UHHH UHHH
#beta-ptr-spoilers
upper pasture
uncut vault
god thats insane lol
upper pasture
i'm gonna love this class healer
crimson jasper
this is all so cool
deep pawn
It's macrocosmos.
deep pawn
It's gonna be stupidly op against any raid wide damage
cunning fossil
I am a GOD
upper pasture
The Stasis ability is very unique and deserves its own section. When activated, Stasis will remember the next 3 helpful skills cast (that aren't Rewind). You can then activate Stasis again to cast the exact same 3 spells as if they were instant cast, on the exact same targets, in the exact same order. It's almost like building your own Convoke the Spirits!
deep pawn
Eh, people called that the moment bronze healing as confirmed
cunning fossil
Oooooh
cunning fossil
Eh, people called that the moment bronze healing as confirmed
Well thanks for killing my hype >:/
deep pawn
Yeah, fan sites clearly have been in the private alpha
cunning fossil
Don't shit on meh parade
deep pawn
And NDA embargo ended at noon
limber perch
Yeah, fan sites clearly have been in the private alpha
now i patiently wait for the public alpha and pray i get an inv
deep pawn
But Public alpha is late
pulsar minnow
Okay so I’ve been a melee dps guy for as long as I can remember. But yeah I think I might be swapping to an Evoker
cunning fossil
Blessing of the Bronze - Weave the threads of time, reducing the cooldown of the a major movement ability for all party and raid members by 15% for 1 hour
uncut lintel
HSFDHARRO ALL THESE DRAGONFLIHT POSTS
cunning fossil
Ooh
uncut lintel
MY HEART CANT TAKE IT
limber perch
ill stay ret paladin for now and see how evoker looks
upper pasture
Time Dilation (Bronze): Stretch time around an ally for the next 8 sec, causing 50% of damage they would take to instead be dealt over 8 sec. 1 min cooldown Preservation Talent.
cunning fossil
That's njce
upper pasture
dude bronze time magic is the best
vernal juniper
uncut lintel
bronze and infinite are best
limber perch
which area is this
uncut lintel
ooo
upper pasture
Source of Magic (Blue): Redirect your excess magic to a friendly healer for 30 min. When you cast an empowered spell, you restore 0.5% of their maximum mana per empower level. Limit 1. Class Talent.
uncut lintel
maybe its one ofthose zones no one will like 
cunning fossil
I'm going so hype
limber perch
maybe its one ofthose zones no one will like <:KEKW:654737817439567912>
its fine i hate northern stranglethorn but people i know like it
pulsar minnow
uncut lintel
i wish i could sleep untill release so i dont die from hype
limber perch
im like the opposite of everyone
cunning fossil
Yoo
uncut lintel
WHTF
pulsar minnow
Azure span stuff
uncut lintel
WHOAAFSFKSAFK
pulsar minnow
They dropped a massive press kit
vernal juniper
pulsar minnow
It’s on MMO champion rn
limber perch
in the alpha are we gonna see how shadowlands connects to dragonflight
like how we get there
in the story
vernal juniper
Phial of the Eye of the Storm
Your [PRIMARY STAT] is increased by 60/65/79 for each enemy that is attacking you, stacking up to 5 times.
Phial of Charged Isolation
Your [PRIMARY STAT] is increased by 225/246/297 while at least 10 yds from allies.
Phial of Static Empowerment
Remaining stationary will increase your [PRIMARY STAT] up to 240/263/289 over 5 sec. Movement consumes the effect, granting up to 500/518/630 Speed for 5 sec. (At max level, this comes out to +35% speed without any other speed buffs.)
Phial of Tepid Versatility
Increases your Versatility by 72/75/113.
Charged Phial of Alacrity
Increases your speed by 144/150/226.
Phial of Elemental Chaos
Infuse yourself with the power of the elements, periodically granting you elemental boons. Each boon increases a secondary stat by 145/151/227 and grants a bonus effect.
Each boon lasts for one minute and immediately switches to another when it expires. The order appears to be random: you can get one on repeat for several minutes, or you can constantly swap from one to the other. These are the different boons:
Air: Haste increased by 227. Movement speed +10%.
Fire: Critical strike increased by 227. Damage dealt by critical strikes increased by 2%.
Earth: Mastery increased by 227. Damage taken reduced by 5%.
Frost: Versatillity increased by 227. Healing dealt by critical strikes increased by 2%.
haughty houndBOT
Template Primary Stat Proc - https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=268401/template-primary-stat-proc - PTR 9.2.7
pulsar minnow
upper pasture
big zone
limber perch
omg the zones look huge
uncut lintel
IS THAT A MOUNT
limber perch
wtf
deep pawn
That's probably the first or second zone
pulsar minnow
upper pasture
that's dragonriding my guy
uncut lintel
oh no jaina found it first
deep pawn
And yeah, the dragons are highly customize
uncut lintel
yea but like
limber perch
customizable mounts
uncut lintel
I WANT IT NOW
upper pasture
no, on or before dec 31st 2021
pulsar minnow
analog sphinx
yo wtf
uncut lintel
YOOO
limber perch
it will be 11:59 pm on dec 31st knowing blizz
pulsar minnow
There’s a lot more but these ones stood out
uncut lintel
ITS MUSHU
upper pasture
evoker gets magic and poison remove
uncut lintel
im im dying of hype
upper pasture
BUT they also get a one min remove all and heal
Cauterizing Flame (Red): Cauterize an ally's wounds, removing all Bleed, Poison, Curse, and Disease effects. Heals for (350% of Spell power) upon removing any effect. 1 min cooldown. Class Talent.
uncut lintel
subtle oar
https://cdn.blizzardwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Body-Type-Side-by-Side-...
What's this a poc of. I'm not seeing anything
ivory meadow
upper pasture
evoker button probs
subtle oar
Kek
deep pawn
That blue is nice
upper pasture
I guess necrotic is going away or you'll be bringing an evoker that week
i mean, its a talent and a 1min CD so probs not that broken
limber perch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegByOc3MzY like 14 mins of dragonflight
11 mins sorry
deep pawn
i mean, its a talent and a 1min CD so probs not that broken
Tanks already run kyrian and that's a 2 min cd
upper pasture
and? we're losing that in DF?
pulsar minnow
Oh my god dragon riding is insane
crimson jasper
yo from platimun even haha
uncut lintel
OR CUSTOMIZATION I MEAN
ivory meadow
bruh... Time Spiral
crimson jasper
this is all so fkn lit
uncut lintel
FEET CLAW-- dies
crimson jasper
also see how the zones are ready ;P
analog sphinx
is @cunning fossil alive?
deep pawn
So having access to a 1 min bleed cure is nuts
ivory meadow
Time Spiral (Bronze): Bend time, allowing you and your allies to cast their major movement ability once in the next 10 sec, even if it is on cooldown. 2 min cooldown. Class Talent.
that's...
huge
jesus.
upper pasture
bronze is gonna be amazing
cunning fossil
is <@247758224441344010> alive?
Why do u ask
deep pawn
Are they gonna add movement CDs to those who don't have them?
ancient jasper
Holy shit
deep pawn
Like what is that gonna do for mages. Lower blink CD?
uncut lintel
ivory meadow
that's so interesting
upper pasture
yes?
ancient jasper
Dracthyr have more customization than all of the Allied Races combined and then some
deep pawn
Dracthyr have more customization than all of the Allied Races combined and then ...
But they don't get to wear armor in combat, so.
upper pasture
yeah seeing as they have what 80 quadrillion or whatevery they posted?
uncut lintel
THE BEST RACE EVER IN THE GAME DESERVES THE BEST CUSTOMIZATIONS
uncut lintel
im having a herat tattack i need htis mnowu
deep pawn
Little sad that they're trying master loot again
Unless it's less loot overall or something
uncut lintel
now no one will get loot in raids
cunning fossil
<@247758224441344010> thats alot of new infos.. thats why
Fair lmaoo
cunning fossil
Like what is that gonna do for mages. Lower blink CD?
Probably so?
upper pasture
i mean, master loot makes sense in a guild group
uncut lintel
raid leaders r gonna be greedy and take everything
vernal juniper
Anyone got the Alpha?
deep pawn
Master loot has downsides, especially if they make it so it's less loot per boss and you can get things for classes you don't run
uncut lintel
master looter is useless
why not just keep it as it is and dont include master looter anymore
private loot is the best
uncut lintel
WHOA
deep pawn
"oh you got an agi dagger and your only rogue already had 2?"
cunning fossil
So I get why didn't release everything at once now
vernal juniper
Alpha is already downable...
uncut lintel
MAYBE THEY ARE LEARNING
cunning fossil
WHEN ENGIDZ??
uncut lintel
NOT TO RELEASE UNFINISHED SHIIIT
and do some at a time
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE
cunning fossil
"oh you got an agi dagger and your only rogue already had 2?"
While true, personal loot has its fair share as well
upper pasture
i mean that shit happens in personal loot too?
except you have zero control on where the loot goes
uncut lintel
what if uu loot something u dont need but wanna keep it for transmog
rip transmog lovers
upper pasture
chances are if you don't need it you already have the transmog or you can appeal to the guild as to why you want it at least
harsh wedge
I mean, if your guild uses master loot, transmog purposes won’t be the priority no matter the system used
cunning fossil
Totally get that
cunning fossil
But this is an OPTION
cunning fossil
For raiders
uncut lintel
it shouldnt be an option
any option blizz implements gets abused
this isnt classic wow, people are more greedy than ever
cunning fossil
Well the answer isn-/ do nothing though
harsh wedge
Not really for that
uncut lintel
harsh wedge
If you don’t want to raid with a pug doing master loot, just leave and find another one
cunning fossil
And who DOESN'T like those?
uncut lintel
ok
fair argument
thing is i wanted to learn to this in df but i dont wanna do 10 raids and get nothing
raid*
harsh wedge
It should be an option, options are the best
uncut lintel
fucking english
harsh wedge
This can happen no matter the loot system
upper pasture
i mean, master looter will most likely be disable in LFR foxy so you're fine
subtle oar
Master looters back
Yikes
deep pawn
Temple of jade serpent and court of stars appears to be part of season 1
uncut lintel
what
upper pasture
so in a month and a half the whole alpha is supposed to be out for testing
uncut lintel
jesus
harsh wedge
Not bad dungeons thematically
hoary cedar
So, does Wowhead have a plan of integrating the Dracthyr customizations into the Dressing Room?
ancient jasper
Considering they have Demon Hunters full customization in there.. Yes?
uncut lintel
but demon hunters released 5 years ago
ancient jasper
I.. don't see what that has to do with Blizzard adding Dracthyr customization to the Dressing Room.
cunning fossil
TEMPLE.OF THE JADE SERPENT LET'S GO
uncut lintel
well you said they had demon hunter in the dressing room, ofc they do, theyve been around for years
ancient jasper
And by Dressing Room I assume Dylan meant Barber Shop?
cunning fossil
And court of stars
uncut lintel
the dressing room on WoWhead im p sure is what they meant
idk when they release stuff there
ancient jasper
Sorry Dylan
cunning fossil
Lol
uncut vault
how do you do, fellow humans
strange falcon
so, i was busy the rest of the day, what are thoughts on alpha, i saw only 1 zone and no new treess
hoary cedar
Sorry Dylan
You're good, chief!
crimson jasper
hell yea talents lets go
@cunning fossil I guess you wanna mess around with that too https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/evoker/devastation
;P
ivory meadow
bro Fly With Me is going to be so helpful in world content
uncut lintel
how do you do, fellow humans
OUR FIRST TEST OF FEMALES WITH BEARDS
uncut lintel
so, i was busy the rest of the day, what are thoughts on alpha, i saw only 1 zon...
well the game isnt finished
and there is such thing as plains
cunning fossil
uncut lintel
you dont need trees in ever qaurter of a island
cunning fossil
I love them
upper pasture
but also they want people focusing certain areas and not everything all at once
cunning fossil
Hornswog my beloved
cunning fossil
hell yea talents lets go
<@247758224441344010> I guess you wanna mess around wit...
Definitely will once I get home!
cunning fossil
so, i was busy the rest of the day, what are thoughts on alpha, i saw only 1 zon...
Alpha is iut. They're going to test about 4-5 classes per batch, dragonriding, and 2 professions
uncut lintel
@strange falcon my thought tho, OMG IIM SO HYPED DAFIRE I CANT WAIT TO DRAG U ALONG WITH ME AS A DRATHYR AND WE CAN PLAY TOGETHER 24/7 HOEDOSAJF
cunning fossil
POLAR BEARS
hoary cedar
HOLY SHIT
uncut lintel
OMG
hoary cedar
SINDRAGOSA'S HUMAN FORM IS HOT AF
uncut lintel
POLEAR BEAR
cunning fossil
Lmao feral
hoary cedar
👉 👈
uncut lintel
Lmao feral
my feral druid hurts
strange falcon
<@94886929169920000> my thought tho, OMG IIM SO HYPED DAFIRE I CANT WAIT TO DRAG...
WAI is only better than you because he freaks out only when really excited
strange falcon
Alpha is iut. They're going to test about 4-5 classes per batch, dragonriding, a...
sure sure, but does it give you the impression it is "5months from release ready" so far?
ivory meadow
cunning fossil
crimson jasper
always cynical Dafire, as expected, cant be happy about anything xd
cunning fossil
sure sure, but does it give you the impression it is "5months from release ready...
Holy fuck it is the first day of alpha
I do not know
upper pasture
that's just Dafire tho, you should be used to it by now
uncut lintel
dafire needs to like go outside for once please
rain cave
lol we can make salazzle as a dracthyr
cunning fossil
ENGINEERING STATION LOOKS BAD ASS
strange falcon
always cynical Dafire, as expected, cant be happy about anything xd
i am only asking
strange falcon
dafire needs to like go outside for once please
you're the one that never goes outside noot me
strange falcon
It's been like an hour since alpha openly dropped daf
i only heard "alpha is outt" not a timeframe
upper pasture
With the introduction of quality to crafting and gathering, there will be some additional pressure on bag space due to items of different crafting qualities not stacking. To offset this increase in bag space, we are making several inventory updates regarding professions.
First, we are excited to introduce a brand-new type of bag, the reagent bag! Reagent bags can only hold reagents, following the same rules for what can go in the reagent bank. What is particularly special about these bags is that they will have their own new, dedicated bag slot. In other words, once you get your hands on a reagent bag during your adventures in the Dragon Isles, you will have a large amount of additional inventory space to devote to your gathered and crafted reagents.'
ivory meadow
Our current plan is for gathered reagents to stack to 1000 (up from 200)
upper pasture
oh look at that a reagent bag like i thought
ivory meadow
oh my goodness
cunning fossil
BI get to make things for other people that AREN'T MOUNTS
uncut lintel
BI get to make things for other people that AREN'T MOUNTS
yea but people go meh to this and OOOO to mounts
including me 
upper pasture
mobile crafting tables are gonna be nice if you need the tables to craft stuff foxy
uncut lintel
but cant u just do it without table? thught u could
upper pasture
i'm assuming some stuff you'll need a table for in DF
most new Dragon Isles crafting recipes will require you to be at these new crafting stations.
strange falcon
With the introduction of quality to crafting and gathering, there will be some a...
we already had reagent bags back many years ago, but they were useless because they took the same slot as normal bags so that's alright
upper pasture
yes but this is a NEW slot for that reagent bag
cunning fossil
That's why they're adding a new slot
And I assume that the reagent bags will be WAY larger than normal
Ayyy
Time to make an evoker build
I have 0 idea tho
strange falcon
```Our current plan is for gathered reagents to stack to 1000 (up from 200)```
this has interesting implications. inb4 100 of a reagent required per craft?
dense plover
Ayo. Here’s hoping I get alpha like last year. Considering my thousands of bug reports, it would be weird if I didn’t
cunning fossil
this has interesting implications. inb4 100 of a reagent required per craft?
Now you're just making shit up
upper pasture
ayyo female visage customizations just dropped
cunning fossil
YEAHH
strange falcon
Now you're just making shit up
blizzard has done dumber shit so i wouldnt be surprised
upper pasture
i mean depends on how much you get from nodes if you get a lot per node i'd expect to see high crafting requirements but if its current i'd expect low mats
strange falcon
OGMFOGODJOFDJ SO HOT
foxy's gonna bluescreen like a pc one of these days
upper pasture
i wonder if the hair highlights are only on certain styles
uncut lintel
we'll have to find out
rain cave
voldemort
uncut lintel
@strange falcon I NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON
cunning fossil
: Transforms all enemies within 10 yards into sheep, wandering around incapacitated for 1 min. While affected, the victims cannot take actions but will regenerate health very quickly. Damage will cancel the effect.
LMAO
Mass Polymorph for Magw
ivory meadow
oh shit
they might change Arcane surge
Arcane Surge: Expend all of your current mana to annihilate your enemy target and nearby enemies for up to [(268% of Spell power) * 2] Arcane damage based on Mana spent. Deals reduced damage beyond 5. For the next 12 sec, your Mana Regeneration is increased by 450% and Spell Damage is increased by 10%
cunning fossil
Potential Evocation replacement??
That's awesome
Flurry has a 20% chance each strike to call down an icy comet, crashing into your target and nearby enemies for (21% of Spell power) Frost damage.
I loved this in BFA
So glad it's back
cunning fossil
I assume so yeah!
ivory meadow
oh wow
pulsar minnow
At first I found the visage forms really goofy looking
But after watching MrGM's video on them, I have to main one of these guys
pulsar minnow
I mean if you wanna make them look goofy you can
lapis grotto
is alpha out yet?
cunning fossil
is alpha out yet?
For once, the answer is yes
dense plover
Alpha is here. Time to find out if I got it
deep pawn
I didn't
cunning fossil
How does anyone know?
dense plover
People don’t have access yet apparently
MrGM is still waiting and he definitely does
dense plover
How does anyone know?
You check your launcher
dense plover
a streamer got it alrdy on bnet
Yes but they’re still sending out keys
Mostly US but some EU
lapis grotto
so most eu tomorrow then
subtle oar
TEMPLE.OF THE JADE SERPENT LET'S GO
Hmm? Something about pandaria?
lapis grotto
Hmm? Something about pandaria?
for m+
signal bone
so wowhead dragonflight preview confirms that the dragonriding system is just a holdover until regular flying? Does it feel worse than normal flying?
dense plover
Ok so build went out 15 min ago
So it’s likely that keys will be going out over the entire day
upper pasture
How does anyone know?
check your bnet account under games
dense plover
Or at least the next couple of hours
austere gazelle
The account are flagged regardless of Regional restriction
some French Youtubers got access already
dense plover
ill be disappointed if i dont get access considering my history, but i might not since im not subscribed
who knows
austere gazelle
I don't think it matter. Having access can also be a good way to tease player into returning to play
strange falcon
ill be disappointed if i dont get access considering my history, but i might not...
you werent loyal enough to the company to get alpha, only 6month subs allowed
dense plover
i reported a shit ton of bugs last alpha ¯_(ツ)_/¯
strange falcon
only half joking
austere gazelle
Anyway, they have a list of email and account for each wave that never move.
some people , regardless of their subscription, are garanteed to have access
dense plover
I thought I got on that list from a friend, but who knows
lapis grotto
i mean its all totally random
just like ow2 beta, i got it on my perma banned account the second it came out
vernal juniper
cunning fossil
Totem shaman is back??
upper pasture
itemlevel 398? guess S4 isn't seeing much of an increase after all...oh wait
cunning fossil
Lmai
upper pasture
Raszageth the Storm-Eater sounds cool
dense plover
i mean its all totally random
its somewhat based on previous testing stuff
upper pasture
im so hyped for Uldaman coming back
uncut lintel
wait theres a new uldaman?
upper pasture
that was like the first dungeon i remember running way way back
lapis grotto
wait theres a new uldaman?
for prepatch im pretty sure
uncut lintel
austere gazelle
wait theres a new uldaman?
Uldaman and Tyr are linked, the Stone disc of Norgannon is something Tyr stole from Loken in Ulduar and had hidden in uldaman by his allies
austere gazelle
I was getting to it
There is something related to Dragonflight in Uldaman, and there is apparently a revamp and a new part of the dungeon accessible now
rain cave
I think that we go to uldaman to start the thing to find the dragon isles or something
uncut lintel
: o
rain cave
that sentence was very detailed I know
austere gazelle
The last I read about that part in some obscure interview, the opening of the DI powered something in uldaman and opened new area, which incites the explorations leagues to go to the DI
ember blaze
Rip disc aoe silence
rain cave
I like this
ember blaze
Wtf you can pick up an ally and fly with them
latent thicket
dense plover
unless they are still sending out keys, i didnt get in 😭
ember blaze
strange falcon
asmon's gonna like this kek
ember blaze
Slow classes are gonna love you
glass flicker
No Vicious War Duck?
upper pasture
my game accounts shifted in my account and my heart dropped cause i thought i got in D:
glass flicker
Guess I'm not doing any PvP this expansion, either.
rich elm
Dracthyr swooping in to pick up friends
latent thicket
@lapis grotto i hope the Glad elite sets looks half as cool as the dragon than im happy 😄
lapis grotto
<@816276547853746207> i hope the Glad elite sets looks half as cool as the drago...
it just has to 😆
vernal juniper
does anyone got the access here?
pulsar minnow
This is sort of interesting
Black Dragons are now using purple banners
Maybe Wrathion is adopting the Void Dragonflight from BFA?
Since the Black Dragonflight is virtually wiped out?
ember blaze
Did I get it right? The dracthyr racial is a huge flight and glide?
pulsar minnow
Yeah they do their own Dragonriding
rain cave
Maybe but also I think it's because having a plain black banner would be strange
ember blaze
Is it available in combat
rain cave
But I like the idea
pulsar minnow
ember blaze
Cause it’s an op ability when more classes open up
strange falcon
YEEEEEESSSS
im scared
dense plover
thats a very done map for alpha
pulsar minnow
What is that thing behind Tyrhold?
Like a Volcano or something with a Titan facility
upper pasture
primal jail?
deep pawn
I swear I've played a game that had a dedicated reagent/tradeskill bag before...
pulsar minnow
primal jail?
ah you know what that's probably it
rain cave
primal jail?
Makes sense
pulsar minnow
Also there's a ny'alotha map as well
rain cave
You what
pulsar minnow
Probably for a quest or something
upper pasture
you know, the black dragon magic talent they get aren't bad, it's not a tanking spec that for sure but they all seem to be about CC things
upper pasture
Did I get it right? The dracthyr racial is a huge flight and glide?
no? racials are
Tail Swipe: Lash our with your tail, knocking enemies within 6 yds into the air. 1.5 min cooldown. Racial Ability.
Wing Buffet: With a powerful flap of your wings, knock away enemies in front of you. 1.5 min cooldown. Racial Ability.
everything else seems tied to class
dense plover
upper pasture
bagon is dead!
rain cave
Bartender too apparently
upper pasture
honestly i'm surprised it took them this long to make that a thing
subtle oar
Ah good, reading more into the loot change, it's not master loot, but group loot. I am far more ok with that
dense plover
nearly the entire map looks done - this means alpha is much farther along
upper pasture
those zones look HUGE
upper pasture
tbh very boring mount for that much effort
rain cave
nearly the entire map looks done - this means alpha is much farther along
But not all classes are in yet
Win some lose some
pulsar minnow
baby foxes!
upper pasture
i swear if that area on the left goes to an underwater zone ill lose me shit
subtle oar
But not all classes are in yet
That's on purpose. They are doing targeted testing
rain cave
That's on purpose. They are doing targeted testing
Hope so
languid yoke
nearly the entire map looks done - this means alpha is much farther along
they wrote a bluepost explaining that all zones are done and they just have focused testing unlike Bfa/Shadowlands were the last zone wasn't even done and only put on alpha like 2 months in
dense plover
i really do hope theyre still adding accounts - im sorta upset that i didnt get in
deep pawn
the big water area has to have a purpose or why make it
pulsar minnow
i swear if that area on the left goes to an underwater zone ill lose me shit
I hope that the primal drakes open a giant hole in the ground in that area. Maybe make a zone something along these lines:
upper pasture
i would be okay with this but i can't do another underwater zone
pulsar minnow
I don't know why they would do an underwater zone when we have Dragonriding as a primary feature
strange falcon
https://twitter.com/Thdlock/status/1547644079550263297
bagnon addon is dead
dense plover
the big water area has to have a purpose or why make it
maybe stuff underwater? or naga stuff?
upper pasture
please no mrpeach
languid yoke
i really do hope theyre still adding accounts - im sorta upset that i didnt get ...
if it makes you feel better mrgm doesn't have alpha yet and he was part of the internal alpha and had an Ion interview
uncut lintel
I hope that the primal drakes open a giant hole in the ground in that area. Mayb...
I CAN HEAR THE MOVIE THEME
strange falcon
i really do hope theyre still adding accounts - im sorta upset that i didnt get ...
betrayal
dense plover
dang, they truly went all out
pulsar minnow
KORANOS!!
strange falcon
Oh thank goodness the male dracthyr have eyebrows
top left looks like solas from dragonage
dense plover
yo im just now getting to the evoker class stuff
anyone notice the cool selector for the beam movement abilities?
this is sick
pulsar minnow
I noticed that too. I love how you can choose how far you go too
dense plover
cone selector too
im curious if we will see this come to any of the other classes that do cones
it would be nice to be able to actually see the cones radius
pulsar minnow
It's interesting how they've changed the sort of "style" dragons have had for a while
dense plover
wrathion all grown up
pulsar minnow
Like in terms of head shape
dense plover
love it
pulsar minnow
it's sooo good
I'm so torn between running my Dracthyr as a Black Dragon or a Blue
deep pawn
Light blue or pink are what my dracthyr will be
proper palm
My male black drachtyr ❤️
ember blaze
upper pasture
weird take but sure whatever, doesn't change the way i play but allows others to play more inline with how they feel so it's a win
rain cave
I mean it's no harm and I'm all for it but I personally don't see under what scenarios people would use it
but idk
ember blaze
it's literally just more options to shape your character
pretty good for RPers or anyone that cares for the options
ill just delete the somewhat inflammatory comment 😂
rain cave
it's literally just more options to shape your character
ye
but for example I don't understand what scenario you'd have say, male voice on female model
unless you're RPing as like a drag queen
which is fair I guess
people do joke characters all the time
ember blaze
yeah, it's nothing you gotta worry about if you dont care
pulsar minnow
Asmongold made his Dracthyr look insanely cool
ember blaze
so im happy
rain cave
extremely edgy
pulsar minnow
Well, it's a Black Dragon so that's just how it is lol
rain cave
also ew asmongold 
ember blaze
so essences are a whole new resource
pulsar minnow
also ew asmongold <:happy:230833572045389824>
eh he's entertaining sometimes
rain cave
yeah but he's a content cancer
like he actively makes the platforms he uses worse because of how he makes some of his conent
his reactions, specifically
strange falcon
Asmongold made his Dracthyr look insanely cool
Of course he was the first to get alpha, free stream content 😂
proper palm
Visage would be amazing with humain shape ...
cunning fossil
how does this compare to revival
I would assume this compared incredibly well since it scales with all the damage taken rather than having a cap
So much data mining
What are the results from Ions interview?
subtle oar
What are the results from Ions interview?
It's not master loot
It's group loot
No single loot master
And it's only available in raid content
ember blaze
I love all their time spells
glass flicker
But how would a warrior heal me? Bandages?
"Here you go, mate! Take care of yourself!"
"Don't worry, me, I'm here! And I trained Tailoring!"
dense plover
But how would a warrior heal me? Bandages?
its a version of the evoker
dense plover
not a version of whoever you cast it on
glass flicker
Yeah.
dense plover
also its automatic, not cast
so its sorta risky as a talent
idk why its level 30
considering they start at 58
glass flicker
Maybe they plan to squish them like DH and DK sometime in the future?
dense plover
¯_(ツ)_/¯
its possible - could also be future proofing in case they do
yeah im fairly certain i didnt get in - that sucks. ive been in the past few betas/alphas and was in the shadowlands and bfa alpha from the start
i wonder why i didnt get access
cunning fossil
They've marked you bad
You've talked too much smack
Ans now u have been punished
austere gazelle
i wonder why i didnt get access
Maybe they invited less people this time and you'll be in the second wave, since apparently they are doing this a little more... " planned " this time
pulsar minnow
Peach constituted like an entire percentage of total bugs reported I'd bet
I'm shocked you're not in
dense plover
it might also be that they invited people based on classes played
and since i main monk, they want me to wait
because im not going to accurately report class feedback for non-monk
monk is like 89% of my playtime
followed by Blood DK and Balance Druid
neither of which i really play once they reach cap
austere gazelle
and since i main monk, they want me to wait
Not sure it's an efficient way of testing. Inviting people to play the new talent system on a class they never played is also a good feedback.
dense plover
Not sure it's an efficient way of testing. Inviting people to play the new talen...
except when you want class feedback initially, you want people who understand the class well
austere gazelle
Anyway, I think they lowered the amount of invited people for this wave
rain cave
better to make it good for experts and then also make it good for newers
than follow newer peoples feedback at first and maybe ruin it for experts
plain violet
dense plover
i mean, theyre not replacing the old ones
its a different ype
btw - apparently there is a bug where it might not show on the launcher - so check your account on battle.net just to be sure you can be disappointed like me
bronze holly
Looks like a meerkat not an otter
dense plover
Looks like a meerkat not an otter
otter mount definitely looks like an otter
have you ever seen a river otter?
they look like that but small
subtle oar
^
pulsar minnow
Looks like a skeleton whale... shark thing (or dragon)? And it's got reigns. So potential mount maybe?
rain cave
btw - apparently there is a bug where it might not show on the launcher - so che...
wdym where else would it be but the launcher
rain cave
Looks like a skeleton whale... shark thing (or dragon)? And it's got reigns. So ...
to me it looks like a wicker beast
that the gnolls might use
upper pasture
In your account page under games and accounts
rain cave
since they're kinda similar to that aesthetic on the dragon isles
rain cave
In your account page under games and accounts
where
ember blaze
@dense plovercheck where on b net
lapis grotto
when more alpha flags? 🤔
upper pasture
In your account page on bnet under accounts and games
Like where it shows all your licenses for games
rain cave
games and subscriptions?
upper pasture
Yup
ember blaze
does this proc with rescue
dense plover
Looks like a meerkat not an otter
otter
i spent time making this to prove my point
meerkats have no curves
theyre tube shaped b/c theyre burrowers
cunning fossil
it might also be that they invited people based on classes played
Does this mean I might get to play hunter???
Please god
dense plover
i mean - i think it still also relies on clout and testing experience
rain cave
i mean - i think it still also relies on clout and testing experience
and preorder status kek
cunning fossil
;-;
limber perch
most random people probs wont get an inv till like wave 2 tbh
dense plover
and preorder status kek
not usually
rain cave
I jest
dense plover
but active account might matter which might be why i didnt get in this wave
strange falcon
I may be overly hyped I admit
Another point for
"WAI is better than foxy"
At least he has a minimum of self awareness
pulsar minnow
and preorder status kek
If it was based on Pre-Order status i'd be kinda screwed
I got the Collector's Edition 😬
languid yoke
did anyone try out dracthyr emotes
signal bone
so every class is available but not all have updated talents?
rain cave
so every class is available but not all have updated talents?
no I think only the classes with trees are available
hoary cedar
Anyone got a screenshot of the new Alexstrasza model?
signal bone
I saw someone playing lock on stream
uncut lintel
aomfg
deep pawn
I hope we get a cinematic of Anduin on his back some time
uncut lintel
id die of gay
uncut vault
I hope we get a cinematic of Anduin on his back some time
well, he does specifically use the new Dragonriding rig 😛
uncut lintel
isnt his human form a belf
lapis grotto
yeah
uncut vault
anyone got pic of nozdormu human form?
deep pawn
we last saw him after we killed Deathwing
uncut lintel
damn
uncut vault
Yeah the face is a really weird sore spot on the model, especially since his old model had such a unique face
lapis grotto
kalecgos has best glowup
uncut lintel
kalecgos has best glowup
no
proper palm
Yeah because is visage form = humain
uncut lintel
Better in cata bruh
way better
proper palm
Neltharion.. Onyxia.. Nefarian.. :))
pulsar minnow
Did Wrathion's human form get redone?
uncut lintel
his bfs form i s fine
uncut vault
I think if they fixed the weird eye glow stuff it would be fine
pulsar minnow
just his dragon form got updated
Ah. Makes sense. His human form is already fantastic as it is.
I really love the attention to detail Blizz has when it's come to slowly aging up Wrathion's dragon form
uncut vault
chromies new model is also really nice and simple
pulsar minnow
oh I haven't seen it
uncut vault
uncut vault
I like that they basically took her HotS model and added a bit more draconic flair with the wing-like shapes on her shoulderpads
pulsar minnow
Did they give her a unique dragon model? Because her HotS dragon was really cool
proper palm
She is cool (chromie)
pulsar minnow
And I assume Merithra hasn't gotten anything either right?
I'm kinda holding out hope that we bring Ysera back like we did the Wild Gods in Cata
rain cave
That's alexstrasza
pulsar minnow
Well it's her moon crest
pulsar minnow
She is, yet Ysera is on the box art and is on the pin set
pulsar minnow
On top of that Porter just mentioned the encrypted Ysera model, and we got that 9.2.5 dialogue hinting towards Ysera's return to the Dragon isles to help the Night Elves in finding a new home
rain cave
I read yseras story as being on ice
Like she'll come back to azeroth after a while
When elune let's her
Since she's bound to the sl atm
pulsar minnow
And we don't know when Elune will let her. Yeah maybe far in the future, or maybe very soon
arctic briar
anyone know how big dragon isles are in comparison to the other areas?
rain cave
The phrasing in quest made it sound like far future
pulsar minnow
anyone know how big dragon isles are in comparison to the other areas?
Very big. The Azure Span is one of, if not the biggest zone ever added
arctic briar
thats cool
arctic briar
like modern remade northrend
uncut lintel
BIG DRAGON ZONES R BEST
upper pasture
Very big. The Azure Span is one of, if not the biggest zone ever added
didn't they say it's the biggest zones added since launch
uncut lintel
why is it called the azure span its not owned by azure drakes
or wait is it just one zone named that
pulsar minnow
why is it called the azure span its not owned by azure drakes
Just one zone
uncut lintel
whats the whole zone together called 
am i dumb
pulsar minnow
The entire island is the Dragon Isles
pulsar minnow
I think the farther we get from ShadowLANDS the better
uncut lintel
pulsar minnow
rain cave
THEY MISSED TO NAME IT DRAGONLANDS
Dragon Isles were the name since prevanilla xd
pulsar minnow
these dragon models from the very front look so derpy
rain cave
That's just reptiles in general
uncut lintel
That's just reptiles in general
true
pulsar minnow
Wrathion looks good though
I mean he is apart of the gigachad dragonflight
Also- I feel like Alexstrasza's humanoid model needs some work. Her face just doesn't really look right
Too much like a basic blood elf.
uncut vault
I think its missing its rigging, it looks similar to how Sylvanas' did in her first iteration
pulsar minnow
Remember when they made Sylvanas pink? 😅
uncut lintel
wat
uncut vault
god, that was so terrifying lol
pulsar minnow
Back when I was more active in this discord during early SL development, there was a time when they changed Sylvanas' model to better match the cinematics
and so they changed her skin color
uncut vault
when
for a few builds of the shadowlands alpha, they tried to make sylvanas' skin look like the CGI model
it was not good lol
pulsar minnow
She's also got the blood elf pouty face too
dense plover
i like the chromie finally gets the armor she has had in illustrations and such
took long enough
uncut lintel
want dargonflight nowwws seeing asmon playing darthry 
pulsar minnow
Yeah same. I'm loving the world of this expansion
dense plover
i want to know what endgame looks like first
but it seems like we wont have to wait too long
at most, 6 weeks
uncut lintel
OMG U CAN FLY FOR A BIT AND GLIDE AS DRAHTYR
rain cave
I'm amazed at how out of the loop fur is
cunning fossil
OMG U CAN FLY FOR A BIT AND GLIDE AS DRAHTYR
It's faster than flying regularly if u do it welll
lapis grotto
do u even have df purchased to get the alpha
uncut lintel
no i didnt sign up for alpha i just pre ordered
alpha if for ppl who report bugs and test shit, i think
dense plover
ok, so the big gap of water and then the weird islands off the coast of the plains are marked TMP - meaning theyre going to change
uncut lintel
tf was that
dense plover
a screenshot not working
uncut lintel
dense plover
there we go
its very possible theyre just going to erase these islands unless theyre going to use them for a patch and stuff will rise up from the ocean
amount of painted water/coastline on the right side of the map is also suspicious
uncut lintel
: O
dense plover
i think this is the capitol
uncut vault
ok, so the big gap of water and then the weird islands off the coast of the plai...
well the islands are on the map, at least right now, so they could stay in some form
I wouldnt be surprised if they were saved for patch content though
10.2 onward, since we know what 10.1 is
dense plover
10.2 onward, since we know what 10.1 is
the underground thing that was datamined?
uncut vault
Yeah
dense plover
think this is the temple from the cinematic/at the island center
interesting that there are multiple places for lava on this map
uncut vault
i think this is the capitol
thats tyrhold
pulsar minnow
Sorry what underground thing was datamined?
uncut vault
the latter pic is the capitol, valdrakken
uncut vault
Yeah
uncut vault
Sorry what underground thing was datamined?
dense plover
also interesting that the ice stuff is the farthest south
deep pawn
Oh boy, two underground raids in a row
pulsar minnow
Something like this if a new zone opens up in that gap in the water
dense plover
theres this weird tiny island off the cost WAY to the south
its decorated and everything
dense plover
so i have 2 theories - some scenario or something happens there, or its a place you can get there via dragonflight and theres a reward of somekind
neither of which would be available at this point
its also super interesting that the only desert is a tiny bronze dragon area
when theres so much ice and green and lava
so i think its very possible we get a desert zone as a patch
or something bronze/chromatic related
pulsar minnow
Could be cool if those giant doors opened in the Bronze area leading us into some zone hidden in the timeways
Caverns of time but like, a zone
uncut vault
Well we are getting some fun time adventures
deep pawn
We had way too many leaks about garrosh's escape
tulip sun
So is there any quests in orgrimmar? Allianxeside Wrathion is there and Turalyon/Shaw have a discussion
Havnt seen anything horde
uncut vault
we're going back to the gnoll wars, the black empire, the pandaren revolution
dense plover
we're going back to the gnoll wars, the black empire, the pandaren revolution
that explains the mogu map - my brain couldnt figure it out
also gnoll wars?
ive never heard of that
uncut vault
gnolls vs stormwind
was written in in Chronicle
its basically the reason why Stormwind didnt ask for help with the orcs when they invaded, they saw the other kingdoms as useless after refusing to help in the gnoll wars
pulsar minnow
Imagine if we get to fight Hogger's great great grandfather
pulsar minnow
I feel like Hogger deserves a unique model
His new model doesn't really seem much like Hogger
uncut lintel
gnoll playable race when
rain cave
my friend was saying he wants to see primordial azeroth at some point
before the sundering
deep pawn
They basically just took hoggers hots model it looks like
Or at least used it as inspiration
pulsar minnow
That looks better actually. On Asmongold's stream earlier he passed by Hogger and his model was a generic gnoll.
deep pawn
I'm guessing they cannibalized the hots team right around the start of dragonflight dev cause evokers feel like a mix of brightwing, Alex, and deathwing
And it's also when they put a bunch of sylvs abilities in WoW
rain cave
the HotS team hasn't had artists probably in years
dense plover
That looks better actually. On Asmongold's stream earlier he passed by Hogger an...
they will absolutely do a pass to give hogger an HD unique model
rain cave
or a significant amount of them at least
dense plover
it just hasnt happened yet
uncut vault
yeah the gnoll models definitely arent finished in terms of being assigned properly to old world models
deep pawn
the HotS team hasn't had artists probably in years
Was thinking more just devs in general, but yeah we know hogger was the last model they made
uncut vault
a lot of their little clans are named by fur color, and aren't quite right atm
dense plover
similar thing happened with the quillboar
they fixed them eventually
took a month or two and a few new models
ancient jasper
Heh.. WoWhead was smart to lock the comments on the Inclusiveness post. That would have been a shitshow
deep pawn
Yeah, always gonna nutsos upset at stuff that'll never affect them.
dense plover
i think its neat that they plan to separate character voices
it also means they can eventually add more voice options
uncut vault
I’d really love that, especially as someone whose main is now a dark ranger
Would love to get a more serious elf voice and less valley girl lol
pulsar minnow
I wonder if Dracthyr will have the same voice in Visage and Dragon Form
Or will they be different? Because Alexstrasza's voice gets the reverb in her dragon form while her human form just sounds normal
It would be cool if Dracthyr could pick between all those voice options, and maybe even belf or human since their visage form is based on those races
lapis grotto
playable gnolls when?
rain cave
I’d really love that, especially as someone whose main is now a dark ranger
that would be the best option yeah
but from how I see it alongside the other options I'm wondering it it isn't just being able to choose male/female voice independent from the actual body type
which is yeah just a harmless option but at the same time who's gonna use it lmao
makes me wonder
but multiple voice options even like effects over the normal audio
would be cool
also are dracthyr emotes in the alpha?
I want to hear their voices
mossy meteor
proper crystal
but for example I don't understand what scenario you'd have say, male voice on f...
nonbinary people who want to play a male character but don't like the big beefy male model...
proper crystal
which is yeah just a harmless option but at the same time who's gonna use it lma...
literally me 👀
rain cave
I still don't get it
Because that should just mean we need more body options
Because compromising and playing as a female with a deep masculine voice just feels kinda weird
Like more customization always good don't get me wrong
Just don't understand the use case entirely for a gender swap voice
tulip sun
@uncut vault Do you know if its Wrathion in orgrimmar? (And if there's any dialogue like the Turalyon/Shaw kne)
uncut vault
I don’t, no
rain cave
There's nothing to sjw complain about here
If anything she's still sex appealed at cost of practicality
Imagine walking with those leg pieces digging into your leg
ancient jasper
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/268257-alexstrasza-alexstraza-with-mortal-eyes.jpg
Ehhh
cosmic beacon
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1067259.jpg
She can step on me anyday
subtle oar
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1067259.jpg
All they need to do is show her tummy. Boom, fixed
cosmic beacon
Tru
dense plover
btw i bet they change the 500 mount achievement to the big murloc
instant PR win, no work required
uncut lintel
OH TAHT THING IS CUTE WHAT IS THAT
dense plover
clearly some kind of crystal porcupine
uncut lintel
i wanto ne as a mount
dense plover
btw i hope we get a post on hunters and druids like we did for DKs just now
dense plover
"Much of the inspiration for this zone comes from one of our favorites in Wrath of the Lich King, Grizzly Hills,** along with the California Bay area's coastal fogs and redwoods.**" this actually makes some sense - i dont remember how long ago it was, but i remember seeing some blizzard people tweeting about how nice it was to be out of the LA heat and taking some pics in the bay area
from the loading screens post blue article
uncut lintel
o
dense plover
great image
uncut lintel
cute
dense plover
what did they do to furblog?
uncut lintel
WHTAT TH FUCK SI THAT
dense plover
is this another type like the raccoon ones or are they changing all of them?
uncut lintel
ruined
dense plover
im ok with another type
b/c variety
but if they change the old ones im gonna riot
new professions article
yo - starts off SO strong
"First, we are excited to introduce a brand-new type of bag, the reagent bag! Reagent bags can only hold reagents, following the same rules for what can go in the reagent bank. What is particularly special about these bags is that they will have their own new, dedicated bag slot. In other words, once you get your hands on a reagent bag during your adventures in the Dragon Isles, you will have a large amount of additional inventory space to devote to your gathered and crafted reagents."
this is why there was a new bag slot
"In addition to this new reagent-only bag, we are also increasing the maximum stack size for most crafted and gathered items in Dragonflight. Our current plan is for gathered reagents to stack to 1000 (up from 200), and most crafted consumable items will stack up to 200, up from 20 (e.g., potions, Optional Reagents, Finishing Reagents, etc.). We think these two changes will offset the added inventory space that items with quality will introduce." - max stack size changes
bit disappointed no new reagent bank tab
equipment specifics - "most professions have three slots for equipment— one tool slot, and two accessory slots. "
"You will no longer need to keep a hammer in your inventory if you are a Blacksmith or switch your weapon with your Fishing rod when you want to fish; these items will already be equipped!"
jewelcrafting equipment looks so fucking good!!!!
subtle oar
"You will no longer need to keep a hammer in your inventory if you are a Blacksm...
SO I CAN HAVE MY ANGLERS FISHIGN ROD IN THE SLOT?! :o!
dense plover
yes
also no transmog support for this at launch
but they realize people want it and it will come once there is enough equipment to warrant it
"As mentioned above, Artisan's Mettle is required for recrafting. This reagent is Soulbound and can only be earned in limited quantities through various crafting and gathering activities."
"Besides its use in recrafting, Artisan's Mettle also has various other profession-centric uses. Some of these are for crafting high-end profession equipment, a Finishing Reagent that increases skill when used, and some other profession-benefiting consumables."
so artisans mettle is earned by doing professions
which encourages everyone to do professions
deep pawn
I'm trying to figure out which game I played had a reagent bag built in. Or maybe I'm thinking of the reagent bank.
tulip sun
Saw redshirt tweet. Thanks @uncut vault
deep pawn
Haha, diablo firestomp trinket
upper pasture
Success, seems like I wasn’t the only one that disliked that as the 500 mount reward
ember blaze
does wowhead have that character creator tool for dracthyr?
cunning fossil
They're listening very quickly
deep pawn
Very few people are in this wave
glass flicker
Success, seems like I wasn’t the only one that disliked that as the 500 mount re...
Duck mount pls.
We ride to war, lads. Quack.
ember blaze
@glass flickerupdate on brawlers?
glass flicker
I dunno, gimme an hour.
dense plover
so - turskarr have females and babies now - how long until allied race?
glass flicker
They'd still have to get some rigging work done, so we don't end up with mechagnome 3.0 who can't wear any armour outside the customization menu.
dense plover
i mean - i dont care about armor when we just got drakthyr
i just want a big mustache and tusks
glass flicker
I can already think of a few racials.
glass flicker
Cooking and fishing skill increased
Frost damage taken reduced
Deals bonus damage the slower attack speed they have
Racial is putting down a feast that gives main stat.
cunning fossil
oooh
glass flicker
Scratch that. Bonus damage the slower attack speed or cast time. So haste wouldn't be much of an important stat.
Imagine a Tuskar arms warrior with that passive.
subtle oar
Less than 1% stronger than other races
glass flicker
Indeed. Minmaxers would lose their shit!
deep pawn
Asmongold Eagle Eyed all over the place
he found the banner room and the black banner is black, not purple
subtle oar
Indeed. Minmaxers would lose their shit!
I highly doubt that, as im a minmaxer of a sort and wouldnt care about a less than one percent difference
cunning fossil
OH MY GOD I GET TO HAV E AMASSIVE BAG TOO??
FINALLY!
Well to be fair i wanna see how i like it first
but it looks so cool
I'm so excited oml
glass flicker
@ember blaze nope, Brawler's Guild still down for me.