boxes and a text confirmation box

If you're not in ToF and they are, then of course you still can't

[prime elbow]

better get better friends then or just do the campaign until you hit max level. then you can start doing group stuff

[pallid fulcrum]

Your lack of understanding of the system is not the fault of the system

[foggy coyote]

I'm really disappointed Perculia lets people here be so loudly unhelpful and borderline abusive

[pallid fulcrum]

Seeking offense is as toxic as seeking to offend

[bold oyster]

But yeah, you just can’t do it

Bottom line

[cobalt flint]

When you have only one confirmation box for something, that's for pretty regular stuff that should not be terribly impactful in the long term. But when you need to click multiple confirmations or type something, that is typically a warning sign you shouldn't proceed past if you don't understand the consequences.

[pallid fulcrum]

We answered and explained your scenario as described and then you lashed out with defensive hostility. You escalated the situation via your behavior.

[bold oyster]

ToF skips the campaign, so you can’t do the campaign is tired in it

[prime elbow]

Its the same thing when you get the selection of covenants. Because that is a close to a permanent choice.

[tight elbow]

I wouldn't get riled up too much. Adhara is just someone who doesn't understands things very well. I've had her blocked for about a year now because she absolutely lost her mind over a harmless comment I made. "I can't understand how people could hit the 50 character cap," somehow meant "Your opinion is shit and you don't deserve to have a voice in the community," to her and she began being extremely hostile and making threats and stuff. She has an anger issue.

[foggy coyote]

again you people are accusing me of not reading disclaimers for a system I'm not using

[prime elbow]

You are using it, you just dont know how to use it. So we're explaining it to you.

[bold oyster]

Yeah it’s not your fault

[pallid fulcrum]

whats up my dude adhara hows leveling going

[bold oyster]

Your friend fucked up

[foggy coyote]

@pallid fulcrum well my dwarf hunter is 53 purely through dailies with Ashlei lol

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm really not riled at all, more confused because we were just elaborating and then she has to snap and be toxically defensive 😂

well not bad

[tight elbow]

That is her typical behavior sadly.

[foggy coyote]

friend and I are trying something else, I just gotta chill in Maldraxxus to see if that works

[pallid fulcrum]

Seeking offense really is as toxic as seeking to offend, idk how people don't recognize that

[tight elbow]

Yup. People seem to believe that being offended somehow makes them right and righteous, giving them some level of authority.

[bold oyster]

Don’t think anything’s gonna work, seems like everything’s working as usual

[ionic fractal]

Okay. I'm doing the Maghar Orcs.... but I really need help taking the Echo of Garrosh Hellscream. It won't let anyone who's already completed it into the scenario and I keep dying

[pallid fulcrum]

Your friend is effectively at endgame level 60 content within the zones, and you're in a separate phase and system ruleset for the leveling campaign. Sitting there in Maldraxxus on your character will only keep you in that separate phase

[ionic fractal]

I've asked for help on the Orgrimmar chat on the server, even from my guild but I'm not getting anywhere

[foggy coyote]

well then there's not much point in playing WoW and I'll just go back to ESO I guess

[tight elbow]

? How are you dying? owo It was super duper easy. Just dodge the big spinning balls.

Also, I dont think people can join you

[bold oyster]

Basically you’re in different lanes, and you can’t change that

[pallid fulcrum]

Just finish leveling via the leveling campaign, and then you can play with everyone else.

[cobalt flint]

Sorry, you will have to do it on your own. Learn how to avoid attacks.

[pallid fulcrum]

You have to play the game if you want to play the game

[ionic fractal]

I'm a rogue,I don't have much in the way of healing. I'm dodging his whirlwind okay, but it's the big dragon fire thing that's killing me

[tight elbow]

Dodge it

[pallid fulcrum]

Yeah, that's what we were saying

[prime elbow]

You do you, just because you dont wanna play solo or even reroll for the same effect... Just remember what we said, next time you get in a similar situation.

[tight elbow]

Also, CRIMSON VIAL

[ionic fractal]

Even with the healing potions I have, there's still a 5 min cool down

[pallid fulcrum]

bUt ThAt DoEsN't BoOsT mY dPs

[ionic fractal]

Won't let anyone help, huh.

[prime elbow]

you have [feint], right? @ionic fractal

[forest lily]

Feint - https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1966/feint - Live 9.0.5

Feint

Live 9.0.5

[ionic fractal]

Yeah, didn't realize the aoe effect of it though

[pallid fulcrum]

It's on the tooltip

[prime elbow]

yeah, just try to time it before the attack hits and you should be fine.

[pallid fulcrum]

Or don't get hit 🤷

[foggy coyote]

apparently "elite" doesn't mean anything in Maldraxxus because those creatures were more soloable than I thought. unfortunately the arena is sensory overload hell

[tight elbow]

But moving doesnt boost my dps

[foggy coyote]

still gonna try some stuff

[foggy whale]

stand in fire for more dps

[pallid fulcrum]

You should focus on questing with the story campaign to finish leveling your character

[foggy coyote]

eyetwitch

[tight elbow]

That was unironically how Warriors tanked in MoP

[foggy coyote]

there's no way to skip Maldraxxus, is there?

[bold oyster]

No

[pallid fulcrum]

By questing through the story campaign

[tight elbow]

No

[bold oyster]

Unless threads

[foggy coyote]

well that sucks lol

[foggy whale]

I miss it so much

Helped healer parses too

[pallid fulcrum]

If you want to play the game you have to play the game 🤷

[prime elbow]

its the same deal with every single new expansion. Im surprised that you still haven't learned it by now.

[bold oyster]

Think they’re newish

[foggy coyote]

there's plenty of other stuff in the game I enjoy and that's what I usually spend my time doing. I can understand "you can't have dessert if you don't finish your meat and vegetables", but this is more like "you can't have arcane crystals if you don't finish your quinoa" when I'm not really interested in arcane crystals OR quinoa

[bold oyster]

But yeah thems the breaks

[pallid fulcrum]

whats quinoa

[prime elbow]

fake meat.

[foggy coyote]

I preordered the game, I enjoyed all the other expansions, I just…feel let down by this one? I'm not sure how else to describe it. Maybe I got too hyped and it was bound to never live up to my expectations.

[tight elbow]

Hipster rice

[pallid fulcrum]

ah those "vegans" okok

[pallid fulcrum]

You haven't even gotten to endgame so your criticism is subjective and moot

[ionic fractal]

Well got a little further this time

Dodging the machines of war is just real tough

[foggy coyote]

I mean at this point do I even need to do endgame, when I've already heard everything there is to know about covenants and Torghast

[tight elbow]

Yee. It has the consistency of over boiled couscous

[bold oyster]

Cause yknow experiencing it

[pallid fulcrum]

If you want to play the game then you have to play the game

You haven't even finished the second zone of the leveling campaign

[foggy whale]

quinoa kinda goes hard

[pallid fulcrum]

do be slaps?

[ionic fractal]

Don't think ima be able to do this as a rogue T_T

[foggy coyote]

HOW DO I MAKE VOLE STOP YELLING?

oops sorry caps

[pallid fulcrum]

whos vole

and why he yelling

[pallid fulcrum]

You can. You might just be undergeared. You can always reattempt it later

[bold oyster]

No idea where you are

He’s a maldy dude

[pallid fulcrum]

If you're too squishy, the simple answer is always just improve

[ionic fractal]

Yeah, maybe

[pallid fulcrum]

i dont need sleep i need answers. whos vole and why he yelling

@foggy coyote FYI: even if you do level to 60 with a method other than the leveling campaign, you still need to complete the campaign through Revendreth to unlock everything and even join your first covenant

[foggy coyote]

the Grandmaster who wanted me to go into sensory-overload-hell-arena-with-FPS-of-20

[prime elbow]

you mean the arena?

[foggy whale]

ohhh the intro to maldraxxus

[pallid fulcrum]

lmao wait you're literally in the first part of Maldraxxus still?

[prime elbow]

yeah, that's like.... the very first thing you do in maldraxxus

[pallid fulcrum]

Dial down your settings then

[foggy coyote]

Will that make mobs stop constantly spawning and the Grandmaster stop yelling?

[prime elbow]

On one hand, i do agree that the dragon mob is loud af when he swoops over the arena, both outside and inside, if you stand close to the area where his ghosts does their aoe...

[pallid fulcrum]

You have to complete the quests to move on to the next quests

[pallid fulcrum]

True, but sound is always something you can fix with a setting change

[foggy coyote]

Yeah that might not be happening, at least not today. I've done trials in ESO that were less overstimulating than this

[bold oyster]

Cool

[pallid fulcrum]

Mmm, I think the issues you're having might be PEBKAC-related then

[foggy coyote]

Ah, so you think autism is a "problem", how enlightened of you

[bold oyster]

No, but you’re making mistakes

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm a social worker and regularly care for the autistic. Put that card back in the deck.

HOLY SHIT GUMBALL JUST DREW EXODIA

[prime elbow]

Excuse me then for having Asbergers...

[foggy coyote]

Getting sensory overload from too much happening in a video game is a "mistake"? What?

[bold oyster]

Okay sorry I misinterpreted

[pallid fulcrum]

I've kept people suffering from autism from being wrongfully killed by the police so I don't wanna hear your crybaby nonsense 🤣

[foggy coyote]

My hands are too cold to smash keys fast enough, and that just confuses me because it's literally 80 degrees in my living room

[prime elbow]

How's that the games fault?

[pallid fulcrum]

The game has plenty of warnings and even accessibility settings that you can control to affect your level of input.

[prime elbow]

Just sounds to me you want to have reasons to stop playing the game. If you dont wanna play, then just dont.

[pallid fulcrum]

The tools for adapting to your own preferences and conditions are available.

@tight elbow im sleepy can i get some inspirational quotes

[tight elbow]

What I'm hearing is:
"It's everything elses fault and not mine. I have Autism, you can't criticize me,"

[pallid fulcrum]

"If you believe, you can succeed -- unless you're a head of broccoli."

Im going on from 3 hours of sleep from last night. thank u gumball ❤️

[bold oyster]

This is wowhelp, not the judgeplace of judgewhatever

[tight elbow]

"As quickly as you can, snatch the pebble from my hand. Hehe, great! Now, see if you can find where I hid the other pebble,"

[pallid fulcrum]

Now that just got me ___. ❤️

whatever your mind entails put into that box

[tight elbow]

[pallid fulcrum]

Man, people try to help but there are also those who don't want help

[foggy coyote]

Incorrect again but that's pretty standard for you

[pallid fulcrum]

Baifeng can be pretty pants-on-head about stuff but this was all going perfectly civil until you escalated the situation by taking out your frustrations on everyone around you and erroneously striking at things

[bold oyster]

No ones going to have some grand personal revelation from a Discord conversation so this arguing is pointless

[tight elbow]

[pallid fulcrum]

Not trying to make an argument, mostly trying to point out behavior

There are times when people have to recognize that they're the problem and need to be held accountable for their behavior.

[prime elbow]

I was gonna comment, but at this point, its just too late here to care anymore...

[pallid fulcrum]

I'm just hyped because I can clock out and game soon ❤️

[pallid fulcrum]

my boy

[blissful cypress]

I wanna join a mythic group but I have no idea what these fucking numbers mean

15+ 7+ PLUS PLUS I literally don't know

[keen pewter]

it's the difficulty level

[foggy coyote]

i see they removed the ability to submit feedback/bugs in-game

[spare oar]

uh

no they didnt

they removed the old UI thing that linked to the forum

[foggy coyote]

mythic keystone shit was when blizz decided "if you want to be a REAL WoW player you better devote 80 hours of play per week"

[spare oar]

but the newer ingame buttons have always only been on the testing client

[foggy coyote]

No they didn't, I clicked a link and was redirected to the forum. There was no option to submit a ticket.

[spare oar]

yeah - thats been gone for almost 2+ years

[blissful cypress]

oooh no

[spare oar]

they just removed the menu option b/c it led to a page telling you to use the forum

tickets dont lead to bug fixes b/c the people dealing with tickets dont interact with the bug fix team

so they stopped it

[pallid fulcrum]

How so? Have you tried the concept out and have enough information to back your claim?

[foggy coyote]

they just threw in all this extra grindy stuff with no in-game explanation and we're all just supposed to know, like I'm sorry, I am not in a hivemind with Hazzikostas or Danuser

[foggy coyote]

I swear there used to be a "submit bugs here!" thing

but it doesn't matter, I just posted on the forums

[spare oar]

right before shadowlands, there was a button that linked to the forums

but its now on the help page instead of in game

[foggy coyote]

no idea if anyone's gonna see it but that's about all I can do, right?

[pallid fulcrum]

They're the different difficulty levels for the mythic keystones. The higher the number, the higher the difficulty multiplier. Higher numbers can also have additional affixes that vary per patch and per week, providing additional challenges for greater rewards

[spare oar]

are you trying to report the maldraxxus intro arena as a bug?

its literally face-rollable

you can practically look away and succeed

[foggy coyote]

no, I was trying to tell them "Arms for the Poor" is badly designed and only the weapons should sparkle, because it's annoying to have all the NPCs also sparkle and it made the quest take twice as long as it should have

that should be an easy fix

[spare oar]

if you are dealing with sensory overload, turn down the particle settings, and turn off sounds

[pallid fulcrum]

You can change these settings. They're not bugs

[spare oar]

pretty sure the npcs only sparkle on the lower outline setting

turn the outline setting to high

it changes the sparkle to an outline

[foggy coyote]

the outline setting they introduced in WoD? that I turned off because it was annoying?

[pallid fulcrum]

Thats a hefty fix. Implementing a hot fix could crash the server. Is it worth ruining the fun of other players to fix that bug?

[bold oyster]

It's frustrating but both the weapons and the scavengers are quest items so what are you gonna do?

[pallid fulcrum]

That's what's great about it; you can fix this yourself with settings changes

[foggy coyote]

i'm sure they're not going to put in a hotfix while the game is running

they have weekly maintenance for a reason

[bold oyster]

I mean if they coudl it'd be nice if they could only make the boys sparkle if you have a charge of weapons

[spare oar]

so - you disabled the setting, and clearly didnt read the text that tells you to pick ujp the weapons first

its honestly a bit difficult to do

[foggy coyote]

I don't think you understand what I'm saying

[bold oyster]

I mean I did the quest, and I agree that it's a bit badly designed

[foggy coyote]

but I'm out, I got D&D tonight

[spare oar]

the way their quest checks work doesnt really allow for that

they would have to redesign the quest to be in 2 stages

one where you get the weapons

[bold oyster]

You keep looking for the sparkles and it's just not the shit you're looking for

[spare oar]

and one where you hand them out

[pallid fulcrum]

"people aren't telling me what I want to hear so I'm leaving"

[bold oyster]

And then your questing brain malfunctions

[pallid fulcrum]

Listening to vivaldi and looking at what ur typing bro is hella funny

[pallid fulcrum]

Damn straight

@blissful cypress https://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keystones-and-dungeons-guide

This is an in-depth guide about what mythic dungeons are and whatnot. The preview says BFA but it has updated info for live

[lucid scarab]

hey guys , do you thing enchanting is a good prfession ?

[pallid fulcrum]

Yes

[lucid scarab]

fantastic, thanks man

[quaint pike]

im trying to get [Belt of the Shattered Abyss], to buy it i need 100k artifact power in LEGION, i dont think i can get artifact power no more does that mean the set is impossible to complete ?

[forest lily]

Belt of the Shattered Abyss - https://www.wowhead.com/item=139721/belt-of-the-shattered-abyss - Live 9.0.5

Belt of the Shattered Abyss

Live 9.0.5

[hardy swan]

do you guys know what's selling the highest for skinners/gatherers rn?

[keen pewter]

yeah the

what's it called

the rare one

name's scaping lmao

[jaunty tiger]

So, if i have [Denying the Drought] achievement, how do i see how it is effecting my Anima gain? World bosses are still only dropping 250 anima

[forest lily]

Heart of the Forest: Guide to the Night Fae Covenant Sanctum - https://www.wowhead.com/guide=10634/heart-of-the-forest-guide-to-the-night-fae-covenant-sanctum - Live 9.0.5

Heart of the Forest: Guide to the Night Fae Covenant Sanctum

Live 9.0.5

[narrow laurel]

is there any cannon animals that dark rangers use? i want to have a dark ranger vibes for my elf

[foggy coyote]

Okay D&D is over and I want to apologise for getting defensive, it’s a flaw of mine and I’m working on it

Unfortunately there isn’t really anywhere else I can ask questions and be answered in a reasonable amount of time, otherwise I’d leave

I love the Wowhead site and I want to support it, hence why I throw money at them every month for a fancy name colour

There are many genuinely helpful people here but it’s also a large enough server that inevitably some people are gonna be like “hey this person made a faux pas/didn’t express themselves with cold logic and perfect articulation, let’s bully them”

[pallid fulcrum]

Mostly the same animals you'd see living blood elf rangers using. Dragonhawks and birds of prey, ideally, to go with their avian vibes, but any and all of the undead animal choices could work as well

The dark rangers are after all either former rangers of Quel'Thalas, or one of the new generations of Lordaeroni Forsaken trained by Nathanos Blightcaller

[lunar bane]

this common ?

[pallid fulcrum]

If you're working on your attitude like you're saying, attaching passive-aggressive commentary like this completely invalidates your apology and any intent of one

[pallid fulcrum]

If you have war mode on, yes. That's more or less a choke point where people are regularly coming and going, making players who are either unaware or too complacent or caught in a loading screen easy targets

@lunar bane also, unrelated side tip: open the game menu and pull up your interface settings. Under the action bars option, there are four additional action bars you can enable

[lunar bane]

alright thank you

i just thought it was weird

[pallid fulcrum]

Nah, it's a choke point for easy kills. Any place like that is going to get clogged up with bodies in pvp

[tight elbow]

Its 500 gold at the vendor

[pallid fulcrum]

@ℌ𝔢𝔩𝔩ℭ𝔞𝔱#0841 Baifeng is right. You only need to meet the achievement requirements for certain pieces of gear. Just by what you can with gold from the vendor in your Order Hall

@tight elbow Oh shit they're not even in the server anymore

[mild trench]

for alchemy specifically outlands how do discoverys work. can i just keep making potions and discover stuff or is it like every 24 hours you can discover something new?

[pallid fulcrum]

It's just RNG

You get a chance for a discovery every time you craft

[mild trench]

ok ty

[pallid fulcrum]

how much gold is a ilvl 184 set?

to get me started in sl

[spare oar]

you should just do WQs

you will struggle to find a full set

[pallid fulcrum]

World quests?

[spare oar]

and itll cost a fortune

yes

[pallid fulcrum]

ye i just checked ah there are like 2 ilvl 200 pieces thats it

and they re 30k per

so nah

[coral rampart]

just do normal/heroic dungs

dont buy trash off AH

[pallid fulcrum]

how do i make my bars less transparent

in elvui

[coral rampart]

in elvui options

let me check

sec

what do you mean less transparent ? there is option to make them transparent they arent "transparent" by default just glassy

[pallid fulcrum]

if i spin my camera too fast with left click or right click, my camera starts spinning really fast, cant find any fixes (WOTLK)

[coral rampart]

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/000014597

[pallid fulcrum]

since its wotlk theres less options

unless im missing something

Fixed it, had to enable vsync and triple buffering

[cobalt flint]

We don't talk about private servers here

[pallid fulcrum]

What did i walk into

And why is the FBI knocking on my door

[clear geyser]

Is there a way to have an additional action bar besides the first two?

[polar wasp]

yes,there's 2 extra by default in the game

it's "extra action bar 1 and 2" in the same settings page where you turned on the first one

if you want EVEN MORE,i'd suggest using bartender or ElvUI or similar UI addon

[cobalt flint]

Esc -> Interface

[final canyon]

So I made a new charakter a hunter. And I got to learn about rares. So now Im in shadowflen area trying to hunt down the 5 rares there. I found blackmoss the fetid and I tried to tame him but suprigsingly that cant be done so what do I need to do in order to tame him? I got some quest that I think I finished then what?

I tried googleing but cant find anything usefull

[polar wasp]

hunters can only tame beasts or beast looking enemies

[cobalt flint]

@final canyon You can't tame Blackmoss. It's not a beast.

Most rares are meant to be killed for loot.

[clear geyser]

Nice! Thank you. I feel like a pro now with all these slots haha

[final canyon]

Ahaaaa

This was what confused me

That person was a bit clumpsy writeing that article then

Cuze I seatched "rare hunter pets" this artivle showed up and when it was written like that I just asumed all of those 5 elites in that area was tamable ok then thats sad.

Well is there anything like a bit more rare hunter pets?

[clear geyser]

Numbers for cooldown was also a cool spot

[final canyon]

Cuze im really into the hunters pets and also battle pets does any of theese 2 categories have "rare/legendary" like 1 single cool one in a area that is harder to find or something

Or maby one thats only sold by some special npc

[polar wasp]

i think so but i dont know much about them

[final canyon]

Hey wait a second I googled more guides atleast duskstalker seems to be a hunter pet tamable.

But then why was he in a list with about 5 others if all of them arent tamable

Can I send this list here to ask someone if they know if anymore on that list are tamable or if its just duskstalker?

Maby he was on that list for the loot?? Idk.

Are we alowed to post links to other pages here? Its an article about wow.

[polar wasp]

duskstalker is a white cat,
the list was just the "all rares in this zone" list

[fathom solar]

Unprompted? No

[pallid fulcrum]

Ooo, Sas has a new profile picture. Nice.

[final canyon]

What does unpromted mean? @sas148

@fathom solar

So we cant post any usefull guides that help us in wow here?
But another player gave me a link yesterday does that mean she had asked a mod of premishion.

?

Also I have another question how does expansions work I mean I know theres like 7 expansions, I started 2 days ago do I have to buy all of those 7 to unlock everything or are all those old ones like included in the current wow? Cuze I can't srem to find anywhere to buy them all I find is Shadowlands.

[coral rampart]

with simple 30day sub you can go anywhere in past 6 expansions do anything .. up to level 50

shadowlands is newest expansion

50-60 so you cant play anything above 50 without shadowlands

[foggy coyote]

Sorry, passive-aggressive was not my intent, but it's good to know. I seem to misinterpret comments from NTs as passive-aggressive so it stands to reason I would say things that I don't mean that way but they come off differently. What would have been a better way to phrase it?

[agile lagoon]

"Thank you for the help."

ez pz

[pallid fulcrum]

ooh new pfp glyph

[agile lagoon]

Yea, played some mk this past weekend and wanted to change it

[foggy coyote]

Unfortunately I didn't really get help with the issue I had yesterday. "You're screwed, there's no way to fix that" is not helpful.

[pallid fulcrum]

Sometimes even as strong as the wowhead discord can't resolve issues as specific as yours was. Unfortunate is all i can say. We tried, we failed and we go forward on!

[agile lagoon]

The issue with the sparkles? (Sorry if not, I didn't read the whole ordeal)

But like other people said blizzard isn't gonna risk the game for one specific bug

[prime elbow]

Would you rather that we lied and said that we could fix it for you? @foggy coyote

[agile lagoon]

And saying "thank you" even if you didn't get help with the issue but just got more info about the issue is just basic courtesy.

[foggy coyote]

Thanks for at least phrasing it professionally instead of attacking me.

[tight elbow]

Like you attack others uwu

[pallid fulcrum]

You apologised and you had the common courtesy to ask for advice on working on your attitude. I got nothing personal against anyone but fire meets fire and water meets water

[pallid fulcrum]

bai starting off strong this morning i see

[agile lagoon]

Gotta start somewhere

[pallid fulcrum]

bai got good in her heart its just that she doesnt forget 😱

[tight elbow]

[agile lagoon]

Where are you now?

[coral rampart]

drop the q try again ?

idk if you can enter again

this is why u do queue dungeons when doing intro

try going to portal room

and maybe talk to dude bellow

[agile lagoon]

Don't*

[cobalt flint]

Try going through the Dark Portal. It should skip the intro and put you right before the garrison setup.

[coral rampart]

try dropping the quest and talk to chromie again

pick another timeline

and then pick wod again

[agile lagoon]

?

[coral rampart]

you dont go thro portal

you talk to

kadghar

or someone at portal

[cobalt flint]

Why not? It's in the Blasted Lands.

[agile lagoon]

You don't have a portal to the badlands or wherever?

[coral rampart]

in portal room there is dude

you talk to

to port you on map where dark portal is

[cobalt flint]

You learn riding at level 10.

From the riding trainer.

[agile lagoon]

Click the blasted lands portal

[coral rampart]

lmao 3 ppl with different suggestions

if you in ogrimmar learn riding first

then try the portal tactic go to portal room bottom floor and talk to npc to get you to blasted lands

then try going thro portal or talk to kadghar

if that fails

go back to ogrimmar

do the chromie shit

bottom floor when you enter portal room

there should be stairs somewhere at entrance

on the left

[cobalt flint]

@coral rampart Normally, you can walk through the Dark Portal without talking to Khadgar to skip the WoD intro (provided you don't have the quest). Not sure if you can talk to Khadgar to restart the intro or resume it where you dropped off, but skipping will most likely still work.

[coral rampart]

infront of shatarah there is npc

you can talk to him to take you to blasted lands

[cobalt flint]

The Shattrath portal is for Outland, not Draenor.

[coral rampart]

inside PORTAL ROOM near the shattarah portal there is npc

you can talk to

[agile lagoon]

Other draenor lol

[coral rampart]

you dont go thro portal

you talk to the guy to tp you outside blasted lands

it takes you to blasted lands

and then you walk to to portal manualy

that should work

[cobalt flint]

(Or just ask some mage to put up a portal to Stonard and ride from there)

Maybe disabling Chromie Time and then enabling the Draenor timeline again will work too.

[coral rampart]

dont queue dungeon 😛

[cobalt flint]

At least not until you get your Garrison Hearthstone

[agile lagoon]

Until after you fimish

Not rly a bug lol

[cobalt flint]

So basically:
Option 1: talk to every single NPC in both portal rooms in the hopes of one actually offering you the teleport to Blasted Lands
Option 2: Ask a mage in Orgrimmar to put up a portal to Stonard for you that you can use.
Option 3: Take the Zeppelin to Grom'gol and ride from there
Option 4: Take the portal to Ashran and ride all around Draenor to your Garrison location (not recomended if you don't have water walking)

Option 5: Just go to a different expansion, and options 3 and 4 will become more feasible with flying that you get at level 30.

[coral rampart]

did you blow the portal on your intro quest ?

if you didint blow the portal

you can still walk thro

but if the portal is rekt

you should write ticket that you are STUCK

so GM can port you back

if the portal is red you can walk thro

[cobalt flint]

Haven't thought about the possibility of the portal having been blown up. But that still leaves option 4 as a solution.

[coral rampart]

going to ashran is a mistake

it can fuck you up later

[cobalt flint]

How exactly?

[coral rampart]

ive read that ppl cant use portals

[cobalt flint]

The portal from Ashran to Orgrimmar requires level 15 to use, despite being able to use the portal in the other direction at level 10. I'm not aware of other issues.

[tight elbow]

You can, its in the Blasted Lands on the Eastern Kingdoms

@pallid fulcrum Are you a new player?

[silver solstice]

Hey there, Is there a way to run Black Rock Depths dungeon on a free to play account?

[bold oyster]

Should I be doing the Shadowlands side quests?

Or just the campaign?

[tight elbow]

Don't think trials can do dungeons

[tight elbow]

Both

[prime elbow]

They can do some dungeons, but only those that have a minimum base level below 20

[silver solstice]

I coul run Atar and Freefall dungeons, sorry i forgot the names

But i need to do BRD dungeon for a paladin quest

[cobalt flint]

Without Chromie Time, free accounts are limited to Freehold and Atal'Dazar only.

[silver solstice]

Dang, okies

Thanks for the heads up

[cobalt flint]

What enemies do you see surrounding the portal? Demons or orcs?

[agile lagoon]

The portal to the blasted lands is always open lol

[bold oyster]

For gear? Think I’m good on levels

[tight elbow]

Ah, you never said you were going for gear

[cobalt flint]

Portal to Blasted Lands? I don't remember it being a thing. An NPC can teleport you there if you are on a quest, but that's the maximum that I am sure of.

[bold oyster]

I just think I might be able to get to 60 with only campaign

But idk

I’m like early maldy with 55

[foggy coyote]

thought you had me on /ignore 🤔

[tight elbow]

I was too when I lvld, I think I did a couple side quests in Ardenweald cause I hit a small wall

[bold oyster]

So the gear isn’t important?

It’s just levels?

[pallid fulcrum]

You will get to 60 on 7/9 chapters in revendreth

[tight elbow]

I mean, it wasn't for me. I was like 140+ going into SL so I didn't start replacing gear until Revendreth at the earliest

[bold oyster]

I don’t have such optimized great

Gear

[agile lagoon]

Yea, talk to the guy is what I mean

[agile lagoon]

I'm on 2/7 in mal at lvl 57 lol

[pallid fulcrum]

Oh wow u doing all the sidequest wth

[agile lagoon]

Actually very few, idk how but I'm just super leveled from the story lol

[bold oyster]

I’m at 2/7 in mald with level 55 and ilvl 100

[agile lagoon]

I did do 2 extra runs of pf which gave me about 1 and 3/4 a lvl

[bold oyster]

But should I be doing sidequests asking with the campaign?

[high pawn]

Hey I just started playing again but I was wondering why are peoples characters level 60 when doing plague fall is there a level cap or something?

[bold oyster]

Yeah it’s 60

[agile lagoon]

Max level is 60

[agile lagoon]

I'd recommend it for story purposes but if you know the story then don't bother tbh

[bold oyster]

Ok

[high pawn]

I thought max level was 120 is it if you don’t have the expansions or something?

[bold oyster]

Well I don’t and the gear is sometimes good so I’ll do it

No it’s 50

[agile lagoon]

Nope if you don't have SL its 50

[bold oyster]

Level squish

[high pawn]

Oh dang

[waxen bough]

used to be but there was a level crunch

[high pawn]

What did people think of that level squish that’s bigger than I thought happened lmao

[waxen bough]

it kinda annoyed me but honestly for a lot of the high level players it didnt really make much of a difference

because all the raids and bosses n stuff were level crunched too if im correct

[cobalt flint]

@high pawn Level is just a number. What matters is how long it takes to reach the max and how strong you are in relation to the mobs.

[waxen bough]

^^

[high pawn]

Ok thanks for the help

[agile lagoon]

It doesn't rly make a difference. Scaling is a bit wonk but overall just smaller numbers

[prime elbow]

some % of the veterans was obv a bit upset, but not too bad

[bold oyster]

At least I feel a little bit closer to the big boys

130 is pretty damn large

[narrow laurel]

is Sundancer can be killed once a day or it can be killed withotu summoning and with summoning?

[tight elbow]

I loved the squish. 120 levels was ridiculous.

[lost lichen]

i have no idea where i am

i took a portal from zandalar to a place that was in burning crusade then clicked a gear icon thingy and i forgot to read what it would take my too and now im in some random forest thats burning and there are no portals in sight

[agile lagoon]

Click m

[lost lichen]

im in the eastern kingdoms

tirisfal glades

bfa

what do i do

how do i get back

[pallid fulcrum]

Hot take. Wish it was 240 so leveling an alt took about 25 days so every day is a journey

[cobalt flint]

@lost lichen Do you remember how you got there in the first place? Do you have your hearthstone in your bag?

[lost lichen]

i put that in the bank, im so retarded

i was in zandalar and i took one of the portals

then i was in some other place and i went in the back of it up a staircase and took another portal

and now im in the eastern kingdoms

im in brill rn

[cobalt flint]

Is the town of Brill destroyed or not?

[lost lichen]

no

thres still people in brill and its not destroyed but there isnt any bankers around

i asked one of the guards

[cobalt flint]

There should be two towers to the south of Brill.

Climb on the eastern one. There should be two planks at the top. One has the portal to Stranglethorn, the other the portal to Orgrimmar. Pick the Orgrimmar one.

[lost lichen]

oh my god your a life saver

but im in another room with a bunch of portals

nvm found my portal

you are literally the best

@cobalt flint

[cobalt flint]

You're welcome

[foggy coyote]

I acknowledge what you're saying about particle effects, and sounds to an extent, but everywhere I've been in Maldraxxus has been a "target-rich environment" where stuff endlessly spawns gauntlet-style and I wish there were a way to just make less stuff spawn. Unfortunately WoW isn't like the single-player TES games where I can set the difficulty, so I might end up just skipping Maldraxxus, which means…not doing the rest of SL.

[agile lagoon]

How does changing the difficulty matter when it comes to particle fx?

[foggy coyote]

This is why I tend to fall into the pattern of "oh I should do current content instead of rehashing old stuff. Wait, now I remember why I stopped doing it. Oh well, back to old raids for mogs and pet battles."

The spell effects aren't what give me sensory overload, it's the fact there are 300 mobs on my screen and all of them are doing stuff

[agile lagoon]

Lower your graphics

[bold oyster]

I think they’re saying the graphics aren’t the problem

It’s having a ton of mobs

[foggy coyote]

If they were like, swarming scarabs and I could just Arcane Explosion as I go and one-shot them all, that would be different. But yesterday was "here are a bunch of things at regular strength AND ALSO random elites and you have to fight all of them with no breather between"

It's not exactly a gameplay style I enjoy when I'm in a good headspace, let alone already frustrated.

[agile lagoon]

Yea so lower graphics so the PC can process better

[foggy coyote]

So it's looking more and more like the solution, for me, is "just ignore current content like I've been doing"

[agile lagoon]

Ok then do that

[bold oyster]

I mean can’t really help you too much

If you can’t deal with it, then you just can’t

[foggy coyote]

Which is unfortunate because there was a lot I was really looking forward to in SL.

[cobalt flint]

@foggy coyote I'm not sure if I understand. Do you have framerate issues? If so, does your computer meet the minimum system requirements?

[bold oyster]

No I think she’s just being overstimulated by all the kids

[foggy coyote]

Sometimes framerate issues, yes. My computer isn't exactly top-of-the-line, but it runs the game just fine. The problem is gauntlets

[bold oyster]

Mobs

Damn

[cobalt flint]

So you just encounter more enemies than you can handle at once?

[agile lagoon]

So if I'm reading this right, your complaining about stuff, when you have been given the solution yet you ignore it, and complain more?

[foggy coyote]

I'm less complaining at this point and more just venting. "I wanted to enjoy this, I can't, it sucks. I'll go back to playing Oblivion."

[agile lagoon]

I mean you can enjoy it but you refuse to do what's necessary

So.. Go play oblivion then

[foggy coyote]

"Do what's necessary" is not play WoW, I'm not sure what your misunderstanding is.

[agile lagoon]

Kek sure

[foggy coyote]

I can put my computer on potato graphics but that won't make fewer things attack me.

[agile lagoon]

So your complaining on the amount of mobs attacking you?

If so then my bad but that's how the game was made and nobody else cares. Yea they attack you. So what? Just keep going

[neon cedar]

you finally figured it out?

[agile lagoon]

If that's an issue go play animal crossing or something

[agile lagoon]

Yea took me a moment lol

[pallid fulcrum]

Her problem glyph is overstimulation by the amount of mobs on screen. To you and me seeing 20 mobs isnt an issue. To someone who has a problem of sensory overload is. Its not a problem of graphics or highlights its just a problem of oversaturating the person and thus making it extremely hard to focus which results in death

I understand adsaharas issue but the way to resolve it is difficult if not impossible

[agile lagoon]

I don't see how this doesn't fix it but ok

Look away or smth

[pallid fulcrum]

If it were as simple as that haha

[bold oyster]

I think the point is they can’t block it out

[neon cedar]

@foggy coyote do you have a friend you can quest with? that might be one way to help

[pallid fulcrum]

I must admit things wouldnt get better later on with gauntlets. The shadowlands was designed as a grand scheme of the battle of the armies against jailor and the later on content does have the same style of play as the one you are now experiencing the gameplay. It is unfortunate in your case but thats how the lore is going and hence how the game was designed

[agile lagoon]

Yea torghast is gonna suck

[pallid fulcrum]

Wish there was more that could be done but the game catered to people who want to see this grand design and whenever theres a pinacle of the story so does everything fit to scale. Really sorry you are dealing with that and if there truly was a way to fix it chances are somebody would have found it by now. I know its not an answer you want to hear but its just the truth

[foggy coyote]

Yeah, I was questing with 2 of my friends yesterday but since both of them are on ToF I was phased separately for the entire beginning of Maldraxxus, so we could talk in party chat but they weren't able to help me fight stuff

[tight elbow]

[neon cedar]

yeah they would need to be using campaign too. IDK if party sync would help, but i'm guessing not

[pallid fulcrum]

I mean id take u with me to level so it wouldnt be boring 😳 😍

[agile lagoon]

Baifeng is the best lvling partner

[foggy coyote]

Party sync helps some places but not in semi-scenario places like the Maldraxxus intro. They unphased for me a bit later and could help out, but then we re-phased again later on. (Also there was an active WQ in the Maldraxxus intro area so they were both locked into that)

And one of them hates Bastion with a burning passion so it wouldn't be fair to ask him to level a new non-ToF character, I don't force my friends to do stuff they hate lol

[prime elbow]

Well, you should... I mean, it sounds to me like he is forcing you to level in Maldraxxus with him, even tho he should know that you arent on the same path...

[tight elbow]

@agile lagoon

[neon cedar]

wouldn't you have to wait for Baifeng to read all the quests again though 🤔 😛

[tight elbow]

Cx

I skim quest text. I watch Nobbel videos for the indepth stuff

[prime elbow]

how dare you not use Immersion for questing?!

[agile lagoon]

Every xpac is you against an army. TBC was the burning legion, wotlk was the scourge, cata was you against the dragons and old gods, panda land was you against the garrosh horde, legion was more demons, BFA was more old gods

[tight elbow]

She's on the campaign. She can't skip it unfortunately. What she should do, is stop venting here and just power thru it and never return to the zone