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#wow-help
idle bison
restive stump
what the f is that big ass dragon
glad hemlock
that dragon is Taregosa, and is a questline for mages to get a legendary staff that requires weeks if not months of grinding
glad hemlock
It's a level 80 staff
no
the only reason people get it is vanity (it's a completely unique appearance AND has a mount specifcally for mages)
glad hemlock
if you want to turn into a blue dragon as a mage and are willing to sacrifice months of grinding a raid, sure
but no, not worth it
modern herald
I mean... it's not just mage, but it's really just obtained for collection's sake, usually
restive stump
so its more of a flex if anything
glad hemlock
I thought only mages could take the quest
modern herald
restive stump
I was expecting something way.. grander seeing this giant fuckin dragon over SW
glad hemlock
no no
to get the quests
don't you have to be mage?
no
i'm mistaken
whoopsy daisy
modern herald
.. no, it's just a legendary staff
glad hemlock
sorry
modern herald
like Shadowmourne for STR melee dps
glad hemlock
I thought it was like the Fangs of the Father
high cloak
l think he means the daggers for Rouges from cata, the legendary
with the wrathion quest line n such^^
celest lance
wary kestrel
That happens to me infrequently. /reload.
toxic cave
How do I datamine?
spare oar
you wont get much help here
essentially visit wow.tools
theres a discord
then theres a guide in one of the channels, pinned
restive stump
Big question, so in the past whenever I played WoW, not alot admittedly, whenever I'd try progressing in the Blacksmithing/Mining profs it always felt kinda... Not worth it
Like what I would craft wasnt nearly as good as my gear from dungeons, and selling them didnt bring that much of a revenue
So uh, is it worth it to really max it out?
narrow plume
Need help with wowhead bot in my server any help ?
wary kestrel
Wrong place, go to #wowhead-feedback-support
narrow plume
I’ve asked already
modern herald
then be patient and wait for an answer
it doesn't help to ask again somewhere the question isn't relevant
narrow plume
Well having 10+ staff online lmao should be moving
modern herald
staff that's either datamining so they can make posts for the website, or if not, making sure site doesn't die randomly (or in case that it does, are ready to bring it up again ASAP)
spare oar
theyre busy datamining
you can either wait or you can not
you arent paying for their help
it isnt their job to help you
they do it because they want to
wary kestrel
today's life fact: nobody is ever indebted to your existence
narrow plume
Smh 🤦🏻♂️
modern herald
discord also has a search feature you can use to try and find an answer
restive stump
don't act this way, lmao, no need to act condescending, being polite isn't all that hard come on
modern herald
like, just do this and start looking
narrow plume
@restive stump bro u calm that being rude?
spare oar
yes
narrow plume
Smh ngl
spare oar
"Well having 10+ staff online lmao should be moving"
glad hemlock
this whole conversation
spare oar
thats rude af
glad hemlock
🤦♂️
restive stump
smh means you're shaking your head because of the interlocuter's stupidity
narrow plume
Lol
wary kestrel
this mans expects help lol
restive stump
so that's rude yeah
narrow plume
🤦🏻♂️
wary kestrel
when your only line is smh 🤦♂️perhaps don't expect people to get up to help you out of kindness
restive stump
yeah, you sound like you'Re trolling right now, c'mon
narrow plume
Just saying instead of dissing me y’all could of answer my question 🤷🏻♂️👀
restive stump
The reason its taking this long is because you're acting super rudely
wary kestrel
no, cause you ask like a tit
narrow plume
@modern herald I’ve done it not working
wary kestrel
modern herald
then re-try and figure out why it's not working, until it works, and you can look
narrow plume
All we
modern herald
otherwise, back to option #2: waiting
restive stump
yes, we, you're clearly the only one in a disagreement here
narrow plume
🤷🏻♂️ idk what u talking about disagreement but ok
wary kestrel
mhm. you've clearly shown yourself to be not deserving of help outta kindness, so get working or keep waiting
narrow plume
😂😂 kindness from u specially ?
restive stump
okay dude you're being so unecessarily confrontational, this isn't even the appropriate chat for anything you've said since the start
Imagine the people actually needing help stumbling onto this
About in-game related things*
wary kestrel
dude doesn't care, block and move on
restive stump
yeah, he's a Karen lmao, block time
noob question but
+8 strength,
+2 Stamina,
-16 versatility, for a ring, as a tank paladin
is that worth?
doesn't seem so
pallid fulcrum
whats the point of following the adventures guide if all the zones scale up until 60?
restive stump
yeah last time I played a couple months ago, ,maybe a year ago it didnt do that
pallid fulcrum
yeah like you cant really "outlevel" a zone so idk i think i can just stay in a zone until 60
old zinc
Because as you level you unlock the ability to start other places
Also like there's several other used to the guide, like bosses and such, so
restive stump
which is more fun but to be fair makes less sense
restive stump
wait that Panzer Dragoon remaster kinda lit tho
restive stump
So uh apart from that one guy on a horse selling you the Stormwind Satchel and the Mantle of Stormwind is there any other cool stuff about getting Exalted in Stormwind
glad hemlock
nope other than achivements
digital pewter
Does anybody ever get a black screen flash every time they tab in / out of wow
I'm not sure what's causing it, been happening for a while
pallid fulcrum
Can somebody help me ouit
Please?
I have a issue with my collections interface
If bought a mount but I have seriously no clue how to equip it
restive stump
So Im now lvl 62, and tbh... I wouldve expected a Prot. Palladin to have more... Y'know... Taunts? And AoE too? I know there's a talent at lvl 75 that can make my Divine Shield an AoE taunt but I wouldve expected a more reliable AoE taunt, and alot sooner
Unless maybe I missed something
restive stump
They're not really taunt tho?
stable hound
but your abilities generate threat
sand lava
Yeah tanks by default have higher threat gen on abilities
stable hound
hand of reconing is your taunt
restive stump
Because sometimes I'll Avenger's Shield and Consec wuite often in a row and my melee DPS sometimes will still pull more aggro
Also sometimes I'll taunt an ennemy and they seem to straight up ignore it for a good second or two
sand lava
To be fair, you are in a low level dungeon
restive stump
Also there's a dungeon I did, dont remember which one, the one with the really big Hydra, in some deserty place and the basic ennemies can just Polymorph me for like 6 seconds
sand lava
Welcome to old dungeon mechanics
restive stump
That one fucked me up
stable hound
thats healers and dps problem i think because healer should dispell and dps should interrupt
sand lava
That too
restive stump
Well most healers I get start pulling aggro alone without waiting for the party and then I have to heal them... In fact I tend to heal alot more than the healer
It feels like they tunnel vision on healing me
sand lava
Leave them to die
restive stump
So when an ally gets bursted they dare
Good thing I can heal for my entire HP bar... Also noticed 90% of the time Im the only one with a res
Or at least res'ing people
sand lava
Then youve been getting a lot of shit healers
restive stump
Uh well something I learned from League of Legends is you shouldnt blame allies but...
It def felt like that
Lmao
sand lava
If they aren’t doing their job as that spec then yes blame them
restive stump
Last time I called an healer out for pulling too much, because they pulled a patrol and got one shotted without the group, I just said "Hey you shouldn't pull mobs like that, you have like 1/5th of my HP bar"
And then they told me I was an asshole and tried to vote kick me
Didnt work and then they quit
Kek
stable hound
sometimes the wow community can be toxic
sand lava
Sometimes?
stable hound
most of the time
sand lava
You mean a lot of times
stable hound
theres a few good ones here and there
restive stump
I mean to be fair Im definitely not amazing or anything, Im new and its obvious, but I can usually handle myself and protect my party
pallid fulcrum
Yo can i get some help?
I have a issue with my mount
If bought a mount today but Idk how to open the tab
Shift+P doesnt work
sand lava
Collections
sand lava
Are you on a starter account?
pallid fulcrum
@sand lava Yeah im on a starter account
sand lava
If youre subbed then you could use it
restive stump
Right now my two biggest issues are that first, kinda new to WoW, well never had a lvl 60 char, even more new to MMOs in general I guess
So using all this
or at least trying to
is painful
tho I'm sure they're not binded optimally at all
or their placement
fleet plank
I use 1 2 3 4 5 then I switch to letters around wasd
It makes it easier for me at least
restive stump
Well see what Im learning to use is this...
Idk what people usually think of those
but yeah
sand lava
@pallid fulcrum if you just bought it it takes a few hours to register
fleet plank
Oh, that would confuse me but you do you lol
pallid fulcrum
@sand lava Looks dm
sand lava
??
fleet plank
If you change your account password it will refresh your account and it should change it from starter to subbed
pallid fulcrum
Accept my friendrequest Ill send u a screenshot
sand lava
Sorry no
pallid fulcrum
LOL
fleet plank
Or just wait like a day
pallid fulcrum
my paypal says its still pending
sand lava
Then youre not subbed then
restive stump
Another thing that feels kinda weird is, I guess more specifically a tank issue... it feels like, in dungeons, at least, the tank is kind of expected to know the path by heart,
I understand I'm supposed to lead the way but right now I often have to look behind to see of one of the party members isn't jumping, facing a different direction to show me something
sand lava
Yeah thats why people suggest not to start as a tank
fleet plank
Yeah, I wanted to make a brewmaster monk but I am still new to the game and tanks should know the mechanics and stuff
sand lava
Cause people will expect you to know dungeon layouts an such
restive stump
Like sometimes they're all behind me, looking at me in a "well lead the way" kinda way, and I'm just like... yeah uh they're 45 of them lmao
Most dungeons seem pretty simple
pallid fulcrum
@fleet plank if you level up then you will learn
pallid fulcrum
And by level up I mean 1-120 not 110-120
fleet plank
Yeah, for now I am playing a BM hunter to just learn the game and then once I feel confident I will probably make a tank later on
restive stump
but yeah, trying to use all my abilities correctly, and like... practicing my hand and fingers to play the game properly and use my spells I think will be my hardest task
pallid fulcrum
Tbh, if you just start doing dungeons from level 15 you can learn any class any spec
restive stump
also I'm pretty sure my spell placement in my action bar is unoptimized as fuck, basically never changed it
pallid fulcrum
cause dungeons are damn easy and you just have like 3 skills to use
fleet plank
I mean I will probably level one up during this xp boost but idk
pallid fulcrum
The roles have different mentality
fleet plank
Also is there an easy way to get marks if honor? I can’t really pvp that well with my super under geared demon hunter lol
restive stump
well right now, most of what I do is try to pull trash mob, if dangerous, away from patrols, and then... basically spam Avenger's Shield, Consecration, blessed hammer, judgement, taunt, stun when available, I heal myself or my allies when needed and sometimes I'm able to properly use some spells
but it's kinda sloppy
to say the least
on my part
pallid fulcrum
Whats the ilvl of your DH?
fleet plank
105, I dont have bfa yet either
restive stump
I think if I'm still hooked to the game at max lvl I'll get BFA
pallid fulcrum
Do you play EU or US?
fleet plank
But I thought battlegrounds just gave you regular honor? and I play us
pallid fulcrum
No theres Honor and Mark of Honor. You get both by doing pvp content
Mark of honor being a bit harder to get 🙂
fleet plank
Yeah I am trying to get the marks so I can get heirlooms
pallid fulcrum
You can get heirloom with gold
The vendor is in undercity for horde
and Iron forge for alliance
prime cave
unless you've started bfa, then itll be in orgrimmar for horde
also i think there are some in each major city
prime cave
i think 500 per armor peice and 750 for weapons
but thats only up to level 60
then its a bunch more for upgrades
fleet plank
is there an easy way to get gold for me right now?
pallid fulcrum
imo dont get into alt mentality
prime cave
doing emissaries works, or doing some WoD raids/skyreach for raw gold
i think alts are a good thing to dip into tbh
restive stump
Do you guys think it's worth rebinding the strafe left/strafe right (Q,E default) for spells? I basically never use them
prime cave
100%
sand lava
Rebind them yes
pallid fulcrum
I have rebinded A and D for strafe
prime cave
S is a good rebind too, no more backpeddling is a good habit
restive stump
Okay cool, since I'm used to playing league that'l make things alot easier and more natural for me
pallid fulcrum
Q E R T F V C S Z X are all good candidates for keybinding
You can also bind combinations like Shift+Q
restive stump
well right now for me it was, 1-12 (Use a 12 button mouse) and then CTRL+1-12
prime cave
https://i.imgur.com/gK6GieP.png still levelling but here are my bindings for my pally tank
restive stump
but it felt kinda bad
restive stump
having two core abilities at least on Q and E will help tremendously
prime cave
tbh the best habit is getting used to certain spell types on specific keybinds across characters
like i always have dispells on g and interrupts on s
restive stump
League champions often have similar spells on the same default keybind, to make it easier
so I'll most likely try and apply this habit naturally
prime cave
yeah you figure out your ideal binds w/ time
restive stump
might rebind R too yeah
chat reply
chat is the thing I might care the least about
restive stump
yeah, just like MOBAs
anyways every time I look in chat its just people RP'ing lmao
restive stump
nope!
sand lava
Interesting
restive stump
Mostly in Stormwind and Goldshire that I see that
sand lava
Goldshire
restive stump
I try not to interact with them, ignore them, Idk if it's true but apparently Blizzard can lay the hammer on you if you mess with them
sand lava
No?
restive stump
Might just be rumors I heard
sand lava
As long as you dont act like an ass youre fine
restive stump
meh, I only ever chat in dungeons when I call what my next plan is in bigger battles
like "I pull boss away, watch for patrol"
this kinda stuff, might be useless
but its a habit of mine
Idk what I would put in R tho...
I think Imma go with Divine Shield
Lay on hands being 10m CD is too eh
sand lava
Yeah lay on hands ain’t worth
restive stump
especially if I get that taunt talent at lvl 75
then Divine Shield could be pretty good choice
sand lava
No you don’t want that there
restive stump
no?
sand lava
When you use that as a tank you drop all aggro you have
restive stump
really?
restive stump
wait then should I just not even use it?
and what causes this? is it the forbearence effect?
restive stump
I've noticed alot of my big CD abilities cause Forbearence
and then deny each other as long as forbearence is on the target
sand lava
Yes. Its so you don’t spam all your big cooldowns at once
restive stump
I don't think I'll put Divine Steed there, actually, apparently the popular talent to take at lvl 60 is cavalier (2 Divine Steed charges)
sand lava
Yeah no
restive stump
but I kind of am not a big fan?
actually I'm not a fan of any of the lvl 60 talents
Retribution Aura seems omega-useless on a tank, Cavalier is eh, and maybe Blessing of Spellwarding? Idk
sand lava
Dude retribution aura is the best one
glad hemlock
Ret Aura is ok if you are having trouble holding threat
sand lava
Its a free heal for taking damage
glad hemlock
which you shouldn't unless u are literally afk
Cavilier is speedier which makes getting out of AOE much easier
restive stump
Really? Its decently rare for me to lose aggro, let alone for more than a sec or two
sand lava
^
glad hemlock
aura is p much useless
sand lava
Ret Aura is the easiest for ease of use
glad hemlock
yeah
sand lava
Blessing of Spellwarding is the “I know what shit does and how to counter perfectly” talent
glad hemlock
Cavilier is good for getting out of poop easily, while Spellwarding protects allies in danger without preventing them from attacking
yeah
restive stump
Steed is like... it feels insanely situational, I've ran it on 4 dungeons and never had an actual practical use for it, maybe those specific dungeons lacked big, telegraphed AoE nukes
Cavalier*
sand lava
I would stick with ret aura for now
glad hemlock
it's way better in raids than in dungeons
Ret is easiest, cavilier is good for raid tanking, spellwarding is best but requires good knowledge of each encounter
sand lava
Also, Light of the Protector. Get used to that spell when you get the talent Hand of the Protector
glad hemlock
Ehh
restive stump
I guess, and the reason the third one seemed appealing to me is because... I'll often try and put blessing of protection on myself or an ally then realize
the ennemies don't really to physical
lmao
glad hemlock
yeah
sand lava
If theyre in your face meleeing you then its physical
glad hemlock
spellwarding is the best if you know when an ally is taking heavy spell damage you can't intterupt with rebuke
for example, they are in the middle of a heal while standing in shit
restive stump
and one of my issues or complaints with WoW as of now, is that, alot of the REALLY strong ennemy spells in dungeons, at least as of now for me, are basically completely untellegraphed
sand lava
Old dungeons
restive stump
like the polymorph I talked about sooner
glad hemlock
yup
sand lava
Thats all it is
glad hemlock
the newer the expac the more telegraphs there are
sand lava
^
restive stump
yeah because it's more fun and lets the devs redistribute mob strengths somewhere else
restive stump
Yeah sorry I'm french canadian
glad hemlock
I'm glad you haven't played pvp imo
sand lava
They tried iirc
restive stump
as a HUGE Planetside 2 fan, I REALLY wanted to try 40v40 BGs
but never did
due to JHock's recommendation
glad hemlock
40v40 is way more difficult than standard BGs
sand lava
They arent worth while leveling
glad hemlock
wouldn't recommend it til top level
then it's a great way of grinding conquest
(then of course you have accsess to all the critical utility necessary to playing pvp)
restive stump
Like, the thing I learned from Planetside 2 is that I'm a sucker for MASSIVE scale wars that push the engine and put your 2K$ PC on its knees and it's just some Save Private Ryan level shit
so it was super appealing to me
never got into one tho
sand lava
Alterac Valley isn’t really a bg like that
glad hemlock
the closest i can think of is the warfronts in BfA
glad hemlock
true
restive stump
Yeah well Planetside 2 is kinda like Battlefield but instead of 32v32 is can go like 300+vs300+vs300+ in a small base
so I wasn't expecting that
kek
especially with all the stuff that's going on particles-wise in WoW
that would be hell
glad hemlock
Warfronts are visually speaking about 150 units against a fake enemy faction
with 30 of those being players
that's level 100+ content
restive stump
I'm still unsure what my big ability that I would bind on R would be... hesitating between Blessing of Sacrifices, Light of the Protector, maybe Blessing of Freedom?
glad hemlock
light of protector
way shorter cooldown
and way more important in panic scenarios
blessings won't come up too often
restive stump
yeah its definitely one of my favorite abilities, I've been able to survive alone against full patrols of mobs after my team got wiped just because of it, and hold it for like 20 seconds against multiple mobs until they came back
its a life saver
restive stump
Something weird I've noticed is, its one of those heals that scales with percent missing health, which as a LoL player, I am ALL TOO familiar with those, but sometimes I'll be at 25% HP, and heal for like my entire HP bar in one shot, and sometimes it'll heal me but not that much
in the same scenario, HP wise
sand lava
Its a percent and a flat amount iirc
restive stump
Yeah, but my question behind that is, are there ennemies or effects that reduce healing?
sand lava
Most likely
fleet plank
What are some good pvp talents for BM hunters?
restive stump
Idk what Basilisk is in WoW but I'm getting Dark Souls PTSD right now from that term
glad hemlock
XD
sand lava
You summon a basilisk that does a fuck ton of damage
fleet plank
even on a 2 min cooldown?
sand lava
But its super slow
sand lava
Its worth the cd
glad hemlock
Basilisk is essentially a zoning tool
an extreme form a trap if you will
it's a no-go zone for melee who wanna get in your face
restive stump
that actually sounds exactly like Dark Souls Basilisk
glad hemlock
There's another dire beast summonable by BM hunters that's, well, BS
fleet plank
good to know, I’m just using passive stuff rn since I have warmode on but I will try that
glad hemlock
don't remember the name
fleet plank
There is a hawk
sand lava
The hawk is pretty good
sand lava
Yep
glad hemlock
it's very hard to kill summons
sand lava
Its why the necromancer build for unholy dk in pvp is so good
Its all about summoning shit
fleet plank
That’s good considering I already have animal companion
sand lava
And does a lot of dps
restive stump
Oh... right now my Mount is on mouse button 12, because its super convenient, so maybe I should make Divine Steed CTRL+MB 12
yeah Imma do that
restive stump
well... im testing out my new keybinds in Proving Grounds, and while they definitely feel more optimized
I need to get used to them lol
glad hemlock
maybe the opposite way around Murdoc?
so mount is with Control
but Steed is on fast accsess
since again it's important as a tank to position enemies out of poop and in a way for melee DPS to hit them from behind (so they have 100% hit chance)
@restive stump
restive stump
yeah that makes sense
Also, as a tank, should I always be actively seeking to pull packs away from my backline? Or is that their job to position?
more specifically in a heavy-AoE pack scenario
glad hemlock
that's a part of grabbing aggro
you should never let a group of mobs stay near your backline (unless it's for a mechanic, like Bloodzone in Deadmines)
restive stump
I see, so it's different from League on that point
In League if you die as a backline it's considered positionning fault
from you, basically
glad hemlock
Oh hell no
yeah
i get what your saying
no, backline characters are way too squishy and while they can position often not casting costs more to the group than moving for a while
and while there's some casting-while-moving spells and instant casts, it's not a ton
it's generally a weakness of caster classes
restive stump
but I understand that a LoL teamfight is alot more volatile than a WoW dungeon due to player controlled ennemy characters that might just dive in
restive stump
in a WoW dungeon if the tank does his job then the backline shouldn't have to worry about positionning
restive stump
it's just that sometimes the boss is in front/right in the middle of patrols in a tight space
then I start finding it hard
like uh
Gotta try and find it
glad hemlock
that's part of the thing that seperates a good tank from a great tank
and of course, that's just in general
some boss fights differ wildly from that
example, that goblin that rides the Mook
in deadmines
that's all about the party positioning
but most trash mobs and most bosses is mostly YOU positioning for your team
restive stump
yeah
man I just can't find that damn dungeon
its name
the one with the boss Hydra that has 'Zillah in its name
glad hemlock
oh jeez
restive stump
and a bunch of Ploymorphing mobs
restive stump
this dungeon, is the one I hate the most as of now
and Blackrock
Blackrock Depths, that's an entire country
did it like 4 times and every time no one wants to full clear, just rush as fast as possible
and then it feels super sloppy
restive stump
PUG?
glad hemlock
PUGing is the term for finding random players for dungeons
restive stump
Ah
yeah well apparently I can almost forget Raids unless I get in a Guild, because I've only heard the most hilariously stupid things about Raid Finder
and I don't even need to experience it to have a good idea why
glad hemlock
it's all much better at top level
players know how to play the game and are generally more patient
restive stump
Tbh... I think seeing how Asmongold treats his raid allies... or his Lackeys I guess
might have scared me
from Guilds
restive stump
Like when Classic officially came out, when he'd raid, he'd put every party member in a line, and precisely inspect all their stuff and if he saw anything he didn't like, pretty much instant-kick
glad hemlock
streamers are scum lmao
You can't lfg for raids at that level lmao
LFG raids are way more forgiving than normal raids
restive stump
and he has those admittedly seemingly useful addons where you can see like all the dmg/healing/tanking stats, and as soon as someone's numbers were low, it was like a public shaming on stream,, maybe followed by a kick
but yeah, maybe I should look for other more informative content creators
glad hemlock
Yeah
Asmongold as an informative content creator 
no wonder this community is going to shit
restive stump
My issue is whenever I tune into a high viewcount WoW stream, they're kinda just sitting there on their mount, and like it seems they're either in queue or trading but still
often not doing much kek
restive stump
As of now the only thing I got from entertainment watching Asmon's streams is feeling ashamed for playing Paladin
Idk why but every time he talks or hears about Paladin as a class he kinda just rolls his eyes and dismisses them as RPers and an annoying class
glad hemlock
Paladin honestly kinda sucks, they have really good utility but their numbers lack
except holy paladin which is OP rn
but numbers don't matter unless ur a top raider like most wow streamers
glad hemlock
For Dungeons, it's prot warrior (if you have a good healer) or vengance deamon hunter, for Raids it's Brewmaster Monk
restive stump
I mean I'm sure as hell sticking with my Pally, I've always been a huge fan of Paladins and they're my main class in D&D 5e
but still, interesting to know
my main complaint, not with WoW I guess but more specifically with most MMORPGs is that
you'Re mostly only playing for late game
glad hemlock
Great!
restive stump
and usually the way to end game is like, kinda boring and then it gets super good, but you're at the end
glad hemlock
Numbers don't mean much at almost any level
familiarity with a class and appreciating the "feel" of a class is way better
my main in DnD is Illusion Wizard, do you think I care about numbers? lmao
restive stump
I guess maybe the reason I see alot of people kinda mocking/taking the piss at Pallys and other classes is, man I've seen the way even Blizzard talks about them, like I saw a asmongold stream sooner where he read patch notes, and holy
instead of going "hey this is getting buffed" Blizzard goes like a full paragraph of "We are adding this and this will let these HOLY warriors of light banish evil with their..."
glad hemlock
just stop watching wow streams
restive stump
and I'm like UGH
restive stump
nah I was more talking about Blizz's patch notes lol
restive stump
well I'm new, and admittedly, I've never been hooked for longer than like a week to an MMORPG
tried TESO, didnt get hooked
glad hemlock
WoW is the best(tm)
restive stump
FF14, same deal
TESO was fun at first because it had cooler combat abilities, but eh
glad hemlock
Only MMO I played that held any amount of the same draw for me was GW2
and that completely ditched the holy trinity
restive stump
FF14 feels like WoW... but worse, honestly
glad hemlock
yeah
MMOs feel like variants of WoW cause, well, WoW was the first
like most blizzard things before Activision fucked it all up
restive stump
At least in WoW I often get this satisfying feeling of going to a Quest objective location, and being happily surprised that 4 of my other quests are there, so I can just end up turning all of them back to back and its super satisfying
in FF14 you'Re always running left and right all over the place
it gets old real fuckin' quick
I guess the biggest issue with WoW that I've seen is, I mean understandably, massive powercreeping, and that the newer stuff looks like new stuff
and the older stuff looks like... 2005 stuff
kek
so sometimes my character will all be super ugly warped textures, and then I put new pauldrons in and they're like super HD and high quality
but that's to be expected I guess from a 17 year old game
like that screenshot I took like yesterday
restive stump
got it from a paladin trainer quest
glad hemlock
cool
restive stump
Im trying to have the most "Alliance" look possible
so I'm at least collectionning potential transmogs for later
I mean that helmet is obviously very old but
hey it can't hurt to have it
Imma go full Warframe and just collect everything
I just hope I can get hooked to this game, at least close to how I got hooked to League, because nowadays I kinda hate LoL, and right now I think I could use the distraction from everything that's happening in the world
glad hemlock
Ooh
really good idea for transmog runs
once you hit top level, grab 12 marks of honor
you can get the appearance of any tiered pvp set
here
I'd recommend this set (https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=2168/vindictive-gladiators-scaled-armor-alliance-recolor) and this set (https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=2638/fierce-gladiators-scaled-armor-alliance-recolor), both of which are for sale from the pvp vendor in Legion Dalaran for 12 marks of honor
restive stump
cool
fleet plank
know any cool hunter ones 👀
restive stump
What I really wanted, was this, my main goal right now
I'm a huge sucker for bears
but sadly this one seems locked behind uh...
alot of PvP
restive stump
Also... aren't grounded mounts kinda useless after lvl 60?
or do they have an advantage?
because if I was in a balance team my logic would be, Grounded mounts are like, 20% faster or something, but flying mounts have the natural advantage that they can fly
glad hemlock
No
restive stump
and I'm hoping WoW has a similar deal
glad hemlock
in modern expacs, your locked to the ground til you do a hard achivement
but in BC all the way to Pandaria, it's always better to fly
restive stump
that's kinda sad
restive stump
I feel like alot of really awesome things in this game are kinda just... collection/flex material now
glad hemlock
eh
either your part of the top echelons of raider/dungeioneers/pvpers
or your collecting something
or you roll alts and do as much questing as possible
im somewhere between the latter two
restive stump
like that Staff we talked about here sooner, I dont remember if you were there or if it was you, but the one that requires a fuck ton of effort and when you get it there's a cutscene with a giant ass dragon over Stormwind
but turns out nowadays its a mediocre staff
glad hemlock
it WAS top of it's class back in Cataclysm
this is the problem with MMOs like this
(and hopefully what SL is gonna fix)
restive stump
yeah, I guess with the update scheme Blizz stuck with, there's always going to be powercreeping
it's like inevitable
restive stump
So uh question, how easy is it to scuff a Raid, really?
by that I mean how big is the margin of error?
Afaik it's like super slim but is it as bad as some people make it look?
thin hedge
Is there a way to choose druid flight form? I want to change it from legion class hall form to standart
old zinc
Yes
There is an NPC you can talk to to turn it off - Faebelina
She can be found in the class hall and in Moonglade on a roof
restive stump
can the modan monster even drop anything?
sand lava
doesnt look like it
sand lava
for what?
restive stump
Uh... Gold, XP
restive stump
Yo is it normal that sometimes I'll loot a corpse, I'll right click like the silver to loot it, and despite there being other loot the tab just closes?
so I gotta loot again
glad hemlock
yeah
sterile talon
@restive stump You can turn on Auto Loot in the Interface menu; so when you loot everything will automatically go to your bags
restive stump
I see
wicked pecan
Yo can anyone send me a pm with all the best heirlooms for a fury warrior? much appreciated if someone does
sterile talon
I think people have already answered you in #retail-wow 🙂
wicked pecan
not entirely yet
thin hedge
@old zinc thank you 🍺
haughty pilot
why do i have blue stuff on my gear
and some guy keeps poping up out of nowhere a ghost and explodes on me and dealling 50k
wary kestrel
corruption
you have way too much
corrupted gear can be offset with upgrading your cloak, but having more of it brings more negative effect
@haughty pilot
hearty panther
lol
pallid fulcrum
Hold your cursor over the eye, top right
You see it?
Any corrupted gear should glow
pallid fulcrum
You don't want more corruption, trust me
Grand Delusions will f*** you six days from Sunday
haughty pilot
its already fucking me
i cant a kill any mod without some ghost bitch dealling 50k
pallid fulcrum
No don't
It might have strong effects
Hold your cursor on the eye thingy in your inventory
haughty pilot
yea theres only tow a ring and my wrist
two*
should i throw them out and put on other gear
haughty pilot
with what i got nothing else
pallid fulcrum
Did you do your Horrific Visions?
haughty pilot
pallid fulcrum
I said cloak, not necklace
haughty pilot
correct soz
pallid fulcrum
Hey guys
Heya
Which level can I use my Winged Guardian mount?
:)0
Im now level 7 and bought the game
20, but can only fly at 60 with it
Okay thanks
haughty pilot
pallid fulcrum
That is a helm
Oof
Wait
I'm actually blind holy mother
Okay, you don't even have the legendary cloak
You better complete the quest to get it
haughty pilot
which quest
wary kestrel
...you have access to vale but not the legendary cloak?
or am I misremembering the order?
pallid fulcrum
Have you picked the quest from Wrathion for the cloak?
pallid fulcrum
Get to The Chamber of Heart really quick
pallid fulcrum
I try
pallid fulcrum
Does anyone have a quest marker?
haughty pilot
nope i took thwm all
pallid fulcrum
Hmm
haughty pilot
https://gyazo.com/8488f69fa9dc63481d74e9f05fc8dea3 i think i got this quest from wrathion
wary kestrel
that ^
haughty pilot
the quest?
modern herald
it's.. Crucible of Flame upgrade quest
haughty pilot
where do i get that quest if u dont mind me asking
modern herald
that quest above is for Crucible of Flame essence, but looking at the screenshot before that, you have "Proof of Tenacity" which is part of Black Empire campaign/legendary cloak questline
haughty pilot
so keep doin black empire campaign?
modern herald
yes, idk why you thought you shouldn't, but you should
hearty panther
You can remove teh corruption
Mother removes it with corrupted momentos
You just want to make sure you keep the good ones.
It removes the affix when you cleanse
haughty pilot
yea i dont have the currnecy to remove it
haughty pilot
thanks whats the name of the currency
hearty panther
Corrupted Momentos
frozen canopy
I just hit 120, returning player from Legion. I'm not a fan of questing too much so I leveled via dungeons like a dingus. How much of the orange questlines do I need to do to unlock Ashjra'kamas, Shroud of Resolve
uncut viper
trim echo
hey can anyone point me to a decent buy list for quick profession levelling?
looking for Cooking, and alchemy mainly
pallid fulcrum
So I am trying to play wow classic with a firend how can I set twitch app to download classic mods on classic wow?
hearty panther
Its adrop down bar
Its towards the right next to the search bar
You just hit the drop down and select classic and it will switch you
wary kestrel
@trim echo https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/wow-alchemy-leveling-guide there's ones for all on here
pallid fulcrum
Ah, I had to rescan and it worked thanks mate!
hearty panther
mhm
trim echo
@trim echo https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/wow-alchemy-leveling-guide there's ones for all on here
@wary kestrel awesome thank you ill check it out now 🙂
static nimbus
is 452 a high enough ilevel to try a 5 mask clear as ret, or should i wait on a higher ilevel first?
modern herald
if your cloak is rank 11 (or higher), then it's all up to your own prep, and how well you can avoid taking sanity damage
sweet dew
I'm kind of curious about something. If you have Bfa and had a subscription, can you still trade after the subscription?
lament owl
Hey together
I'm happy to be here.
I have been looking for this transmogset for some time. can anybody help me here and say which transmog items were used here.
the pants is looking like Deathstalker's Leggings but i'm not shure.
sand lava
those boots are uldir's
modern herald
nope
pants and legs are darkshore warfront stuff, gloves are either arathi warfront or honorbound related
belt is most likely pvp belt from legion, last few seasons (dunno which season number(s)) and chest is random BfA green
well, bfa green or azerite chest reward on Kul'Tiras side of things
lament owl
i love that chest beacause of that shoulder part
lament owl
yeaa the model is right but on the image it looks more black
modern herald
the antorus belts can also work
lament owl
is there still a way to get the pants?
modern herald
yeah, warfront.
lament owl
bfa warfront ? sorry but I'm a super causal player haha
modern herald
yeah, bfa. the darkshore one
modern herald
2:52 AM - Sela: well, bfa green or azerite chest reward on Kul'Tiras side of things
it can be bought from the in-game auction house
modern herald
right, gimme a sec
lament owl
❤️
I've got it
Crimsonwood Jerkin
the image is littlebit darker
but i think thats it
modern herald
yeah, that's the only one of those colors that can be bought on the auction house
the other versions are bind on pickup type drops
sand spoke
hi guys i have a qucik question
im playing wow on the starter version and i have too many items in my backpack to finish a quest. How do i find a vendor in the starter version?
sand lava
There should be a village nearby
sand spoke
i dont think ive seen any vendors in the villages here
i think because its starter mode? the free version
sand lava
That doesn’t matter
On your minimap there should be a bag icon or a hammer icon
Those are vendors
restive stump
So wait there's a more DPS oriented Paladin Spec?
I dont think Ive ever played or even seen one
I mean its obvious there is but Im kinda skeptical, wonder how they compare to like a Warrior
sand lava
Retribution?
restive stump
Yeah
sand lava
Ret is very strong but pretty slow
restive stump
Compared to a DPS warrior is their playstyle different?
sand lava
Its kinda like Arms Warrior
restive stump
I see
sand lava
Wait youre a level 60+ paladin and never used Ret?
You started as ret when you made the character
amber gazelle
how come when i go to the transmog window some weapons arent there even though my character is in the level bracket and can use that type of weapon
craggy mural
Hi I’m new and I have the free trial however I want to pay with gold is it possible to get enough gold in the free trial
?
restive stump
Afaik there's a cap
Also even if it was possible it would take like years to farm enough gold to buy a token in the auction house
As a lvl 20*
restive stump
Yeah, and even then, for example Im also new to WoW, I paid my month, I have a LvL 65 char and even in lvl 65 areas it can take like hours to get 100 gold
And iirc Playtime tokens in the auction house can be like 30,000+ Gold
So I think for a new player they're not even worth it, might be worth for an older more experience player
I actually wonder how long it can take for a lvl 120 character to reach 30K gold
Just from normal, non-auction house related stuff
pallid fulcrum
Hi i want help?
vernal flare
@pallid fulcrum well what is it?
cobalt flint
And what reputation does he have with the Orgrimmar faction?
ruby sand
I'm fairly certain the rep is positive since that has never happened to him before
also he's played for years so I'd think he'd know
and how can I get on top of the gates of orgrimmar? I can't fly yet
cobalt flint
I recall reading about a bug a long time ago that when you were only neutral with Orgrimmar and you dueled with someone who had friendly or better, the guards would attack you. But as far as I know, it was fixed.
ruby sand
he didn't attack anyone
cobalt flint
If you mean on top of the front gate, it's impossible to get there without flying.
cobalt flint
The only reason I can recall why you would want to get there is if you are level 110 and want to unlock Zuldazar. But you should be long be able to fly by then.
cobalt flint
Yes, that's the proper place. Not the front wall in Orgrimmar.
hearty panther
Both now
ruby sand
but how do I get to undercity from orgrimmar?
I'm looking for the tower in the videos but I can't find it?
hearty panther
Portal on top of the zep platform
ruby sand
where is it
hearty panther
I just told you...
ruby sand
but where is the zep platform D:
cobalt flint
You need to get to the elevated plateu in the middle first. Find the elevator.
There are a couple around it. You will recognize it as a black tower with an entrance or two.
cobalt flint
Once you are up there, get to the top of the eastern zeppelin tower
ruby sand
oh eastern
yeah I see it now thanks
the videos directed me out from the south gates to durotar
but it didn't look the same at all
ruby sand
oh
cobalt flint
It moved inside in Cataclysm, and around the end of Legion instead of a Zeppelin you use a portal.
@hearty panther Doesn't she appear on the wall only after you complete the BFA intro scenario?
hearty panther
Oh, probably
daring sphinx
Hey guys. So I've got perhaps a stupid question. You know how when you up until now would buy a new expansion, you would get a level boost on the launch day of the expansion? So now we get it as a pre-order bonus on heroic and deluxe editions. Will we get another one on launch? Probably not... but will the Base edition of shadowlands have a boost acconpanied with it on launch?
hearty panther
No, not as of right now
novel marlin
yo
Cant you get on top of front gate
By going across bridge by elevator
Onto the mountain then mountain jump onto it
sand lava
@daring sphinx the boost comes when you buy the expansion, not when it releases
hearty panther
there is one spot that looks like you could jump possibly
I dont think you can get up here this way
Wait!
Yes!
You can! You are right
native linden
guys i wana do some mythical and heroic raids and i dont have any team what do u do XD?
sand lava
Those are a whole other ballgame
hearty panther
yes
native salmon
Cool ty
mellow cypress
Is there a better way than the others to farm a rare pet as hunter ? I see a lot of hunter from other servers farming the same pet. I didn't play since a while, there is cross servers now ?
wary kestrel
it's largely coincidence, zones cross-servers a little bit to help population of the area
plus it's not hugely difficult to use a class trial character to server cross your main to wherever you want it to be, for a time
wary kestrel
oh god it's been a minute, i'd need to recap how to do it myself
I believe you'd need to make a class trial on whatever realm you want, in whatever zone you want, then create a group and get your main IN that group? I believe that's the method
or something close
don't take my word for it, you may want to look it up yourself
mellow cypress
How do you invite your main ?
wary kestrel
custom groups
create on trial char, join on main
requires a lot of logging over
unsure if it still works
mellow cypress
What are custom groups ?
mellow cypress
Oh ok, just find it
wary kestrel
preferably under custom
yeah
just name the group like 152738 and then when you're on your main you can search for 152738 or whatever
name it some random crap that only you'd care about
wary kestrel
well uhm, if you can see any mobs when your main JOINS, the mobs should like
shift around
cause obviously they're not in the same place on different realms
mellow cypress
Or I can kill everything and then join ?
wary kestrel
i mean i guess
you could equally just look at them disappear and reappear somewhere else
mellow cypress
Ok I try, thanks
dusk jetty
Hi, can anyone help me out with a druid macro? I'm kinda stuck on something that involves switching forms with and without target
mellow cypress
@wary kestrel I tried on 4 different servers. 3 were already shared and it works with 1 (I think because it was rp and my main is on pve)
sly lance
mellow cypress
Oops look to your shortcuts I don't know the default key
I have "/" on my character, maybe it is this ?
wary kestrel
@sly lance there should be a toggle autorun key in keybinds
again, idk what it is by default
could well be / or \
wary kestrel
pause, key bindings
it'll be under movement i assume
i think it is literally called toggle autorun
mellow cypress
@wary kestrel it also works with other language server 🙂
It was a great tips, thanks again
acoustic mason
How do RAF rewards work? Im asking ab the timewarped badges and marks fo honor, not the monthly ones
My questions are after i do all 3, do they reset?
How do i pick which character gets the badge?
Is it the one i ran with to complete the objectives?
acoustic mason
haha
hearty panther
If you are doing it with yourself
You would choose whichever you plan to have as a main
As for reset
you mean rewards?
No, they dont as far as I know
acoustic mason
so its only a one time thing?
hearty panther
Um, so you can refer as many as you want
and you will get the currency for each new recruit
acoustic mason
ya i doubt imma get any recruits, oh well