beta-ptr-spoilers

[cunning fossil]

Ysera

[uncut lintel]

YEA

MAYBE BLIZZ WILL BLESS US FINALLY WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT

[cunning fossil]

Feral would be some sort of Snap dragon
Bear Form would be a bulkier Snapdragon or something
Travel form not too sure
B

[uncut lintel]

in 2 yrs

ofc

[tepid fiber]

tbf, Ysera didn't make them >_>

[uncut lintel]

OMG A SNAPDRAGON

[uncut lintel]

true but still they have emerald dream magic

so maybe

[cunning fossil]

True! But Neltharion did infuse use her magic to create them

And they are able to use Dream magic to some degree

[uncut lintel]

that is why i brought that up in the first place, they said so in the uh reveal

and showed it

drathyr druids so i can still play feral and be last dps in m+

[tepid fiber]

Just playing devil's advocate, but just having the power of the green dragonflight doesn't necessarily make one a druid. Even Malfurion had to learn how to become one

[uncut lintel]

🤔

well maybe they can learn more of it

[tepid fiber]

And Ysera and the other greens may have visage forms, but they do not perform the full array of druidic magic or shapeshifting

[uncut lintel]

ok but

i want a raid boss

that is just druidic

not corrupted either

[plain violet]

Gumball is right about it.

Druid is not a discipline of combat.

It's a philosophy and way of living and Cenarius took great time to explain that because you can use nature magic, do not make you a druid.

Guardians of Cenarius, dryads, aren't druids for example.

[uncut lintel]

so me putting a bandaid on a leaf doesnt make me a druid?

damn

[plain violet]

Sadly, not!

[uncut lintel]

ok but still

it would be cool

it is fantasy after all and things can change

[plain violet]

Dwelving on the druid lore could be a nice thing, I am eager to see how they will talk about the Dream.

[uncut lintel]

who knows maybe at end of games life they will let u be any class/race combo

i hope they do

more druid stuff is best stuff

[plain violet]

Yeah. The Emerald Dream is one of the best things of the game, in its poetic sense.

[uncut lintel]

and its so rpetty

pretty

[plain violet]

It is! Did you have seen the emerald paradise from the artbook?

[uncut lintel]

NO WHAT

THERES AN ARTBOOK

?

WHERE

[cunning fossil]

With the physical pre-order

130 bucks i think

[uncut lintel]

fuck that

[strange falcon]

the first time foxy doesnt buy something on the blizzard shop

even 130bucks is too much to ask for her

[uncut lintel]

max is 90 for me lol

[ember blaze]

Someone on the wow forums really argued with me the allied races had more work done on them than the dracthyr

Cause you can see chest and boots on them

[cunning fossil]

Lol

Lmao

Your first mistake was going on the forums

[strange falcon]

wow forums are like twitter, they share a single braincell, even i can recognize that

oh wow look at that more money squeezing from blizzard, color me not impressed
https://www.wowhead.com/news/nether-gorged-greatwyrm-is-new-6-month-wow-subscription-mount-327644

[uncut lintel]

right when i cant get it

[ember blaze]

Wow tokens too expensive atm

[upper pasture]

man, i've never been one for 6 month sub but i like this mount.

[tepid fiber]

Remember him??

Now he's all grownt up

[uncut lintel]

aww

haha

cute

[glass flicker]

Would've looked cooler if he was see-through like in that cinematic.

[tepid fiber]

That was also a baby. Nether-gorged implies that this boi got big off of Outland juice

[uncut lintel]

ye true motivated

its an alright mount

might get it in december

its not a cat so im like o.o ok

[glass flicker]

But we'll have another store mount to disappoint ourselves with by then.

[uncut lintel]

if it wasa cat id be muted rn

what

im not dissapointed

wsell maybe a litle

i want more detailed mounts

not store

[strange falcon]

i believe that's a sentiment everyone shares, but they make more store mounts, while the game only gets 10 recolors of the same mount, because it makes more money

its really simple how it works

[uncut lintel]

: ( yea

my argument is still, they will still make money by releasing unique models and stuff in the store but also put the same effort into the game itself, people will still buy a unique dragon or whatever if its in the store, idk why detail matters so much to not be put into the real game but whatevs

like higher res is good thing for everything

[strange falcon]

why put effort in the game, people are gonna buy it anyway regardless of the quality, look at all the DF preorders rolling in before there's even an alpha out

as i think lehrdaniel said, "gamers are the worst thing about gaming"

[uncut lintel]

yea but still

doesnt hurt

im that one person who likes to see every singular scale on my mouint LOL

[strange falcon]

it hurts their bottom line because they have to put more resources into the game

[uncut lintel]

psh thats a funny joke

they dont even do that now

havent done that since legion ended

[strange falcon]

you said "put that same effort in the game itself" so yes it is a funny joke

[uncut lintel]

blizzards that one joke at a clown fest no one laughs at

[strange falcon]

yet they still sell out the hotcakes regardless and that's all they care about

[uncut lintel]

: (

[cosmic beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/113103747126747136/996468673801891880/IMG_5292.jpg
@uncut lintel

[uncut lintel]

omg LOL

[plain violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697563296357679174/996469405217210488/SPOILER_unknown.png

A possible leak from the alpha.

[cosmic beacon]

monkaw

whoever leaked that if real

is deadge

[proper palm]

Ah yes.. Another Belf shit

[upper pasture]

not my catch phrase but i agree with it

[urban spire]

Possible leak? That’s literally just a a leak

[tepid fiber]

I'm not a belf player either but you don't have to be a jerk just because it isn't something designed for you

[urban spire]

There’s no way that’s fake

[upper pasture]

AN EXTRA BAG SLOT!

[cunning fossil]

AY

[upper pasture]

SAA

AYYY

[urban spire]

New ui is so clean

[cunning fossil]

Fire beam

Frost be

Beam

A defensive

[urban spire]

It really is making the game look a lot fresher

[cunning fossil]

Rocks

[proper palm]

Should there be something not designed for Belfs in fact..

[upper pasture]

yo that retractable buff bar looks nice too

[cunning fossil]

Agree

[uncut lintel]

wtf

is that real

[cunning fossil]

The UI looks so good

[uncut lintel]

IS IT REAL

[cunning fossil]

And you can adjust it PER spec??

[upper pasture]

we don't know foxy

[uncut lintel]

I HOPE WE GET MORE BAG SLOTS EVEN HAVING 4 30+ SLOTS ISNT ENOUGH

[signal bone]

looks fake

[urban spire]

I wouldn’t be surprised if blizzard adds more visages to the dracthyr eventually

[uncut lintel]

my screen needs to be filled with just bags with i hit the word B

[urban spire]

Even if just the bodies of other races

[uncut lintel]

yea

[signal bone]

no way are they doing another combo point class

[uncut lintel]

lol

[upper pasture]

idk man, that's the new action bar end caps

[uncut lintel]

not sure how ocombo point is gnna work for caster

or is the dps spec meele

[urban spire]

Looks more like chi

Not combat points

[plain violet]

That's surely not finished, there is a WIP look to it. I also do not think it's a combo system, the orbs are filled outside combat.

Seem more like something you use, yes.

But the icons are clearly unique, that's clean, the map too..

[signal bone]

I mean, chi are basically combo points

[uncut lintel]

we will find out

[signal bone]

it's all just basic builder spender stuff

[proper palm]

I love the 3 mount icons

[urban spire]

Chi is more like runes than combo points

[upper pasture]

nice minimal UI clickable to hide buffs and an extra bag slot. i like this

[urban spire]

Are more like*

But yeah builder spender most likely

[cunning fossil]

Combo point esque?

[proper palm]

Just hope we don't have mana like arcane 😰 If we have combo like paladin, it's ok

[uncut vault]

I doubt mana will matter for them any more than fire/frost mage

or ret paladin

mostly just for healing, which you can see on those bars

[rain cave]

if this is a legit leak and it does look fr

and they leaked it with their characters name on display

they fucked

[plain violet]

Yes, that's pretty busted for them.. :/

We will see in the next days.

[rain cave]

what's the source?

like where was the image found

[harsh wedge]

I've seen "italian wow facebook group"

for the source

[rain cave]

the italians are behind this?

[subtle oar]

Someone broke their NDA

[plain violet]

Yes I talked about it. ^^'

[harsh wedge]

The chat a few lines up was about it

[subtle oar]

Cool

[rain cave]

or maybe it's from a presentation?

what's the red arrow for

it's just pointing at a bag slot

[cunning fossil]

To point it out

Lol

[harsh wedge]

Maybe showing it to a friend or something and the friend leaked it

[rain cave]

is it a new bag slot or something

or maybe just pointing at the new UI elements

[upper pasture]

it is another bag slot yes

[harsh wedge]

Possible but the only "new" thing from what was shown in the expansion reveal is that new bag slot

[upper pasture]

we might get a 6th bag slot

[rain cave]

nice

maybe it is from some kind of presentation then?

[harsh wedge]

Too random for a presentation

[rain cave]

since wouldn't there be other characters in an alpha

[harsh wedge]

The other characters ?

[upper pasture]

wouldn't be surprised if we see a reagent only bag slot for prof stuff, kinda like the big old school bags but no choice on if we want a normal bag or them just them only

[rain cave]

unless this is like an instanced version of valdrakken after dracthyr starting zone

[harsh wedge]

No way to know so far

[rain cave]

he ain't even picked up the flight point behind him

[harsh wedge]

Can just mean it is jus tafter dracthyr intro and he got teleported right there and took the screenshot

[rain cave]

also it looks like the green dragon sprouting AOE heal is class wide not spec specific

[rain cave]

ye

[harsh wedge]

Could also just be a placeholder and they took the same image

7 and 9 buttons are the only others (with the mount from kyrian) that are already used after all

[rain cave]

mount from kyrian?

[ember blaze]

It's probably the things that let you charge spells?

[rain cave]

that's not kyrian mount

[harsh wedge]

At the right of the three dragon mounts

isn't it ?

[rain cave]

I see a mouth

like an armoured wolf or something

[ember blaze]

i see horns

[languid yoke]

that's a larion

[rain cave]

might be the other dragon type

yeah

since it's next to all the other dragonriding types

[rain cave]

tf

[harsh wedge]

that's a mount from the kyrian zone, if you prefer

[rain cave]

oh

I thought you meant like

the mech moutns

from kyrian

I forgot kyrians even had animal mounts

thought they just used mechs

[ember blaze]

no

[plain violet]

Possible... or reward full charge spells, or allow them. So that would be a triple mechanic...

[harsh wedge]

There are both, you even have to choose a champion from the command table between one that trains the mechs and one that trains the beasts

[ember blaze]

idk what you mean 🤔

[rain cave]

that's what I was thinking

[uncut lintel]

[rain cave]

needing the orbs to charge an ability

but idk

could also be to build up for things like their big breath attack

[ember blaze]

i swear if it's just, build 5 orbs and spend again 🛌

[plain violet]

Yeah I think that could be to balance and avoid just always full charge.

[ember blaze]

but i assume youll just have spells to generate charges

[plain violet]

At least it seem to start "full" and not empty.

[harsh wedge]

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=58103/pride-or-unit That quest

[uncut lintel]

oh

[ember blaze]

you get a follower from that quest

depending on who you support

@uncut lintelskipping out on quests

[uncut lintel]

u think i care about any other convenant except night fae

ur crazy

[glass flicker]

You can just get some alts to do the different covenants.

Kyrian warrior, Necrolord monk, Venthyr hunter, Night Fae druid. Just an example.

[cunning fossil]

Imagine playing meta combos

Venthyr Warloco

Now that's good

[uncut lintel]

i dont wanna play alts

i hate alts in SL

[glass flicker]

You don't have to actively play them. Just get them to 50, buy the renown 60 item, and spam dungeons to level 60. You'll easily be renown 80 by then.

[uncut lintel]

no

im to lazy

[glass flicker]

Enjoy your Dracthyr in DF, then.

[uncut lintel]

YES

I WILL

S GNNA BE THE BEST DAY EVER

[upper pasture]

Hold up, that might not be a 6th bag slot it might be a bag hide button like the buffs have but that first bag isn’t out normal bag so many they will finally let us have 5 upgradable bags instead of the normal one then 4 of our choice

[rain cave]

but isn't the normal bag the biggest one?

[languid yoke]

no?

it's just 16 (20) slots

[upper pasture]

yup it's 16 slot or 20 if you had auth to your account

[cunning fossil]

Yeah regular Tiny bag is plain shiy

[rain cave]

guess I've never had good bags then

since my main backpack has always been my biggest to memory

😂

bags are expensive yo

[cunning fossil]

The 32 slots are like

2k a pop rn right?

Less than that?

[rain cave]

idk

haven't checked since legion or WoD

and back then I didn't have that kinda gold to spare

since I'm hopeless at making gold no matter how hard I try

[cunning fossil]

You can get gold very passively by doing callings and selling whatever crap you find on the AH

I don't think I've ever really farmed a ton

And I have 250k+

GRABTED

[rain cave]

bruh

I would struggle to get flasks reliably

idk how people passively make so much

professions have been so hard for a single person to break into historically

even if I wanted to do them they've never panned out

don't have the upfront gold to level them

or if I do I don't make any money

hoping DF will fix that

[ivory meadow]

????

[cunning fossil]

I can't enlarge it

Pls explain

Wayward

[rain cave]

looks like a 9.2.7 build on wow3

[cunning fossil]

Oooh sweet

Wait I thought that was already a thing tho?

[rain cave]

not sure

[cunning fossil]

As someone with Engineerring as their main profession

I feel u dude

[upper pasture]

400g?

[ivory meadow]

I am confused as to why the 10.0 patch was reverted a 9.2.7 patch

[cunning fossil]

Oh wow really??

[rain cave]

was it?

[cunning fossil]

Shit I gotta check

[rain cave]

I thought wow3 was ptr

[ivory meadow]

no

that's Vendor 2

[languid yoke]

PTR already was on 9.2.7 ye

[ivory meadow]

Vendor 3 is a new vendor that got created shortly before DF was announced

[upper pasture]

Yup NA best for bags lol 😂 at least we got something. At release bags are high like 2k but now they are dirt cheap I’ve seen them go for like 150g rarely too

but i guess this will be changing with the AH changes soon too right?

[ember blaze]

theyre 2-300 gold on my server

30 slots are 100g

[cunning fossil]

Oh neat

Are there bigger bags?

I'm also tempted to make one of my bags an Engineering supply only bag

[ember blaze]

theyve been 32 for years

[cunning fossil]

I thought it was 36

When are they gonna make profession bags like

Bigger and.maybe even separate to other bags

[dense plover]

interesting that the 6 month mount is not the jumbo murloc

i wonder if theyre saving it for an emergency

[proper palm]

100%

[uncut vault]

I honestly dont think it ever was a 6 month sub mount

the image had it bundled with murkastrasza, so it was probably originally blizzcon virtual ticket since that's where murlocs come from

[ember blaze]

I hope they add it as an in game reward

instead of a paywall

[strange falcon]

blizzcon reward for next one

[strange falcon]

unfortunately your hope is mostly likely not gonna land in reality because the only mounts allowed ingame are recolors not unique

[ivory meadow]

Dafire.

please for the love of all that is holy at least be a little less pessimistic. The constancy of it is really started to become tiring and overstaying it's welcome. Skepticism is ok, but for fuck's sake...

[glass flicker]

So, I was looking at the trailer with the ducks in it and a thought crossed my mind.

A PvP duck mount. Vicious War Duck.

We ride to war, lads.

[cunning fossil]

Syyyy

[upper pasture]

but also for all those recolors the first one isn't a recolor....ya know?

[upper pasture]

i'd certainly try to get that pvp mount

[glass flicker]

Yes.

[uncut vault]

also consider: Vicious Dragonfrog

[glass flicker]

Quack, quack, Horde filth.

/Alliance dog.

Whichever you prefer.

[uncut vault]

if we cant ride one of these into battle, is dragonflight really worth it as an xpac

[glass flicker]

Is that a Bufonid?

[uncut vault]

same skeleton, yeah

[glass flicker]

They look so fat, I love 'em.

[ember blaze]

and with conquest gear being the same for everyone.... Sign me up 😎

[upper pasture]

huh

[glass flicker]

Blizzard: awards some cool gear, a title, and exclusive tabards. I sleep.
Blizzard: awards a PvP duck mount. Me: real shit?

Let's sign a petition for the first PvP mount of Dragonflight to be the Vicious War Duck.

[ember blaze]

did yall know the brawlers guild from bfa is still available

[glass flicker]

It's not.

[upper pasture]

no?

[ember blaze]

i did it yesterday

i died to that panda with the wave and gave up

[glass flicker]

Maybe you purchased a brawl with coins?

[ember blaze]

ive never done that content ever before

i got some bags after each match

which gave me coins

which i never had before

[glass flicker]

I'm pretty sure brawls have been deactivated this expansion.

[ember blaze]

and i was watching a vid about it

[glass flicker]

I'll have to check back with you.

[ember blaze]

and i saw the dude could see vendors to buy cards from

But I could not see those NPCs

[glass flicker]

Sounds fake, gotta check later.

[ember blaze]

@glass flickersomeone on the forums said it was up and pp lsaid the same thing

so i went

i talked to the npc and it said it was closed for renovation

But my shaman was still in the place

So i logged in the next day

cause tables

and since i was still in there

I saw people in the arena

I talked to the npc and it put me in line

[glass flicker]

I should probably keep the ring from the Brawler's Guild. A free Orgrimmar teleport.

I have, in total, 4 teleportation items.

[ember blaze]

see

[glass flicker]

Jaina's Locket, Hellscream's Reach tabard, guild cloak, and Legion Dalaran ring.

Time to get the Brawler's Guild ring as well.

[ember blaze]

i made this character in shadowlands

[glass flicker]

Huh. I'll go check the guild in the morning. I'm at work atm.

[ember blaze]

do you know why it wasnt available the day before?

cause yesterday it was, the day before it wasnt

ama go see right now

(ive never done this place before)

[dense plover]

huh

vendor 3 is back on 9.2.7

[ember blaze]

@dense ploveris that a bad sign for 2022 release

[dense plover]

some images leaked

evoker

[ember blaze]

yes

[ember blaze]

yeah we were talking about that

[dense plover]

did you see this one?

[ember blaze]

si

[dense plover]

hunter

oop

wrong image

there we go

i realize im late

but the new bag slot makes sense

its probably impossible to make bags bigger

[ivory meadow]

welp, someone getting banned from events.

[dense plover]

oh for sure

theyre probably not going to get alpha access now

unless this was internal

[rich elm]

It’s likely someone who’s a family member that doesn’t know better

[ember blaze]

why would they show their names and stuff 🤔

[ivory meadow]

it's just a matter of time; not if, when.

[uncut vault]

wonder why this ones so much higher quality

[dense plover]

source vs second hand probably

[ember blaze]

@dense ploverwhy is that image so big

i cant even repost it

[dense plover]

i got mine from the wow.trace discord and they probably got it from whoever leaked it

or possibly from someone at the event?

idk

but its definitely legit

[proper palm]

"Meet wrathion in Stormwind"

[ember blaze]

i need nitro cause limitations on upload xd

[dense plover]

also that bar sucks for level 60 - theres free slots and some of those slots are mounts - ive gotta hope they dont have any talents selected

looking at it, im pretty sure they dont

that image is also higher quality b/c its a png not a jpeg

[ember blaze]

my shaman could use some free slots

[uncut vault]

huh, something I just noticed

[dense plover]

do you notice how evoker has some kind of chi sphere thing?

[uncut vault]

the minimap goes by the direction you're facing now

[dense plover]

also minimap is bigger and its nice

[uncut vault]

not by cardinals

[ember blaze]

i just assume one orb = one charge spell

[dense plover]

thats gotta be a toggle

[uncut vault]

I hope that's just an option and not forced

[dense plover]

i fucking hate rotating maps

they make me nauseous - literally

its actually disorienting

i cant imagine it isnt a toggle

is it not an option on live?

[ember blaze]

@glass flicker see

i can queue up right now

[glass flicker]

You on NA?

[ember blaze]

ya

horde

how do i survive this wave

[upper pasture]

kill them first

[ember blaze]

it freezes me and leaves me at 10% hp through astral shift

[uncut vault]

just checked, turns out it is

TIL

[ember blaze]

@glass flicker

those card npcs arent there

[glass flicker]

Huh. You know what, I'm happy it's back. I've been moaning about it since Shadowlands launch.

[ember blaze]

might be a bug 🤷‍♂️

the forum post that made me check it out said it was just disabled on alliance

but like i mentioned before, there was a day it wasnt up

and that was on the day i saw the forum post

[upper pasture]

weird i too hope it stays up i need that heirloom

[ember blaze]

what do i use these coins for?

the vendor only sells stuff for gold

🤮

[glass flicker]

Those would be the best gloves in the game if not for the dumb elbow pads just floating there, requiring bracers to look attached to your character.

[uncut vault]

bit on the flip side, theyre also great bracers models, which is a rarity

[glass flicker]

I'd love the option to just turn off the elbow pads so that I could use the gloves only.

[uncut lintel]

that mog is digusting

[cunning fossil]

I do be hoping for Anduin too

[uncut lintel]

maybe he slept in late

on anduins side of the bed

[cunning fossil]

Lol

Gay moment better happen. Or I riot

[uncut lintel]

istg if they introduce a female just to stop our gayness ship

: (

ANDUIN AND WRATHION, FOREVER, TAKING IT OMY GRAVE

[cunning fossil]

Lmao true

[uncut lintel]

my tombstone is gonna have every ship ive ever shipped on it when i die

and these 2 will be second

[cunning fossil]

Lmai

Who's first?

[uncut lintel]

bumblebee x knockout : P

cuzi m weird

[rich elm]

Isn’t Anduin in the Maw?

[uncut lintel]

whats the maw? shadowlands didnt happen mate

[glass flicker]

I kinda want Tess Greymane and Lorna Crowley to get together. Lesbian power couple.

[rich elm]

S FB hgd

[cunning fossil]

He visited Sylvanas but then he came back out

[glass flicker]

And an interesting Gilnean leadership.

[uncut lintel]

r u ok

[cunning fossil]

Oh damn based

Good shit

[uncut lintel]

we keep on winning everywhere else, now let WoW be the next

[rich elm]

Sorry I keymash to express my laughter sometimes

[cunning fossil]

Lol

[uncut lintel]

its ok ido that all the time

[cunning fossil]

I concur

[uncut lintel]

ODFOJAOWJ FJOSA JSO

[rich elm]

I never thought of shipping characters in wow before

[glass flicker]

Oh, come on. Now you're lying.

[rich elm]

I literally only have 1 ship because I’m not much of a shipper 😭

[uncut lintel]

then its time to get started

[glass flicker]

You did think of Thrall x Jaina before.

[uncut lintel]

LOL

EWWW

EVERYTIME SOMEONE BRINGS THAT UP I PUK

E

[glass flicker]

XD

[rich elm]

I’m new to Wow I have no idea actually

[ember blaze]

anduin and bolvar's daughter

[glass flicker]

My biggest WoW ship is Whitemane + my warrior, so, y'know.

[uncut lintel]

i feel like jaina is bi, having her be with a fire mage tho just bcuz would be cute if shes not canonly in a current relationship

idk alot abt lore so

not sure whos marrying who nowadays

[glass flicker]

Jaina dated Kalecgos.

[uncut lintel]

yea but didnt he die

:w

[glass flicker]

What?

No?

[ember blaze]

almost there

[uncut lintel]

he turned big evil bad dragon

[glass flicker]

I said Kalec. Not Malygos.

[rich elm]

BRB gonna be annoying on the WoW forums and ask for in game marriage/jk

[uncut lintel]

but kalec isnt a fire mage hes an arcane addict

[glass flicker]

Kalec is even in Dragonflight.

What?

That's Kael'thas.

[uncut lintel]

IM CONFUSED

IGNORE ME

[cunning fossil]

Lmao

[glass flicker]

Are you high?

[uncut lintel]

im usually short

[rich elm]

Yea dragon flight name suffixes are hard

[glass flicker]

Anyway...

Jaina dated a prince, and a dragon. Nothing is good for her picky arse.

[uncut lintel]

maybe just everyone gets on her nerves

[glass flicker]

Stop simping for Jaina™

[uncut lintel]

ok but alex still takes the cake of hottest

[glass flicker]

Nah.

Whitemane.

[rich elm]

Imagine what a flex that is… “one of my exs is a dragon”

[uncut lintel]

ok maybe maybe whitemane

its a hard tie

wait did i spell that right

tye

tie

ty

[glass flicker]

Whitemane is waifu material.

[uncut lintel]

whitemanes thighs youre right tho

[glass flicker]

White hair check. Red eyes check. Thicc check.

[uncut lintel]

ptr spoilers into hottest chicc spoilers

we ruined

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/inquisitor-whitemane-whitemane-inquisitor-mograine-migraine-gif-18547663

[uncut lintel]

i want her transmog

[glass flicker]

Cindercloth.

[uncut lintel]

yea but it dont have the long thingy

infront

[glass flicker]

But her chest piece has tabard flaps.

[uncut lintel]

the...

yea

[glass flicker]

Yeah.

And her hat removes your hair. Sucks.

Can't have shit in transmogs.

That face though.

[ember blaze]

@cunning fossiloh and there was a limited time rare bag with 34 slots in the sl pre patch

EZ 😎

wtf

the tabard is a nice mog option

[rain cave]

Neltharion minutes before turning into deathwing

[cunning fossil]

Got one on my main!

Lol

[uncut lintel]

@glass flicker ok but hopefully in df we can literally have helms still show hair dude

please

its not that hard blizz

[tropic trail]

@ember blaze

Any new rewards for Brawlers guild?

[ember blaze]

@tropic trailit's the BFA stuff

[tropic trail]

Meh

No new mount

[ember blaze]

idk if you can get the bfa mount either 🤔

havent found a questline

[terse bone]

say what you want but i belive that whitmane better is than sylvanas

eventhough not in power

[glass flicker]

Why are you saying that like I will disagree with you?

Whitemane is the top WoW waifu, for me. Sylvanas is bottom tier.

[terse bone]

thank you

i stand in here command

[glass flicker]

I'd join the Scarlet Crusade for Whitemane.

[terse bone]

same

[glass flicker]

Screw the Forsaken, paint me red.

[uncut lintel]

I agree Whitemane is up top over sylvanas

[terse bone]

well i kinda alrady did

[glass flicker]

WoW has many waifus. But in my top three are:
1 Whitemane
2 Lorna Crowley
3 Lilian Voss

Can you guess fourth place?

[terse bone]

who ?

[glass flicker]

Valeera Sanguinar, obviously.

[terse bone]

are u going to be playinf wotlk ?

couse if you do i have an idea

[glass flicker]

No

[terse bone]

oh

what do u lay then ?

play*

[glass flicker]

I'll just play Retail. I already share one brain cell with my entire guild. Don't need that on Classic, too.

[terse bone]

hmm

[rain cave]

where is chromie

[terse bone]

and thinking about jaina

[glass flicker]

Two spots higher than Sylvanas.

[rain cave]

how is whitemane even a waifu actually

she's like

[glass flicker]

And Jaina is also bottom tier.

[rain cave]

evil

and not even attractive

[glass flicker]

That woman cannot be satisfied.

She dated a prince and a dragon.

Broke up with both.

[rain cave]

chromie is great though

[glass flicker]

I don't like Chromie. She's annoying, especially in Heroes of the Storm.

[rain cave]

how is she annoying

[glass flicker]

Have you ever played a HotS match against one?

[rain cave]

HotS isn't canon

but yes

[glass flicker]

It's not canon, but their abilities in that game show what they could theoretically do. Right?

And Chromie is cringe to play against.

[rain cave]

we're not talking about gameplay

we're talking about their character

😐

[glass flicker]

Oh. Then, her voice. Squeaky anime voices are just...

[rain cave]

good thing she doesn't have one

[terse bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406285497846071306/996547931006062703/ece7e0d51825de47d00e0f248269d9c2.jpg

how is that not hot ?

[rain cave]

I hate the cutesy type voices

chromie isn't really cutesy

[strange falcon]

you should see the heroes of the storm model for her

[rain cave]

just isn't

like it really doesn't give me anything

[glass flicker]

Chromie isn't cutesy? Then what is she, Santa Claus?

[rain cave]

well how IS she cutesy

if that's what you think

[glass flicker]

For one, she chose to be a gnome, of all races. Small and cute. Her voice definitely gives off anime girl vibes. And her dragon form is still a whelping, despite the fact that she is older than Wrathion.

[rain cave]

gnomes ain't cute

and she doesn't sound anime to me

and I haven't seen her dragon form yet tbf

[glass flicker]

She's older than Wrathion and chooses to stay a whelping. While Wrathion grew into a full-fledged drake.

Just do the Deaths of Chromie scenario.

[rain cave]

I did

I have the tmog

I finished it

I don't remeber anything to do with her drake form in that

[glass flicker]

Bro, are you high?

Have you never mounted in the scenario?

She literally follows you in her dragon form, and it's a whelping.

[rain cave]

guess i didn't notice

🤷‍♂️

not a thing I would remember/notice

since whenever I mount up to fly I just alt tab

because flying boring atm

hence why I am hyped for dragonriding

[glass flicker]

Good job.

[rain cave]

regardless

it doesn't seem relevant to me

chromie is a banger character

always happy when she shows up

[glass flicker]

I'm neutral to aggressively disinterested in her. She seems to just mess things up when she shows up.

[rain cave]

how so

[glass flicker]

She was literally called a bad dragon in the deaths of Chromie scenario. I'm almost fairly certain she will be an infinite dragon we will fight later.

[rain cave]

she:
lets us do chromie time levelling
helped us track down what happened with the bronze dragon at the start of WoD
and asked us for help to not die

and is the one who advertised classic for those who care about that

[glass flicker]

A loud minority.

[rain cave]

I think chromie is uncorruptable

I hope she is

fits her character

[glass flicker]

Why do you think she would be, if even Kalec could be corrupted by a demon?

[rain cave]

I would even potentially bet on her becoming the new bronze aspect

kalec was being controlled/manipulated

[glass flicker]

Even Ysera was corrupted.

[rain cave]

infinites are of their own free will

they choose to swap over to infinite

[glass flicker]

No dragon is incorruptible.

[rain cave]

i mean

[glass flicker]

What are you on about?

[rain cave]

there is the black prince u kno

[uncut vault]

Chromie isn’t becoming infinite for the same reason Sylvanas is never dying: marketing

[glass flicker]

Nazdormu was driven insane by Old Gods into becoming Murozond.

[upper pasture]

She’s kinda a too ditzy to be corrupted I think but that’s just her character

[rain cave]

we don't know that

[uncut vault]

She’s the uncomplicated dragon character to put in pretty much any story

[rain cave]

all we know is that they are void aligned

[glass flicker]

🤦‍♂️

[rain cave]

but people align with the void of their own will

too

not just by being corrupted

but we haven't seen nozdormu turn into murozond yet

so we don't know the cause

[glass flicker]

I'm losing brain cells in real time with you.

[rain cave]

how

I'm just giving you what's in-game

🤷‍♂️

part of the mystery of this xpac is seeing if, when and how murozond is created

[rain cave]

to close that loop

[glass flicker]

Well, Deathwing's body wasn't that decayed in the End Time dungeon, so...

Maybe it's time for Nazdormu to freak out.

[rain cave]

end time is an alternate timeline

[uncut lintel]

i want nazdormu to be a raid boss

[rain cave]

not a vision of the future

idk it would be counter-productive to me

because if we beat him he wouldn't die

he'd have to escape at the end

[glass flicker]

What?

[rain cave]

otherwise how would we meet him in end time

[uncut lintel]

to kill him

[rain cave]

unless we rewrite the entire infinite timeline

and parallel universes

w/e

[glass flicker]

You said it yourself. Alternate timeline.

[rain cave]

alternate timeline created by the infinite

[glass flicker]

Parallel timelines have been proven already by WoD.

[rain cave]

that's their schtick

every alternate timeline was made by an infinite

or opened by one

[glass flicker]

So Murozond can die twice. Just that, this time, it's our version.

[rain cave]

but was the one in end time not our version?

nozdormu seemed convinced it was

[glass flicker]

And he said that the cycle will repeat, and we will kill him again.

[rain cave]

like that's what I mean it's a mystery

[glass flicker]

Over and over.

[rain cave]

we don't know what will happen

if he will even become murozond

[glass flicker]

He literally said it.

[rain cave]

in our time

[glass flicker]

Do End Time again.

[rain cave]

already did it

a few times actually

[glass flicker]

I don't buy it.

[uncut lintel]

what r u guys debating about

[rain cave]

I'm just saying part of the mystery in DF is seeing if/when/how murozond is made

[uncut lintel]

the old gods cor-- oh wait we cant use that one anymor

[rain cave]

and that I could see chromie to be the kind of uncorruptable bronze dragon to take over as aspect

[upper pasture]

Don’t the old gods never truly die?

[rain cave]

well depends

[glass flicker]

And why would she be incorruptible? I'm simply going by the Deaths of Chromie scenario, and she was called bad there.

Cue the bad dragon jokes.

[rain cave]

c'thun apparently could be resurrected, yogg's body is apparently still alive but we killed his brain, nzoth's essence is in the black blade but his body is dead

[uncut vault]

I’m pretty sure she’s called bad by a literal insane person

[rain cave]

^

what I was gonna say

[uncut vault]

I don’t think that matters much lol

[glass flicker]

Or maybe the Deaths of Chromie was orchestrated by Chromie, herself.

[rain cave]

like obv crazy people have predicted things before

ilgynoth

etc

[pulsar minnow]

It was by a Dreadlord

[rain cave]

deaths of chromie was orchestrated by a dreadlord as far as we know wasn't it

yeah

but yeah chromie seems to be the kind of character that they would TRY to corrupt as a story plot but she'd just be like "nah I'm good"

from a meta perspective

the trope of too pure to be stained

[pulsar minnow]

What I'm interested by is whether or not DF is going to have a cohesive narrative. From what I can tell, the Dracthyr have reawakened to combat the Primals. But they're only the first raid, where do we go after?

[rain cave]

wherever the winds of adventure take us

🧀

[pulsar minnow]

Fair enough

[rain cave]

and idk how I feel about the light invasion theory with alt universe yrel because that means opening up WoD lore again

and time travel

[uncut vault]

I kind of assume the main plot will be surrounding the aspects being re-empowered

[rain cave]

bronze dragons will be a plotpoint ofc but

[uncut vault]

And eventually blessing the new world tree by the end of the xpac when it’s planted

[rain cave]

I could definitely see there being an element of understanding or empathy for primalists and the half giant people

[uncut vault]

Especially since the exploring EK book soft retcons the original Ulduman into us just disabling Archaedas, not killing him

[rain cave]

we're going down the story route of mortals (us) being the only ones who can save ourselves, rejecting the cosmics forces as they come to take over our planet

[uncut vault]

And he’s the last keeper we need for blessing the aspects

[rain cave]

ever since legion that's been a plotpoint

illidan telling us there is no chosen one, shirking off his cosmic destiny and saying we need to save ourselves

BfA realizing the titans weren't so pure hearted, that azeroth is special and the forces want to use it

as well as showing the light being more evil

etc

hinting at cosmo war with azshara

shadowlands showing us the flawed design/order

and a bunch of other stuff

next world tree is powered by mortals this time, not just some cosmic blessing

we've humanized the afterlife and undone the flawed design there

the primalists even have a point even if they are bad

why should we trust the titans and accept their blessing

when every other force wants to just use the planet

[upper pasture]

Yeah why would we trust the beings of order

[cunning fossil]

Nani

[crimson jasper]

very true, tho maybe azeroth herself will "repower" the dragons this time, doesnt make it any more trustworthy but least it's the ball of mud we live on so

[glass flicker]

I feel lied to. @ember blaze

You said Brawler's Guild is up. I went and checked.

[ember blaze]

@glass flicker I told you there was a day it was closed

[glass flicker]

Oh. Fair.

[deep pawn]

so, looks like thursday was right eh?

[ivory meadow]

it's not thursday yet.

[deep pawn]

Yeah, I don't see it launching today

[ivory meadow]

but one of the wow vendor versions did get updated to a 10.0 build if anyone is desperate for any news

still encrypted though as usual.

[ember blaze]

@glass flickermust be you

are you alliance?

is there a chance it's a phasing thing?

so maybe it's only up for horde

[glass flicker]

I'll try again tomorrow.

Might just be an NA thing.

[ember blaze]

@glass flickertry a horde alt as well

[uncut lintel]

HES DABBING

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-dab-poop-eating-booger-eating-dump-gif-21558188

[dense plover]

Main vendor has a 10.0 build now

So it’s very likely that alpha is approaching

[uncut lintel]

LETS GOOO CMON LETS GO CLOSER TO DRAGONFLIGHT RELEASE

alpha, then beta, then ptr, then DSDJSO

i probably got the order wrong

[glass flicker]

PTR then NA servers then EU servers.

Thanks for testing.

NA is the PTR for EU.

[ivory meadow]

it probably is thursday then

not confident that it's today; feels too late.

[languid yoke]

idk beta/ptr builds very often happen at 1-2 AM when I'm asleep

[ivory meadow]

all that needs to happen now is a flick of a switch.

[pulsar minnow]

I feel like they would have made some sort of announcement by now. I still think we'll get Beta thursday (since SL had thursday updates and all), it's just weird how little Blizz has talked about it

[ember blaze]

pretty much everyone expects somethign tomorrow

and big content creators all allude to something tomorrow

Like Max streaming super early and "feeling" something will happen

[normal tendon]

I love seeing this kind of discussion like it's too late it happens around 1-2 Am and living in France it's pretty much the hour Thursday for me and not paying attention I started to hype myself a lot then realise the 1-2 am u are speaking about is in 9-10 hours

[languid yoke]

I'm German

[rain cave]

Worse I'm British

Xddd

[dense plover]

we are passing the ptr window at this point'

if the leak was real, then yeah, tomorrow

[languid yoke]

ye

[cunning fossil]

Ayo

@dense plover
Looks like our general feedback has been addressed for survival? (I think that's what I'm getting from the blue post)

Alpha tomorrow yess

Hopwfully

Why are shadow priests malding btw?

[ember blaze]

I think the main thing is where things are placed, some abilities looking terrible to pick

searing nightmare being disliked by them all

[dense plover]

i think we will see LOTS of big changes to the talent trees

and i absolutely believe that they will reduce the number of 3 point talents

i think any they keep will be off to the side or wont be prereq nodes

[cunning fossil]

Yeah I agree

[cunning fossil]

I think that is what they're talking about too yeah

Since Surv has like

10 3 point nodes

While many other places have just 2

[uncut lintel]

wait they read feedback?

sni

jk jk

[cunning fossil]

And apparently the nicr average of where to put your points is about 50 in a tree

So that you can get to a little less than 2/3s of the abulities

So yeah! Glad they're listening to feedback

[uncut lintel]

i want miniture dragons with no or very small wings as ground mounts

we dont have alot of reptile ground mounts i want more

one that isnt 50 dollars

[hot ocean]

Has there been confirmation about what will happen with Legendaries in season 4? Will there be a new rank with a higher ilvl?

[ember blaze]

i dont see why not

[dense plover]

im pretty sure they said there are no new ranks

since ilvl is only going up like 10 or 15 or something

[dense plover]

another 10.0 on dev

theyre definitely prepping considering how late that build came in

[ivory meadow]

I don't see on wow.tools

[dense plover]

wow.tools isnt accurate

its not being maintained anymore

[ivory meadow]

where are you looking at?

[dense plover]

wow.trace

[ivory meadow]

or you relying on second-hand

[dense plover]

i dont think i can post the link

because it probably TECHNICALLY violates tos

ill ask

[ivory meadow]

good lord, please tell me they are not about to unencrypt

[dense plover]

<@&299347348847329281> can i post a link to the wow.trace discord since wow.tools is dead? its a datamining discord but is not related to private servers

[dense plover]

dev isnt available to look through

[west relic]

sure

[dense plover]

oh cool

https://discord.gg/qVZDRYfB4A

just dont be obnoxious and everything will be good

its a smaller server

but you can check the bottom for new builds - the tools are still being developed so you cant do the datamining you could do on wow.tools

but the build info stuff is there

but yeah - new dev build at 8:50, that rumor of the alpha tomorrow is essentially guaranteed

people at blizzard are clearly working overtime to make sure the alpha build wont crash when they launch it

[ivory meadow]

thanks!

[deep pawn]

Still feels way to late for release this year

and we are missing trees too

[dense plover]

we will have to see how done it is

it could be much farther along

if all the zones are available thats a huge step

[deep pawn]

I'm not sure they'll do that. They'll still want their focused feedback on certain parts

so intro experience of course

[dense plover]

yeah, but that doesnt mean we cant check the minimaps

in early alpha, if a zone isnt done, itll be grey or have untextured structures

if the whole map is actually done, it means this is farther along

and in that case they might just do a new zone every 2 or so weeks

and inbetween focus on class tuning and profession stuff and rapidly iterate on that

those systems are likely very easy to iterate on

and they have a lot of old abilities they can pull in to replace anything that isnt working - azerite stuff, artifact stuff, covenant stuff

[cunning fossil]

When do they usually put out talent trees

Around the latter half.of the week ye?

[rose escarp]

Gieb Shaman Talents 🥲

[dense plover]

well, assuming they arent limiting classes for alpha, we might get the rest of them tomorrow XD

[austere gazelle]

I concur, for another reason : If they say they'll listen to players, then they might have stuff to redesign 'from scratch' during dev process, which means they shouldn't have commited such a close release date. Or they don't intend to listen to players at all and won't change a damn thing, and bis repetitae

[austere gazelle]

On this part, DH and Evoker will be the most hard part to make. I expect them to be the last addition into the new talent system

[uncut vault]

I guess one benefit of working from home is that they can push builds as late as they want lol

[vernal juniper]

Why everyone is saying, alpha will be today?

do we have any info or is just a speculation

[uncut vault]

lot of encrypted build stuff + people who clearly signed NDAs hinting at stuff today

[vernal juniper]

can you see it? twitter is down in Italy

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1547525233187381249

can you screenshot it pls?

[plain violet]

Twitter down here too...

[vernal juniper]

got it

https://imgur.com/a/JDdnms7

[plain violet]

oooh.

[vernal juniper]

another source is saying

“9:00 a.m. PST is a good time”

[plain violet]

Oh oh oh..

[rain cave]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4XxWWl

this was dropped yesterday by an artist

it's got a new background we ain't seen

if people find that interesting

[pulsar minnow]

I love the new designs for all the aspects we’ve seen so far

Alexstrasza and Kalecgos look so awesome now

[rain cave]

alex looks like more of a queen now which I like

hope they actually use that aspect of her character too now

her being this kind of catalyst/leader for the other dragons on our side

the royal scepter, the shoulder pads, the regal trim on it all

she's in charge

[pulsar minnow]

It always kinda bothered me how Sylvanas, Alexstrasza, and Ysera were all wearing the same outfit for a couple years

With all the redesigns, it definitely feels like the “New age of dragons”

[rain cave]

the colour pallete is nice

for the whole expansion presentation

but it's even reflected on alex

the contrast between the whites, blacks and reds

in front of the luscious greens

[pulsar minnow]

The Dragon Isles are just a genuinely beautiful location

I can’t wait to see them datamined, seeing as how they’re one of the biggest continents added

[plain violet]

I do agree. Alex is amazing and the zones too..

[urban spire]

I would love for them to go in the direction of bigger zones that have more open and unpopulated areas

I have been getting tired of these uber dense zones where you cannot go more than 30 seconds in any direction on foot without finding mobs you can kill or that want to kill you

I’m hoping it feels like northrend in that regard

[rain cave]

I'd be interested in seeing them transform zones over time if they did that too

like 1st raid primalists, but then maybe the 2nd raid has something to do with kadghar, kalec, jaina, w/e in the blue dragon spiky tower thing

[harsh wedge]

Like vale with siege ?

[rain cave]

and then that 2nd raids patch transforms that area of the zone

yeah

or nighthold in legion

[harsh wedge]

If they use the tech to be able to go back to the older version of the zone that'd be great

[rain cave]

with the campaign leading up to the raid

changing it

[harsh wedge]

Like in tirisfal you can go back to old undercity

[rain cave]

and ofc people are saying world tree

in dragon isles

[harsh wedge]

Because vale, well, you have the bfa version, the siege version but not the first one

[rain cave]

I think you can go to the old version now

the uncorrupted one

not sure though but I remember hearing about it

[uncut vault]

Poor ysera, forever stuck with her 2008 model quality in death

[pulsar minnow]

But don’t worry her eyes are blue?

And she’s “bound to Ardenweald” yet she’s on the box art for some reason

[upper pasture]

she's on the box art?

oh i see now

i mean, isn't she "bound to Ardenweald" until her rebirth?

[vernal juniper]

so

where is alpha

we are late

[upper pasture]

essence is what the envokers orbs are called

[crimson jasper]

yup we do know that, was already mentioned in an interview^^

[ivory meadow]

posting links too fast? YEEEEAAAAH?

[crimson jasper]

still lets see those abilities, cant wait

[upper pasture]

oh, weren't we discussing what those orbs were on that leaked photo?

[crimson jasper]

I mwasnt around but I could have given you the answer that it most likely was the power source they mentioned aka Essence^^

ofc we didnt know how they exactly used it back then so

time for me to read that now hopefully in these posts

[cunning fossil]

EVOKER PREVIRW DROPPED AND YOU FUCKS DIDN'T @ ME??

[upper pasture]

Reversion: Reverse an ally's injuries, healing them for 36 over 12 sec. When Reversion critically heals, the duration counts up by 2 sec. 9 sec cooldown Preservation Talent.

oh yeah

that's the spells ya boy wants to see

[ivory meadow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/devastation-evoker-abilities-and-gameplay-in-wow-dragonflight-327694

[vernal juniper]

https://twitter.com/BlizzardWatch/status/1547611938506412033

Blizzard Watch 💙 (@BlizzardWatch)

WoW Dragonflight alpha: A look at all the zone maps for the Dragon Isles https://t.co/Xr30p9MWy7

Twitter · Jul 14, 2022, 4:00 PM

[ivory meadow]

THERE WE GO

good lord

[analog sphinx]

@cunning fossil EVOKER ABILITYS NEWS

[cunning fossil]

Ooooooh

Wait is like

Alpha out??

[ivory meadow]

very soon

[upper pasture]

prolly dropping any hour honestly

[ivory meadow]

it should be available to download

like yeah

in the hour or any

[cunning fossil]

I blame you guys for not @ing me as soon

[upper pasture]

@cunning fossil hey stuff is coming

[deep pawn]

How did wowhead get the mastery and stuff

[crimson jasper]

all maps already being out is good news

[cunning fossil]

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1547612530368864259?t=ne9zAxKHkaOAZLkC21wa4A&s=19the reticle is so cool

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

The Preservation Evoker is one of two new specs coming in Dragonflight. Check out the abilities that Preservation Evoker has in Dragonflight to keep your friends alive!

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://t.co/nQR8Jhkh5k

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Twitter · Jul 14, 2022, 4:02 PM

[upper pasture]

Rewind (Bronze): Rewind 50% of damage taken in the last 5 seconds by all allies within 40 yds. Always heals for at least 16. Healing increased by 100% when not in a raid. Preservation Talent.

[deep pawn]

Was their a blue post or did an embargo lift

[uncut vault]

Rewind (Bronze): Rewind 50% of damage taken in the last 5 seconds by all allies within 40 yds. Always heals for at least 16. Healing increased by 100% when not in a raid. Preservation Talent.